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Month: 2021-03

2021-03-03

ael 13:46:20
BTW，天下的那個英文 g0v 專欄，在寫之前要怎麼跟編輯做溝通嗎
我問一下主編看怎麼樣比較好
好的私你 email
咦，不用啊，應該可以這樣？ @kwangyin.liu 😛
這件事現在好像沒有坑主（維持與天下溝通的窗口工作的人）？因為目前是一年期的專欄，不是只有這幾個月要找人找題材，如果之後要由 g0v-intl 做坑主的話，我個人希望依之前做國際交流與分享會的精神，盡量用公開頻道溝通。所以可以的話就在 hackmd 上溝通吧，如何？
我覺得很 ok，關於溝通方式，也想聽聽 @kwangyin.liu 的意見 👋🏼
沒坑主的確還是最大的問題⋯
要每位作者個別 Email 溝通的話，我就不想再貢獻個人時間當坑主了。社群應該要更公開一點，而 Email & 私訊坑已經太多
噢，我問這個問題的原意是，我想知道是不是要先給編輯提出大綱，討論方向後再撰稿，然後完稿後給編輯修改。我覺得上述流程都可以在 HackMD + Slack 上解決。我只是對於上稿流程不太清楚，想知道這個過程，因為目前 Disfactory 只有先登記了，但不確定下一步如何做
Jothon 是會先跟編輯溝通我們想寫的方向，沒問題就會先寫成 Google docs (比較好編修)， 編輯修改完也會再次通知 Jothon 確認內容沒問題，雙方都確認過就會上搞
我會建議分散一點，昨天推了一下 @sampeterrobbins 當坑主，也可以找其他人一起。說不定mg也有興趣。
幫 tag @mglee 😛😛
啊被推坑了嗎😆
最近還在安頓貓咪小孩跟自己中，請容我用一個月的時間找回台北生活的節奏，再來看看可以怎麼貢獻

有什麼討論都可以tag我 我會上來看
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 12:32:16
如果需要坑主的話我很願意，我現在在Taiwan insight 當編輯所以應該可以順便把天下的文章轉發到那邊讓更多人看到
哦哦哦 @sampeterrobbins ++ \o/ 那坑主說話？
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 12:54:41
什麼？
就是想知道坑主想怎麼做的意思 XD
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 15:45:18
就，寫個共筆邀稿po到general,跟大家說要跟天下聯絡我可以幫忙，再寫信給天下自我介紹一下，然後沒人投稿我就自己寫
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 15:45:20
吧？
我建議還是建立一個大家可以公開看到 review 修稿的機制喔
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 16:26:09
好啊，不過天下那邊也會自己編輯吧？不知道的話我就去問一下
對，天下那邊也會編輯，可以開一份公開的 Google Doc 一起用到年底？
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 16:29:27
好啊可以
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 16:29:35
我明天去弄
要不要來實驗完全不用 email，全部用公開的 slack hackmd google doc 溝通？如果要「g0v 專欄」，用公開的工具才能觸及到最多社群的人，應該也蠻合理的？😛
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 17:28:28
好啊，這樣的話要邀天下那邊加入slack吧
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 17:29:04
哈哈不好意思我g0v精神不夠強
主編 @kwangyin.liu 我應該沒 tag 錯人吧（tag 錯的話我很抱歉 XDD）
是想試試看 tag 幾次他才會出現嗎…
也不一定是「精神」，而是社群多元的樣貌就在這裡啊，如果不用就看不到，這很實際 😛
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-05 17:43:11
好的哈哈，那我就用slack明天寫一下共筆，要開新的channel 嗎
我覺得不用特別開 channel，可以更新在 #intl 跟該次專案的 channel 就好~ 。為了怕主編都沒有登入 slack，我剛剛將之前的討論串轉寄給 Sam，可以參考我們之前的溝通方式。
我直接 email 邀請劉主編上 Slack 囉 😄
kwangyin.liu 2021-03-05 22:00:11
哈哈 抱歉 因為我很少登入這個 slack. 非常歡迎在這裡討論題目喔。
建議流程如下：
1. 每月第一週：大家提出題目討論
2. 第二週：確認題目以及坑主
3. 第三週：交draft, 編修
4. 第四週：定稿 上線
歡迎提出建議
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2021-03-06 14:07:03
好的，謝謝
kwangyin.liu 2021-03-06 16:40:50
那麼提醒大家，下週要確認三月的題目了。目前已寫過去年在台南的 g0v summit 以及疫情之下的線上揪松，有想法還請踴躍提出～
@kwangyin.liu 三月的題目之前有寫在共筆上，是零時小學校？四月是 Disfactory
kwangyin.liu 2021-03-06 18:51:10
抱歉忘了，請問是 @besslee 寫嗎？
對，我跟揪松團的大家會一起寫。
@sampeterrobbins @besslee @kwangyin.liu ++ \o/
我和 @cstsai 報名寫四月
kwangyin.liu 2021-04-02 12:20:33
Thanks!
Jady 17:59:28
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2021-03-04

pm5 12:22:47
這件事現在好像沒有坑主（維持與天下溝通的窗口工作的人）？因為目前是一年期的專欄，不是只有這幾個月要找人找題材，如果之後要由 g0v-intl 做坑主的話，我個人希望依之前做國際交流與分享會的精神，盡量用公開頻道溝通。所以可以的話就在 hackmd 上溝通吧，如何？
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Deborah Tien 14:09:50
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ael 20:05:02
全球最大數位人權大會 RightsCon 現在開放免費註冊喔！只到 March 14 2021 的樣子。線上大會時間是 6 月

https://www.rightscon.org/join-us-online-for-rightscon-2021-registration-now-open/

RightsCon Summit Series

Join us online for RightsCon 2021: Registration now open! - RightsCon Summit Series

Registration for the 10th edition of RightsCon (June 7-11, 2021), the world’s ...

ael 20:33:54
我投稿 TICTeC的內容有上，分享 Disfactory 的 7 min talk 被放在第三場，大家對公民科技國際會議有興趣的話也可以聽其他場的豐富內容

Empowering communities using geospatial technology
https://tictec.mysociety.org/showandtells/2021#schedule
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2021-03-05

2021-03-06

Peter 16:11:27
We have a club on clubhouse right now, if you are interested in, you can follow or join the house!

2021-03-13

weihsunc 02:48:02
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2021-03-14

helloworld_bot 11:55:39
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pm5 13:39:55
FNF is looking for online Q&A participants for their seminar: “Safeguarding Freedom in the Digital Sphere” to discuss with international activists how citizens and communities can positively engage online with the government on 3/23 21:15 Taipei time for 1 hr https://g0v.hackmd.io/-g3tT3XETRqIQ2toyhxOcQ

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FNF is looking for online Q&A participants for their seminar: “Safeguarding Freedom in the Digital Sphere” to discuss with international activists how citizens and communities can positively engage online with the government - HackMD

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2021-03-15

Giorgos 03:48:45
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ael 23:58:58
Err, too late to find out MozFest is this week! Still some cool events to participate until Friday March 19!

https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/plaza

schedule.mozillafestival.org

Mozilla Festival 2021 Schedule

Mozilla Festival 2021 ScheduleDescription: Activists in the internet health movement will gather at MozFest to move the needle in tech, art, social responsibility, ethics, and AI. Will you join us?

ah rats, yeah, i failed to mention one.compost.digital and hypha.coop’s session last week :disappointed:
still good stuff though!
Oh hey, this was the session itself: https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/session/3BE77L-1
panel members from: Open Collective, Hypha, COMPOSTmag, GITcoin
video will be up later and i can share back, if interested :)

2021-03-16

2021-03-17

kjcl 21:25:54
想要請問一下頻道
kjcl 21:26:24
剛才我在為g0v演講的時候到問答部分就有人問我："g0v對於兩岸關係有什麼觀點”
kjcl 21:26:48
一定有人面臨過這個問題但我卻完全無語
kjcl 21:27:04
這種問題怎麼解答
kjcl 21:27:20
我就說："I can't answer for anyone in the community but myself"
maybe you can add that g0v is nonpartisan (as far as i know)
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RS 21:31:18
@kevinliao As a civic community, it’s difficult to claim a unified stance on political issues; instead, we share common values.

這種感覺呢？👀
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pm5 22:39:33
Maybe some of us can share our political stances here (but only if you feel comfortable sharing it here; don't feel pressured to that) as part of the discussion?

I do sometimes feel the usual "nobody has a political stance; nobody is nonpartisan" answer makes people in the community feels like it's something not to be discussed, or that they don't have a say in it, whatever the "it" is. I hope not. At least that's not my intention when I said something like that.
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Slackbot 22:39:33
先承認你就是沒有人

2021-03-18

patcon 02:57:29
This came up last night at Civic Tech Toronto. Someone was saying "isn't this a place where accessibility is highest priority?" (They thought so based on how we appear right now.) But people who had been around awhile were kinda like "yes, usually accessibility is very high priority, but it's more or less a priority when certain people are active in giving that focus their energy. we hold it as a value, but our level of commitment and rigour goes up and down based on who is here"

So we got talking about how our space is somewhat like a "container", and we are mostly what we contain at any given point in time
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patcon 03:04:58
I wonder if there is an analogy that suits both our communities. E.g., it's not poetic, but maybe that communities like us are more like a tupperware container labelled "wonderful things", rather than a jar of some specific delicious food brand. Maybe the tupperware is full of cookies one day or delicious meats the next, or maybe next week it's filled with something unexpected but wonderful in a different way, like full of crickets that some kid put there as pets :)
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Giorgos 17:33:18
When there is work to be done, do it. When others work on it too, work with them. Be human. Be kind. Have fun. 🎉
Of course having a political stance colors your perception, of what *you* think 'needs to be done'. But as long as you do it, and others do it, do you need to give a name to this perception?
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Giorgos 17:34:04
The only thing needed is some basic common values, e.g. equality and tolerance of different opinions, which are a given for g0v. Civility, in other words 🙂. Some political views are incompatible with those, and may actively try to undermine/hijack them. But other than that, does it matter? The community is a big place, with an open heart ❤️. All this work won't do itself 🙂
hellyeah 21:38:55
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2021-03-19

Isha Mehra 20:11:47
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2021-03-20

li 03:59:14
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RS 10:18:52
<!here> We’re hosting an online chatroom today! Feel free to tap in, or find the others at #general-en!
https://meet.jit.si/g0v-hackath43n

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patcon 12:32:39
Yay! I'll log in before bed to say hi :)
Hi~~~~~~~~~
found my way innnnn
great tunes
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Guo-Jim 23:46:24
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2021-03-23

2021-03-25

Sonya Chen 15:40:37
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ael 20:21:33

UNESCO TechCul
TechCul /ˈtæk.əl/ challenges of the creative and cultural sector in the Asia-Pacific region

TechCul calls for new solutions for the culture and creative sector! A total of 25 finalists were recognized in January 2021 for their great ideas and will receive support to further develop their proposals.

https://techcul.org/

techcul.org

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UNESCO

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2021-03-29

bess 18:48:49
@kwangyin.liu hi 我們要交稿了～
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zj7hDlvJqz1snwr7qA9DKcJJY-VhMf05GEWBgDjI3oc/edit?usp=sharing cc @sampeterrobbins
2021/3 天下英文專欄邀稿 ── 零時小學校 Sch001 的副本 (open review)

2021-03-30

ael 15:09:40
@kwangyin.liu 下個月是 Disfactory 農地違章工廠回報系統，我們目前還在多人發想共同撰寫階段，歡迎不吝提出建議與參與討論

https://g0v.hackmd.io/quqiOa5LSu-amjxav_EP8Q?both

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Disfactory English article on Common Health Magazine - HackMD

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2021-03-31

ael 20:37:53
Hi 抱歉很晚才貼過來，之前關注環境永續議題的 TRANSFORMATION conference 有在 #general 邀請 g0v 參與者分享，我跟提出邀請的 @diegogalafassi 聊了一下後，我們覺得也許不要用一般 presentation 的方式單向分享，可以試試看用 g0v 的精神和工具來線上討論環境和永續的問題。我現在初步想法是可以使用 pol.is 做意見分群和 HackMD 做直接紀錄，但是討論主題未定。

我初步邀請 @liuleecheetah 一起設計這場 workshop，目前就是先寫大略的介紹，在今天 3/31 死線 submit，後續細節會在這份文件上討論。抱歉時間很趕，有興趣的朋友可以加入討論一起設計主持，線上會議的時間是在六月。我個人是對設計 workshop 很久興趣，劉李有在環境永續議題工作的經驗，歡迎更多夥伴加入，可以直接在文件上留言和給我 email 把你加入與主辦單位溝通的 email thread。

（Sorry, 今天截止我現在才要開始寫）
https://g0v.hackmd.io/L36QWVuLSbaueT_xBCxMbw?both

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g0v workshop proposal in TRANSFORMATION conference 2021 - HackMD

@chewei 你有興趣嗎
liuleecheetah 20:37:58
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