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Month: 2019-10

2019-10-02

seanwilson2 18:32:05
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2019-10-03

chihao 07:26:53
@amymok welcome :)
Hi @chihao!!!
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chihao 07:44:40
@amymok So just like how many things starts among g0vers, I would recommend that we start with a hackmd doc, drafting what this sharing session is about, as well as possible time + venue on the doc :) what do you think?
amymok 07:49:25
Sounds like a good plan to me!
amymok 07:49:42
Invite me once you have the doc started
pm5 08:20:33
@amymok @chihao here's the doc https://g0v.hackmd.io/oK2mRB3tReuGvvhTfna-1Q

g0v.hackmd.io

美國台灣 civictech 經驗交流 - HackMD

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pm5 08:26:21
I tried to avoid mentioning people's names but if it’s okay then please edit the draft.
chihao 08:31:26
@pm5++ also @amymok anyone could start a doc just in case you want to use it in the future :)
ah ok I didn’t know where the hackpad is at 🙂
Jane 20:09:24
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2019-10-04

2019-10-08

isabelhou 18:47:34

大家好～日前收到西班牙Seville 大學邀請我於 11/16 在「台灣的數位民主」工作坊上介紹 g0v，我會以 g0v 研究者的身份參與此研討會。目前構思的內容主要基於我的碩士論文及去年與 ETBlue 於 summit 共同發表的 talk。想請大家幫忙看看是否有想要補充與建議的資訊～我會採取滾動式修正的方式逐步更新最新進度，此份 Hackmd 也會附在到時發表的資料來源中，供會眾進一步參考（畢竟演講時間有限），到時也會公布演講稿。 <https://hackmd.io/HR8gOsQaSI2r_a85tT6RIQ?view> 先謝謝大家惹～

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2019-10-10

chewei 13:10:10
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chewei 13:54:02
關於 Life-sized City 此人本都市議題節目，預計 10/23-10/28 來臺北訪談拍攝

感覺上 半天以內 拍 g0v 相關專案 (拍攝時間長度我猜的，要看看對方怎麼安排)

想請問若是分享 社群簡介，有推薦人選嗎，先以他與拍攝團隊可以的時間約

其他專案，可以約此時段稍後的時間，拍攝地點看看哪邊較有趣

最近有一個專門拍攝 城市議題 的節目單位，來信詢問，是否有機會拍攝 臺北市、g0v 透過幾位 jothon 團成員與窗口 Annabelle Tas (Journaliste story producer, DBcom MEDIA) 視訊與信件介紹臺北的一些社區與NGO行動之後，他們初步提出一個拍攝構想，我擷取信件文字如圖片 大致上是： 1. 主持人與一位 g0v 參與者 聊社群的緣起與概況 2. 邀請各個專案推動者，其專案與都市的生活議題、空間與環境政策相關，分享專案的內容 3. 若有機會能拍攝 專案的 hacking 過程 4. 若有機會能拍攝專案實踐/影響/作用的都市實體場域 (這我想像的是，例如公有地社群與北市府合作，後來有攝影圖書館；大河小溪，與某條溪流社群合作，正好接獲近期的某個工程標案，所以相約去看現場；無家者小幫手的資訊彙整與分享活動；line 市政通報，目前與有興趣的里長進行使用者意見訪談；大安森林公園的植物辨識 APP 甚至有可能變成當天小擺攤，號召公園路人或網友來現場安裝與使用) 以下是該節目團隊的相關資訊 ---------------- 預告片 The Life-Sized City (Series Teaser) <https://vimeo.com/242108933> Facebook / 主持人會分享一些拍攝過程 <https://www.facebook.com/lifesizedcity> 製作單位網站 <http://dbcommedia.com/the-life-sized-city/>

2019-10-11

nchi 09:38:09
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pm5 20:29:30
如果大家對 2020 可以參加什麼會議有興趣的話：https://g0v.hackmd.io/4qcnxbsYSdqHYpifHb-Vng

g0v.hackmd.io

2020 公民科技相關國際會議有哪些？ - HackMD

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2019-10-12

isabelhou 15:55:09
Hi, the next Facing the Ocean Meet&Hack will be on 12/21-22. Please sign up here https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1XiBdBgFENjIh26M1B6MwqdGmez2oYBKz2E_0ifnIy8Q/edit
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2019-10-13

isabelhou 08:24:24
Hagibis caused serious damages in Japan. Code for Japan ppl are working on maps of supporting systems. https://codeforjapan.github.io/mapprint/map/2019-typhoon-19/#36.099077421940734,139.6599407760616-35.42037196310801,140.1995505107726

codeforjapan.github.io

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印刷できる災害情報サイト

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2019-10-14

chihao 11:57:26
Hi all, regarding the trip to Berlin, g0v-intl has updated the doc: https://g0v.hackmd.io/ktLAg5N6Rhe5SIyxW1Votg?view with info from the host FNF. In the doc, you can also find a set of conditions that you need to fulfill if you participate. Please read the doc carefully and shout out here if you are still interested in going to Berlin. We need to form a delegation and finalize everyone’s schedule so flights & hotels can be booked. I’m tagging @besslee @aelcenganda @b8208241 @felixtypingmonkey because they have expressed interest. Anyone who is fresh to this can also join! g0v-intl will make a final decision on the members of this delegation. This is g0v-intl’s first attempt to open up international exchanges, any questions / suggestions is welcome :slightly_smiling_face:

g0v.hackmd.io

Invitation: co-host a workshop at the United Nations of Innovation Conference - HackMD

@chihao Sorry, I am not able to go. But super interested in what kind of work shop people organize
I can't go, but I'm interested in the event information.
I will attend the conference and just fill in the shared schedule.
Does FNF have the conference information website? I find it difficult to get info online.
Wanna go! haven't filled the shared schedule yet. Would update it as soon as I confirm mine.
Sorry, some questions here. It's my first time could get sponsor for attending an event abroad. So about the expenses, is that correct I expect the sponsor would come 'after' the trip so I need to pay the bill first by myself?
And if so, I guess I just book my own plane ticket and fill in the time on the shared schedule, right? (I have wondered since beginning why everyone could fill in the plane time so quick...
@b8208241 it seems FNF wants to book the flights for us, so just fill in your expected arrival and departure dates.
@b8208241 I might need you to fill in your schedule soon, because I am leaving for Europe much earlier than expected and want to get my flights settled. Sorry about that. Could you share your schedule by tonight?
Oh, sure, I would fill in the sheet immediately after I reach my laptop tonight (definitely before midnight
just updated mine to shared schedule!
@b8208241 @chihao @felixtypingmonkey @besslee I think they also need our real names, the ones on our passports, to book flights for us 😂I forgot to make a column for it. Please fill them in: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10OU0urhWFWqool0PSHN_h1DZMAfa6t9EukS7a276EY8/edit#gid=0
Will they book the hotel for us from NOV 03 to 07?
FNF will cover all participants flight, meals and accommodations during the delegation (11/3-7).
@besslee @felixtypingmonkey @b8208241 please dm me your email addresses if you would like to receive messages from FNF organisers regarding our delegation and you feel okay about disclosing your email to them.
isabelhou 15:04:56
@b8208241 @felixtypingmonkey @besslee please check the hackmd https://g0v.hackmd.io/ktLAg5N6Rhe5SIyxW1Votg?view

g0v.hackmd.io

Invitation: co-host a workshop at the United Nations of Innovation Conference - HackMD

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Hung-Yi Wu 23:19:16
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2019-10-15

yihsuan.hsu 09:24:50
@besslee @isabelhou , @lint633 是紐約g0v的志工，現在在台灣，想讓你們約個時間去拿貼紙，不知道怎麼約比較方便？
@lint633 我們在 NPO Hub，平日晚上七點前或本週日晚上六點前可過來，來之前請私訊跟我約
sylvia 09:24:56
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isabelhou 10:30:17
@lint633 hi, 歡迎加入int'l 頻道。這週日在NPO Hub會有基礎松，也歡迎參加。
isabelhou 10:30:59

`今年最重要的一次 g0v 基礎松就在本週日！` ~因為今年只會有一次~ :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: 名額還有，歡迎大朋友小朋友都來報名，地點在 g0v 揪松團的辦公室所在地 NPO HUB！ 本次基礎松主要討論的內容： - g0v 宣言 - g0v news 投稿規範 - sns-editors &amp; 社群媒體平台運作方式與權限 - g0v GitHub 權限設定 *g0v 第拾肆次基礎建設松* 時間：2019 / 10 / 20（日）10:00 - 18:00 地點：NPO HUB 四樓會議室（台北市中正區重慶南路三段 2 號） 報名時間：2019 / 10 / 7 （一）12:00 起 活動頁面：<https://g0v-jothon.kktix.cc/events/infrath14n>

sylvia 13:41:11
哦好耶 我剛好這週日有空 可以去參加 🙂 就順便跟你們拿貼紙!!
https://g0v-jothon.kktix.cc/events/infrath14n 可以報名一下，明天會寄行前通知！
你們預計有多少人參加？我們算一下貼紙
目前報名人數是25，含後續報名的人數+工人應該60左右
想說既然要送到紐約去，想說能不能多拿一點!!
不曉得會不會有100可拿??
yihsuan.hsu 2019-10-18 01:36:40
讚讚讚
yihsuan.hsu 2019-10-18 01:37:03
報名快40囉～目標是80
ael 14:26:23
Code for America Summit 2020 Call for Proposal will be closed on Oct. 18. Anyone interested to propose? Hopefully they will arrange more budget for overseas participants https://www.codeforamerica.org/summit/proposals

Code for America

Propose a session / Code for America Summit 2020

Contribute to the Summit experience

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bess 21:18:53
jothon 應該會去投 CfA，講今年跟公部門合作的黑客松
也想要邀請 g0v-intl 一起聊十二月的大松 + 面海松
https://g0v.hackmd.io/vaNJ03TPSK-pgyNzUjP3NA?view

g0v.hackmd.io

Code for America Call for Proposal - HackMD

被邀請了！
我先寫完一次了歡迎修修
截止日延到 10/21 了
喔，已經投了 \bess/
疑居然延後了...
還有人想投嗎？截止日延到下禮拜一～
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2019-10-16

chewei 18:31:52
對方有把問題列出在此頁面囉，有興趣的朋友歡迎共筆回應

https://g0v.hackmd.io/o6FWLdzNSy6-Eo0IJJo0aw?view

2019-10-17

2019-10-18

pm5 11:00:57
Got a message from Myung Hee Lee, lead coordinator of Asia Young Activist Researcher Fellowship (AYARF):

> I’m currently working as a lead coordinator of Asia Young Activist Researcher Fellowship (AYARF) which is a 10-day residency program in Seoul, South Korea from 5th of January to 15th of January 2020.
>
> AYARF would like to support the youth who discover and define the social issue actively, take actions to address it and distribute its results so that the world gets better with positive impact. The fellow doesn’t have to hold Master’s or Ph.D.’s but a high willingness to adopt the new ideas and research tools and be connected with the people who can stand together for the social issues we care about and take action together. We call them Activist Researchers.
>
> The first AYARF program in this coming January is seeking for the first 20 fellows of AYARF. Please find more information from the attached file or AYARF website http://www.ayarf.net/
> Asia Young Activist Researcher Fellowship
>
> Date: 5th of Jan. to 15th of Jan., 2020
>
> Venue: Seoul Innovation Park and around Seoul (An inspiring weekend trip is on planning)
>
> Key Participants: 20 new AYARF Fellows (15 Faculty members and Speakers)
>
>ü Fellow basic qualification

> Age: Limited to about 18 to 34 years to satisfy the conditions that the applicant can travel without parental consent and that there should be no reason to be disqualified from traveling abroad. (born from Jan. 1986 to Jan. 2001)

> Nationality and Residential areas: Asian countries and cities except for areas with terrorist and war-risk in Asia (*Asia meaning Central/East/South/West Asia in five regions).

> Challenges: Selecting one challenge from “ Youth and Earth/Nature, and Youth and Technology, and if it is not part of the Challenges, it can be described separately.

> Submit up to five activities/studies and results that you think are relevant to your fellowship. Forms can be submitted freely, either in writing or video. (Please share the document below 10M in total or the video via a link.)

>

> Key timeline for the fellow selection

> Open Call for Applicants: 8th of Oct. ~28th of Oct. 2019

> Fellow selection Process with online interviews: 1st of Nov. ~14th of Nov., 2019

> Fellow Announcement: 15th of Nov., 2019

>

> The benefits for selected AYARF Fellows

> 3-day of inspiring programs with quality speakers, lectures aligned by AYARF faculty

> 3 spots of promoting your works or researches

> 4-free research days in Seoul with research support (small daily expenses, contact support, and working space, etc.)

> Global Exposure of your works

> Personal Interaction with speakers and faculty

> Round trip flight ticket from your home

> Meal and accommodation during your stay (during 4th-16th of January, 2020)
If anyone is interested I can also forward the email.
chihao 11:08:49
參考：什麼是 g0v？ https://www.facebook.com/1476317585990397/posts/2458605221094957?sfns=mo

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唐鳳分享「g0v是什麼？」

#什麼是g0v? #g0v運動的由來 #你就是沒有人 #說做就做 「用一個大家更能夠瞭解的方式，來參與公共政策」 在上個月 Innovative Solutions for Sustainable Development Goal (SDGs)...

bess 19:01:07
參考：【堅強民主 數位民國】
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=682006735623933&set=a.109943162830296&type=3&theater

facebook.com

唐鳳

:statue_of_liberty:【堅強民主 數位民國】:statue_of_liberty: ￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣ :world_map: 民主會隨著越來越多人的參與而改善。只要大家關注的是尋求共識，而非分化彼此，數位科技仍然是提高參與度的最佳方式之一。 :art: 臺灣近年來致力於落實這個概念。因此，政府和科技界合作，建立了線上平台和相關數位措施，讓公民可以針對政策改革提出建議。現在，臺灣正透過「群眾外包」的方式實踐民主，並建立一個反應更快的政府。 :sunflower:...

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chen.jiunhan 19:08:29
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ael 20:43:29
想跟 G0v intl 的人確認一下 你們的 email，可以順便 pin 到 channel topic 嗎？
intl@g0v.tw as on the channel topic
感謝～～主要是有個在德國的留學生她對柏林那場工作坊有興趣但找不到會議相關資料，她可能會來 Slack 或是寄信給你們詢問
pm5 20:59:11
@pm5 set the channel topic: :globe_with_meridians: 國際交流食物^H^H事務 intl@g0v.tw :: international exchange
Log: https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw/index/channel/C084CU74J/
YU CHAIO LIN 23:20:27
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2019-10-19

pm5 11:53:07
還有人想投嗎？截止日延到下禮拜一～
isabelhou 12:02:38
基礎松剩三張票。https://g0v-jothon.kktix.cc/events/infrath14n。然後intl工作小組有一些江湖無難事的電影票要送給參加的人。

g0v-jothon.kktix.cc

g0v 第拾肆次基礎建設松

g0v 第拾肆次基礎建設松將於 10/20（日）10:00 舉行，歡迎自由登記提案，一起交流、開幹、吃午餐！

2019-10-20

casillas0902 05:40:23
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2019-10-21

Ted Chien 10:25:21
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2019-10-22

pm5 12:29:57
Reminder: there’s a cfall exco meetup tonight.
@pm5 May I join the meetup tonight?
Yes
I couldn't find the link so I passed
g0v-intl 會固定參與 Code for All ExCo meeting，但不代表 g0v。g0ver 都可以參加 ExCo meeting。不過有一些 on boarding 程序沒有進行過的話，會花點時間，建議可以提早講一下比較好準備。
Code for All 的 ExCo (Executive Committee) 目前有 g0v、Codeando México、OpenUp 的成員。g0v 這一輪的任期到明年三月底。
@pm5 ++ for the reminder.
@aelcenganda To be honest, I find your comment somewhat antagonizing. Perhaps I misread you. Would you like to talk about that?
On boarding 最主要是開會議文件與其它相關文件的權限，因為會議都是圍繞著事先看過的議程進行的，沒有文件看會不知道在討論什麼。其它像近期的工作內容與 ExCo 的職務內容，這個就比較還好。有興趣參加的人可以先跟我們講，下次會議前請 Kelly 先開好權限。
Document access is definitely a key issue. Another issue is whether if we can sort of “self-on-board” or would other members of the ExCo expect all g0vers actually go through the cfall on-boarding process. Perhaps we could simply ask them? In risk of stating the obvious, negotiating between different organizational models (e.g. g0v ↔︎ g0v-intl ↔︎ cfall) is real work. It is a costly process with no certainty on the outcome. Having said that, I am definitely not saying that the established norms are not supposed to be challenged. Of course they are.
@chihao 噢噢瞭解，不好意思是語氣問題，我沒有質問的意思，比較是解釋為何我問了但是沒加入。我只是剛好在空檔看到有 meeting 所以想說可以亂入旁聽一下，找不到會議連結所以就放棄了，後來才看到 pm5 回的訊息。我沒有先詢問而是臨時起意，所以完全可以理解造成的不便。我可能也誤會 ExCo 的性質，我以為是 hangout 聊天式的 meetup，我就掛著旁聽，但看你們解釋是 task force meeting，那就需要對會議內容有更多瞭解與準備。
@pm5 Thanks for the reminder. 下次想要參加之前會提早說。
@chihao @pm5 抱歉我這幾天網路很差現在才回訊息。我想如果要防止類似的誤會再發生，也許可以在 g0v-intl 行事曆上註明該會議性質，與要參加的程序，例如需要閱讀 onboarding 文件。前提是不造成你們太大的麻煩。
我剛剛又找了一下，發現你們其實有在 HackMD 裡寫清楚了，是我自己沒有找原始文件而搞混了 monthly catch up 和 ExCo meeting。


https://g0v.hackmd.io/@chihao/rypH_tpoE?type=view
我明白也知道 g0v-intl 在開放治理上的努力，很感謝你們 💪。這次是我太倉促詢問了。
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pm5 23:18:17
g0v-intl 會固定參與 Code for All ExCo meeting，但不代表 g0v。g0ver 都可以參加 ExCo meeting。不過有一些 on boarding 程序沒有進行過的話，會花點時間，建議可以提早講一下比較好準備。
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chihao 23:43:36
@chihao set the channel topic: :globe_with_meridians: 國際交流食物^H^H事務 intl@g0v.tw / g0v international / trello: https://trello.com/b/xxd5GtcJ /
Log: https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw/index/channel/C084CU74J/
chihao 23:48:43
@chihao set the channel purpose: :globe_with_meridians: 國際交流食物^H^H事務 / g0v international / intl@g0v.tw / https://trello.com/b/xxd5GtcJ /
Log: https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw/index/channel/C084CU74J/
chihao 23:49:00
@chihao set the channel topic: :globe_with_meridians: 國際交流食物^H^H事務 / g0v international / intl@g0v.tw / https://trello.com/b/xxd5GtcJ /
Log: https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw/index/channel/C084CU74J/
chihao 23:49:33
channel topic channel description 好令人困惑⋯

2019-10-23

robin 04:40:31
想問一下 上次我好像有看到面海松的英文版新手教學，不曉得有沒有人有連結啊？
chihao 09:54:44
@crlee 上次是哪一次？😆
幾個月前吧 好像是在日本的？
@crlee 哦哦哦你也有去沖繩嗎？
沒啦 我在slack 看到的
不過我有報名十二月的台南面海松
isabelhou 10:07:44
This is the slide of g0v’s hackathon tutorial for newbies which is used in FtO. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1InhK40IMFqivVCD7DUcSrzN2vgUR8hMOeyf5zi19nT8/edit#slide=id.p
感謝：）
Hi @crlee 是美東松要用嗎？如果有修改後的英文版本，還請再分享出來，感恩。
yea, we might use it. not sure yet depending on number of participants who don’t speak mandarin.
of course, if we revise it, we’ll share 🙂
一切順利。有需要協助，請隨時出聲。
後來我們都用中文版的 哈哈
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pm5 10:31:42
On boarding 最主要是開會議文件與其它相關文件的權限，因為會議都是圍繞著事先看過的議程進行的，沒有文件看會不知道在討論什麼。其它像近期的工作內容與 ExCo 的職務內容，這個就比較還好。有興趣參加的人可以先跟我們講，下次會議前請 Kelly 先開好權限。
chihao 15:47:27
@felixtypingmonkey @b8208241 please check your email. FNF has send flight itinerary for each of us and let’s confirm ASAP.
Thanks for notification. I just relied the confirmation to Tan.
@felixtypingmonkey ++!
I have also replied to Tan!
I just need to wait for her confirmation on my choice upon the options she provided. But I think it would be fine.
Thanks for your notification!
@b8208241 ++!

2019-10-24

chihao 12:15:42
Hi all, I’ve wrote a monthly update on what’s going on in g0v here: https://g0v.hackmd.io/JoNZjrU9TjO6oR5OcJ0Dng g0v-intl will be submitting this to be used in Code for All newsletter. Check it out and add your activities :slightly_smiling_face:

g0v.hackmd.io

每月社群大小事 What’s happening in g0v - HackMD

Disinformation Research Group! 想入坑！有遠端參加的傳送門🚪嗎？最近剛好在組一個相關的線上對話！
@mglee 請加 #disinfo 😁
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chihao 12:16:15
Current version:
```
• Weekly meetups of g0v projects continues, including Disfactory, Cofacts, and vTaiwan.
• Rentea hosted its 2nd monthly meeting on October 22.
• g0v-jothon is busy organizing g0v Year-End Banquet on November 16.
• g0v-intl has started a disinformation research group to formulate open & collaborative responses to information operations and manipulation in Taiwan.
• g0vers have passed amendments to g0v Manifesto, g0v SNS governance, g0v.news governance during the 14th infrathon on October 20.
```

2019-10-27

2019-10-29

ael 04:51:11
2020 年的 The Web Conference 辦在台北欸


https://www2020.thewebconf.org/

The Web Conference

The Web Conference 2020

Taipei | April 20-24 2020

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Lulu Keng 14:52:07
哈囉~~ 30 個國際網路自由/數位隱私專案成員在台交流會，名額還沒滿啊! 有空來吧來吧!!! https://ocf.neticrm.tw/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=16

ocf.neticrm.tw

OTF 社群交流日 - 財團法人開放文化基金會

結果我要去柏林了只能 pass QQ
呵呵~~ 今年好冷歐，大家都不想跟 OTF 的專案交流 哭哭。很怕他們特別留下來一天結果都沒人來，希望這些專案不要太難過。
有在後勤中心貼過嗎？
沒有耶~~ 想說應該是 g0v 的事情才能在那邊 po
不過後勤中心一萬多人哦

2019-10-30

bess 14:35:23
@vanson @lint633
我們的新文章出來了歡迎參考 XD
https://futurecity.cw.com.tw/article/1036

未來城市@天下

g0v獎助金獲獎專案（二）｜國家寶藏：從美國檔案資料庫，挖20萬筆你沒讀過的台灣史 - 未來城市@天下

國家寶藏專案緣起於g0v美東黑客松，大部分成員都在美國，也在美成立「台灣國家寶藏基金會」（Taiwan National Treasure Foundation），翻拍檔案至今已累積50萬筆。心繫台灣的他們，在開放文化基金會有捐款專戶，並與國內研究機構合作。

我後天要去！（興致勃勃
@bil 期待鄰鄰日記 ❤️
哦哦讚喔！！
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2019-10-31

chihao 15:14:20
11/4-6 g0vers in Berlin! 🙌 🙌 🙌
昨天跟 @besslee @felixtypingmonkey 有些討論。這次以 citizen participation 公民參與為主題的討論，我們可能會強調一些事情：

- 一開始還是要問一下 fishbowl 討論內容可不可以公開，以我們可能會做共筆為前提。
- 不要侷限在「公民參與」的既有想像底下。例如主持人問到「科技如何幫助公民把他們的想法意見傳達進政府」（約略是這樣）這種從公參，或可能審議的角度提問的討論前提與香港現況就差太多。
- 這樣情況下例如政治獻金、中天小吃店地圖、小蜜蜂等等行動可能都是我們會放進討論中的。
- 強調 g0v 的 3 個價值：開放開源、行動主義、公民精神。這些價值本身就是很「公民參與」的，或者說是公民參與的一種詮釋（我覺得啦）。
- 強調 g0v 的沒有人精神。強調坑主需要也應該透過自己跳坑做出一點進展來號召大家投入。
- （題外）沒有人精神好像沒有寫進 g0v 宣言。要再來個修憲案嗎？
(We’re) going to meet former chairman of Pirate Party Germany this afternoon.
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