#vtaiwan

2018-11-02
ky 13:28:20
開刀多休息唷
ky 13:29:17
Real-time board 的同時協作要課金QQ
2018-11-04
bestian 19:53:31
製作成pwa的技術困難還真多
https://github.com/g0v/vue.vtaiwan.tw/tree/pwa-test
GitHub
g0v/vue.vtaiwan.tw
數位經濟法規線上諮詢系統 界面 3.0 - <https://vtw.link/>. Contribute to g0v/vue.vtaiwan.tw development by creating an account on GitHub.
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au 2018-11-04 20:15:42
主要還是載入速度比較慢。 pwa 是一個可能的解法（至少有 cache 住） 但任何可以增進載入體驗的都很歡迎
tmonk 2018-11-05 16:56:13
Wow! 是 pwa 耶! Awesome!
bestian 2018-11-05 20:49:58
雖然還不能離線瀏覽，不過速度好像有變快一些
au 20:07:17
感謝 @urakagi ，data-integration 的 polis 匯出原始資料 OK 了，已經加到 meta 裡。
au 20:08:21
https://vtaiwan.tw/topic/data-integration/ 諮詢會議的簡報、直播、共筆、白板都加上了
au 20:12:21
另外也感謝 @steno_tin 稍後會從直播補逐字稿到 SayIt 上。
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au 20:15:42
主要還是載入速度比較慢。 pwa 是一個可能的解法（至少有 cache 住） 但任何可以增進載入體驗的都很歡迎
2018-11-05
tmonk 16:56:13
Wow! 是 pwa 耶! Awesome!
bestian 20:49:58
雖然還不能離線瀏覽，不過速度好像有變快一些
bestian 20:51:40
目前試用https://github.com/NekR/offline-plugin
GitHub
NekR/offline-plugin
Offline plugin (ServiceWorker, AppCache) for webpack (<https://webpack.js.org/>) - NekR/offline-plugin
allenlinli 22:25:32
上次第一次參加 vTaiwan，跟新朋友聊到現在已有的政府資料開放平臺的「我想要更多」本身可以做一些統計
結果我發現其實它已經可以匯出搜尋結果清冊了，只是結果當中並沒有回應一欄，所以看不出派發機關和平臺的回應。
因此我就也申請了我想要更多，希望政府資料開放平臺可以開放這個欄位的資料 : p
https://data.gov.tw/node/94521

對了，參加 vTaiwan 聽有邏輯的討論和認識朋友好棒 :nyan-parrot:
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allenlinli 2018-11-07 13:32:22
後來政府資料開放平臺有回覆了，說明年系統改版時會參考。感覺一年改版一次好慢呀 ~_~

「您好，有關您所提出之建議，將於明年度系統改版時，彙整各機關意見後，納入整體系統優化之評估。」
allenlinli 22:26:55
了解了～ 謝謝～
2018-11-06
Peace 11:19:37
明天自由討論小松報名
https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/d33cfed2
vtaiwan.kktix.cc
vTaiwan自由提案小松
如果有本週想討論的事情，歡迎直接編輯hackpad提案唷： <https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181107-vTaiwan-xHlpD45h1dG> 地點 106台北市大安區仁愛路三段5
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2018-11-07
allenlinli 13:32:22
後來政府資料開放平臺有回覆了，說明年系統改版時會參考。感覺一年改版一次好慢呀 ~_~

「您好，有關您所提出之建議，將於明年度系統改版時，彙整各機關意見後，納入整體系統優化之評估。」
2018-11-08
ronnywang 01:37:42
https://www.judicial.gov.tw/Qna/content.asp?seq=515
ronnywang 01:37:59
今天有聊到的，如果受到「監護宣告」的人，是沒有投票權的
ronnywang 01:38:20
公職人員選舉罷免法第14條 中華民國國民，年滿二十歲，除受監護宣告尚未撤銷者外，有選舉權。
ronnywang 01:42:00
另外今天也有談到一個議題，什麼是比較好的投票制度。
因為 g0v grants 也很需要這議題，過去幾次 grants 都是採用 Condorcet 的投票法來排名入選提案。
可以參考這篇文章 http://shann.idv.tw/scimonth/election/ 剛看了滿有意思的
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allenlinli 2018-11-08 08:56:14
好棒的文章！借分享～
allenlinli 2018-11-08 08:57:37
波達計數法
https://goo.gl/FJN9br

本來以為澳洲是採用這個投票法，但發現其實是排序複選制
https://goo.gl/BWu4PA
allenlinli 08:56:14
好棒的文章！借分享～
allenlinli 08:57:37
波達計數法
https://goo.gl/FJN9br

本來以為澳洲是採用這個投票法，但發現其實是排序複選制
https://goo.gl/BWu4PA
Han 11:34:57
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2018-11-09
Peace 10:46:42
下周三報名、共筆。這幾次都有新人來，歡迎大家一起來認識新朋友 :))
也一起在polis提供對vtaiwan的想法 :))))
報名：https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/c7cf4d2f
共筆：https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181114-vTaiwan-XSIDmLrVOIr
Polis意見徵集：https://pol.is/7sbbavbdsn…
vtaiwan.kktix.cc
vTaiwan自由提案小松
如果有本週想討論的事情，歡迎直接編輯hackpad提案唷： <https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181114-vTaiwan-XSIDmLrVOIr> 地點 106台北市大安區仁愛路三段5
pol.is
vTaiwan's vTaiwan process
2018 年要結束了！寫下你對 vTaiwan 的期待吧！
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patcon 2018-11-14 15:56:31
cc @agoeng.bhimasta ^^^
2018-11-12
patcon 16:17:40
Re: sociometric badges. I am happy to leave them all here, but I would really love to bring half back to Canada when I go home, if possible. Might anyone be willing to chip in to order parts & circuit boards for 30 badges -- 15 in Toronto and 15 in Taipei?
Patrick Connolly
Just to update outside DM: @kevinphy and I will be ordering parts & boards for 15 rhythm badges at Taipei Hacker space tomorrow at 9pm. We'll document, or anyone is welcome to drop by if they want to learn how it's done in person :tada:
patcon 2018-11-12 16:18:21
(I am already ordering 15.)
patcon 2018-11-12 16:21:10
Cost for 15 is about NT$1000 unassembled, and we (anyone interested) will assemble/solder them at hackerspace :)
patcon 2018-11-12 16:22:37
There might be some other costs before these are usable (buying development boards for programming, and Bluetooth low-energy beacons), but the hardest and most consuming work is ordering/building badges, so it will save someone a BIG hurdle to do it now!
patcon 2018-11-12 16:23:12
And chipping in for this won't mean the other costs are yours to pay :)
patcon 16:18:21
(I am already ordering 15.)
patcon 16:21:10
Cost for 15 is about NT$1000 unassembled, and we (anyone interested) will assemble/solder them at hackerspace :)
patcon 16:22:37
There might be some other costs before these are usable (buying development boards for programming, and Bluetooth low-energy beacons), but the hardest and most consuming work is ordering/building badges, so it will save someone a BIG hurdle to do it now!
patcon 16:23:12
And chipping in for this won't mean the other costs are yours to pay :)
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2018-11-13
ronnywang 23:47:03
https://news.pts.org.tw/article/412888 vtaiwan 的老議題 XD
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交部擬定「Uber條款」 限制租賃業巡迴攬客
Uber去年重返台灣後爭議不斷，公路總局擬定「Uber條款」，將限制與Uber資訊平台合作的業者不得巡迴攬客、車程必須高於一小時，交通部目的在區隔租車業、客運業，不過租車業反彈號召抗議。...
ronnywang 23:54:43
看了新聞內容我才意識到，結果 Uber 後來根本沒用當初 vtaiwan 所產出的多元計程車，後來營業模式從計程車客運業跑到小客車租賃業去了
irvin 2018-11-20 12:16:24
多元計程車還要加計程錶跟跳錶，沒辦法上車前知道總價，下車還要等司機手輸價格⋯⋯唯一的好處就是「絕對不會比計程車便宜」，只有對競爭者有益。

老實說，現在這樣對營運方、司機、乘客方都方便。
patcon 23:54:47
OK, @kevinphy and I just ordered the parts and boards for building 10 #social-physics rhythm badges!! woooo!
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2018-11-14
noneck 03:36:06
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@null 03:39:13
名為@Peace！ cc @ky @Fang @fiorella @kjcl @sylin @ billy3321
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542137951020000|I nominate @Peace! cc @ky @Fang @fiorella @kjcl @sylin @billy3321>
@null 03:46:49
有很多頻道
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542138408020300|there are sooo many channels>
@null 2018-11-14 10:13:47
嗨，我們每週三晚上定期舉行vTaiwan會議。歡迎你的朋友加入，他可以見到我們大多數人（由Patcon提名）
@null 03:46:55
謝謝@patcon
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542138413020500|thanks @patcon>
jc 04:08:45
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@null 10:13:47
嗨，我們每週三晚上定期舉行vTaiwan會議。歡迎你的朋友加入，他可以見到我們大多數人（由Patcon提名）
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542161626020900?thread_ts=1542138408.020300&amp;cid=CDB5K5MFB|hi, we have regular meeting for vTaiwan every Wednesday night. welcome your friend to join in and h...>
Bimo 15:55:52
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patcon 15:56:31
cc @agoeng.bhimasta ^^^
patcon 18:41:11
running a little behind, but omw
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patcon 18:41:37
ah wait, it's 7pm, isn't it?
patcon 18:44:11
should we update the hackpad template? it's been confusing me with 6:30 since day 1, when I arrived and no one was there. where do we copy the event hackpad from, and I'm happy to fix it to the actual start time :slightly_smiling_face:
ky 2018-11-14 18:46:56
I think I fixed all of that after that day, where did you see 6:30?
ky 18:46:56
I think I fixed all of that after that day, where did you see 6:30?
kjcl 18:51:03
請問一下如果以後vtaiwan小松要吃鴨的話，我們可以改名從hackathon到quack-athon嗎？
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kjcl 18:51:10
🦆
kjcl 19:19:06
🍺taiwan
Someone (across chat bridge) 19:23:01
Screen Shot 2018-11-14 at 7.22.15 PM
@null 19:23:02
ronnywang 19:23:48
P_20181114_192305_vHDR_On.jpg
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@null 19:51:54
修改了議程中的英文翻譯鏈接，萬一有人感到困惑：https：//translate.google.com/translate？hl = zh-CN＆custom = auto = tl = en＆u = https：//g0v.hackpad.tw/ep/pad/static / XSIDmLrVOIr
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542196312026700|fixed the english translation link on the agenda, in case anyone was confused: https://translate.goo...>
@null 20:01:55
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ky 20:03:19
小班分享多倫多 workshop ❤️
MVIMG_20181114_195532.jpg
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Someone (across chat bridge) 20:04:04
Screen Shot 2018-11-14 at 8.03.23 PM
patcon 2018-11-14 20:04:34
oops. gotta fix that bug in the translation bridge 😕
@null 20:04:04
保護少數群體的證據：https：//mydem0cracy.ca/
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542197043028300|evidence of minority being preserved in: https://mydem0cracy.ca/>
patcon 2018-11-14 20:04:34
oops. gotta fix that bug in the translation bridge 😕
patcon 20:04:34
oops. gotta fix that bug in the translation bridge 😕
patcon 20:04:53
Screen Shot 2018-11-14 at 8.03.23 PM.png
allenlinli 20:13:12
I googled the meaning of “政委“, the government role of 唐鳳, here it is
https://www.google.com.tw/search?q=%E6%94%BF%E5%A7%94&oq=%E6%94%BF%E5%A7%94&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j69i61l2j35i39j0.1924j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
It’s interesting for me 😁
ronnywang 20:14:21
政委 in Taiwan is “政務委員” (https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%94%BF%E5%8B%99%E5%A7%94%E5%93%A1_(%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B)
政務委員 (中華民國)
政務委員是中華民國行政院的政務官職位之一，於《中華民國憲法》舊稱「不管部會之政務委員」，主要負責跨部會協調、橫向聯繫，以及特定議題、任務的推動，官階與各部會首長同級，同時為行政院會議的當然成員，惟一般沒有所屬的部會。其功能相當於其它國家之「不管部部長」或「無任所大臣」。依現行《行政院組織法》第五條規範，政務委員定額7人至9人。
ky 20:14:32
@ronnywang
https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/原因自由行为
ronnywang 2018-11-14 20:15:47
感謝法律協助，下次我會注意喝醉後還是不能犯罪的
ronnywang 20:14:32
not “政治委員” XD
ronnywang 2018-11-14 20:15:47
感謝法律協助，下次我會注意喝醉後還是不能犯罪的
ronnywang 20:15:47
感謝法律協助，下次我會注意喝醉後還是不能犯罪的
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allenlinli 20:18:26
了解了 XDD
allenlinli 20:18:49
本來以為兩者的意思一樣XD
allenlinli 20:30:02
vTaiwan 的 folder 有時候開好像很慢耶，不確定是什麼問題
https://goo.gl/ccgXai
allenlinli 2018-11-14 21:30:16
猜測是因為我的 Chrome 外掛導致開很慢
kjcl 20:50:04
https://g0v.github.io/for-marriage-equality/
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wellsonjain 20:56:55
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allenlinli 21:30:16
猜測是因為我的 Chrome 外掛導致開很慢
2018-11-15
ky 21:13:21
https://udn.com/news/story/6656/3479777?fbclid=IwAR0SE24y8n5zBJt5j5ePV3E3GVyUzHqRzzIO_Oqln7PdCdt7Yd0b5q5wOX8
最近好多和 vTaiwan 議題相關的新聞喔是不是該做些什麼或再開討論（還有 uber)
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2018-11-16
patcon 13:27:50
Maybe for more vTaiwan workshops run by community?
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詳細文件：https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GJ-GqTJ2uUNggLV1ANHqY8Gvm59bXaj91fYBlmi--kk/edit?fbclid=IwAR04fYiHYCrMGsUJPfEF0OM9rem1Ri--PXhSDRtg2S33KOc5lNordyAzXuA

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ky 2018-11-16 17:07:02
Mr.Hal from code for Japan mentioned that he's interested in building a platform like vTaiwan this week.
patcon 2018-11-16 18:43:19
I bet @dotoriworks from Toronto is interested too! (This channel is synced with a channel on the CicicTechTO slack team)

cc @hal
alexjay 2018-11-17 00:54:55
hey hey! definitely, and chipping away at it here in Toronto. @hal @lisa what part of vTaiwan? The "platform" is actually an assortment of processes and tools, right? if it's pol.is, that depends on local/issue-based adaptations. If it's the in-person deliberation process ("reflection stage"), this depends on having the right people at the table at the right place at the right time. (i.e. a lot of coordination and a lot of existing buy-in). The first successful case of a vTaiwan pilot outside of Taiwan will offer others an idea of how to "import" the process.
hal 2018-11-17 18:35:45
Thanks!
We are thinking to apply Cade for All Exchange program.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GJ-GqTJ2uUNggLV1ANHqY8Gvm59bXaj91fYBlmi--kk/edit?fbclid=IwAR1pqisvTu46qrZeoHU9TdzPaUF5m-0s0-HXse3l6_fsnqtjO8IHAZJibUs
The program is focusing to reproduce civic tech trainings. So some of workshops or curriculums are suitable.
hal 2018-11-17 18:37:18
Ah, that was a same link you referred.
hal 2018-11-17 18:40:23
@sheliru.52 launched a citizen participated law making community recently. So we will have a meeting with Lisa Lin-Kuanyu san next week.
shuyang 2018-11-18 23:33:41
sounds awesome 🙂
chihao 2018-11-19 18:10:39
All the power to the community! 🙌
ky 17:07:02
Mr.Hal from code for Japan mentioned that he's interested in building a platform like vTaiwan this week.
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patcon 18:43:19
I bet @dotoriworks from Toronto is interested too! (This channel is synced with a channel on the CicicTechTO slack team)

cc @hal
2018-11-17
alexjay 00:54:55
hey hey! definitely, and chipping away at it here in Toronto. @hal @lisa what part of vTaiwan? The "platform" is actually an assortment of processes and tools, right? if it's pol.is, that depends on local/issue-based adaptations. If it's the in-person deliberation process ("reflection stage"), this depends on having the right people at the table at the right place at the right time. (i.e. a lot of coordination and a lot of existing buy-in). The first successful case of a vTaiwan pilot outside of Taiwan will offer others an idea of how to "import" the process.
hal 18:35:45
Thanks!
We are thinking to apply Cade for All Exchange program.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GJ-GqTJ2uUNggLV1ANHqY8Gvm59bXaj91fYBlmi--kk/edit?fbclid=IwAR1pqisvTu46qrZeoHU9TdzPaUF5m-0s0-HXse3l6_fsnqtjO8IHAZJibUs
The program is focusing to reproduce civic tech trainings. So some of workshops or curriculums are suitable.
hal 18:37:18
Ah, that was a same link you referred.
hal 18:40:23
@sheliru.52 launched a citizen participated law making community recently. So we will have a meeting with Lisa Lin-Kuanyu san next week.
2018-11-18
shuyang 23:33:41
sounds awesome 🙂
2018-11-19
chihao 18:10:39
All the power to the community! 🙌
ky 18:34:08
大家安安，本週三的 vTaiwan 小聚會有兩個提案唷，歡迎大家參加！
1. Code for Japan 連線討論
2. 討論會（跨世代對民主政治的理解、認同與參與）

https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/c7cf4d2f-copy-1
https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181121-vTaiwan-7TRqPFBNokB
vtaiwan.kktix.cc
vTaiwan自由提案小松
如果有本週想討論的事情，歡迎直接編輯hackpad提案唷： <https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181121-vTaiwan-7TRqPFBNokB> 地點 106台北市大安區仁愛路三段5
g0v.hackpad.tw
20181121 vTaiwan小黑客松
時間：2018-11-21 週三 19:00-21:00 地點：社會創新實驗中心 2F A9 會議室 （地圖：<https://goo>.
@null 2018-11-19 18:39:19
：doraemon：🎉
@null 18:39:19
：doraemon：🎉
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542623959045300?thread_ts=1542623650.045200&amp;cid=CDB5K5MFB|:doraemon: :tada:>
2018-11-20
@null 02:59:09
嗨@Peace - 我很想送他和他的嫁給你。他們將是紐約州參議員的結合。你能否向我發送有關你會議的詳細信息，我會把它傳遞給他的參謀長？我最好通過noel@beta.nyc與我聯繫
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542653949045500?thread_ts=1542138408.020300&amp;cid=CDB5K5MFB|Hi @Peace — i would love to send him and his deligation to you. they will be a deligation of NY st...>
irvin 12:16:24
多元計程車還要加計程錶跟跳錶，沒辦法上車前知道總價，下車還要等司機手輸價格⋯⋯唯一的好處就是「絕對不會比計程車便宜」，只有對競爭者有益。

老實說，現在這樣對營運方、司機、乘客方都方便。
jfilmer 16:06:58
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2018-11-21
Peace 15:06:37
各位好，我們預定12/5(三) 要來討論vTaiwan明年的計畫，藉此尋求共識，決定工作方向。希望在會前先做意見收集，也希望盡量多的人可以來參加，所以提前邀請各位報名。歡迎各位先上共筆撰寫議題與想法，也歡迎到Po.lis表達立場。

報名
https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/c7cf4d2f-copy-2?fbclid=IwAR1pA6-hkV8r1IezenvRSvg3buN5XQ8Hanf7lCUpBX6L_m-asrQMEvfRGCo

共筆
https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181205-vTaiwan--S5OpekX9p59

Po.lis
https://pol.is/7sbbavbdsn
vtaiwan.kktix.cc
vTaiwan自由提案小松
希望這次小松可以成為一個討論的開始，溝通對vTaiwan的想像，分享經驗與心得，建立共識。進一步討論是否要投g0v grant與明年的工作目標。 會議共筆：<https://g0v.hackpad.tw>
g0v.hackpad.tw
20181205 vTaiwan 年末討論松
時間：2018-12-05 週三 19:00-21:00 地點：社會創新實驗中心 2F A9 會議室 （地圖：<https://goo.gl/maps/X65uN9PFXAo）> Po.lis ：<https://pol.is/7sbbavbdsn> g0v grant：<https://docs.google>.
pol.is
vTaiwan's vTaiwan process
2018 年要結束了！寫下你對 vTaiwan 的期待吧！
patcon 2018-11-21 18:39:52
Also, I forget if I already submitted a comment on some topics, so please disregard if they are repeats 🙂
patcon 18:39:04
I'll be maybe 30 minutes late tonight, but will be there!
patcon 18:39:52
Also, I forget if I already submitted a comment on some topics, so please disregard if they are repeats 🙂
yitzu 19:06:19
Hi 各位好，金馬獎得獎的紀錄片「我們的青春，在台灣」，這星期日在信義威秀有開一個場次，剛看還有幾張票，分享給大家。@lisa

https://sales.vscinemas.com.tw/VieShowTicket/?agree=on&cinemacode=1&txtSessionId=1301909
@null 2018-11-21 19:30:54
🙌
@null 19:30:54
🙌
@null 20:08:53
我非常了解東京人萬聖節騷亂的原因。我希望暴亂的，與警察鬥爭的成年人被視為XD的利益相關者
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542802132056700|I am SO CURIOUS to learn about the feelings of why people in tokyo riot on halloween. i hope the rio...>
ronnywang 20:10:38
Google 翻譯好像翻錯的很大 XD
ronnywang 20:17:07
Google translated “I am SO CURIOUS to learn about the feelings …” to “I know very well the feelings …”
@null 20:17:19
@ronnywang哈哈認為我應該在#vtaiwan中關閉台灣的翻譯？
<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDB5K5MFB/p1542802638059100|@ronnywang haha think I should I just turn off translation in taiwanese in #vtaiwan?>
ronnywang 20:18:01
It’s ok. People can see the original sentence XD
@null 20:29:15
👋來自日本
&lt;|:wave: from japan&gt;
@null 20:35:13
ok, removed translation in #vtaiwan until I get that weirdness fixed 🙂
kjcl 22:36:24
🅱️taiwan
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2018-11-24
kao264 03:08:10
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kjcl 19:23:20
有沒有人現在要取暖
kjcl 19:23:51
我跟 @ronnywang 在找人蓋同溫層
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Michael_li 20:05:29
取暖？
2018-11-25
kjcl 10:44:00
https://tallyroom.vec.vic.gov.au/vtr/WesternMetropolitanRegion.html
kjcl 10:45:49
澳洲維多利亞州昨天也有選舉。眾議院用排名投票方式投票，所以開票很慢。可能要等一兩個禮拜才會有結果。
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ronnywang 10:46:40
台灣人應該很難接受開票要超過一天
kjcl 10:47:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE
YouTube
The Alternative Vote Explained
kjcl 10:47:53
可是參議院平常當天就會開完票喔
kjcl 10:48:09
總統或者市長應該也是。
kjcl 10:48:30
那個視頻有簡體字幕。
allenlinli 14:31:22
不知道澳洲眾議院排名投票的話，實際上是讓選民填數字當作順序嗎？還是用蓋章或什麼方式
另外參議院又是如何當天就開完票的？
有機會我真想查看看資料
2018-11-27
Peace 16:39:48
明晚小松報名，有兩個提案，歡迎參加 🙂
壹. 12/8 (六) g0v大松提案討論
貳. 12/5 (三) vTaiwan年度討論會前會
https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/c7cf4d2f-copy-3
vtaiwan.kktix.cc
【g0v大松討論；vTaiwan討論會前會】
這次小松有兩個議題 本周共筆：<https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181128-vTaiwan-g85IgX1jbtY> 壹. 12/8 (六) g0v大松提案討論 (by 仔魚) 貳.
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2018-11-28
@null 18:52:59
Just leaving an interview, but omw there!
kjcl 19:24:18
Quackathon!
kjcl 19:24:30
🦆
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2018-11-29
ky 16:35:13
https://www.inside.com.tw/article/14825-UBER-Taiwan-crisis?fbclid=IwAR3f32CR8YGg4Hp_tDamxzP5jgo4suhQ0uNp4ThYQ_lnrC_29gAGIkMHMVs
INSIDE
UBER 為何再陷離台危機，欲啟多方對話求共存？ - INSIDE
俗稱「UBER 條款」新法其限制嚴厲程度足以完全扼殺 UBER 在台營運。UBER 在台已經合法，那為什麼還會掀起這趟風波？
2018-11-30
Peace 10:32:19
下周三改為vTaiwan年度聚餐。歡迎參加
https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/c7cf4d2f-copy-2
vtaiwan.kktix.cc
vTaiwan 年度聚餐 (活動主題微調)
本來年度討論更改為年度聚餐，因為先吃飽才有力氣討論阿~~ 打咔生猛活海鮮 100台北市中正區羅斯福路一段43號 (捷運中正紀念堂站3號出口步行約2分鐘) <https://tenjo.tw/daka-s>
allenlinli 2018-11-30 10:36:38
發現活動的地點仍寫在社創中心
Peace 2018-11-30 14:08:50
改了，謝謝
allenlinli 10:36:38
發現活動的地點仍寫在社創中心
Peace 14:08:50
改了，謝謝