#general-en
2018-12-01
@null
02:11:40
@patcon I would say that g0vers are obsessed with taking notes not only during our own meetups but also other talks/events/confs we attend. The problem is that it’s so hard to navigate in the sea of documents (even you can read Mandarin) and find out the topics you’re interested in. I think it’s understandable since the community isn’t just one project, but many projects happening at the same time. You’ll feel what I say when you attend the upcoming hackathon.
@null
02:16:57
As a researcher, my way to navigate through these documents is to start from a project that I’m interested in. I will firstly check the hackfoldr of every hackathon and follow the pitch slides/videos. All hackathon has its hackfoldr, and you just need to change the number of the IP address to switch to a different one (for example: https://beta.hackfoldr.org/g0v-hackath28n).
again, you’ll find that it’s mostly mandarin. “要提案!看提案!” is the place to find all proposals and their links to notes/slides/videos.
again, you’ll find that it’s mostly mandarin. “要提案!看提案!” is the place to find all proposals and their links to notes/slides/videos.
@null
02:20:55
however, being there and engaging in the conversation are still important to know what happened since notes are incomplete fragments and many interesting conversations/interactions happen without “live transcript”.
@null
02:30:17
hey @lizbarry I’m not sure if every g0ver will agree on this statement “g0v acting as a a facilitation buffer layer between citizens and government.” However, there’re some collaborative efforts, besides resistant ones, trying to work with the government (mostly city level).
In “Taiwan Open Gov Report” ch.4, we wrote some collaborative projects. Please note: only cases 4-2 & 4-5 are projects carried out collaboratively by g0v participants and the government. Also, none of them would say they “represent” g0v to work with gov.
http://opengovreport.ocf.tw/en/report#tab-4
In “Taiwan Open Gov Report” ch.4, we wrote some collaborative projects. Please note: only cases 4-2 & 4-5 are projects carried out collaboratively by g0v participants and the government. Also, none of them would say they “represent” g0v to work with gov.
http://opengovreport.ocf.tw/en/report#tab-4
@null
09:17:26
<Http://sense.tw> Today 10:00-1800 will organize the information community to care about issues such as network neutrality, privacy, blockchain, etc. (or network closure will bring the online community The topic of anger is located in a small tree house near Zhongshan Guozhong. Welcome everyone to join https://www.treerful.com/space/showpassword/7ce82110 (edited)
chihao
12:20:26
@mglee ++ that’s why I’m asking if @lizbarry is thinking of specific g0v projects or contributors. After all, imo g0v is not a singular “actor” that can act as anything.
@null
12:25:15
https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3274378 ( doi:10.1145/3274378 ) is also worth looking into for academic citation purposes
@null
12:29:46
Https://www.readr.tw/project/vote2018-result is also the use of the invoicing materials of the elections (also added the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Finance information, but anyway, open data, we look, but only Use a computer browser to have an interactive map XD
@null
17:57:41
MIT Technology review reported Vtaiwan here #vtaiwan https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tG6GPzxR2cTar0o1Rmrdj-WiGIdJKJB2
@null
22:52:46
Hi guys! I am looking for people who have been involved/participated in using Loomio in the Sunflower Movement! I want to visit the experience of using Loomio in the Sun Flower. About 3-5 people. Within 20-30 minutes. Used as a doctoral thesis. Don't know if there are any suggestions? Or is someone voluntarily? thank! :)
@null
23:33:32
Someone grabbed the problem reported by the voter. https://www.facebook.com/shilinjia/posts/10157382379835579
2018-12-02
tume
15:21:13
@idiot_weasel has joined the channel
@null
22:14:29
we need fimware English for DH-IPC-HDW1225C and DH-Ptz11024GN-P and DH-IPC-HDW4431-ASW
@null
22:20:54
@null
2018-12-03 01:27:25
Unfortunately, Anthony Bourdain seems to have hung up before he has been to Taiwan.
2018-12-03
a-chioh
00:12:54
@a-chioh has joined the channel
@null
01:20:42
I think this is a good observation, but it is hard to say that no one will be 14, 15 only one. Is it really necessary to verify that this observation can only be verified?
@null
11:11:23
I ask about the follow-up. In the case of Dasong, is there any intention to use UDTalk or someone willing to assist in interpretation? ~
@null
11:14:07
[Da Songmen God continues to solicit ~~ There are friends who have already signed up for 12/8 Dasong` are willing to help as a door god? At the door of the information office, someone needs to help pay attention to the people who come in and out. The rest is sitting at the door. ~~ Time is from 9:00 am to 6:00 pm. It is divided into 6 time periods and 1.5 hours in a time period. I hope I can take 2 time slots XD at a time. Can leave a message +1 ~~ Thanksgiving 0900-1030 A (V) 1030-1200 B (V) 1200-1330 C 1330-1500 D (V) 1500-1630 E 1630-1800 F
@null
2018-12-03 13:40:11
+1
@null
2018-12-03 14:30:56
@Alex Su has time to scream first~
patcon
13:37:54
anyone know where the g0v slang dictionary doc is? I had it at one point, but it's gone missing. (Or some words you _think_ are in it, that I could Google search)
au
13:38:59
g0v.hackpad.tw
本文授權: CC0 *工具類 irc: 聊天室,平常所見為公開聊天,也可對個人傳私訊 可查:IRC 禮儀 git: 版本控管系統 github: 版本控管系統服務商(社群網站),公開內容為免費使用 hackpad: 線上共筆 hackfoldr:黑客夾,收納hackpad、gdoc等線上文件 *黑話 *黑話: 就是黑話 *烤山豬:就是烤山豬 工作類 *:ballot_box_with_check: 黑客松: hackathon = hack marathon = 黑客馬拉松 = 黑客聚在一起(吃炸雞)一直一直一直寫程式 *:ballot_box_with_check: 黑客松:「黑客松的程式都是有機的,因為都有蟲」 by zonble (IRClog)
- 🙌2
@null
20:03:45
Hong Kong has already held two g0v hacks: skin-tone-2: https://www.facebook.com/1109497075736066/posts/2245955995423496?sfns=1
facebook.com
<http://g0vhk.io|g0vhk.io> Hackathon : Hong Kong Address Parser 坑主Brian認為香港的地址系統存在一定的問題,在將來的g0vhk項目上,如果能有一套能正確的識別地址系統將會能夠增強數據視覺化的效果。 Application: <https://addressparser.g0vhk.io> Git:...![]()
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@null
23:39:40
In fact, I am willing to teach people here, but a class is not enough QQ or a small class, the experience of the elders is very personal.
2018-12-04
lizbarry
04:41:26
thank you @chihao and @mglee!!!
@null
12:03:03
11/14 seems to have an election bulletin pdf posted in each county. It may be used to convert to general text. Http://eebulletin.cec.gov.tw/107/
@null
2018-12-04 13:38:26
Before the election, I saw @ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff doing digitalization of the election bulletin. I am not sure whether it is open to public repo.
@null
2018-12-04 13:39:22
I fell to the voting guide website and asked @johnny
@null
2018-12-04 14:27:14
This year, there was a bulletin information field at https://github.com/kiang/2018.cec.gov.tw/tree/master/05_raw_orig, which was later removed.
@null
13:38:26
Before the election, I saw @ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff doing digitalization of the election bulletin. I am not sure whether it is open to public repo.
@null
14:27:14
This year, there was a bulletin information field at https://github.com/kiang/2018.cec.gov.tw/tree/master/05_raw_orig, which was later removed.
@null
15:29:36
#jothon Claiming a food group or a door god
@null
2018-12-04 15:42:20
The first step is the door god~
2018-12-05
@null
13:34:17
Does anyone know how to teach Wikipedia editors? Because I think Wikipedia may be a piece of information that can be used to prove when breaking through the stratosphere. For example, when discussing with elders on Line, you can refer to Wikipedia as a source. So I would like to ask if anyone is familiar with the editing and specification of Wikipedia and can find opportunities to share in Dasong?
@null
2018-12-05 14:08:50
I also want to learn (do not understand)
@null
2018-12-05 14:40:06
Have @shangkuanlc
@null
2018-12-05 14:41:18
Hey, I have asked the Shangguan, he just happened to have another event that day.
lizbarry
2018-12-07 03:48:45
hi! can you provide more information about what you want to do?
@null
16:48:05
Hiiii Hello everyone, I am ALi. Currently at GITA (Global ICO Information Disclosure Self-Regulatory Alliance), GITA wants to make an ICO information disclosure open platform and define a globally adhered norm, rather than being customized by governments. Small prototype, you can look at the pen in detail! Https://gita.foundation/ https://g0v.hackpad.tw/ICO-transparency-platform-TqFhFwXrI4h #UX设计#IPFS #Other interested in understanding or having questions are welcome~~! ! (We also have a registration proposal on the day of 12/8: bow:)
@null
2018-12-05 18:22:24
@yhsiang @yurenju This one, help the tag string look
@null
2018-12-05 18:31:15
Now that ico feels that it has become too small, maybe you can consider doing STO?
@null
2018-12-05 19:15:42
Thanks for the suggestion! I will look at the team and see that the ICO is getting less and part of it also reflects everyone's distrust, which is what GITA hopes to solve.
@null
17:12:10
[Da Songmen God continues to solicit ~~ There are friends who have already signed up for 12/8 Dasong` are willing to help as a door god? At the door of the information office, someone needs to help pay attention to the people who come in and out. The rest is sitting at the door. ~~ Time is from 9:00 am to 6:00 pm. It is divided into 6 time periods and 1.5 hours in a time period. I hope I can take 2 time slots XD at a time. Can leave a message +1 ~~ Thanksgiving 0900-1030 A (V) 1030-1200 B (V) 1200-1330 C (V) 1330-1500 D (V) 1500-1630 E (V) 1630-1800 F ( V)
@null
17:22:52
Use action to prop up g0v big pine! <Https://www.facebook.com/g0v.tw/photos/a.456791061028852/2359413214099951>
@null
19:15:42
Thanks for the suggestion! I will look at the team and see that the ICO is getting less and part of it also reflects everyone's distrust, which is what GITA hopes to solve.
2018-12-06
@null
10:20:09
@chihao @ronnywang
昨天我在vtaiwan有討論到搬離Slack。有一些像Zulip的聊天室軟體的功能超越Slack,然後他們有給open source community無限使用權 (paid plans with unlimited search)。
http://zulipchat.com/
我給zulip發了這個e-mail了。
> Hi All,
> I hope this e-mail finds you well. I’m writing as a civic hacker in Taiwan. We have a large community of over 4,000 civic hackers working on projects that are open source and in the public domain. We are decentralized and our entire community relies on chat to collaborate.
> I would like to propose to the community that we migrate to Zulip because of your open source hosting plan and also because of Zulip’s threaded nature. Before I propose this, I’m wondering:
> Is Zulip translated into Traditional Chinese? (not Simplified)
> Can Zulip offer a free open source plan to our civic hacker network?
> You can read more about the g0v network here:
> a large list of open source projects we have created is here
> Please let me know if you have any questions! Thank you so much for your time!
有回應的話我會在這個thread裡面paste。
昨天我在vtaiwan有討論到搬離Slack。有一些像Zulip的聊天室軟體的功能超越Slack,然後他們有給open source community無限使用權 (paid plans with unlimited search)。
http://zulipchat.com/
我給zulip發了這個e-mail了。
> Hi All,
> I hope this e-mail finds you well. I’m writing as a civic hacker in Taiwan. We have a large community of over 4,000 civic hackers working on projects that are open source and in the public domain. We are decentralized and our entire community relies on chat to collaborate.
> I would like to propose to the community that we migrate to Zulip because of your open source hosting plan and also because of Zulip’s threaded nature. Before I propose this, I’m wondering:
> Is Zulip translated into Traditional Chinese? (not Simplified)
> Can Zulip offer a free open source plan to our civic hacker network?
> You can read more about the g0v network here:
> a large list of open source projects we have created is here
> Please let me know if you have any questions! Thank you so much for your time!
有回應的話我會在這個thread裡面paste。
patcon
2018-12-06 14:57:00
Re: zulip migration ++
What if we did it in a voluntary, unforced way? We can work to create slack-zulip bridging and add thread support for that, so people can migrate slowly at their own pace, or choose to be wherever they want.
Related ticket: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/638
What if we did it in a voluntary, unforced way? We can work to create slack-zulip bridging and add thread support for that, so people can migrate slowly at their own pace, or choose to be wherever they want.
Related ticket: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/638
@null
12:14:10
Hello everyone, the day after tomorrow is the big hit. On the eve of Dasong, on Friday night, there is a "Hangqian Hara", which is actually a g0v late night chat room (?), chatting, healing, and brainstorming. I am Chihao, the host who was pushed this time. I want to talk to the new participants here, don’t you talk about it? A total of pens for "Hamatsu Hara" can be found at the hackfoldr of Komatsu https://beta.hackfoldr.org/g0v-hackath32n If you have any questions, you can ask me. Finally, I want to say jothon hen, jothon++, everyone will see you at 9 o'clock tomorrow night.
patcon
14:57:00
Re: zulip migration ++
What if we did it in a voluntary, unforced way? We can work to create slack-zulip bridging and add thread support for that, so people can migrate slowly at their own pace, or choose to be wherever they want.
Related ticket: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/638
What if we did it in a voluntary, unforced way? We can work to create slack-zulip bridging and add thread support for that, so people can migrate slowly at their own pace, or choose to be wherever they want.
Related ticket: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/638
GitHub
Just adding a place to track details for threading support across protocols. Discord (no threads nor replies) Gitter (see below) Matrix/Riot (no threads, but has replies) Mattermost #627 RocketChat...
@null
15:38:59
😞 https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3c3m2/taiwanese_fishing_vessels_caught_killing_dolphins/
@null
20:15:35
Hello, everyone, it’s been a long time since g0v Summit 2018, missed Summit, or the friends who want to listen to the agenda. The staff held the event on 12/16 (day) 13:30~21:30. G0v Summit 2018 Review Marathon, welcome everyone to come and relive the wonderful agenda! <Https://g0v-summit2018.kktix.cc/events/6f8d6d30>
2018-12-07
@null
00:01:24
Suspected big pine pen list appeared in English!
@null
2018-12-07 04:44:07
Oh no! Did I break anything? :)
@null
2018-12-07 14:16:15
no just surprised that we have english title
@null
00:49:22
Cofacts There is a ruthlessness here. We are not able to attend this hackathon. Can we ask if we can make a remote proposal? QQ We have prepared a proposal suitable for remote participation. Currently, we are in the first list of proposals, no need to add more. Introduction, just play `youtube url: project report` and open subtitles (subtitles to be filled)
lizbarry
03:48:45
hi! can you provide more information about what you want to do?
@null
13:41:14
@null
2018-12-07 13:57:52
<Https://www.facebook.com/groups/odtwn/permalink/2655596627788072/> There is some discussion here
@null
13:57:52
<Https://www.facebook.com/groups/odtwn/permalink/2655596627788072/> There is some discussion here
@null
15:37:18
<Https://www.manyver.se> It feels quite interesting
patcon
2018-12-07 17:01:24
💯 yaaaay! and scuttlebutt community is doing really rad experiments with grantmaking.
https://github.com/ssbc/grants-process/blob/master/grants.md
https://github.com/ssbc/grants-process/blob/master/grants.md
patcon
2018-12-07 17:01:30
tl;dr - they don't incentivize product-creation, but instead incentivize commnity-creation. to product will fall out of that, and the community will live longer than the grant funding through the culture created ❤️
@null
16:53:26
I would like to ask about the @kiang political contribution. Before a friend (Ke) scanned a batch of documents, it seems that there is no way or no one has time to deal with it, right?
patcon
17:01:24
💯 yaaaay! and scuttlebutt community is doing really rad experiments with grantmaking.
https://github.com/ssbc/grants-process/blob/master/grants.md
https://github.com/ssbc/grants-process/blob/master/grants.md
GitHub
grants-process. Contribute to ssbc/grants-process development by creating an account on GitHub.
patcon
17:01:30
tl;dr - they don't incentivize product-creation, but instead incentivize commnity-creation. to product will fall out of that, and the community will live longer than the grant funding through the culture created ❤️
@null
17:01:42
Slackbot11's url: [103 Summary of the Political Contributions of the Candidates (Profit Business) For the 103 years of information on the political contributions of the candidates, a group of volunteers assisted in entering the Office to print information, scan and follow-up The information was beaten, and although the work has not yet been completed, today the status of the current processing is open, I hope to provide you with reference. Summary URL: https://kiang.github.io/cy.sunshine.2014/
@null
17:01:48
This plan only deals with the partial treatment of the profit-making business in the details of the profit-making account, because the profit-making business information has the name of completion, and can also link more reference materials; the current state has not completed all the scans. The processing of files and the correction of account information are mainly limited by the limited time of volunteers.
@null
17:01:53
In principle, this election should be made public after the election according to the relevant regulations. Only the old information can only be obtained by printing on paper. Therefore, this plan is produced and hopes to be helpful to friends who are interested in research. ]
@null
18:10:10
UDTalk for hackathon, tomorrow
- URL
https://service.udtalk.jp/redirect.php?token=68OZoTFyH4rN6xu2%2FXJpMkMXdhXSf9NfJmAm69KKGxUZs5dzo7HCgBLEPSLhxTMd%0D%0AyZa1ZnArf7VdClpuNNBP4DIU5wepwoNNKvGp1PIcLArruDkFQkuIlta6bA6dLFRB%0D%0AW4Z%2BfjgTUjMLikkO9B3VvmssQk22SmAZ1SLgCV%2FEdv7iXHynYuAd7f21dLF%2F7ecj%0D%0AfUweZlhGvJWC5KnnJn4lIYgna7uN28JrRdRWXBYtcqAOl8E3JO4d0vgAFEjfN3%2FE%0D%0APNJ8hMVojwt0nkAs%2F5JUi5milaLUJJOersTiTM2QwDs%3D
iOS & Android
After you access this page, you click "Join Talk" link for your device type.
Win & Mac
After you copy this URL, you click "Add Opened Talk" button and paste URL.
- Application is here
iOS
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id666188441
Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.shamrock_records.udtalk
- URL
https://service.udtalk.jp/redirect.php?token=68OZoTFyH4rN6xu2%2FXJpMkMXdhXSf9NfJmAm69KKGxUZs5dzo7HCgBLEPSLhxTMd%0D%0AyZa1ZnArf7VdClpuNNBP4DIU5wepwoNNKvGp1PIcLArruDkFQkuIlta6bA6dLFRB%0D%0AW4Z%2BfjgTUjMLikkO9B3VvmssQk22SmAZ1SLgCV%2FEdv7iXHynYuAd7f21dLF%2F7ecj%0D%0AfUweZlhGvJWC5KnnJn4lIYgna7uN28JrRdRWXBYtcqAOl8E3JO4d0vgAFEjfN3%2FE%0D%0APNJ8hMVojwt0nkAs%2F5JUi5milaLUJJOersTiTM2QwDs%3D
iOS & Android
After you access this page, you click "Join Talk" link for your device type.
Win & Mac
After you copy this URL, you click "Add Opened Talk" button and paste URL.
- Application is here
iOS
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id666188441
Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.shamrock_records.udtalk
patcon
2018-12-07 19:47:10
omg i'm so psyched to see how this works! 🎉 🎉 yay! yay! yay! I'm hoping I'll learn things I can bring back to Toronto
(Canada is a bi-lingual country, and Toronto is arguably the most multi-cultural city in the world)
(Canada is a bi-lingual country, and Toronto is arguably the most multi-cultural city in the world)
@null
2018-12-07 20:56:46
@yutin I will tell you about this system tomorrow https://www.cna.com.tw/news/firstnews/201812070039.aspx
@null
2018-12-07 21:15:19
@Michael_li Thanks for the notification, I know this tool, but today the subjective sensory recognition accuracy is not high enough. In addition, the purpose of use 1. Provide instant text translation 2. Mistranslation manual instant correction 3. Projection recognized text Currently these major and minor functions, Ya Ting verbatim draft is not yet supported, may be developed as future Reference
@null
2018-12-07 21:18:31
I am still using the web version of the machine learning stage (PM can not be made public), you can use the Youtube website to read the audio track generation.
@null
18:27:40
Because I have no way to free up long-term processing, Ronny is also busy, so please ask a few students to directly file the file, but before they finish processing, they have all been processed.
patcon
19:47:10
omg i'm so psyched to see how this works! 🎉 🎉 yay! yay! yay! I'm hoping I'll learn things I can bring back to Toronto
(Canada is a bi-lingual country, and Toronto is arguably the most multi-cultural city in the world)
(Canada is a bi-lingual country, and Toronto is arguably the most multi-cultural city in the world)
- 🥐1
@null
20:41:10
Hello everyone, it is me. Wait a minute, this is the "Songqian Hara" of Dasong, you can use this link to chat online https://meet.jit.si/g0vhala to be seen! Hi everyone, community hangout is scheduled to begin in 20 mins at 9pm Taiwan Time. Use this link to join: https://meet.jit.si/g0vhala See you soon!
@null
20:51:08
I have booked two tables at 6:30 pm tomorrow in the brick kiln restaurant. I welcome everyone to eat together after the end of the big pine tomorrow. More than two tables are also available. Brick Kiln Ancient Breakfast Restaurant Founding Shop 115 No. 318 Songhe Street, Nangang District, Taipei 02 2788 9040 https://goo.gl/maps/uVpmQM5uwZz
@null
2018-12-07 20:55:11
I should have no physical strength this time, but unfortunately.
patcon
2018-12-07 20:57:47
❤️
@null
20:56:46
@yutin I will tell you about this system tomorrow https://www.cna.com.tw/news/firstnews/201812070039.aspx
patcon
20:57:47
❤️
@null
21:15:19
@Michael_li Thanks for the notification, I know this tool, but today the subjective sensory recognition accuracy is not high enough. In addition, the purpose of use 1. Provide instant text translation 2. Mistranslation manual instant correction 3. Projection recognized text Currently these major and minor functions, Ya Ting verbatim draft is not yet supported, may be developed as future Reference
@null
21:18:31
I am still using the web version of the machine learning stage (PM can not be made public), you can use the Youtube website to read the audio track generation.
@null
21:47:27
@kahou: Hi~ I may change the far end to participate in XD tomorrow. Is there a ticket?
@null
22:37:37
40 people, can you broadcast a radio show? <Https://meet.jit.si/g0vhala>
@null
2018-12-07 23:42:03
There are so many people in Europe
2018-12-08
@null
09:59:32
Download UDTalk http://udtalk.jp/download/
@null
2018-12-08 10:24:43
I want to help, I have finished UD Talk (I am windows), the next step?
@null
2018-12-08 10:26:22
“Add opened talk” on the left, pasted this URL to connect: https://service.udtalk.jp/redirect.php?token=68OZoTFyH4rN6xu2%2FXJpMkMXdhXSf9NfJmAm69KKGxUZs5dzo7HCgBLEPSLhxTMd%0D%0AyZa1ZnArf7VdClpuNNBP4DIU5wepwoNNKvGp1PIcLArruDkFQkuIlta6bA6dLFRB%0D%0AW4Z%2BfjgTUjMLikkO9B3VvmssQk22SmAZ1SLgCV%2FEdv7iXHynYuAd7f21dLF%2F7ecj%0D%0AfUweZlhGvJWC5KnnJn4lIYgna7uN28JrRdRWXBYtcqAOl8E3JO4d0vgAFEjfN3%2FE%0D%0APNJ8hMVojwt0nkAs%2F5JUi5milaLUJJOersTiTM2QwDs%3D
@null
10:10:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjxJnZU2iaM Thank you for joining the project after watching the movie. Remember to write a small question about the company. Because neighbors will not judge who is the robot: robot_face: Thanks
@null
10:18:02
Hi I am Ivy, the first time to participate in the newcomer, the green cycle map (environmental reduction). But I thought that even if I created a hackpad, I just registered, but I just found out that I have to register for another file to have 3 minutes of QQ.
@null
2018-12-08 10:26:07
You can also publish the results and tell you about the progress and how you can help later.
@null
10:19:56
Please contact me if you are interested. Hackpad https://g0v.hackpad.tw/Zero-Waste-Taiwan--6NXMciUCiAc Ideas Brief https://drive.google.com/file/d/12N37SxDXFPZYbCt0B7Z1SZLh7dbqjDxP/view?usp=sharing
@null
10:26:07
You can also publish the results and tell you about the progress and how you can help later.
@null
10:26:22
“Add opened talk” on the left, pasted this URL to connect: https://service.udtalk.jp/redirect.php?token=68OZoTFyH4rN6xu2%2FXJpMkMXdhXSf9NfJmAm69KKGxUZs5dzo7HCgBLEPSLhxTMd%0D%0AyZa1ZnArf7VdClpuNNBP4DIU5wepwoNNKvGp1PIcLArruDkFQkuIlta6bA6dLFRB%0D%0AW4Z%2BfjgTUjMLikkO9B3VvmssQk22SmAZ1SLgCV%2FEdv7iXHynYuAd7f21dLF%2F7ecj%0D%0AfUweZlhGvJWC5KnnJn4lIYgna7uN28JrRdRWXBYtcqAOl8E3JO4d0vgAFEjfN3%2FE%0D%0APNJ8hMVojwt0nkAs%2F5JUi5milaLUJJOersTiTM2QwDs%3D
@null
10:27:27
I am the second person to come to the proposal. Please look for me if you are interested.
@null
10:28:09
Film Verbatim Automation & Organizing System g0v tw hackath32n - Proposal - Film Verbatim Automation & Organizing System / Michael LI - Honey Lemon Pine - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki85ziA38AA https:// Grants.g0v.tw/projects/587388cb8798fb001e7324de
@null
10:35:40
Hello everyone, I am @liz of iTaigi. Today's pit owner is @sing5hong5. Our channel is #itaigi. I look forward to your joining. In addition to writing programs, interested in Taiwanese or want to learn Taiwanese, I will come back at two o'clock this afternoon to provide a variety of Taiwanese language consultation and services.
@null
10:41:52
@chihao @ronnywang
昨天我在vtaiwan有討論到搬離Slack。有一些像Zulip的聊天室軟體的功能超越Slack,然後他們有給open source community無限使用權 (paid plans with unlimited search)。
http://zulipchat.com/
我給zulip發了這個e-mail了。
> Hi All,
> I hope this e-mail finds you well. I’m writing as a civic hacker in Taiwan. We have a large community of over 4,000 civic hackers working on projects that are open source and in the public domain. We are decentralized and our entire community relies on chat to collaborate.
> I would like to propose to the community that we migrate to Zulip because of your open source hosting plan and also because of Zulip’s threaded nature. Before I propose this, I’m wondering:
> Is Zulip translated into Traditional Chinese? (not Simplified)
> Can Zulip offer a free open source plan to our civic hacker network?
> You can read more about the g0v network here:
> a large list of open source projects we have created is here
> Please let me know if you have any questions! Thank you so much for your time!
有回應的話我會在這個thread裡面paste。
昨天我在vtaiwan有討論到搬離Slack。有一些像Zulip的聊天室軟體的功能超越Slack,然後他們有給open source community無限使用權 (paid plans with unlimited search)。
http://zulipchat.com/
我給zulip發了這個e-mail了。
> Hi All,
> I hope this e-mail finds you well. I’m writing as a civic hacker in Taiwan. We have a large community of over 4,000 civic hackers working on projects that are open source and in the public domain. We are decentralized and our entire community relies on chat to collaborate.
> I would like to propose to the community that we migrate to Zulip because of your open source hosting plan and also because of Zulip’s threaded nature. Before I propose this, I’m wondering:
> Is Zulip translated into Traditional Chinese? (not Simplified)
> Can Zulip offer a free open source plan to our civic hacker network?
> You can read more about the g0v network here:
> a large list of open source projects we have created is here
> Please let me know if you have any questions! Thank you so much for your time!
有回應的話我會在這個thread裡面paste。
@null
2018-12-08 10:41:55
Hello everyone! With everyone in the proposal: Zulip has allowed us to use their free open source plan (unlimited search, archiving). I will spend some time today to study what the process will look like if I want to migrate to zulip. If you are interested, please come to me! Hi Kevin, Thanks for writing in! We'd be happy to host g0v for free, under our open source plan. We do have a partial translation into Traditional Chinese, but probably not sufficient for someone who didn't speak English. I expect You could get it into a pretty good state with less than a day of work, especially if you skip translating uncommon error messages. To get a feel of what translating is like, you could create an account on https://www.transifex. Com/zulip/zulip/ and try translating a few strings. Best, Rishi
@null
2018-12-08 10:42:28
Coooool
@null
2018-12-08 10:49:01
Created #zulip
@null
2018-12-08 10:49:07
Or can you build a bridge on both sides? Just let the slack conversation appear in zulip, zulip appears here
@null
2018-12-08 10:49:11
This can be slowly transferred to the past
@null
2018-12-08 10:49:30
I will study it today.
@null
2018-12-08 10:53:18
we are now on zulip’s open source plan.
@null
2018-12-08 10:54:34
@patcon can you walk me through matterbridge and deploying a chatbot? never done it before and would like to bridge slack and zulp.
patcon
2018-12-08 20:22:24
Happy to! It can be done now without any threading feature, but could use some pull-request-love
patcon
2018-12-08 20:23:42
Also, will be much easier to do for a few keys channels right now. If we want it done for every channel in a dynamic way, it will take some work
patcon
2018-12-08 20:25:13
I would suggest we hold off on really pushing zulips use until we get at least threading working better. Otherwise, using the key useful feature of zulip will result in confusing disjointed interactions between platforms. Seems like it might be a bad impression? But open to whatever :)
@null
10:41:55
Hello everyone! With everyone in the proposal: Zulip has allowed us to use their free open source plan (unlimited search, archiving). I will spend some time today to study what the process will look like if I want to migrate to zulip. If you are interested, please come to me! Hi Kevin, Thanks for writing in! We'd be happy to host g0v for free, under our open source plan. We do have a partial translation into Traditional Chinese, but probably not sufficient for someone who didn't speak English. I expect You could get it into a pretty good state with less than a day of work, especially if you skip translating uncommon error messages. To get a feel of what translating is like, you could create an account on https://www.transifex. Com/zulip/zulip/ and try translating a few strings. Best, Rishi
@null
10:49:07
Or can you build a bridge on both sides? Just let the slack conversation appear in zulip, zulip appears here
@null
10:54:34
@patcon can you walk me through matterbridge and deploying a chatbot? never done it before and would like to bridge slack and zulp.
@null
10:56:16
Hi @patcon I do really hope Magic Chat Portals works through Line group chat and Facebook messenger.
So the two different mainstreams can be connected.
So the two different mainstreams can be connected.
@null
11:01:39
Hi I am PTT ID Profiling, welcome to join the discussion / use it to see / mouth po / complement function ~ Hackmd: https://hackmd.io/exk-xSfRSamzw9oRglWS-g?view GITHUB: https://github. Com/GundamBox/PttCrawler
@null
11:03:35
Excuse me: Who is the owner/admin of g0v Slack?
@null
2018-12-08 11:04:24
@ronnywang?
@null
2018-12-08 11:04:46
I will make up for it in the community governance.
@null
2018-12-08 11:08:44
I am here to make up.
@null
11:15:25
Hi Hello everyone, I am Allen Li Meishu Memorial Information Group. We are going to deal with an interesting database this time - wikidata solicit all types of interested friends. Unlimited skills tree Welcome to us. Welcome: https://hackmd.io/4zBqrwb9SEGDf7e_jUXa- g#
@null
11:21:06
Hello everyone, my name is Alex. It is also the first time to participate in a newcomer, mainly doing XD in ecological research.
@null
11:30:36
Morning, have mic, internet & construction issue,
so broadcast and UDTalk cant catch clean voice
So far, thet mic issue fixed, will fix internet issue in the afternoon.
Video will upload to youtube
https://www.youtube.com/c/g0vTW/
Co-writing https://beta.hackfoldr.org/g0v-hackath32n/
so broadcast and UDTalk cant catch clean voice
So far, thet mic issue fixed, will fix internet issue in the afternoon.
Video will upload to youtube
https://www.youtube.com/c/g0vTW/
Co-writing https://beta.hackfoldr.org/g0v-hackath32n/
@null
2018-12-08 11:34:56
@shamrock1976
Maybe, it need some keyword list? we can co-edit this keyword?
“坑主” voice will catch to “公主“, it is g0ver words
And translation problems like “爬蟲” is Taiwanese words it’s “parser”
Maybe, it need some keyword list? we can co-edit this keyword?
“坑主” voice will catch to “公主“, it is g0ver words
And translation problems like “爬蟲” is Taiwanese words it’s “parser”
@null
11:34:56
@shamrock1976
Maybe, it need some keyword list? we can co-edit this keyword?
“坑主” voice will catch to “公主“, it is g0ver words
And translation problems like “爬蟲” is Taiwanese words it’s “parser”
Maybe, it need some keyword list? we can co-edit this keyword?
“坑主” voice will catch to “公主“, it is g0ver words
And translation problems like “爬蟲” is Taiwanese words it’s “parser”
@null
11:46:21
I am a big help. If I want to find a friend of Novice Village, I am here at the registration desk~~~ https://g0v.hackmd.io/g0village?both
@null
11:52:59
12:10 Discuss OGP in R101? @ttcat_not_bot_not_staff @isabelhou @yutin @stella @chihao
@null
2018-12-08 11:59:48
I’m here 🙂
@null
12:14:14
I just helped Chen Huiqi to organize a piece of information, by the way, sharing Cai Jiawei, parents are deaf and dumb, design "iHelp" App https://hackmd.io/Tk4n1NWVQZiUkst0jMCIBg?view
@null
12:16:44
Come and welcome everyone to r101 to talk about OGP, we will go to Canada together in May next year. Chinese Taipei (?) needs you, we may discuss the plan of the open government
@null
12:19:20
@ I want to ask you questions, wait for a meeting, please? (I am currently sitting next to the TV in the food area)
@null
13:32:16
@kjcl Where are you? I think two things can be done 1) Reference g0v domain Apply draft https://g0v.hackmd.io/yGROx4beTkWDmBYM8xHiSg 2) If you want to put http://g0v.tw, you can look at the code https://github .com/g0v/g0v.tw
@null
15:08:57
I want to try to open a children's book, short film creation plan: tell China's bad things in a warm and touching way https://g0v.hackmd.io/WzbAgjSMTZCHf7HmS4Hwyw#
@null
2018-12-08 15:17:19
In case of bad times, I heard too many bad words. When I grew up, I found that the people are very good and the construction is very advanced. In fact, there is no such bad and big love. XDDDD (Party-state education is also talking about the bad things of the Communist Party. Now many people love it.)
@null
2018-12-08 15:46:27
Cool dead
@null
15:11:39
Yes, not a technician, but someone who wants to organize the data can also find me. We use the artificial intelligence system to read the movie, automatically generate a verbatim draft, and then manually correct the wrong text.
@null
15:17:19
In case of bad times, I heard too many bad words. When I grew up, I found that the people are very good and the construction is very advanced. In fact, there is no such bad and big love. XDDDD (Party-state education is also talking about the bad things of the Communist Party. Now many people love it.)
@null
15:18:28
@yellowsoar++ 金句 "The community is not a radish pit, but you must first dig a pit"
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@null
16:24:24
I booked the seat of the brick kiln restaurant in the evening. I welcome everyone to eat together after the end of the big pine. 19:00 Miss Jian Brick Kiln Ancient Breakfast Restaurant Founding Shop 115 No. 318 Songhe Street, Nangang District, Taipei 02 2788 9040 https://goo.gl/maps/MjNrWBNsnBT2
@null
2018-12-08 17:05:44
I remember drawing the map, I don’t know if I’m still there.
@null
17:26:26
@agameofprivacy @superbil also has oid data cleaned up
@null
2018-12-08 17:27:17
thanks, @clkao I’ll get in touch!
@null
2018-12-08 17:35:53
I'm interested too, count me in! (I think @agameofprivacy and @superbil already know me ;)
@null
2018-12-08 17:38:27
we were attempting to use the popolo spec for government agencies, so we can also establish history changes if there’s agency restructure. but i think there were some issues
@null
17:35:53
I'm interested too, count me in! (I think @agameofprivacy and @superbil already know me ;)
@null
17:38:27
we were attempting to use the popolo spec for government agencies, so we can also establish history changes if there’s agency restructure. but i think there were some issues
@null
17:45:30
Push @ronnywang variant tool (touched)
@null
2018-12-08 17:46:17
Climbing the pain of the data
@null
2018-12-08 17:47:32
Seems to be able to use OpenCC to change? https://github.com/BYVoid/OpenCC
@null
2018-12-08 17:48:27
Here is the comparison table of the Chinese characters in Unihan_Variants.txt in the Unihan Database of Unicode.
@null
2018-12-08 17:49:44
I Ctrl+F to find some common characters that are currently used to deal with names, such as 眞真, museums, groups, peaks and peaks can be found, so I will try to use this to generate a conversion comparison tool.
@null
17:45:37
I am going to the brick kiln restaurant in the early morning to eat at the restaurant. I need to take a safe road map when I am in the meeting. I have drawn a copy for you. https://www.flickr.com/photos/_michael_li_/26893502689/ In/album-72157681607008605/
@null
17:48:27
Here is the comparison table of the Chinese characters in Unihan_Variants.txt in the Unihan Database of Unicode.
@null
17:49:44
I Ctrl+F to find some common characters that are currently used to deal with names, such as 眞真, museums, groups, peaks and peaks can be found, so I will try to use this to generate a conversion comparison tool.
@null
17:57:32
@null
2018-12-08 17:58:52
Just reported cross-platform emoji @patcon's departure from the farewell party to play ~
@null
17:58:52
Just reported cross-platform emoji @patcon's departure from the farewell party to play ~
chihyuchen28
17:59:07
@chihyuchen28 has joined the channel
@null
18:57:17
Supplement: In the morning, my proposal is "Verbatim & Finishing System", mentioning "Alexander Library" https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/Alexandria Library
patcon
20:22:24
Happy to! It can be done now without any threading feature, but could use some pull-request-love
patcon
20:23:42
Also, will be much easier to do for a few keys channels right now. If we want it done for every channel in a dynamic way, it will take some work
patcon
20:25:13
I would suggest we hold off on really pushing zulips use until we get at least threading working better. Otherwise, using the key useful feature of zulip will result in confusing disjointed interactions between platforms. Seems like it might be a bad impression? But open to whatever :)
@null
21:23:19
I would like to ask you what other Facebook fan pages or Line pages can be recommended to the elders besides "Life Information Like"? I found out that I taught my mother to use Line and wanted to provide her with more correct information.
@null
2018-12-09 11:59:41
"News Helper" Facebook page // I will post some information about the fake news "Taiwan reporter IQ 30" (Facebook page) is OK, but the number of editors here is not necessarily my post.
@null
2018-12-09 12:01:29
My mom's Facebook book has a few pages on the content farm (fan page), and often runs out of messy nonsense articles, pay attention to this situation not happen to your mother.
@null
21:37:30
@patcon what’s the key word you mentioned before leaving? “xxx hub”? Can’t recall the verb you used which i think was great…..(me --> golden fish brain)
patcon
2018-12-08 23:06:37
Hmmm... Prob used too many words, but around hub, maybe... Repair? Routing? What was the essense of the xxx part?
@null
21:58:37
It is estimated that there are still about 80 bags of coffee bags until March next year, to see if there is any activity in the middle. Or Komatsu used a XD to put it in March for a long time XD
@null
2018-12-08 22:12:32
@yutin ogp Komatsu can come and get some, @ky vtaiwan Do you all drink beer and not drink coffee? XD
@null
2018-12-08 23:26:30
I knew that I would take 2 more bags, my mom liked it.
@null
2018-12-09 00:30:02
No one really said that I want to drink coffee, but it is not so drunk XDD.
@null
22:12:32
@yutin ogp Komatsu can come and get some, @ky vtaiwan Do you all drink beer and not drink coffee? XD
patcon
23:06:37
Hmmm... Prob used too many words, but around hub, maybe... Repair? Routing? What was the essense of the xxx part?
Someone (across chat bridge)
23:25:58
File from yutin (general@g0vtw)with comment: A transcript of g0v hackath32n cc. @patcon
2018-12-09
@null
00:02:29
@yutin Google Speech Cloud API can not register unique words. But UDTalk has a function of replacing words.
If “坑主” is always “公主“, I set it. Of course you can set yourself, but this function page is only Japanese (now I create English page).
If you have some simple replacing case, please give me a list of replacing.
Translating is similar. Now I am creating function of replacing before translating.
If “爬蟲” is always “parser”, I can set it.
If “坑主” is always “公主“, I set it. Of course you can set yourself, but this function page is only Japanese (now I create English page).
If you have some simple replacing case, please give me a list of replacing.
Translating is similar. Now I am creating function of replacing before translating.
If “爬蟲” is always “parser”, I can set it.
1- 👍1
@null
11:59:41
"News Helper" Facebook page // I will post some information about the fake news "Taiwan reporter IQ 30" (Facebook page) is OK, but the number of editors here is not necessarily my post.
@null
12:01:29
My mom's Facebook book has a few pages on the content farm (fan page), and often runs out of messy nonsense articles, pay attention to this situation not happen to your mother.
@null
12:15:08
@niehbaby I told my classmates yesterday that you want to do a video app. He said that he can connect with him. Please use the "Sunglasses" fan group, his assistants will help them to contact. <Https://www.facebook.com/russkantw/>
@null
12:20:22
@niehbaby i-AIM APP's introduction https://technews.tw/2015/06/12/i-aim-app-the-blind-agent/
@null
12:32:57
[Share] "i-AIM APP x Eye RUN" wants to be a good helper in the life of visually impaired friends! - eDonkey girl https://agirls.aotter.net/post/24311
@null
21:37:37
Thanks for sharing ~~ If there is a robot that can share these Facebook articles to the Line page, it would be great.
@null
22:34:34
I always feel that the smart speaker should provide a certain level of assistance for the visually impaired...
2018-12-10
@null
06:29:06
On that day, I talked about the hand-translators (sign language interpreters) of the 100,000-strong hearing-impaired people in Taiwan. There are only 400 100,000 vs 400 interpreters. The development period is very long. It is basically the basic Xiao Nie said that he has been doing it for 20 years.
@null
10:18:19
Not interesting little knowledge: Taiwan currently has less than 400 audiologists practicing
@null
10:34:12
G0v Does anyone have a project related to traffic engineering?
@null
2018-12-10 12:34:12
Taiwan Road is flatter
@null
11:25:28
I have to inquire about it by the way, to check whether the hearing is degraded, is it possible to register directly in the "ENT?"
@null
11:54:20
In principle, it is recommended to first use the medical institution inquiry system https://ma.mohw.gov.tw/masearch/SearchBAS-101-1.aspx to confirm that the hospital you are going to has a licensed audiologist.
Someone (across chat bridge)
11:55:19
File from jedi (general@g0vtw)with comment: 例如像這樣,表示這間醫院有 4 位聽力師
@null
12:04:16
<Https://grants.g0v.tw/dashboards/2019a/create> There are cross-browser and automatic archiving features! Excuse me, how do you do this?
@null
12:42:57
After the smooth archiving, it seems that I still can't see it? <Https://grants.g0v.tw/dashboards/2019a?sort=showcase>
Someone (across chat bridge)
13:51:37
File from Casy (general@g0vtw)with comment: Hi~想了解一下"請列出這個計畫的目標對象,他們的需求、情境與使用動機(200 ~ 500 字)"的字數限制是500字,不過,在ms word中428字的內容仍然被擋下來了。不知道是不是有什麼樣的解決方式?
@null
13:53:18
Maybe it is blank? How is this calculated? <Http://word.0123456789.tw/>
Someone (across chat bridge)
2018-12-10 13:56:03
File from Casy (general@g0vtw)with comment: 含空白495字,不知道是不是很邊緣的說
@null
2018-12-10 13:59:19
Ok solved, by deleting 3 spaces. Thank you very much~🙂
@null
2018-12-10 15:01:14
Will it be because the number of words in the system is the number of characters, causing `LGBT` to be counted as 4 words, but in Word he will count as 1 word.
@null
2018-12-10 15:02:45
Blame, the word count computer is also a character @@@
Someone (across chat bridge)
13:56:03
File from Casy (general@g0vtw)with comment: 含空白495字,不知道是不是很邊緣的說
@null
14:09:13
Ok, fix the proposal page. XD added the "Proposer Profile" field to this proposal, but I didn't add this field before the test last week, so I tested ok before, but now I'm blasting XD online. It should be OK now, because There are drafts, so things should not be gone yet, everyone can try the proposal again.
@null
14:15:18
Hey, I am a reporter who is a political donation project. It’s like a scan file to become a tofu. Some process is required. @ronnywang
@null
15:01:14
Will it be because the number of words in the system is the number of characters, causing `LGBT` to be counted as 4 words, but in Word he will count as 1 word.
2018-12-11
@null
16:33:42
I want to run this, but it is RoR XD # https://github.com/popolo-project/popolo-engine
@null
2018-12-11 16:52:25
@wildjcrt
patcon
2018-12-11 17:40:22
I used to use RoR amateurly! (my home city of Toronto has among the highest density of RoR developers for awhile. Hundreds at the meetups)
patcon
2018-12-11 17:42:11
Also, I've used the opencivicdata project for a few years, and am pretty familiar with that toolchain, which is based on popolo.
patcon
2018-12-11 17:42:40
Also, @jpmckinney is in here, and he was a big force in writing the popolo spec, if I understand correctly :)
@null
16:50:00
It’s not difficult to run, but I feel that if I want to change it, the threshold is a lot higher than XD.
@null
16:53:30
I am wrong, can change, basically follow RoR engines' override method https://guides.rubyonrails.org/engines.html#improving-engine-functionality
@null
16:54:42
I want to get a Taiwanese character database, still thinking about reinventing the wheel orz
@null
16:55:58
So if you want to change the view, basically refer to https://guides.rubyonrails.org/engines.html#overriding-views
@null
16:56:56
Rails has a lookup path for the view, you will check your `app/views/popolo/` first. If you don't have one, check the engine.
@null
16:57:32
So the change is to see if you want to change it and copy it from here to your own `app/views/popolo` https://github.com/popolo-project/popolo-engine/tree/master/app/views/ Popolo
@null
17:02:15
If you want to modify the kit and install your own modified version, you can fork it to your own project and change the gem installation path from http://rubygems.org to your own repo.
@null
17:06:39
So if you don't just change the view, you have to change the model and maintain the exchangeable format. It seems that the scope is not small.
@null
17:07:23
Yeah, if you are familiar with Rails, you should not spend too much time, just not familiar with XD.
@null
17:09:21
Does anyone make bread by themselves? Can I provide a photo of the bread? G0v Grants want to make friends with bread, you need to make a picture
patcon
2018-12-11 17:44:51
What the heck is "bread" in English? 😆 google is confused
@null
2018-12-11 17:48:16
bread is today’s meme….
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3593863
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3593863
@null
2018-12-11 17:54:25
Ooooh! Thanks :) I need to start following PTT ;)
patcon
17:40:22
I used to use RoR amateurly! (my home city of Toronto has among the highest density of RoR developers for awhile. Hundreds at the meetups)
patcon
17:42:11
Also, I've used the opencivicdata project for a few years, and am pretty familiar with that toolchain, which is based on popolo.
patcon
17:42:40
Replied to a thread: 2018-12-11 16:33:42
Also, @jpmckinney is in here, and he was a big force in writing the popolo spec, if I understand correctly :)
patcon
17:44:51
What the heck is "bread" in English? 😆 google is confused
@null
18:12:12
@howawong hi! Does g0vhk have a slack team?
@null
2018-12-11 18:13:29
A good friend from civic scene in Toronto is from HK as a kid, and will be travelling there soon, and wants to know how the community works
@null
2018-12-11 18:14:58
He works on mesh networking, but cares about community and funding stuff too.
Twitters & GitHub: https://keybase.io/benhylau
Twitters & GitHub: https://keybase.io/benhylau
@null
2018-12-11 18:18:37
Also can you share the GitHub repo for http://g0vhk.io website? Chrome android won't letting me translate it for some reason, so I hope to investigate and submit a PR :tada:
@null
2018-12-11 20:23:46
Yes of course!
@null
2018-12-11 20:23:52
Will update you
@null
18:13:29
A good friend from civic scene in Toronto is from HK as a kid, and will be travelling there soon, and wants to know how the community works
@null
18:14:58
He works on mesh networking, but cares about community and funding stuff too.
Twitters & GitHub: https://keybase.io/benhylau
Twitters & GitHub: https://keybase.io/benhylau
keybase.io
benhylau (Benedict Lau) is now on Keybase, an open source app for encryption and cryptography.![]()
@null
18:18:37
Also can you share the GitHub repo for http://g0vhk.io website? Chrome android won't letting me translate it for some reason, so I hope to investigate and submit a PR :tada:
@null
18:21:49
@hcchien hi, Although I haven't seen it for a long time, popolo can solve the demand on Taiwan format, so it should be okay? You want to do that part?
@null
2018-12-11 18:23:06
Now I mainly want to build up the relationship information of Taiwan, but it seems that I need a lot of extra fields.
@null
2018-12-11 19:56:48
Like those relationships?
@null
18:23:06
Now I mainly want to build up the relationship information of Taiwan, but it seems that I need a lot of extra fields.
@null
20:46:13
@hcchien why not wiki data?
@null
2018-12-11 21:18:15
@chihao: ??
@null
2018-12-11 21:24:40
Use wiki data as taiwan people database
@null
2018-12-11 21:53:31
@chihao: It seems that there is a universal exchange format喔
@null
2018-12-11 22:04:57
Popolo or wikidata?
@null
2018-12-11 22:31:35
people
patcon
2018-12-12 00:38:21
Might be able to make some sort of adapter, but popolo already exists and has existing tooling has lots of specific import edge cases addressed. Porting popolo data to wikidata after sounds worthwhile
@null
21:07:12
I just watched a public news report about Ding Shouzhong’s ticket. At present, there is no answer to the election. I have to apply for the national compensation compensation. Does anyone want to know how much Ding Shouzhong spent the national treasury? Ke Wenzhe talked about it a few days ago. 11 million second reserve
@null
2018-12-11 21:19:55
The completion of the Taipei Jubilee election vote will be announced tomorrow. https://news.pts.org.tw/article/415894
@null
21:19:55
The completion of the Taipei Jubilee election vote will be announced tomorrow. https://news.pts.org.tw/article/415894
@null
22:12:52
<Https://tw.appledaily.com/new/realtime/20181211/1481394/> Feel @yutin's reptiles to run a few times to see which changes should be fun
2018-12-12
patcon
00:38:21
Might be able to make some sort of adapter, but popolo already exists and has existing tooling has lots of specific import edge cases addressed. Porting popolo data to wikidata after sounds worthwhile
@null
01:42:02
And in case anyone wants to come to my more formal presentation during the daytime, at Taiwan Foundation for Democracy HQ, here's the poster for that below. (Fixed.)
If you do think you might come to for TFD one, pls mark an emoji so I can relay rough numbers (they bring cakey delicious thing) :)
If you do think you might come to for TFD one, pls mark an emoji so I can relay rough numbers (they bring cakey delicious thing) :)
@null
02:02:16
@niehbaby Pure reference, I just learned that I see the theme is a vulnerable group to share https://www.facebook.com/events/169213464033508/?ti=ia
Someone (across chat bridge)
03:02:14
File from patcon (general@g0vtw)with comment: Ah odd... Fixed!
@null
09:09:33
Has anyone ever met, the government has issued a software package for the private software company (input method), the government has the willingness to open source (also willing to pay the corresponding amount), but involves the core technology of the manufacturer, so the manufacturer is not willing, this situation Is there no solution?
@null
2018-12-12 09:31:02
The case upstairs is mainly the input method of the Taiwanese input method. There are two ways to write the program. 1. Write the program yourself, connect the operating system API 2. Generate the spelling table, use the ready-made frame upstairs should refer to the first situation.
@null
2018-12-12 09:32:53
After I simple google, I think that the choice of windows 2 is not much, it should go 1 Mac has openvilla, linux has ibus, fcitx, gcin, scim, ...., so you can go 2
@null
2018-12-12 09:34:57
So I think 1, 2 should be bidding separately. 1 involves the issue of the landlord. 2 is to open all the conversion programs in the middle of the textbook xls to the spelling table.
@null
2018-12-12 09:38:52
The core package is just fine, the government package package windows with pime
@null
2018-12-12 09:39:09
If only the core technology is not open source, then the non-core is open source, the artillery core
@null
2018-12-12 09:41:07
Forgot andriod and ios, can @shiami supplement the input method framework? Say your input method actually has open source, in fact, can be regarded as a framework?
@null
2018-12-12 09:42:58
<Https://github.com/chinese-opendesktop/cin-tables> To stipulate that you can use this cin-tables
@null
2018-12-12 09:45:31
@chadliu23 pime like, then all have a framework. What is the format of cin-tables? Should each framework be its own format?
@null
2018-12-12 09:47:07
It is the format specified by openvilla. Taiwan can use this format for input methods. Yahoo and natural input methods are supported.
@null
2018-12-12 09:47:59
This format is basically the keyin on the word, which is the spelling table.
@null
2018-12-12 09:50:37
The core technology, I guess is Lenovo, full sentence correction, header input, or reaction speed, and other additional features.
@null
2018-12-12 09:52:08
@liz may have to trouble list, what are the conditions of the ideal input method (add words, word frequency use, according to the text before and after the adjustment words, @chadliu23 talk about the function...), try the new cool sound pime do not get
@null
2018-12-12 10:19:40
The conditions are probably all right. I really don't understand the technical problems that you said. Maybe I will convey this possibility first. If you hold a consultation meeting, please ask @sing5hong5 or other friends to attend?
@null
09:31:02
The case upstairs is mainly the input method of the Taiwanese input method. There are two ways to write the program. 1. Write the program yourself, connect the operating system API 2. Generate the spelling table, use the ready-made frame upstairs should refer to the first situation.
@null
09:32:53
After I simple google, I think that the choice of windows 2 is not much, it should go 1 Mac has openvilla, linux has ibus, fcitx, gcin, scim, ...., so you can go 2
@null
09:34:57
So I think 1, 2 should be bidding separately. 1 involves the issue of the landlord. 2 is to open all the conversion programs in the middle of the textbook xls to the spelling table.
@null
09:39:09
If only the core technology is not open source, then the non-core is open source, the artillery core
@null
09:41:07
Forgot andriod and ios, can @shiami supplement the input method framework? Say your input method actually has open source, in fact, can be regarded as a framework?
@null
09:42:58
<Https://github.com/chinese-opendesktop/cin-tables> To stipulate that you can use this cin-tables
@null
09:45:31
@chadliu23 pime like, then all have a framework. What is the format of cin-tables? Should each framework be its own format?
@null
09:47:07
It is the format specified by openvilla. Taiwan can use this format for input methods. Yahoo and natural input methods are supported.
@null
09:50:37
The core technology, I guess is Lenovo, full sentence correction, header input, or reaction speed, and other additional features.
@null
09:52:08
@liz may have to trouble list, what are the conditions of the ideal input method (add words, word frequency use, according to the text before and after the adjustment words, @chadliu23 talk about the function...), try the new cool sound pime do not get
@null
10:19:40
The conditions are probably all right. I really don't understand the technical problems that you said. Maybe I will convey this possibility first. If you hold a consultation meeting, please ask @sing5hong5 or other friends to attend?
@null
11:06:27
Fusion Table wants to receive QQ
@null
2018-12-12 11:13:04
Data Studio is a good use to say
@null
2018-12-12 11:13:45
Just not sure if data studio can do batch geocoding
@null
2018-12-12 11:14:27
Fusion Table is the most convenient tool for going to the public service or private company to teach the quality of the data.
@null
11:14:27
Fusion Table is the most convenient tool for going to the public service or private company to teach the quality of the data.
@null
13:57:09
You can use the information in the selection of the meeting to confirm whether the information on your hand is wrong (you can also add the fan page XD # https://www.facebook.com/readr.tw/posts/732011183863934
@null
14:23:22
<Https://grants.g0v.tw/dashboards/2019a> There have been two proposals for the grant, and the wish list contains eight examples of wishing! If you don't know what to do as a grant proposal, you can also refer to the wishing pool!
Someone (across chat bridge)
15:39:03
File from patcon (general@g0vtw)with comment: Hey all! I know daytimes are tough, but if you wanted a chance to see the TFD office and hear a summary of my final research report, I would love to host you at this event:
*Mapping the Taiwanese g0v Movement: A Canadian Civic Tech Perspective*
:date: *Date:* Fri, Dec. 14 @ 10:00-11:30
📍 *Location:* Room 202, Taiwan Foundation for Democracy https://maps.google.com/?cid=3240772425868935671
*Mapping the Taiwanese g0v Movement: A Canadian Civic Tech Perspective*
:date: *Date:* Fri, Dec. 14 @ 10:00-11:30
📍 *Location:* Room 202, Taiwan Foundation for Democracy https://maps.google.com/?cid=3240772425868935671
@null
15:41:18
Hey all! I know daytimes are tough, but if you wanted a chance to see the TFD office and hear a summary of my final research report, I would love to host you at this event:
*Mapping the Taiwanese g0v Movement: A Canadian Civic Tech Perspective*
📅 *Date:* Fri, Dec. 14 @ 10:00-11:30
:round_pushpin: *Location:* Room 202, Taiwan Foundation for Democracy https://maps.google.com/?cid=3240772425868935671
Please do emoji-rsvp using 🙋, so I can relay numbers.
*Mapping the Taiwanese g0v Movement: A Canadian Civic Tech Perspective*
📅 *Date:* Fri, Dec. 14 @ 10:00-11:30
:round_pushpin: *Location:* Room 202, Taiwan Foundation for Democracy https://maps.google.com/?cid=3240772425868935671
Please do emoji-rsvp using 🙋, so I can relay numbers.
@null
15:42:34
Also, I will share an alpha version of the report before tomorrow morning, but there's *no need to review*. With that said, I'm very eager for feedback over the next few weeks! (Though a presentation is this week, I plan to revise it over the next month or so before publishing a v1. :)
@null
16:24:29
That can be source, but it is converted to struct data, and then conforms to the format already defined in foreign countries.
@null
17:14:34
Speaking of citizen science and technology awards, the following three projects, which is more fun? - 1️⃣ The media read CC0 textbooks and test papers, and the online test scores are sent to the chicken chops - 2️⃣ Open government appraisal report (in the district of the administrative district or unit of the school), the first place to send Limin or students to eat Chicken Steak - 3️⃣ Online bills review tools one by one, come to Komatsu to eat chicken chops
@null
2018-12-13 01:54:55
@mrorz @caasi The fourth is?
@null
2018-12-13 07:50:02
It’s an off-by-one smile.
@null
21:22:06
Hi, ocf (I) can help coordinate the open source of i-voting to get the contract that is outsourced to the manufacturer, which can speed up the evaluation strategy.
2018-12-13
Francucci
07:40:45
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@null
11:20:17
Wikidata should be considered struct data, but it is not sure whether there is "conform to the format already defined by foreign countries". If not, it may be feasible to set a transfer output.
@null
11:29:43
Note that details for tomorrow's daytime presentation at Taiwan Foundation for Democracy, are also in this thread :)
@null
12:18:58
I remember that EveryPolitician has switched from wikidata to a common format http://everypolitician.org/
patcon
2018-12-13 13:49:18
yep, true say. and that common format was popolo, too!
(unless i misunderstood the translation, and this is what you were already saying 🙂 )
(unless i misunderstood the translation, and this is what you were already saying 🙂 )
patcon
13:49:18
yep, true say. and that common format was popolo, too!
(unless i misunderstood the translation, and this is what you were already saying 🙂 )
(unless i misunderstood the translation, and this is what you were already saying 🙂 )
@null
16:31:55
Hi, ocf (I) has helped to coordinate the open source of i-voting. Can I get the contract that is outsourced to the manufacturer first, which can speed up the evaluation strategy?
Someone (across chat bridge)
22:09:47
File from sing5hong5 (general@g0vtw)with comment: 我有問新酷音ê作者,伊ê意見~
Someone (across chat bridge)
22:10:12
File from sing5hong5 (general@g0vtw)
2018-12-14
@null
11:48:00
I fixed an issue source code how to submit a pull request or a new branch ←_←
@null
2018-12-14 12:09:08
Which project? Usually sent by PR, but not every project is sent to the main branch, see if the project has contributed?
@null
2018-12-14 13:11:12
Itaigi project, I glanced at the hackpad and did not see how to submit -
@null
2018-12-14 13:12:37
You can go to the #itaigi channel and ask!
@null
2018-12-14 13:13:01
Oh, ok.
@null
12:09:08
Which project? Usually sent by PR, but not every project is sent to the main branch, see if the project has contributed?
@null
14:47:56
Topics include ties to *social physics, group consensus, feminine leadership tactics, and network science.*
sunthesi
15:44:55
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@null
17:23:23
@chihao https://www.facebook.com/congress.jason/photos/a.1688023418076295/2224360507775914/
@null
17:25:15
The key point is to delete the responsibility before exempting, and other judicial decisions, increase administrative discretion
@null
17:26:59
For example, I can report the infringement of the article of Wocao, and then report within 10 days, the platform must be removed first, otherwise the platform will bear the joint responsibility
@null
17:32:38
Then if I criticize the anti-epidemic policy of the Welfare Department, according to 19-1 -5, the Welfare Department can force the platform operators to delete my comments within 24 hours. When I finish the case with the Weifu Department, if I win, the platform can recover me. Article, otherwise the platform has to bear joint responsibility
@null
17:33:59
But if you take a look at the message below, no one will look carefully at the content of the case. How terrible is it?
@null
17:37:28
Someone has never seen 19-1 and started to take the verbatim escorting. Maybe even 15-2 is what I asked for, but I dare to say that I can’t listen to the facts that others told you. I think so. The discussion is extremely unhealthy. Do you think I am really that kind of person?
@null
17:39:06
Let me first confirm that the above is not the version that has been sent to the Legislative Yuan, but the version that has not been submitted yet.
@null
17:39:17
To be honest, from the Internet all day, the government wants to control the Internet is not a day or two, but DPP really does not worry, he made a sword to let KMT cut to DPP?
@null
17:40:52
The government seems to deny that there is a draft amendment on the photo. "Luo Bingcheng said that the law of the law is being negotiated by the legislature and has not been passed by the third reading. The Executive Yuan cannot propose a law on the bill that has not been passed on the third reading. The government respects the outcome of the Legislative Yuan review. Will withdraw the Law of Law." https://www.rti.org.tw/news/view/id/2005081
@null
17:41:25
This approach is a bit like increasing control over the platform side, but they don't want the article to appear. The speed of the article only needs to be much higher than the inspection speed. He still can't prevent it, but it will affect the people who speak normally... It seems that the practice is not very effective
@null
17:42:15
In fact, the version of the second reading of the committee (I remember this?) is this https://www.ey.gov.tw/Page/AE106A22FAE592FD/4f66d263-6c12-499c-b716-3e0483957aab
@null
17:45:24
Most of the messages are in closed groups. This type of reporting may not be effective, or it may force these messages to enter a more closed world (?)
@null
17:46:21
Knowing whether the violation is a user report, an administrative guide, or a court decision.
@null
17:47:04
The right side of the 15 articles published by the Executive Yuan is written as follows: > or after knowing that the act or information is > illegal (administrative punishment or referee), that is, taking appropriate measures to prevent damage from continuing to expand, then > in the first paragraph, it is determined not to Negative liability.
@null
17:51:43
That's right, but what you posted is the explanation on the right. If it's true, why not write it in the legal text? I think it is necessary to keep the fuzzy zone so that the executive power can be expanded in the future.
@null
17:54:25
In short, I personally care about whether someone will run and say that the controversial remarks on the Cofacts platform call me off the shelf. However, Cofacts should be exempt from the 14 automation clauses, so it should be fine.
@null
18:08:19
No, 14-2 means exemption like ISP or cache, cofact/ICP should be 15-2, you still have to delete it first.
@null
18:08:51
I have a discussion with an ICP industry, they are also very scared (?) want to find someone to block this bill
@null
22:35:02
Article 15 of the "Digital Communication Communication Law" of China does refer to Article 14 of the EU Electronic Commerce Directive and Article 10 of the German Electronic Media Act, adopting the "knowing the removal mode"; but the 16th article of the Chinese draft The notice is removed, and no such clause can be found regardless of the EU e-commerce directive or the German electronic media law. However, the reason for the revision of the law actually wrote "...to the spirit of the Manila Intermediary Responsibility Principles and the provisions of the German Electronic Media Law." "
@null
2018-12-14 23:09:16
The keyword in the 16th draft is 'one'. The information transmitted by the first safe harbor is initiated or requested by the user, and the information on the infringement exemption is not changed when the user accesses the information. .`. In the case where the middleman has the right to participate in the revision, it is necessary to discuss the second safe harbor.
@null
23:09:16
The keyword in the 16th draft is 'one'. The information transmitted by the first safe harbor is initiated or requested by the user, and the information on the infringement exemption is not changed when the user accesses the information. .`. In the case where the middleman has the right to participate in the revision, it is necessary to discuss the second safe harbor.
2018-12-15
clkao
12:24:43
hello from canada 🇨🇦
@null
2018-12-15 15:43:23
@patcon thread sync is broken?
Someone (across chat bridge)
2018-12-16 06:33:36
File from kirstenliu (general@g0vtw)with comment: Here are some photo mix if anyone is interested!
patcon
2018-12-16 11:02:08
@clkao Re: thread sync. Should be working, but cache that links them is not persistent yet, so it "forgets" how to thread when app restarts :) there's a code spike for addressing it, but needs work: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/541
arti
15:35:39
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wataru
15:39:31
Thank you for your presentation today
!
Someone (across chat bridge)
2018-12-16 06:34:07
File from kirstenliu (general@g0vtw)
Someone (across chat bridge)
2018-12-16 06:34:19
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Someone (across chat bridge)
2018-12-16 06:34:29
File from kirstenliu (general@g0vtw)
lukec
16:27:28
Hello g0v! I heard clkao talk tonight and share some of your stories and successes. I continue to be so impressed and inspired by your work. 🙏
I made a thread here to share some of my understandings from g0v from my perspective in Vancouver: https://twitter.com/lukec/status/1073843847854051329
I made a thread here to share some of my understandings from g0v from my perspective in Vancouver: https://twitter.com/lukec/status/1073843847854051329
2018-12-16
@null
00:26:06
Tomorrow there is g0v summit. The film review is loose. Welcome to https://g0v-summit2018.kktix.cc/events/6f8d6d30?fbclid=IwAR3U_95okKWMCh9xgdVJ5L_ykNJZ-5TxFU6ZoQhgPhBD5bk8flJ4zhsqUDk
g0v-summit2018.kktix.cc
錯過了g0v summit 2018 嗎?想聽的 talk 衝堂了嗎?工作人員太忙了嗎? 來來來,通通來補課!![]()
Someone (across chat bridge)
06:33:36
File from kirstenliu (general@g0vtw)with comment: Here are some photo mix if anyone is interested!
Someone (across chat bridge)
06:34:07
File from kirstenliu (general@g0vtw)
patcon
11:02:08
@clkao Re: thread sync. Should be working, but cache that links them is not persistent yet, so it "forgets" how to thread when app restarts :) there's a code spike for addressing it, but needs work: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/541
GitHub
So that between Slack instance, we can preserve threading (#529) and send emojis (#526) with more consistent behaviour :) Thoughts? I could be pretty simple, and totally optional for people who cho...
@null
13:47:21
<system> file IMG_20181216_134628.jpg too big to download (1699227 > allowed size: 1000000)
@null
13:47:21
For the friend who wants to participate in the review, the entrance is on the other side.
Someone (across chat bridge)
14:13:00
File from Michael_li (general@g0vtw)with comment: 補課松開場啦!
@null
19:40:22
I heard that the role of @au is suspected to have appeared in the previous episode of the Governor’s Island.
2018-12-17
nickkauf
08:01:08
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nickkauf
08:02:30
Hi I'm Nick, captain of Open Maine a Code for America Brigade. been joining the code for japan international exchange calls and thinking about doing some translation w/ them. interested in maybe coming to g0v summit and code for japan summit next year
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nickkauf
08:03:17
www.twitter.com/open_maine our group is interested in open civic hardware, transit, campaign tech, citizen science, and historical civic tech
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patcon
2018-12-18 03:59:02
@nkauf87 Oooooo! What sort of civic hardware? I know that betacityYEG in western Canada did fun hardware stuff.
@null
2018-12-18 05:57:20
Back in 2012 mostly stuff like open vehicle tracker, open transit displays, diy book scanners( a maine librarian made one with a lobster trap), and some citizen science hardware
@null
2018-12-18 05:57:33
Code for miami is also doing a lot with hardware lately
@null
2018-12-18 05:58:11
When our bus tracking data came out some folks tried to make a voice box to announce the arrivals audibly.
patcon
2018-12-18 13:57:03
Haha that all sounds so amazing, nick! Way ahead of us in toronto on hardware. Re: citizen science hardware. Is that ongoing? And particularly if so, curious if those involved had opportunity to be wired into publiclab.org community?
nickkauf
2018-12-19 22:22:21
Yes someone was once although our citizenscience stuff is non-existent since they left
@null
10:55:23
Hi, everyone can start the topic in the next issue, and vote with the same emoji. 🇺🇸 New York to establish an open source of community services: flag-ph: cheaper than big data systems, the Philippines will use blockchain management procurement from the layman to the leader, how to establish a number of governments in France?拯救 See the details of saving lives through global medical open data: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gLLi-9Zt1WzblH6yiaijzeo02s4vdd3XEeA4W4-CDvs/edit# ____ From June onwards, the Open Cultural Foundation (OCF) project g0v .news and "World" magazine in the name of "g0v column", from the weekly newspaper's news library, select the subject matter worth reporting to write a compilation, published every two weeks. Based on g0v's consistent spirit of open collaboration, the writing process will be open to community members to participate and comment. We will let the community select the title to be published in this checklist two weeks before the manuscript is published. Then Ting Yan and Guan Ting will be responsible for writing the draft, and the first draft will also open the community to express their opinions, and then submit it to the editor for the final Integration.
@null
16:40:21
Is @deartotoro still using Paste this slack app~? We want to add Rollbar (error logging), but the Slack app is full of QQ.
2018-12-18
patcon
03:59:02
@nkauf87 Oooooo! What sort of civic hardware? I know that betacityYEG in western Canada did fun hardware stuff.
patcon
04:00:33
Beta City YEG
Inside one public piano in YEG was placed a Raspberry Pi physical computing device which recorded music as passers-by played.
@null
05:57:20
Back in 2012 mostly stuff like open vehicle tracker, open transit displays, diy book scanners( a maine librarian made one with a lobster trap), and some citizen science hardware
@null
05:58:11
When our bus tracking data came out some folks tried to make a voice box to announce the arrivals audibly.
@null
09:15:47
I am a proprietary figure, a girlfriend letter "Although it is an IT genius boy of example, the name on SNS is sing." The reason why island cultivation is in Taipei is because there are rumors of that boy. Although he seems to have worked as a genius programmer while 14 years old, he seems to have been marked by the police, yet he is a mysterious boy who nobody knows his true face yet. ---- "雖 然 是 是 一个 IT IT genius momentary example, ___ ___ ___ 0 Sing. ___ ___ 0 ___ ___ 0 ___ ___ 0 Romantic Other 14 Years Old 時 乎 是 一 一 genius Extraductor, however, 他 他 乎 乎 乎 被 被 警 警 警 警 標 標,,,, Other,
@null
10:20:35
<Https://www.facebook.com/g0vairmap/posts/540618796454929> The information provided by the manufacturer cannot be accessed (sigh)
patcon
13:57:03
Haha that all sounds so amazing, nick! Way ahead of us in toronto on hardware. Re: citizen science hardware. Is that ongoing? And particularly if so, curious if those involved had opportunity to be wired into publiclab.org community?
@null
16:59:23
@mrorz Although the government denied that there was a version proposed, I later figured out that the administrative unit and a political commissar should help to coordinate the draft amendment, but only to the legislator to negotiate (test water temperature?), the fire is big. I denied it first, but I didn’t lie, because at this stage, the government can’t
@null
2018-12-18 17:00:21
Yes, so 1. "This revision does not include the number-pass method" is true. 2. "Looking for platform operators" and "discussing the latest platform-related specifications" is also true.
@null
2018-12-18 17:00:55
what
@null
2018-12-18 17:01:20
So is the version containing 19-1 ~ 19-4, is it approved by the legislator?
@null
2018-12-18 17:01:38
I thought that even the Executive Yuan did not even have it?
@null
2018-12-18 17:12:09
The Executive Yuan version was proposed last year. Now, in the consultation of the party and the masses, according to the regulations, it is no longer possible to propose a law revision. However, I feel that: "The government has no plans to propose a new law." => Lying "Looking for platform operators" "Discussing the latest Platform-related specifications" => Yes, the government should have helped to draft this draft, but the plan is to be negotiated by the party (legislator)
@null
2018-12-19 10:31:41
Hmm is so
@null
17:00:21
Yes, so 1. "This revision does not include the number-pass method" is true. 2. "Looking for platform operators" and "discussing the latest platform-related specifications" is also true.
@null
17:12:09
The Executive Yuan version was proposed last year. Now, in the consultation of the party and the masses, according to the regulations, it is no longer possible to propose a law revision. However, I feel that: "The government has no plans to propose a new law." => Lying "Looking for platform operators" "Discussing the latest Platform-related specifications" => Yes, the government should have helped to draft this draft, but the plan is to be negotiated by the party (legislator)
@null
21:26:07
Permalink of @ronnywang company.g0v seems to be broken
@null
2018-12-18 21:26:56
Does it refer to the "original data" link above?
@null
2018-12-18 21:32:34
Yeah, new edition
@null
2018-12-18 21:32:42
Old version ok
@null
2018-12-18 21:33:07
The new version seems to be only available to companies, and the business name seems to fail, because the website of the firm has other information besides the editor.
@null
2018-12-18 21:33:16
Which one of you can't even connect?
@null
2018-12-18 21:38:46
Ok, it seems to be the new website of the business division. The bug XD may be found for the first time without populate cache.
@null
21:33:07
The new version seems to be only available to companies, and the business name seems to fail, because the website of the firm has other information besides the editor.
@null
21:38:46
Ok, it seems to be the new website of the business division. The bug XD may be found for the first time without populate cache.
2018-12-19
nickkauf
22:22:21
Yes someone was once although our citizenscience stuff is non-existent since they left
- 👌1
2018-12-20
@null
03:56:53
Hello~ Recently finished the second article on g0v, mainly taking the digitalization of political contributions as an example to talk about how the materials mobilize the masses and the concept of “politicization of interest”. This article compares "anthropology". It is expected to be submitted in early January (the comments before submission will be revised, and the comments after submission will be included in the submission process), but the article will continue to be placed in this hackfoldr for your reference comments. P/S Sorry again, I am still writing in English🙏 https://beta.hackfoldr.org/mglee-dissertation/https%253A%252F%252Fdocs.google.com%252Fdocument%252Fd%252F1xOu1_fu_Vz_zQ0neLNbTjkZQGoYlozuqk1byVrOQGbM%252Fedit%2523
@null
2018-12-20 12:44:13
Have you, and then you can tell me about it? LOL
@null
2018-12-20 13:10:03
English is really envious* wrong*
@null
2018-12-20 13:41:56
Wow, anthropology has done such a close study: thumbsup:
itsmisscs
2018-12-22 05:30:32
Oooo I will take a look at this over the weekend @mglee!
2018-12-21
@null
14:29:50
@hcchien Of course~ I will share it with you after the publication, but it may be a year later based on experience.
@null
15:06:18
I would like to ask if the application link of g0v does not seem to go in http://join.g0v.today/
@null
15:06:58
Where did you see the join.g0v.today URL?
@null
2018-12-21 15:08:07
Sorry, I read the wrong Orz.
@null
2018-12-21 15:08:23
You are not mistaken because the end of .today is the old URL.
@null
2018-12-21 15:08:41
I want to say where else I have written the old URL, and I changed it to a new one.
@null
2018-12-21 15:08:55
Here, the original is https://g0v.hackpad.tw/ep/pad/static/h
@null
2018-12-21 15:09:44
Thanks, I changed him.
@null
2018-12-21 15:18:37
Yeah, where did you find this page?
@null
2018-12-21 15:18:55
google XD
@null
2018-12-21 15:20:23
喔喔XDD
nany
15:25:06
The Verge
This morning, many Slack users with ties to Iran discovered their accounts had been abruptly deactivated![]()
itsmisscs
2018-12-22 05:32:35
😡 this plus the fact that we, as a community, no longer have a record of our chat logs prompts me to raise a call for g0v to consider riot or rocket open source chat alternatives
@null
2018-12-22 14:43:16
i think @kjcl is looking at zulips
@null
2018-12-22 14:44:41
Hi! http://G0v.zulipchat.com has an archive of all of our messages from beginnnig until November. You can test it by going to the zulip and clicking forgot password and using the email you log into g0v slack with.
@null
2018-12-22 14:45:04
It is free and they have generously provided us with an open source plan.
@null
2018-12-22 14:45:13
If you have any questions please let me know.
@null
2018-12-22 14:46:03
This slack has a #zulip channel where I am updating people on zulip progress. Ideally we need a matterbridge between zulip and g0v slack but I am busy moving to the US righ now.
2018-12-22
Joe K
02:30:14
Maybe of interest: Sam Ford and I published a piece in Slate about our Pol.is-powered Bowling Green Civic Assembly https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/12/political-polarization-bowling-green-study-kentucky-immigration.html
Slate Magazine
Polarization is not just an observed fact but also a political agenda that needs to be resisted.![]()
itsmisscs
05:30:32
Oooo I will take a look at this over the weekend @mglee!
itsmisscs
05:32:35
😡 this plus the fact that we, as a community, no longer have a record of our chat logs prompts me to raise a call for g0v to consider riot or rocket open source chat alternatives
@null
14:44:41
Hi! http://G0v.zulipchat.com has an archive of all of our messages from beginnnig until November. You can test it by going to the zulip and clicking forgot password and using the email you log into g0v slack with.
@null
21:39:46
@jackymaxj Some of us are experiencing connection issues to http://g0v.hackmd.io. Is it just our Internet connection or are there issues at hackmd?
@null
2018-12-22 22:02:05
since http://g0v.hackmd.io is a standalone instance other than http://hackmd.io, we need to investigate separately.
where do you guys visit http://g0v.hackmd.io?
where do you guys visit http://g0v.hackmd.io?
@null
2018-12-22 22:02:30
Where? We were using this doc specifically https://g0v.hackmd.io/WMNDVxhjTki2obtP9ncJrw?both
@null
2018-12-22 22:02:46
There were ppl from TW, UK, JP
@null
2018-12-22 22:07:25
I can see that VM CPU exceed limits, would try to tweak it.
@null
2018-12-22 22:21:48
Thanks for looking into that :)
@null
2018-12-23 05:37:56
Could you explain more about what the connection issues look like?
@null
22:02:05
since http://g0v.hackmd.io is a standalone instance other than http://hackmd.io, we need to investigate separately.
where do you guys visit http://g0v.hackmd.io?
where do you guys visit http://g0v.hackmd.io?
@null
22:02:30
Where? We were using this doc specifically https://g0v.hackmd.io/WMNDVxhjTki2obtP9ncJrw?both
2018-12-23
@null
13:51:46
(English in below) Add Oil Team The squad will put "The tyranny is over! If you want" on the wall of the politician, make a greeting card from Hong Kong, invite you to give the blessings and support it represents to live. Friends in a country that is not democratic enough, is not free enough, and does not respect human rights. On Christmas Eve 1969, John Lennon and Yoko Ono displayed the same message on a large advertising board in 12 cities around the world: WAR IS OVER! If you want it, these 12 cities, including Hong Kong. In 2014, a wall at the Hong Kong Government Headquarters was reshaped into a "continuous wall", which is a tribute to John and Yoko. We changed the WAR to TYRANNY, "renewed" the message 50 years ago and sent it to people around the world who are trying to stop the world from collapsing. Near the wall is the beginning of the Hong Kong occupation movement. Four years later, the city is still working hard, just like the citizens of other countries in the world. Download and export this e-card: http://addoilteam.hk/card/ Add Oil Team projected 'Tyranny is Over! if you want it' onto a wall of the Hong Kong Central Government Complex and produced this e-card. We invite you to send it and the solidarity to friends who are living in countries that are not respecting human rights enough, not most important and not enough enough. December 1969, John Lennon and Yoko Ono rented large billboards from 12 cities around the world to Display the message : WAR IS OVER! IF YOU WANT IT, Happy Christmas from John & Yoko. Hong Kong was one of the cities. As a concrete wall of the Hong Kong Central Government Complex has been renamed 'Lennon Wall' since2014, we come Up with the idea of 'updating' John and Yoko's intervention at the site where we also started the 'Add Oil Machine' project. We replaced WAR with TYRANNY, and projected the message onto this wall of the Hong Kong Central Government Complex, the occupy Four years on, citizens fr Om the city are still fighting for what they believe in – just like citizens from other parts of the world. Download and send the e-card: http://addoilteam.hk/card/ #tyrannyisover
2018-12-24
@null
00:44:20
It seems that the way to take the prize in 100 points is feasible. https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PublicIssue/M.1545465576.A.EFB.html
@null
01:17:57
Taiwan, South Korea and Japan hackathon opened their first meeting last night to discuss possible forms. The meeting is recorded at https://g0v.hackmd.io/WMNDVxhjTki2obtP9ncJrw?view
@null
01:18:36
Those interested in preparing together can join the Telegram group discussion https://t.me/joinchat/A0WfxxcYefz5X6eVxgBpFQ
@null
01:19:16
There is also #tw-kr-jp-hackathons channel, but there is currently no synchronization on both sides.
@null
01:24:19
(that is, the Okinawa hackathon that was said before)
@null
2018-12-24 12:27:46
I feel that I have to participate in lol in order to go to Okinawa.
@null
12:14:02
Ha~ I am one of the main corrective actions of this action~ I want to ask for help. After I put this message, many people have written back to have their willingness to work around their homes and spread them all over Taiwan. I would like to say that if there is a platform like a message board, you can stick to each other's area, and then if there is a major correction in the area, you can see the Facebook and LINE of other people in the area to contact, this should be very helpful. I don't know if there are any ideas or procedures that are closer to this.
@null
2018-12-24 12:14:47
@wellsonjain
@null
2018-12-24 12:17:07
Wow, I still want to say that I want to throw a kick in the batch kick, even I have it here!!!!
@null
2018-12-24 12:18:21
Haha, if you want to respond, you can talk to me directly or PM me~
@null
2018-12-24 12:21:24
The minimum required function, I think this way: The registration process will be filled with "name or title", "contact", "location", "main correction or participation (or donation, still considering)" and then register the person who corrects the problem The contact method with the person who registered the registration will give each other the other way. The easiest way is to email the notification.
@null
2018-12-24 12:21:51
It feels a bit like a marriage equal rights bee & affirmative dialogue volunteers operating mode marriage equal rights platform before the election is to use Facebook group 揪人 + google spreadsheet registration information in the management of the 唷, then visualized this page to organize the group information, in fact Also directly connected to google spreadsheet: https://g0v.github.io/for-marriage-equality/
@null
2018-12-24 12:22:28
At that time, the table length was https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/131ImXHRXARx8j8t9esNCJhrLUfZQG347L1k3GsJ1m1Q/edit?ts=5bf0bd8f#gid=0 (data is now cleared of QQ)
@null
2018-12-24 12:23:20
Oh, yes, I think of the righteous little bee, maybe like that form.
@null
2018-12-24 12:25:45
The problems encountered by the big platform are basically not technical problems, but there is no relationship between the no-open group and the no-one group. This has a great relationship with the member structure (office workers). After the election, everyone’s sense of crisis was provoked, maybe the motivation will be different.
@null
2018-12-24 13:27:44
The motivation now should be very strong. I am surprised to see that the article is echoing~
@null
12:17:07
Wow, I still want to say that I want to throw a kick in the batch kick, even I have it here!!!!
@null
12:21:24
The minimum required function, I think this way: The registration process will be filled with "name or title", "contact", "location", "main correction or participation (or donation, still considering)" and then register the person who corrects the problem The contact method with the person who registered the registration will give each other the other way. The easiest way is to email the notification.
@null
12:21:51
It feels a bit like a marriage equal rights bee & affirmative dialogue volunteers operating mode marriage equal rights platform before the election is to use Facebook group 揪人 + google spreadsheet registration information in the management of the 唷, then visualized this page to organize the group information, in fact Also directly connected to google spreadsheet: https://g0v.github.io/for-marriage-equality/
@null
12:22:28
At that time, the table length was https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/131ImXHRXARx8j8t9esNCJhrLUfZQG347L1k3GsJ1m1Q/edit?ts=5bf0bd8f#gid=0 (data is now cleared of QQ)
@null
12:25:45
The problems encountered by the big platform are basically not technical problems, but there is no relationship between the no-open group and the no-one group. This has a great relationship with the member structure (office workers). After the election, everyone’s sense of crisis was provoked, maybe the motivation will be different.
@null
13:27:44
The motivation now should be very strong. I am surprised to see that the article is echoing~
@null
21:54:47
@mrorz This table structure, which looks like a web page, makes me feel that the need for volunteer integration during the "disaster" can be used with this tool.
2018-12-25
@null
22:30:42
I want to plan to make it online, and then send it directly to the e-mail... I still want to prepare the textbook. Maybe you can come online and offline.
Someone (across chat bridge)
22:58:29
File from bess (general@g0vtw)with comment: 烏牛欄大護法!
@null
23:09:26
The Shining Orchestra seems to have refused entry by the Chinese Hong Kong government.
@null
2018-12-26 12:58:49
According to the "General Employment Policy" of the Immigration Department of Hong Kong, applicants who have "special skills, knowledge or experience that are needed in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and lack" have the knowledge or experience of voting for the leaders of the country. Hong Kong There is absolutely no one in person.
@null
2018-12-26 15:38:53
Online concert ~ online concert ~~ (passer A) break through the firewall ~ all the way to the mainland to go ~ ~ ~ 喔喔喔 ~ ~
2018-12-26
@null
06:24:23
香港獨立媒體網
題為編輯所擬。 編按:公開表明支持台獨的台灣立法委員,以閃靈樂團成員身份來港參與何韻詩演唱會被香港入境處拒絕批出簽證。 根據香港入境處的《一般就業政策》,「具備香港特別行政區所需而又缺乏的特別技能、知識或經驗」的申請人,在滿足其他條件(包括其「從事的工作 ... 不能輕易覓得本地人擔任」)後,可申請來港工作。[1] 但好明顯入境處就無睇過Epoch Group Ltd v Director of Immigration [2011] 3 HKLRD H2案。 時任原訟法庭法官張舉能在該案中指出[2],通常用以審批工作簽證的《一般就業政策》並.不.適.用.於[3]有意到訪香港進行短時間表演的演藝團體。 換言之,就這類團體的成員的工作簽證申請而言,他們是否「具備香港所需而又缺乏的特別技能、知識或經驗 (special skills, knowledge or experience of value to and not readily available in Hong Kong)」,或他們的工作能否「輕易覓得本地人擔任(readily taken up by the local work force)」,已非入境處可以合法地納入的考慮[4],否則香港永遠也有本地人才,根本不可能舉辦任何國際性的文化交流活動[5]。 相反地,入境處在決定是否批准簽證申請時,法律上真正須要考慮並給予極大比重的因素,其實是[6]: 1)外地團體到香港進行文化或藝術交流活動對社會的重大價值; 2)到訪演藝團體的成員不是長期來港「搶人工作」,而是特地為了參加文化或藝術交流活動,短時間內就會離開香港; 3)入境處尤其必須以「演藝團體是不可分割的個體」為基礎考慮簽證申請,若對個別成員作區別對待,在法律上即屬不合理(外地著名的演藝團體大概也不會願意接受這種只有個別成員獲准出席的無理邀請[7])。 根據入境處的信件,他們決定拒絕簽證申請,是因為認為申請者無法滿足上述已被法庭裁定為不相關的標準,但從無考慮法律上真正有關、並支持批出簽證的因素,即使背後沒有政治動機,亦無疑是行政法意義下一個越權、非法的決定。 [1] 如參見保安局局長於十月二十四日在立法會會議上就梁繼昌議員的提問所作的書面答覆 [2] 入境處處長當時亦確認他們實際上不會強行應用《一般就業政策》來處理此類簽證申請:參見第45段。 [3] 第42段('ill-suited')。 [4] 參見第43-44、50、52、60、62、68段。 [5] 參見第57段。 [6] 參見第49-50、57、62、64段。 [7] 參見第54段。 (English version) Under the Director of immigration's General Employment Policy, '[a]pplicants who possess special skills, knowledge or experience of value to and not readily available in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) may apply to come to work in the HKSAR', if they can satisfy the Direcotor that, amongst other conditions, the job concerned 'cannot be readily taken up by the local work force'.[1] The Policy's application in the present case, however, is so completely at odds with Epoch Group Ltd v Director of Immigration [2011] 3 HKLRD H2. There, Andrew Cheung J (as Cheung PJ then was) was clear[2] that the General Employment Policy, as otherwise usually applies to work visa applications, was 'ILL-SUITED to deal with applications for entry by members of a travelling performing group to perform in Hong Kong for a short duration only'[3]. In other words, in respect of applications by members of such a group, the questions whether they 'possess special skills, knowledge or experience of value to and not readily available in Hong Kong', or whether the job or tasks they propose to perform can be 'readily taken up by the local work force', are matters irrelevant to the Director's inquiry [4], for otherwise the happy wealth of local talent could ironically have the absurd effect of preventing the possibility of any international cultural events in the first place[5]. By contrast, in determining whether to allow such an application for a work visa, what the Director must take into account, and give substantial weight to, are the following factors[6]: 1) the unmistakable value of international cultural and artistic exchanges and activities to (the) society (of Hong Kong); 2) members of such a travelling performing group do not seek to remain in Hong Kong permanently, and therefore are unlikely to significantly (if at all) jeopardise the job opportunities of local workers; rather they are seeking entry for the specific purpose of attending international cultural and artistic exchanges and activities, for a short period of time after which they are expected to leave the city; 3) in particular, the Direct must consider the visa applications bearing in mind that a performing group is an inalienable entity, each member being integral to the group; discrimination against individual members is liable to be found unreasonable (and chances are that travelling performing groups of any reputation would not be prepared to accept invitations unreasonably extended only to certain of their members but not the others[7])。 The reason for refusing the visa application, as stated in the Director's letter, is that the applicant did not meet the very irrelevant criteria which, as shown, have been judicially deprecated insofar as they were applied to a travelling performing group, in circumstances indistinguishable from those in the instant case. On the other hand, the Director never gave any consideration at all to the relevant factors (all pointing to a favourable determination of the application) which he, in law, must consider. It follows that, even stripped of its political overtones, the Director's decision is one that is ultra vires and illegal according to the ordinary principles of administrative law. [1] See eg the written reply by the Secretary for Security in the Legislative Council on 24 October 2018 to the Hon Kenneth Leung: <https://www.info.gov.hk/>…/gen…/201810/24/P2018102400458.htm… [2] And the Director of Immigration conceded as much at the time, that it had never been his practice to rigidly apply the Policy to travelling performing groups of this sort: see para 45. [3] At para 42 (emphasis added). [4] At paras 43-44、50、52、60、62、68. [5] See para 57. [6] See paras 49-50、57、62、64. [7] See para 54.![]()
@null
12:58:49
According to the "General Employment Policy" of the Immigration Department of Hong Kong, applicants who have "special skills, knowledge or experience that are needed in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and lack" have the knowledge or experience of voting for the leaders of the country. Hong Kong There is absolutely no one in person.
@null
13:38:39
Um, but many elders have difficulty adapting to new online tools. If it is for elders, it is hard to break through online. I have the platform to invite you to collect this kind of question library material, and let the people who want to act to export these question banks to contact the elders, but I should not have time to do this XD.
@null
15:38:53
Online concert ~ online concert ~~ (passer A) break through the firewall ~ all the way to the mainland to go ~ ~ ~ 喔喔喔 ~ ~
@null
15:41:39
Posted on my Facebook wall, by the way, I really like coldplay to quote the big dictator's speech in "A Head of Full Dreams". (I don't know if I can also make this speech show up on the e-card)? <Https://www.facebook.com/renewangsl/posts/10157165914997018>
2018-12-27
@null
10:01:41
@ronnywang @clkao Our g0v zero-time smuggling project is preparing to apply for the g0v.tw domain, but there is a question that if the domains in g0v.josn are changed afterwards, will they automatically update the DNS record? Need to ask the administrator to manually update it? Mainly because our engineers hope to set up a sub-domain (such as api, list) according to the needs, but it may not be very certain after the change.
@null
10:03:24
No, you need to change the domain settings later or send an issue or PR at https://github.com/g0v/domain and ask the domain team members for assistance. The domain setting is not related to g0v.json. Just look at the settings in https://github.com/g0v/domain. Subdomain is no problem
@null
10:09:50
G0v.json is another project. I hope that through most of the repositories, there is g0v.json, a common specification g0v project description. This makes it easy to integrate g0v related projects for everyone to see.
@null
10:10:59
The g0v community's projects are scattered all over the place, and may not be placed under https://github.com/g0v, so I want to use g0v.json as the identification of the g0v community project.
2018-12-28
@null
00:33:09
"The OPEN Government Data Act requires US federal government agencies to release public information on the Internet in an open and machine-readable format for the outside world under the premise of protecting privacy and national security." https ://www.ithome.com.tw/news/127857 <> Cheng Xia's article - Legal Trends and Developments in Open Government Materials Explore http://lucien.cc/20161219
@null
02:25:09
20181227 (Newsletter) National Development Committee: "Smart Government Planning" Report https://www.slideshare.net/OpenMic1/20181227-126795869 Lai Qingde: Digital Identity Identification Certificate is to be fully issued in 2020 https://www.cna.com. Tw/news/firstnews/201812270155.aspx
@null
17:41:09
Today I changed the http://g0v.tw and cut off some old things on the front page: youtube, calendar, blog, and then change the menu bar.
@null
17:42:15
But the chat record is currently blank, I don’t know where it broke, so I’m asking for support QQ.
@null
17:44:09
Because timid plus long time did not move github, so I am first / /, did not delete directly
@null
17:57:45
Ah, Other logs. To be replaced by ronny's archive, slackarchive has stopped operating.
Someone (across chat bridge)
17:59:11
File from mrorz (general@g0vtw)with comment: 我這裡看 log 還在唷
@null
18:00:29
However, "Other Records" should be replaced by https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw/
@null
2018-12-28 18:01:17
committed just now
@null
21:48:37
Add back to the "How to Participate" in the menu bar, which can be edited here: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/blob/master/md/zh-tw/join/tools.md
2018-12-29
gj
00:42:07
Hello guys! anyone attending Tictec in Paris next March?
https://tictec.mysociety.org/2019#register
https://tictec.mysociety.org/2019#register
patcon
2019-01-03 14:31:51
@gj re: tictec. Thinking about going! Better chances if I get my act together and propose a session :)
Great! hope we can meet there again! did you get back to 🇨🇦?
patcon
2019-01-05 07:34:31
@gj yep! hanging at a cafe in Toronto at present moment 🙂
@null
08:41:14
Will hackpad.tw be in a state that cannot be edited now? Just updated some data and changed the page to find that those editors are not saved to T_T.
@null
12:29:06
Lafudoci_: It seems that there is no such situation now? I just watched the system and there was no abnormal message. Will it be that your network in Japan has an unstable state?
@null
14:35:07
Ronnywang, I found that there seems to be no login relationship, but I don't know why I forgot my password. The email link Firefox and Chrome can't open. I can use IE to log in. But after I change it, I can't log in.
@null
14:39:27
"Oops! A server error occured. It's been logged." will appear when changing the password. Then it is the login status, but you can't log in again with the new password after logging out or changing the browser.
@null
20:48:09
Dear g0v predecessors: I just posted an article in the Facebook community, mainly want to request to start the news helper service again https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2433789813301362&set=g.387816094628136&type=1&theater&ifg= 1
2018-12-30
@null
13:49:28
I just returned to FB, and the full text is posted. I will decide to turn off the news helper. As stated in the previous statement, several factors are currently difficult for the news helper: 1. Misleading message: In the past, the interface of the news helper only entered the fields for the face connection and the reason for the face, but the misleading message looks a lot. The input interface is too simple. In the end, it is easy to become a two-party editorial battle to see who has more money to go to the other party. The message is marked as wrong, rather than really discussing where the message is not clearly stated or wrong. This cofacts do a lot better. 2. The news helper is built on the chrome extension. Now I still use cd to see chrome. It is a small number of chrome extensions. In fact, it has no influence. From the recent cofacts, the emergence of Meiyuyu has led to many discussions. I think that the most important thing to do as a rumor tool is not the function itself, but whether the tool or the community itself can condense a group of people who help to discuss, collect information, and organize rumors. I know that this piece of cofacts has been very hard in the past few years, but it has been done very seriously. However, the past news helpers have hardly done this, so I think the news helper is not very meaningful. Come over, if you can make the cofacts database build up the FB version, the community kinetics of cofacts rumors will be better than the resurrection news helper.
@null
15:55:41
@林博仁(Buo-ren, Lin) The Fire Department wants to be a disaster-relief website. You can find out if you are interested in the experience of Puyoma HackMD through Zhuo Zhiyuan."
@null
2018-12-30 16:52:08
I have no problem, but this technical content is not very high, it is an extended application of software.
@null
2018-12-30 16:52:48
@林博仁(Buo-ren, Lin) He has knocked you on Facebook, or I gave him your email.
@null
2018-12-30 16:54:18
I saw the Facebook message, directly on it.
@null
2018-12-30 17:10:07
Need help to knock me on XD anytime
@null
16:52:08
I have no problem, but this technical content is not very high, it is an extended application of software.
2018-12-31
@null
13:24:53
@chihao @mrorz The verbatim manuscript came out https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B%E7% B6%B2%E8%B7%AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96
@null
13:28:31
"But the draft of the "Digital Law", the Executive Yuan will not propose amendments. It is only collecting opinions from all walks of life for the members to refer to." So as I said before, the Executive Yuan certainly cannot propose amendments. It is only the Executive Yuan. I have done a lot of homework and draft bills and handed them over to the Legislative Council of the Chinese Taipei Executive Yuan to amend the law XDDDD.
@null
13:32:36
@chihao So some of my dear brothers in PDIS, I am "cannot listen to the facts that others have told you. I think this discussion is extremely unhealthy". I have always denied that 19-1 ~ 19-4 is the position of the government, you think it is me. Speaking in a mess? Or is that my dear friend did not study, escorting too much?
@null
2018-12-31 13:33:33
[It is not the position of the Executive Yuan. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7 %AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96#s248047)
@null
2018-12-31 13:34:02
Please continue to deny it.
@null
2018-12-31 13:34:54
You are "just" to give advice to the "Chinese Taipei Executive Yuan Legislative Council". Reference XDDDDD
@null
2018-12-31 13:37:55
[Not like this. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7 %AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96#s248202)
@null
2018-12-31 13:45:18
Really, I also believe that the Chinese Taipei Legislative Council has full legislative freedom.
@null
13:33:33
[It is not the position of the Executive Yuan. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7 %AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96#s248047)
@null
13:34:54
You are "just" to give advice to the "Chinese Taipei Executive Yuan Legislative Council". Reference XDDDDD
@null
13:37:55
[Not like this. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7 %AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96#s248202)
@null
13:45:18
Really, I also believe that the Chinese Taipei Legislative Council has full legislative freedom.
@null
13:48:33
Although I personally, I don't really like the position/argument of the IO political commissar: I have always denied that the 19-1 ~ 19-4 is the political center's suggestion/position. The argument is that it is only provided to the Legislative Yuan for reference, but is willing to disclose the verbatim draft. I should strongly encourage it!!!! I respect au's statement, but please also tolerate the free XDDDDD that I spread false information (?)
@null
2018-12-31 13:51:28
[We see how much freedom of speech in this society is to see how convenient and easy it is for everyone to speculate on government administration. If we can't arbitrarily speculate, we say that civil society is shrinking. If everyone can arbitrarily speculate on government administration, like the negative energy just now, we can also introduce the kitchen, so that the space of civil society is expanding. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-10-31-%E7%AC%AC%E4%BA%94%E6%AC%A1%E8%A8%98%E8%80 %85%E8%8C%B6%E6%95%98#s229893)
@null
13:51:28
[We see how much freedom of speech in this society is to see how convenient and easy it is for everyone to speculate on government administration. If we can't arbitrarily speculate, we say that civil society is shrinking. If everyone can arbitrarily speculate on government administration, like the negative energy just now, we can also introduce the kitchen, so that the space of civil society is expanding. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-10-31-%E7%AC%AC%E4%BA%94%E6%AC%A1%E8%A8%98%E8%80 %85%E8%8C%B6%E6%95%98#s229893)
@null
17:43:26
I would like to ask, "But the "Digital Law" draft, the Executive Yuan will not propose amendments. It is only to collect opinions from all walks of life and let the members refer to them." Who is the "community" here? On what occasions do you express your opinion? If there is a public hearing, there is still a record, but this statement seems a bit fuzzy.
@null
2018-12-31 19:55:14
At that time, some proposals were received every day, and the meeting was presented at the group meeting. In the verbatim draft [the opinion just received on the day] (https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A %9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7%AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96 #s248384) For example, I really don't know who specifically mentioned it.
@null
17:45:50
Therefore, 19-1 ~ 19-4 in the rumors have always existed, but it is "not the position of the Executive Yuan, and the Executive Yuan will not mention this version".
@null
17:46:31
Just to help the industry to consult, and then directly to the Legislative Yuan as a "reference" for the party group negotiations? !
@null
2018-12-31 19:45:37
The opinions of the participants at the meeting, including [principle opinions] (https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A %9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7%AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96 #s248178), all are provided to the Legislative Yuan for reference.
@null
17:50:04
"The bills proposed by the Executive Yuan will go through the procedures of the first, second and third readings of the Legislative Yuan." But if these provisions are directly amended by the legislators during the consultations?
@null
2018-12-31 19:50:27
As Luo political commissar said: [The Executive Yuan respects the final outcome of the final review of the bill by the Legislative Yuan. The process of discussion is not a policy, not a proposal, and it should be clearly stated. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-13-%E8%A1%8C%E6%94%BF%E9%99%A2%E7%AC%AC-3630-% E6%AC%A1%E6%9C%83%E8%AD%B0%E5%BE%8C%E8%A8%98%E8%80%85%E6%9C%83#s244613)
@null
18:57:08
@ronnywang Come and have a good time to go to Green Island to drink beer for the New Year? XD
@null
2018-12-31 19:31:07
Drinking wine at the village head's house for the New Year
@null
2018-12-31 19:34:34
I thought that the New Year's Eve would be as hot as the winter solstice, so I wanted to go to Green Island. As a result, the winter solstice began to wet and cold in a few days.
@null
2018-12-31 21:47:11
🎵 White rice wine cellar
@null
19:34:34
I thought that the New Year's Eve would be as hot as the winter solstice, so I wanted to go to Green Island. As a result, the winter solstice began to wet and cold in a few days.
@null
19:45:37
The opinions of the participants at the meeting, including [principle opinions] (https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A %9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7%AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96 #s248178), all are provided to the Legislative Yuan for reference.
@null
19:50:27
As Luo political commissar said: [The Executive Yuan respects the final outcome of the final review of the bill by the Legislative Yuan. The process of discussion is not a policy, not a proposal, and it should be clearly stated. ](https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-13-%E8%A1%8C%E6%94%BF%E9%99%A2%E7%AC%AC-3630-% E6%AC%A1%E6%9C%83%E8%AD%B0%E5%BE%8C%E8%A8%98%E8%80%85%E6%9C%83#s244613)
@null
19:55:14
At that time, some proposals were received every day, and the meeting was presented at the group meeting. In the verbatim draft [the opinion just received on the day] (https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-10-%E8%88%87%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A %9B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7%AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%A5%AD%E8%80%85%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96 #s248384) For example, I really don't know who specifically mentioned it.
@null
21:52:03
Sorry to disturb the mood of the New Year's Eve XDDDD, sorted out the timing of multi-card integration: * ID card combined with natural person certificate, not health insurance card, verbal promise can turn off the function of natural person certificate * The original plan of the second generation health insurance card was issued by the state The chairman of the committee will suspend * Anonymous high-level outgoing chip ID card will be merged with the health insurance card * The latest name is new eID, slide The ninth page reads: "Step-by-step introduction of health insurance card, driver license and other identification functions" https://www.slideshare.net/ OpenMic1/20181227-126795869/9 Partners who are interested in research, can get information with me private messages