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2020-05-20
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2020-05-21
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hi 大家，本周六第三十九次的黑客松，想要直接使用這個頻道做為筆譯的文字來源，這次會請 sam, chihao,acechen 來幫忙，今天揪松團彩排也會在這邊打一些測試文字，如果大家覺得太擾民就請留言，我再開個 channel 🙏
哈囉大家
揪松測試一下翻譯字幕，現在是晚上五點二十一分，今天晚上我想來點
鼎泰豐的小籠包
今天很長就會卡住嗎
我想說，字的外框可能需要粗一點
揪松測試一下翻譯字幕，現在是晚上五點二十一分，今天晚上我想來點揪松測試一下翻譯字幕，現在是晚上五點二十一分，今天晚上我想來點揪松測試一下翻譯字幕，現在是晚上五點二十一分，今天晚上我想來點
揪松測試一下翻譯字幕，現在是晚上五點二十一分，今天晚上我想來點揪松測試一下翻譯字幕，現在是晚上五點二十一分，今天晚上我想來點
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不好意思我懶惰複製，我應該自己打長一點
2020-05-22
Hi @chihao @sampeterrobbins @acechen 我今天整理了目前的提案，主要是三個人輪流幫忙翻譯，如果有覺得更好的分配方式請跟我說~~
1. 早上提案時段是9:40-10:40，請 9:30 以前請進入坑主的會議室 https://jitsi.jothon.online/g0vproposor
2. 要請你們將翻譯的內容打在 #translation 現在這個 channel
3. 下午成果發表時段是在 17:00 GMT+8，我想 acechen 應該睡了，所以就預計是會請 chihao 跟 sam 輪流翻譯
1. 早上提案時段是9:40-10:40，請 9:30 以前請進入坑主的會議室 https://jitsi.jothon.online/g0vproposor
2. 要請你們將翻譯的內容打在 #translation 現在這個 channel
3. 下午成果發表時段是在 17:00 GMT+8，我想 acechen 應該睡了，所以就預計是會請 chihao 跟 sam 輪流翻譯
jitsi.jothon.online
好好好 😁
翻譯測試
翻譯字體再測試
翻譯字體測試再測試 0522
同時測試翻譯跟彈幕的效果，來看看這次的大松直播狀況
感謝任翔幫忙修改
現在是新手教學
測試一下字幕
測試一下有多長，如果翻譯很長的話
Beijing to propose hugely controversial security law in Hong Kong
*Hong Kong (CNN)*China will move to pass a hugely controversial national security law for Hong Kong, in what could be the biggest blow
CNN
Months of anti-government protests and the US-China trade war forced Hong Kong into its first recession in a decade last year. Now the coronavirus risks plunging the Asian financial hub into its worst ever slump.
The move by China's rubber stamp parliament, the, which is meeting in Beijing this week, is sure to fuel further anger and protests in the city, which was rocked by over six months of increasingly violent anti-government unrest last year.
感謝筆譯小組
歐 有了
依賴
gogoog 我想測試一下翻譯
現在翻譯中
hihi 恩恩對
好喔
所以我們可以從
圖資推論這些淺力可以補植的地方
可以算出幾顆幾顆
大概270萬顆的機會
有很多假設
邀請大家一起來討論研究方法
有潛力的結果我們放在網頁上
例如有些指標基地
像是總統府前
她周邊有72棵行道樹
跟隔壁的行道樹是比較矮的
為什麼會發勝這樣的情形
先調閱資料發現有列冊，但沒有描述勿什麼是平頭
這兩個廣場都還存在
現在變成空的空地
在戰後之後就變成停車場
今天想要號召大家來參與
仔細探究 72 棵行道樹的身世
找到潛力用地 他的故事或特色
都很有趣
每個基地都有它的特性
因為衛星在指度上面 MIT 的一個方法
街景綠式率
找到可以補植的地方
同時我們有參與總統盃黑客松
希望可以把行政機制都堆上
這樣可以透過衛星檢查
讓機關來補植
這次我們有邀請兩位法國建築師朋友
建築師八部
他們有大的空地
可以透過空地來拼貼
一個人面對假訊息很辛苦
所以cofacts 機器人可以來分享
當你收到轉傳訊息 就可以獲得查證資訊
Beijing to propose hugely controversial security law in Hong Kong
[1:50 PM] *Hong Kong (CNN)*China will move to pass a hugely controversial national security law for Hong Kong, in what could be the biggest blow
[1:50 PM] *Hong Kong (CNN)*China will move to pass a hugely controversial national security law for Hong Kong, in what could be the biggest blow
Months of anti-government protests and the US-China trade war forced Hong Kong into its first recession in a decade last year. Now the coronavirus risks plunging the Asian financial hub into its worst ever slump.
The move by China's rubber stamp parliament, the, which is meeting in Beijing this week, is sure to fuel further anger and protests in the city, which was rocked by over six months of increasingly violent anti-government unrest last year.
翻譯在這邊~~~~~ 大家好！
對 在這邊
行道樹是平頭的狀態
因為這邊附近是總統府
所以我們發現在歷史圖台
發現這裡個廣場都不存在
但有官舍
後來官舍不見 總統府受損
所謂這兩個就是建築物轟炸釣
戰後以停車場為主
1. 早上提案時段是9:40-10:40，請 9:30 以前請進入坑主的會議室 https://jitsi.jothon.online/g0vproposor
2. 要請你們將翻譯的內容打在 #translation 現在這個 channel
3. 下午成果發表時段是在 17:00 GMT+8，我想 acechen 應該睡了，所以就預計是會請 chihao 跟 sam 輪流翻譯
2. 要請你們將翻譯的內容打在 #translation 現在這個 channel
3. 下午成果發表時段是在 17:00 GMT+8，我想 acechen 應該睡了，所以就預計是會請 chihao 跟 sam 輪流翻譯
2020-05-23
@acechen @chihao @sampeterrobbins 今天翻譯要打在這個頻道喔！
那有什麼問題！
耶耶 chihao 很早起！你有睡覺嗎XD
應該有吧（？）
好多專有名詞不會翻 XD 人文素質薄弱 QQ
沒關係 意思接近就可以XD
可以請教 chihao，chihao 專家！
等下閒聊就要到 #rand0m
這邊會是純字幕的部分
So are we translating now? 😉
可以~
翻譯在這邊~
We have participants from Japan & Korea today!
So we have made subtitle!
We also have a donate function
IF you donate
Your name will appear on our screen
There are also simultaneous hackathons happening in Japan and Korea right now
There is a talk at 12:30 (Taiwan Time)
We have invited community contributors from Japan and Korea and Hongkong to talk about civic hacking 🙂
Jothon has been very busy for the past month
We have hosted a virtual GCTF with AIT
A tung flower hackathon in Miaoli
We met local councilors and community members
We hope we can travel to more places in the future 🙂
Coming up: project pitches!
The first project is a open-source literacy learning system
The presenter is Sean
This system is made by Professor Chen
This system has collected much data
But programming is in Flash
Let me demo
There is also an interactive game you can draw characters to learn them
Data is stored in text files
Code is closed-source right now but Professor Chen wants to make it open-source
Ronny has used API of MoeDict
To incorporate the functions of Prof. Chen’s system into MoeDict
Thank you!
Congrats to chewei
Hello everyone, my name is chewei.
I'd like to propose a project "Patch by Planting" today.
The goal of this project is to find the incremental number or area of greenfields.
There is an international research project regarding fields without vegetation on a global scale.
This research is to search for the opportunity of reducing carbon dioxide by vegetating lands without forests.
We can implement some simple measures from related research on the length scale of Taiwan.
In order to calculate the number of trees, firstly we need to figure out where trees are.
Following that, we proceed to finding potential sites, then evaluate and vegetate these places.
For the map of trees, we are using satellite maps since the coverage of its data include the territory of Taiwan.
From the map covering the entire territory, furthermore, we can infer how many trees can be planted in these potential sites, which is estimated to be totally 2.7 million.
But there are some assumptions here, so that we are inviting folks interested in joining the discussion together.
We have uploaded the locations of these potential sites to the online map, please refer to it.
Among these sites, there are some representative places, such as two parking lots in front of the Office of the President.
These are squares in Urban Plans, so to speak, and there are 72 street trees around them.
Compared to other nearby street trees, these trees here are shorter and smaller, and sort of flattop.
So why is that?
First of all, we check the street tree documents of Taipei City, and realize there should be 72 trees indeed, but the documents do not explain why these are flat-top.
So we speculate whether it is due to historical reasons, as the place is very close to the Office of the President and etc.
We then realise that on the Academia Sinica website of historical maps, in 1945 USAF aerial photos, these squares did not exist, instead, there were buildings and houses.
However, in the photos of Jun 17th, 1945, these buildings and houses disappeared, besides, the Office of the President was damaged.
The reason is that, during the Taihoku Air Raid, these two squares were bombarded and later reserved as open places.
and mostly remained as parking lots after WWII.
Today, we would like to shout out to folks to join the discussion digging into the mystery of these 72 street trees.
which reflect that, when we find out the potential sites, what features and stories they have, and why they are not vegatated. They may have their own
In addition, as we mentioned, the resolution of street trees isn't great in the satellite maps, so we would like to refer to the study from the website Treepedia, released by MIT.
It is calculating the green canopy based on Google Street View.
Perhaps, this method may help us to figure out sites that can be vegetated in Taiwan.
Overall, we would like to establish the process via three key methods. Meanwhile, we are also participating in the Presidential Hackathon.
In the future, we will investigate these potential sites through checking the satellite maps and make a list.
Throughout the list, the vegetation can be done in either the governmental or non-governmental means.
Alternatively, the government can propose ideas that will be subjected to participatory discussion.
We also invited two architect friends from French. They have built an online tool that enables people to join the design, like the example here.
In other words, people can propose to add facilities or trees by illustrating their visions online.
With that, we would like to invite folks who are interested in collaborating on these ideas in the hackathon.
Thank you.
Our next proposal is "digital lunar calendar"
There are many different lunar calendars currently in Taiwan
But we want to make an open source new lunar calendar
And we can use open street map and combine the two
Our first goal is to figure out when are where farmers are planting crops
So we have some data about what time farmers are planting certain crops
So you can see what the data looks like at the moment
the following is "PTT can not die"
hello i'm okcool
Hi everyone this project is "PTT cannot die"
we've began the project since last May
We have been working on this project since July 2019
What are the challenges PTT faces?
The first is internet army, information manipulation, misinformation.
The second is the lowering of article quality.
The third is online fraud.
The current system architecture of PTT cannot sufficiently deal with these challenges.
So we’d like to reinvent PTT.
The first we want to introduce peer-review into PTT.
We want to reward authors for good articles.
We need people passionate about PTT to join us.
Technologies: Golang, AWS, GCP.
Thank you!
Are you annoyed by biased information?
This project has built different mechanism to try to deal with this problem.
You can search on our platform to see different perspectives of the same topic.
Currently our system looks like this
For example Mask Supply Map
Our system tells you the amount of speech of different perspectives in percentage
We are looking for webscrapping enginners
Find us online every Wednesday!
OK!
The next project is Jothon Online and 2D Jothon
This is a project aiming for holding hackathon online
the project has been translated to different languages
Hello everyone, I’m Ronny Wang.
Today I’m proposing two projects: Jothon Online and 2D Jothon.
Due to the pandemic, we began holding online g0v hackathons since last time.
Because hackathons have to be halted online, Jothon have developed Jothon Online
In the hope of migrating the physical experience and necessary tools to virtual platforms, despite folks can’t gather at Academia Sinica, we can still join the g0v hackathons together.
Therefore, we have migrated some elements such as self-introduction, as well as transforming project proposals to online channels.
So that you can see people discussing projects in different channels, then you can join the discussions.
And we can see all status via YouTube.
For instance, I’m interested in seangau’s project, and I can see there are already some folks in the channel, so I can go into the channel and join the discussion.
We can also use the chat room along with video conferencing features as well as the collaborating notes, and see other folks.
To be able to carry out the online hackathon, we are benefited by an open source video conferencing system jit.si.
You can have video conferences and chats from it, and you can also build your own system thanks to its open source.
For this reason, we are also developing 2D Jothon. You can customize maps like the RPG, and video chat with others. It is one of the goals today.
Furthermore, we are also developing the helper of split view.
This helper is designed in a way that you can customize the scene via HTML, such as showing the avatars in your scene, then project a specific jit.si chat room to your customized HTML.
Thus, it’s getting easier to control what the video conferencing you like, or the characters of the host and director, or how the display takes place.
So my proposal today is to refine these online tools such that more people can utilize them.
I would like to have assistance including feedback and comments regarding Jothon Online and 2D Jothon.
Moreover, if you are interested in the online map, we will also share tricks about the map editor and allow more folks to draw the picture of Academia Sinica you have in mind.
Besides, you are more than welcome to design the video conferencing features, in particular the interface.
Many thanks.
Our next proposal is 0archive
Hello I am Chihao
- ❤️1
We all know that fake news is a hot topic recently
And we think that research into fake news/real news needs a lot of data to work
so we want to make an open source data that we can all use
We've been working on it for about 6 months
So at the moment we've collected over 3 million documents
So you can use this to find out the origin of documents by finding the original source
We've already made an explanaiton of how to use our docuements and you can download it
Thanks for two donates!
Our next project is likecoin
Next project is LikeCoin Fantasia!
LikeCoin is a project from Hongkong
We are a project from Hong Kong
We want to change the status quo where authors are dependent on ad revenue to survive
We want to commit content to blockchain and use it to govern our data and coins
Everyone is a stakeholder in our "republic" and can participate in decision-making
This project started in 2017
You can find out more from our website
If you use Matters (a blogging platform) you have definitely seen LikeCoin
We'd like to invite engineers to join us
... to expand functionalities and applications of LikeCoin
If you are interested in blockchain
... please join us to discuss!
Find us in #likecoin channel
Thanks!
the next one is Amis
Next project is Amis MoeDict
today's lesson is ...
...
ppt 有中文
loma
this is lo and ma
loma = lo + ma’
you can see it in the upper right corner
This pronunciation is very very difficult
the follows are example sentences
this is what our hope to express
thank you.
at 11am, we will be in the channel for Amis teaching
Our next proposal is herstory east asia
There are Japanese and Korean people also working on this project
we have been thinking about what international projects we could do
And we released we didn't know much about women's history in East Asia
so at the beginning we wanted to make a simple system that could list certain events
So we now have a new interface
And we have collected many different stories
and we have started to created tags for different types of stories
we need people who can help us translate, so if you can speak Chinese Japanese Korean and/or English please help us
Our developer is in Korea, and we hope at some point in the future we can meet up in person
The next proposal is g0v summit 2020
Presenter is Pomin
g0v summit is a old project
Very big project
First summit was in 2014
In 2018, g0v summit was three days
We feel tired and think we need to change that
So in 2020, we decided the summit needs to last for 4 days
Why is this pit so big and deep?
We have to blame the three co-chairs of summit 2020
We have also found many people to stay in this giant pit
The open call for proposal will open in June
There will be a workers’ assembly this afternoon
There are many opportunities to participates in this year’s summit
Do you remember g0v Civic Tech Prototype Grant?
We are using the same online discussion functionality for the open call of this summit
Lastly please remember to wash your hands
2020, summit must win!
Hopefully to see you in December!
even though the pit is big.
we can do it.
The next project is "Community 60s"
it came from the work force of jothon
we have two volunteers and some members
before our events and meetings, we usually have 1 min to say something outside our work.
we will allow folks to record their 1 min talk in the future
demo time
going into the jothon online
here we already have three folks
by clicking the button, you can start the recording
Hi all, we are now presenting the project outcomes today!
大家好
我的專案叫 MyLog
MyLog 是啥呢？
分兩部份
第一部分是 Android app
使用者可以自行紀錄健康狀況
第二部分是管理介面
MyLog 用起來很容易哦
你可以自己紀錄自己的健康狀況、活動
如果你想要分享自己的資料
你可以與你的醫生分享一個單次有效的 URL
全部的資料會在 72 小時之後自動刪除
所以不需要擔心隱私問題
我們支援多國語言
包括英語、法語、日語、華語
我們今天做了什麼呢？
我們調整了白皮書
做了介紹用的投影片
更新了日語、法語的翻譯
如果想貢獻，請加入 #mylog14 g0v Slack 頻道
我們仍然需要設計師、推廣大使
多語能力、文件維護、翻譯
謝謝！
我們是herstory，是收集東亞的故事
首先，想要跟你們分享我們做了什麼，然後接下來要做什麼
為什麼要做herstory?我們發現來自亞洲很多地區的人都面臨同樣的問題
比如說，性騷擾
我們討論這些問題的時候，有寫單詞會讓對方不願意聽下去，比如說女性主義
但是如果可以講故事，他們或許會比較願意聽
所以我們收集了來自台灣，香港，日本，韓國的故事
也在我們的spreadsheet裡面做出多重語言的翻譯
這裏是關於Peng Wan-ru的故事
現在，我們要開始做更多不同的事情
希望以後我們可以多多跟其他媒體機構合作
特別是在女性權利方面的
或許我們可以分享我們收集的故事給他們
我們想要找只少會講其中只少兩個：日文，韓文，英文，中文
也是對女性主義議題感興趣的人
下一個坑是違章工廠舉報 disfactory
大家好，我是小班 ael
這個專案蠻特別的，是有地球公民基金會提案
照片裡是一棟違章工廠
著火但附近沒有水源，導致農地污染
我們希望讓人能簡單舉報違章工廠
讓政府稽查
如果你的社區有類似的需求、類似的 app，都歡迎跟我們聯絡
這是我們的 app 介面
以上是我們的 demo
我是這個專案的 PM
我們過去很努力，讓 g0ver 和 NGO 的合作能夠順利
現在我們每週三都有一個小聚
貢獻者來自四個時區
我們也在填坑的過程中自我培力
也希望能用這個坑來監督政府
謝謝
The next report is from the Amis mengdian
Amis MoeDict
This is an interview as part of a masters thesis
I think the amis dictionery is very interesting
The protection and maintain of files is important from the perspective of a researcher
The time scale of the amis dicitonary was somewhat more complicated than other projects I interviewed during my research
They are continuously coming into contact with new material
I think this is an effective and interesting approach
Next project is Jothon 2D Portal!
Hi I'm Stimim
Ronny 今天早上介紹了 2D 聊天室
現在我想要 demo 一個新功能 – 瞬間傳送門
在地圖上的奇異藍點，可以把你傳送到其他地方
demo 完了！
Ronny: I’m so touched that others are also joining building Jothon.
chihao please
OK
感謝 Cofacts 貢獻眾人
現在我想跟大家介紹 Cofacts 新網站！
I’d like to introduce to you Cofact’s new website!
我們也有新 logo 囉 🙂
第一個功能是「你的謠言」
就是可以讓大家找還沒有被回覆過的謠言
你可以看到不同種類的謠言
如果你是一個國外的記者、Factchecker，你也可以很容易從這裡找到各種訊息
You can easily find the most recent messages
哪有人一直切換語言的太猛了 \o/
For example this one
Donate 250cc blood today and you get a free FamilyMart coffee
有人已經回覆這則訊息了
Ah I made a mistake
1
在最左邊，你可以給回應讚
- 👍1
This is our website update today
也要謝謝各位貢獻者、測試者
謝謝！
Aray!
- ❤️1
幫你加阿美語啦娃哈哈
- 😁1
筆議員暴走
- ❤️2
- 🐳2
1
Sam to you
Today I want to talk about the 2020 summit
At 2 oclock today hosted a work session for the summit
Today there were 40 people working on the summit from all over of Taiwan
You can look at our notes to see what we discussed
You can go to the summit channel to find it
Today we asked all workers to vote on the design of the summit
And we decided on
wait a sec
And we went with the 4th design "Islands, oceans"
This is the previous design
So we use the new design moving forward
The final thing is to reming everyone to start thinking about what projects you want to propose
\ 2020 summit win win / \ 2020 summit 要贏 /
Next project is jothon online & split screen helper
\ ronny /
Google Chrome supports speech to teext
sometimes it’s buggy
What we’ve done today is sorted and added many issues
Like these
Many people helped to raise many issues
I expect to keep working on this for the following month
Jothon is considering to combine virtual and physical hackathon in July
That’s all
And now chihao wants to report on 0 archive
Hello I am chihao
Thank you to everyone who helped us
You can now see the current version
And I think the new system is a lot clearer
Thank you to muyueh, Seangau, lulucheng and Feng
Next project is "is logical (?) discussion online possible?"
I just came here to write an article
But I haven’t contributed for a long time
So I decided to share some of my thoughts recently
First I look at the characteristics of online discussion
One conclusion of an article is that the web is not good for reasonable logical discussion
（理性討論怎麼翻比較好呢，求解⋯）
rational...?
當下卡住找不到 rational 這個字 😆
Now we can see that the online space is filled with propaganda rather than discussion
I think the web is good a diverging but not converging
*good for divergence but not convergence
There was an article talking about "3 walls" of onlinee civic discussion
The wall of ignorance, idiocy, and info explosion
(Idiocy - inappropriate action)
Because of info explosion, attention really matters, and attention will create biased perception and makes discussion more difficult
Limited attention also makes opportunity for info manipulation, information operations.
Different platforms have different issues
I will also talk about this in COSCUP in August.
Thank you.
Sam to you.
So everytime we ask people what has been going on in everyones lives
and because of the virus, we might not have seen eachother in a while
so we asked 5 people to record an update on their lives
2020-05-25
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rational...?
2020-05-26
當下卡住找不到 rational 這個字 😆