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Month: 2020-12

2020-12-01

ichieh 10:17:46
@sampeterrobbins @yueh.ting.chen @kin465 @kevinliao @chloeweidepei
嗨各位，本周五就是 g0v Summit 2020，講者有陸續更新投影片或影片， 但台灣講者投影片可能不一定事前提供QAQ，會需要大家臨場幫忙筆譯了，感謝大家的幫忙！
翻譯班表及參考資料：https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g7aislwkQn9eQ3Wboh6Q4Ubv38F9beJUnowI9ZlnAFk/edit?usp=sharing
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2020-12-02

Dave Morrissey 20:00:36
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2020-12-03

tmonk 11:45:11
測測試測試
tmonk 11:47:35
這是一個可愛的測試
tmonk 11:52:33
這是一個完美的測試
tmonk 11:53:02
這是一個上下位置的測試
tmonk 12:04:09
這是一個輕鬆的測試
😆 2
ichieh 16:45:27
我也來測試
ichieh 16:45:51
測試測試
tmonk 16:46:44
快樂的測試
ichieh 16:47:01
yoyoyo
ichieh 16:47:06
我來翻譯
ichieh 16:47:10
這邊好亮
ichieh 16:47:28
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:47:30
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:47:33
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:47:36
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:47:42
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:47:43
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:47:43
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:48:15
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:48:16
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:48:18
所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:48:36
所以送太快會疊在一起?所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:48:38
所以送太快會疊在一起?所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:48:39
所以送太快會疊在一起?所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:48:42
所以送太快會疊在一起?所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:52:04
所以送太快會疊在一起?所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:52:06
所以送太快會疊在一起?所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:52:07
所以送太快會疊在一起?所以送太快會疊在一起?
ichieh 16:52:13
不會跌了好棒喔
ichieh 16:52:27
NullFull is a civic hacking community in South Korea. We often deride, mock, and criticize our government and politicians who waste taxpayers’ money. The following introduces our previous projects.
ichieh 16:52:30
NullFull is a civic hacking community in South Korea. We often deride, mock, and criticize our government and politicians who waste taxpayers’ money. The following introduces our previous projects.
ichieh 17:26:30
測試側赤
ichieh 17:37:40
就是明天
ichieh 17:37:46
大家準備好了嗎挖
ichieh 17:38:13
翻譯會像這樣跳
ichieh 17:38:33
P_20201203_173815.jpg
ichieh 17:38:41
現場持續測試中
ichieh 17:38:47
大家在台南了嗎～
ichieh 17:38:50
晚餐要吃什麼呀
ichieh 17:38:58
明天要早點到唷！
ichieh 17:39:11
但是不能帶早點早點到
ichieh 17:39:22
場內禁止飲食，只能喝水
ichieh 17:40:41
@sampeterrobbins @yueh.ting.chen @kin465 @kevinliao @chloeweidepei 嗨各位~ 明天 8:30 就開始報到囉！大家會在九點前準時到吧
ichieh 17:40:43
會吧
ichieh 17:40:46
會嗎
ichieh 17:40:52
拜託惹
ichieh 17:41:14
今天就是最後一天
ichieh 17:41:19
揪松在南美館持續測試中
Chloe 17:41:24
會的～👍🏻👍🏻
❤️ 1
ichieh 17:45:55
大家緊張嗎？我豪緊張啊
緊張(´Д` )
ichieh 17:46:01
今天台南天氣真好，有風
ichieh 17:46:05
測試繼續中
ichieh 17:46:11
等下會去好想開會
ichieh 17:46:14
充實的一天阿
ichieh 17:46:21
大家今天過得好嗎
緊張(´Д` )
ichieh 17:46:28
高鐵開很快唷
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 18:04:20
明天要到哪裡到？
ichieh 18:10:39
8:50 前請到南美二館跨域展演廳，因為還要報到（入口在司法博物館對面）
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 2020-12-03 18:20:44
知道了！謝謝！
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tmonk 18:16:40
測試彈幕
tmonk 18:18:38
測試彈幕
tmonk 18:19:25
哈哈黑
tmonk 23:17:38
愛
tmonk 23:17:40
勇氣
tmonk 23:17:41
力量
chihao 23:37:51
揪松誇張！
ichieh 23:38:55
愛 勇氣後面不是應該接希望嗎

2020-12-04

tmonk 00:15:04
對耶 接錯
tmonk 00:58:25
愛
tmonk 00:58:25
勇氣
tmonk 00:58:26
希望
tmonk 01:10:12
就是生命的奇蹟
tmonk 01:10:14
也許
tmonk 01:10:22
全世界我也可以放棄
tmonk 01:10:40
東
tmonk 01:10:42
洗
tmonk 01:10:44
男
tmonk 01:10:51
北
tmonk 01:11:08
This is my book
ichieh 01:15:55
是不是大家都沒睡覺
Chloe 01:26:24
還醒著！話說請問明天會有口譯嗎？
Chloe 01:26:40
好緊張QAQ
kjcl 01:26:54
我們在轉運站等客運XD
ichieh 01:31:32
屋賽挖賽！！你們太感人了QAQ
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ichieh 01:32:23
明天基本上就是筆譯唷！放輕鬆~ 就是盡力翻就好，如果我們前面覺得分工不順暢可以當場調整看要怎麼做~
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ckxpress 08:17:53
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Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 08:21:34
那邊有咖啡嗎？還是我先去買
那可能要買瓶裝的！美術館比較擔心在意飲食
ronnywang 08:42:58
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ronnywang 08:43:04
測試翻譯
ronnywang 08:43:21
Hello World
kjcl 08:44:23
hello world
kjcl 08:44:36
hi ronny
kjcl 08:44:53
After this section, there'll be a Slido Q&A
kjcl 08:45:14
And during the break, I'll put up this slide.
Chloe 08:46:28
哈囉test test
ronnywang 08:47:06
Q&A
ronnywang 08:48:14
A:B
kjcl 08:48:16
Hi everyone, I'm from the Liberty Times.
kjcl 08:48:24
We've been collaborating with g0v since 2017.
ronnywang 08:49:03
Q&A
ronnywang 08:50:12
100%
kjcl 08:51:19
Hi euveryone, I'm from the Liberty Times. We have been collaborating with g0v since 2017. This year we're focused on 'Temporary Small schools'. We're trying to use
kjcl 08:51:29
technology to improve education for our children.
kjcl 08:51:38
I can imagine there is common ground between g0v and our goals.
Chloe 08:51:48
we see that there an interestning case
kjcl 08:52:14
This is the slide we'll show when everyone comes in.
ronnywang 08:52:48
Q&A
ronnywang 08:53:08
1&2&3
kjcl 08:53:22
No food and drink in the premises, but water is okay.
ronnywang 08:53:26
Hello!
ronnywang 08:53:32
!@#$%
kjcl 08:53:33
There is a watcer cooler by the registration area
ronnywang 08:53:38
^&*()
Chloe 08:53:43
i want to cry
ronnywang 08:54:17
<>/
ichieh 08:55:32
eopXD 到了 翻譯們快帶他一起到翻譯區
ronnywang 08:55:41
tmonk 看到字幕請幫我重開翻譯，我修正了大於小於的問題 < >
ichieh 08:55:46
阿 是 eop
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Chloe 08:56:21
hello
Chloe 08:56:33
yeee
kjcl 08:56:53
t`1bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb1cccccccccccccccccccccydabt
ronnywang 08:56:56
大小於 <>
Chloe 08:57:14
=<
kjcl 08:57:20
hello
Chloe 08:57:32
ohaiyogozaimasu!
ronnywang 08:57:40
“Hello”
ronnywang 08:58:01
#include <stdio.h>
ronnywang 08:58:21
好，我這邊測試差不多了，特殊符號應該都沒問題
kjcl 08:58:26
`1do you think
kjcl 08:58:29
&&&
kjcl 08:58:38
okay that's better.
Chloe 08:58:39
about hwat
Chloe 08:58:50
odoke
kjcl 08:58:53
Code of Conduct
Chloe 08:59:03
comply
Chloe 08:59:05
with
kjcl 08:59:23
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Chloe 08:59:33
carry me kjcl
Chloe 09:03:50
hello
kjcl 09:04:07
there's quite a latency.
ichieh 09:04:10
ckxpress 最後一個翻譯夥伴要下去了~ HK夥伴
kjcl 09:09:08
we'll be beginning in 2 minutes. with so many participants, it's important that everyone feels welcome.
kjcl 09:09:22
we have a code of conduct in your bags so please look it over.
kjcl 09:09:31
we will really be emphasizing it this summit.
kjcl 09:09:41
all attendees are expected to abide by the CoC.
kjcl 09:09:50
we hope all participants create a safe environment for everyone.
Chloe 09:09:58
please respect all participants
Chloe 09:10:09
please do not do the followings:
kjcl 09:10:31
we do not allow harassment based on race, religion, gender, or other characteristics.
kjcl 09:10:48
we'll now return to the Jothon team.
kjcl 09:10:52
Hi, I'm Isabel.
kjcl 09:10:56
Thanks for coming today.
kjcl 09:11:07
Other people are still arriving but we'll get started now.
kjcl 09:11:29
when g0v does hackathons, we introduce yourselves with three words. I'm a Jothon member, Lawyer, mother.
kjcl 09:11:55
We'll have participants from Taiwan, South Korea and Japan and very excited for what's in store today.
kjcl 09:12:34
Apart from th e CoC, please abide by health regulations. please keep your mask on.
kjcl 09:12:51
in the summit areas, only drink water. no food/drink is otherwise allowed.
kjcl 09:13:03
wifi password: summit2020win
Chloe 09:13:14
2020summitwin*
kjcl 09:13:43
all Q&A is through slido. you can clickthrough each item on the agenda to write sli.do questions and collaborative note taking.
kjcl 09:14:08
because of the covid situation we will not pass microphones.
kjcl 09:14:16
thanks to all of our sponsors.
kjcl 09:15:05
thanks to all the volunteers who've put this together
Chloe 09:15:55
you can also ask questions through slido
kjcl 09:16:01
Click through the agenda for a hackmd link and then you can do collaborative notetaking.
kjcl 09:16:08
What is g0v?
kjcl 09:16:36
Open source, Action-based, civic participation
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our motto: don't ask why nobody is doing this. first admit you are that nobody.
Slackbot 09:16:51
先承認你就是沒有人
kjcl 09:17:32
The first hackathon took place in 2012 December. Since then we've had 41.
kjcl 09:17:53
The first hackathon project was to visualize the central government budget.
kjcl 09:18:08
From 2012 until now, we've done 41 hackathons annd this is the 4th g0v summit.
kjcl 09:18:29
From 2015, we started building up more formal systems, including grants, the jothon team, etc.
kjcl 09:18:58
and today we'll have a lot of focus on 'temporary small schools'. you'll be hearing a lot about that today.
kjcl 09:19:13
How does g0v communicate?
Chloe 09:19:22
in terms of g0v, it is a community that you need to “experience” to grasp
kjcl 09:19:37
You can find us all on slack. We're also writing notse on hackMD and elsewhere .
kjcl 09:19:54
Some researchers say g0v is the world's 3rd largest civic tech community.
Chloe 09:20:00
it is a decentralized community
kjcl 09:20:09
made of different projects
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vTaiwan, election guides, cofacts, and more.
kjcl 09:20:50
g0v is like a large grassland. but the tragedy of the commons means the grassland needs to be maintained.
kjcl 09:21:06
jothon maintains the grassland and makes it sustainable
kjcl 09:21:29
jothon in three words: build spaces, build connections, push collaboration
Chloe 09:21:30
create platform, connections, and collaborations
Chloe 09:22:00
there’s three projects that we have
kjcl 09:22:31
temporary schools, jothon online, summit
kjcl 09:22:47
later, we'll share from 6 projects that have won awards. these are their demos.
Chloe 09:22:52
these are the award winning proejects
kjcl 09:23:37
Our goals in 2021: Build roots, practice open source, utilize local power.
Chloe 09:23:51
thank you all for coming today
Chloe 09:24:21
we truly appreciate all the contribution
Chloe 09:24:36
i am the ceo of
kjcl 09:24:36
Hi everyone, I'm from the Liberty Times.
kjcl 09:24:49
From 20177 we've been collaborating with g0v
Chloe 09:25:00
especially children education
kjcl 09:25:14
We all share the goal of bettering Taiwanese societwy
kjcl 09:25:29
We have one project that might be of interest to you: "Happiness bank"
Chloe 09:25:31
it assist children in npo
Chloe 09:25:35
to collect points
Chloe 09:25:37
for future use
Chloe 09:25:47
in exchange of tangible products or service
Chloe 09:25:51
it has several values
Chloe 09:25:57
1. do not expect things for fre
Chloe 09:26:22
2. practice delayed gratifications
Chloe 09:26:46
which would have a real positive impact for their future
Chloe 09:27:25
i believe this project can help acheive these two goals
Chloe 09:27:37
another value that it offers is that
kjcl 09:27:51
So this can be unsed in theh household
kjcl 09:27:55
a child can accumulate points
kjcl 09:28:00
say 5 points for cleaning up the house, etc.
Chloe 09:28:26
so it empowers education within the family
kjcl 09:28:32
The 'Happiness Bank' is actually the product of collaboration between Taiwanese and Americans.
kjcl 09:29:09
Thanks Isabel, Good morning participants, I'm Zhu Du.
Chloe 09:29:13
i am the ceo of genuine education
kjcl 09:29:26
We're promoting digital education platforms in tawian
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We've felt the passion of our volunteers these last few years and wanted to collaborate with jothon.
Chloe 09:29:56
we hope to empower digital education
kjcl 09:30:13
We want to build more tools to empower teachers to help children in schools.
kjcl 09:30:28
On August 30th, we selected 6 projects
kjcl 09:30:30
/teams
Chloe 09:30:38
we’ll be sharing them with you today
kjcl 09:30:51
Including the "Happiness Bank", which you just saw.
kjcl 09:31:14
We're consulting with and involving teachers from communities across Taiwan to see how
kjcl 09:31:24
digital education tools can make the teaching experience better
kjcl 09:31:29
Thank you everyone
kjcl 09:31:41
Next we begin today's events.
Chloe 09:31:42
2020summitwin
kjcl 09:31:48
^^wifi password
Chloe 09:31:53
for those who need wifi
kjcl 09:32:04
You can find the hackmd through the agenda and ask questions through slido
Chloe 09:32:12
zhe wei will take over from here
Chloe 09:32:23
in terms of ‘temporary school’
kjcl 09:32:28
it began around february
kjcl 09:32:37
thinking about education from first principles.
kjcl 09:32:52
it's a very continuous process from february to now.
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involving various stakeholders.
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teachers, engineers, journalists and more.
kjcl 09:33:30
How can we improve edtech project ideating?
Chloe 09:33:38
and how to position themselves in the market
Chloe 09:34:02
we’ve selected 6 award winning groups to share about the projects with you all
kjcl 09:34:10
Every project gets around 8 minutes.
Chloe 09:34:24
if you have any questions, please put them on on slido
kjcl 09:34:30
If you are directing your question to one project, please make it clear in your slido question which project
Chloe 09:35:00
let’s welcome ‘word recognition’ to share about their project
kjcl 09:35:13
Hi I'm tmonk
kjcl 09:35:17
t for typing ,monk for.. monk
kjcl 09:35:31
Database is a keyword in this project name.
kjcl 09:35:42
The origin is from the third 'temporary school' event .
kjcl 09:36:04
there's a learning gap from students who are unable to understand the structure behind
kjcl 09:36:10
characters/numbers
kjcl 09:36:25
maybe there are students who aren't bad at math but just can't break down math questions.
kjcl 09:36:31
and mathematical literacy.
Chloe 09:36:52
questions exploration:
kjcl 09:37:08
So you have to shoot zombies by typing words
Chloe 09:37:13
it tests your literacy proficiency
kjcl 09:37:14
and we use this method to build literacy.
Chloe 09:37:18
and your reaction speed
kjcl 09:37:23
this can target all ages.
kjcl 09:37:33
it can prevent dementia
kjcl 09:37:49
So in the past, g0v has had a urban dictionary projects.
kjcl 09:38:05
and we can use projects like this to pick out wrong words in our sentence bank.
Chloe 09:38:05
it trains your ability to read
kjcl 09:38:50
broadly, you can improve your literacy and contribute to wider data sets, like duolingo and captcha
Chloe 09:38:50
this is the road map of the product deisgn
kjcl 09:39:11
can we generate large problem sets for our user base to solve ?
kjcl 09:39:28
often computers generate bad questions
kjcl 09:39:38
and so we rely on our user base to mark 'good and bad' questions
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:39:54
Finally, what will this project look like in the end ?
Chloe 09:39:59
with collective collaborations, we optimize this question bank
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:40:26
Let's take a look at an example
kjcl 09:40:46
looking at this bus stop, can i tell what direction to go in?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:41:03
This is the one I think is the most interesting, if I take a long strain of words
Chloe 09:41:08
here’s another example
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:41:33
and you have to say how you would actually call that food normally
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:42:12
When we are making the questions, we have to wonder, will the questions become out of date?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:42:29
so we use 0archive, which collects news reports, so we can see what kinds of phrases are still in use
Chloe 09:42:30
applications:
kjcl 09:42:45
Can we digitize museum archives
kjcl 09:42:58
Can we read election campaign contributions
kjcl 09:43:25
Why is it called a database? It's more of a backend service that can be used to build products
Chloe 09:44:23
let’s welcome ‘chatbox for high school students’
kjcl 09:44:44
Today I'll like to introduce my chatbox for hs students
kjcl 09:44:55
I'm Huanjie, almost 19
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:45:09
I am currently a high school student in Taipei
kjcl 09:45:24
I love writing projects, caring about educational issues
kjcl 09:45:36
Talking about social issues with no easy answers.
kjcl 09:46:08
What is CBFHSS?
Chloe 09:46:10
What is chatbos for hs students?
kjcl 09:46:25
It's a chatbot to lessen the burden on HS students
kjcl 09:46:37
Students often forget homework
kjcl 09:46:39
and other things
kjcl 09:46:51
It's a chatbot that reminds you of your tests and homework
Chloe 09:46:54
the mission of our team is to transform education digitally
kjcl 09:47:02
I want to help schools with dbigital transformation
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:47:10
We already have online educaiton material, and many systems
kjcl 09:47:18
but at schools we're still using paper noteboks
kjcl 09:47:21
and paper assignments
Chloe 09:47:29
we would like to develop a system
kjcl 09:47:31
We've been around for a year now.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:47:34
This is the history of the project, we've been around for one year
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:48:29
I used to forget my stuff a lot, and since everyone in my class has the same homework, I thought I'd build something we all could use. I didn't think I'd end up building something for all of Taiwan
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:49:09
In June, we started working on launching the 2nd edition
kjcl 09:49:10
In March, we worked with the internet center on combatting disease. that effort has wound down.
Chloe 09:49:11
in this june, we’ve started the second version of the development
Chloe 09:49:36
we’ll add in npl and nlu for our 3rd edition
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:49:48
Here are the difference between the two editions:
Chloe 09:49:59
the difference between CBFHSS v1 and CBFHSS v2:
Chloe 09:50:41
• menu design
Chloe 09:50:47
• better respond time
kjcl 09:51:00
We rearchitected the database
Chloe 09:51:17
• readable code
kjcl 09:51:19
New focus on devex
kjcl 09:51:26
this is a system diagram
Chloe 09:51:38
the main differnence is that we’ve seperated program and database
Chloe 09:51:42
for the security
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:51:51
This is mostly for safety reasons, as our data is mostly from minors
Chloe 09:51:53
to protect the information of the students
kjcl 09:52:00
please scan the qr code to check it out.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:52:18
Here you will see three buttons: homework, exams, and
kjcl 09:52:19
you'll see three buttons: "Homework, exam, announcement."
kjcl 09:52:31
It will ask you to add to the database
kjcl 09:52:39
Missing functionality:
Chloe 09:52:42
pending features:
kjcl 09:52:44
PUush notifications
kjcl 09:52:51
Permissions limitation
kjcl 09:53:11
Handover plans
kjcl 09:53:23
A software for high school students should be run by HS students.
Chloe 09:53:34
we’ll develop a series of courses to pass on the project
kjcl 09:53:38
I'll be hosting various talks to help people famialirize themselves with the project.
kjcl 09:53:42
please participate, thanks!
Chloe 09:53:42
thank you
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:54:10
The next project is "Coteach"
Chloe 09:54:39
Hi we are CoTech, open education platform
Chloe 09:55:05
we’d like to build a platform for teachers to share their teaching exprience
Chloe 09:55:11
and to foster discussions
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:55:16
But, the internet already had some similair platforms
Chloe 09:55:20
yet there are some limitations
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:55:49
For example, the document layout isn't consistant, so there can be difficult uploading/sharing material
Chloe 09:55:49
so what is coteach
kjcl 09:56:08
Last year in August
kjcl 09:56:43
Next we'll summarize what we did at each stage.
kjcl 09:56:51
In the beginning, we bulit a collaborative environment.
kjcl 09:57:01
First we wanted to build a database of all existing open source teaching materials.
kjcl 09:57:24
We wanted to use user interviews to understand how to lower barriers to entry for teachers
Chloe 09:58:04
feel free to scan this QR code for more information
kjcl 09:58:05
Feel free to use CoTeach.app to search through our database for teaching materials.
Chloe 09:58:42
it includes such as course objective, grading metrics, etc.
kjcl 09:58:48
Our target audience is teachers, hoping to make syllabi more transparent and open
kjcl 09:59:08
Syllabi/lesson plans
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:59:14
So we mentioned that we're trying to understand our user's needs
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:59:19
so we have began doing interviews:
Chloe 09:59:19
we’ve interviewed the teachers,
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 09:59:31
So we will share some of our interview data and reflections
Chloe 09:59:41
we would improve this system in these ways:
Chloe 09:59:48
1. timing
Chloe 09:59:56
2. performance evaluation
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:00:38
Teachers told us that they often change the lesson plan immediately after the lesson
Chloe 10:00:49
in terms of the sources resource
kjcl 10:01:01
For students, maybe content is too politically correct so they find it boring
Chloe 10:01:11
we provide sources that are more credible
kjcl 10:01:51
For example, a page on Facebook like 'Advertiser Referee' provides an educational help, but has copyright issues
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:02:04
With regard to the content and form of lesson plans:
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:02:16
We found out that teachers don't often write too detailed lesson plans
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:02:33
So we want to change from shaqring lesson plans to sharing teaching resources
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:02:54
If you're interested you can get in contact :
kjcl 10:03:03
We want to move from a source of 'educational proposals' to an 'teaching resources' bank
kjcl 10:03:49
Hi, I'm a volunteer with Mozilla.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:03:55
Hello, I am Irvin,
kjcl 10:03:57
The project has two tools:
Chloe 10:04:00
here’s the progress of cco corpus
kjcl 10:04:15
Our mission is to create a corpus of public domani Traditional Chinese sentences.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:04:17
Our guide is to collect sentences in traditional MAndarin with no copyright restrictions
kjcl 10:04:38
We want to build a corpus of spoken, colloquial Taiwanese marndarin
Chloe 10:04:46
it collectives conversational sentences
kjcl 10:04:53
Simple sentence structure
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:05:03
We want to make our material easy to access
kjcl 10:05:09
The corpus exists of txt files that live on a Github Repository
Chloe 10:05:11
this is what it looks like
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:05:13
This is what the layout looks like
kjcl 10:05:19
As of right now, the contributions are: Irvin and flyinglimao
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:05:34
There are many that have provided language mateiral and sentences
kjcl 10:05:36
We also have many volunteers giving sentences and contributing in other ways
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:05:46
Currenrtly we have 11,917 sentences
kjcl 10:05:47
As of right now, we have 11917 sentences, 112721 words
kjcl 10:05:54
Without repetition, 3137 characters
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:06:06
We have currently collected 78,2% of commonly used characters
kjcl 10:06:23
For pronunciation, we have 1012/1567 Chinese character pronunciations.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:06:24
We have collected 64.6% of common mandarin pronounciaitons
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:06:35
But pronounciations are much harder to collect
Chloe 10:06:39
(which is the hardest part as of now)
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:06:56
We are still figuring out how to organise the material
kjcl 10:06:57
Every second Wednesday we have a work day,
kjcl 10:07:07
Every fourth Saturday we have a workshop.
Chloe 10:07:14
the goal of our development are: 1. build workflow
kjcl 10:07:24
Flyinglimao has been building the workflow to make this possible.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:07:34
If you upload a sentence, this is the basic material it will automatically generate
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:07:45
It'll also tell us what characters we are missing
kjcl 10:07:46
This tool tells us the remaining characters not in the database yet
kjcl 10:07:53
So you can use these characters to make sentences
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:07:53
We invite everyone to collaborate
kjcl 10:07:58
and help us fill in the holes in our database.
kjcl 10:08:02
Please participate!
kjcl 10:08:12
We nee help cleaning data, writing nodejs
Chloe 10:08:16
we also need people with the background of linguistic
Chloe 10:08:25
and marketing
kjcl 10:08:30
and use the database to see how it's actually able to be applied to real-world projects.
Chloe 10:08:36
if you’d like to join
kjcl 10:08:42
To join, go to #rand0m on slack.
kjcl 10:08:48
When you speakyou're already helping us build our corpus.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:08:51
The other channel is on Telegrapm
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:08:53
Telegrapm
kjcl 10:09:00
*Telegram
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:09:16
What have we forgotten?
kjcl 10:09:16
We forgot something...
kjcl 10:09:27
Wheers' the MCV bank?
Chloe 10:09:41
it collects more than 30 languages
kjcl 10:09:42
It's a project by Mozilla to build a voice corpus of languages aroudn the world.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:09:57
It already has 77 hours of Taiwanese language data
kjcl 10:10:08
Taiwanese Mandarin, Chinese Mandarin, Hong Kong Cantonese and more.
kjcl 10:10:19
We are currently assisting Hong Kongers in building the HK Cantonese corpus.
kjcl 10:10:23
Lend us yourvoice!
Chloe 10:10:31
we welcome everyone to contribute !
kjcl 10:10:35
Help us develop the digitization of the sinitic language family
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:10:38
Please go to commonvoice.mozzila.org to record
Chloe 10:10:52
now let’s welcome Dao Dao online learning platform!
kjcl 10:11:10
Please use Taiwanese to read our project name.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:11:16
There is a double meaning in Taiwanese
kjcl 10:11:24
It actually means "take your time, learn at your pace'
kjcl 10:11:34
We hope people learn at their own pace
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:12:05
Why are we doing this?
kjcl 10:12:07
So why are we doing this?
Chloe 10:12:20
in this fasting changing world, what skills do we need to acquire?
kjcl 10:12:34
We hope for people to choose their own educational path
Chloe 10:12:35
first, we believe it’s the self-learning ability
kjcl 10:12:44
For people to tailor their own education in a rapid-changing world.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:12:55
There has been a lot of arguments about the 2019 curriculum reform
Chloe 10:13:10
the demand for self-learning is also on the rise
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:13:18
When we try to self-study, we will face a lot of difficulties
kjcl 10:13:19
ecause of difficulties in navigating curriculum, people often just give up
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:13:30
Such as how to organise my time, how to find resourses
Chloe 10:13:41
we’d like to leverage collective knowledge
kjcl 10:13:43
We hope to use common collective intelligence to build a classroom with no limits
Chloe 10:13:48
to create a platform with no limits
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:13:58
Well, since trhere are so many issues with self-study, where do we start?
kjcl 10:14:12
So the first question: Where do I find educational resources
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:14:13
So the first issue is: how do I find resources?
Chloe 10:14:31
so who is our target audience?
kjcl 10:14:34
We have people crowdsourcing different resources,
kjcl 10:14:46
and so we're facing the queestion: with so many resources online, how come people can't find it?
kjcl 10:15:00
There's information overload
kjcl 10:15:12
too many resources and not enough help in figuring out what is a quality educational resource
Chloe 10:15:24
so how do we solve these problems?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:15:39
We are hoping to build an open source community where everyone can edit together
kjcl 10:16:01
Now over to Qiwei
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:16:03
How did we turn these goals into a website?
Chloe 10:16:04
so how do we implement this?
kjcl 10:16:34
Everyone in g0v has experience with self-studying
kjcl 10:16:45
In Taiwan, high school students don't necessarily have the ability to self-study.
kjcl 10:16:52
They need help to build curricula/processes for self-study
kjcl 10:16:59
So this is what our first version looks like
kjcl 10:17:05
we've grouped resources by subject area
kjcl 10:17:12
We've added tags
kjcl 10:17:16
We have over 13,000 resources
kjcl 10:17:25
We've built a google calendar to show educational events.
kjcl 10:17:39
We've also built a map to let you see irl resources
kjcl 10:17:48
Version 2 is coming!!!!
kjcl 10:18:01
We built v1 in 1-2 monsh
kjcl 10:18:04
s time we took a little more time.
kjcl 10:18:09
this is the home page.
kjcl 10:18:17
This is the resource list.
Chloe 10:18:23
a more organized version
kjcl 10:18:35
We have a better looking educational resource map.
kjcl 10:18:43
THis is an overlay over Google Maps
Chloe 10:18:46
which is much more user friendly
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:18:51
There is now more detailed explanations as well
kjcl 10:19:02
Now we have a section for experiential/experimental learning.
kjcl 10:19:15
This lets people join groups of like-minded students in a virtual classroo.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:19:23
the most important thing is that our V2 has a member feature
Chloe 10:19:24
we’ve also added a memership feature
kjcl 10:19:28
We want to build a system where learners can coonnect
kjcl 10:19:35
our v1 was built on wordpress.
kjcl 10:19:38
that wasn't great
kjcl 10:20:10
We did a survey of our v1 participants
kjcl 10:20:15
We'll skip over that bc of time constraints.
kjcl 10:20:27
We found people have high needs so we need more volunteers.
kjcl 10:20:33
v3 will be online by March.
kjcl 10:20:41
This is a short film we've prepared.
Chloe 10:20:54
through collaborative learning
Chloe 10:21:07
we’d like to build a connected learning community
kjcl 10:21:08
This is our website QR Code
kjcl 10:21:14
Thanks eveyrone
Chloe 10:21:22
let’s welcome the next team
kjcl 10:21:36
There are already many questions on Sli.Do
kjcl 10:21:56
so if you have a project, please go to slido and look over to seee if anyone has asked you questions
kjcl 10:22:03
Good morning everyone.
Chloe 10:22:07
Hi we are “Happiness Bankbook”
kjcl 10:22:39
Today I'm really happy to be here.
kjcl 10:22:45
I met Bess in February in Sanhsia
Chloe 10:23:12
our mission is to educate the kids
kjcl 10:23:16
I've always hoped that kids havve to learn delayed gratification and reward through work.
kjcl 10:23:30
Our target is high-risk kids in the Sanhsia district
kjcl 10:23:39
Many have incarcerated parents
Chloe 10:23:41
these kids come from a rather disadvantaged background
Chloe 10:23:52
we’d like to support these kids
kjcl 10:24:03
We build a social support network aroud these kids
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:24:05
We started with these kids in 2006
kjcl 10:24:22
We started with paper records for our happinessbank
kjcl 10:24:31
Paper records were not easy to keep and were often incorrect.
kjcl 10:24:40
Kids often lost them
kjcl 10:25:03
When they go missing, kids feel like their efforts went to waste.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:25:08
So the kids felt like, I worked so hard for this, and now I have to start again
Chloe 10:25:17
so to solve these problems
kjcl 10:25:21
So how can we make sure we record the hard work of our kids?
kjcl 10:25:28
So we worked with a team in the United States
kjcl 10:25:40
incl. a designer "John" and a programmer "Justin" in the US
kjcl 10:25:42
and Jiabin
Chloe 10:25:58
we’ve developed an app for our paperless “happiness bankbook”
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:26:02
Now the kids don't need to use paper records, they can use an app on the teacher's phone
kjcl 10:26:18
Kids can use points to exchange snacks
kjcl 10:26:38
Now when smartphones come out of teacher's pockets, kids know good things are about to happen
Chloe 10:26:52
we also create mission for kids to complete
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:26:58
Apart from calculating the points on the app, the app also allows you to set takss
kjcl 10:27:13
kids can build working groupys
kjcl 10:27:20
for instance, to fix/repair books in the library
kjcl 10:27:27
so our kids will learn that they can repair the world aroudn them.
kjcl 10:27:32
One day, the kids blocked a drain
kjcl 10:27:41
so our kids created an effort to unblock the drain
kjcl 10:27:48
They got a whopping 20 points for that.
kjcl 10:28:00
They're learning to build a bank of happiness and also the immediate gratification of fixing something.
kjcl 10:28:22
We also want to bring this tool to other environments.
Chloe 10:28:25
we encourage more interactions between us and the kids
kjcl 10:28:37
Last week in Taitung, another organization required a donation of 200 pens.
Chloe 10:28:48
we asked the kids if they can help
kjcl 10:28:50
So we asked our students to donate ourpoints to give these kids the pens they need.
kjcl 10:28:57
Now Jianbin will introduce the 'behind the scenes'
kjcl 10:29:09
You can download our app on Apple/Google stores
kjcl 10:29:18
Test user: demo. Password: password.
kjcl 10:29:35
In August, we finished the web version
Chloe 10:29:39
since august we’ve accomplished the following
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:29:48
This is the backstage of our online version:
kjcl 10:29:53
Our backend is pretty low-cost.
kjcl 10:30:04
To prolong the longetivity of the application.
kjcl 10:30:10
Our monhtly expenses are aroud 100NTD
Chloe 10:30:27
we’re hoping to expand
kjcl 10:30:35
If everyone donated 3NTD, we could keep this project going.
kjcl 10:30:49
We are happpiness bankbook, thank you everyone.
Chloe 10:30:49
thank you
kjcl 10:30:57
q&a time
kjcl 10:31:26
Because the questions are targeted towards different projects, I'll direct them
kjcl 10:31:33
There are a bunch of questions for coteach
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:32:18
3 people have asked how do you plan to deal with the issue of different document types (.doc etc)
Chloe 10:33:35
we are in need of teachers with different backgrounds
kjcl 10:33:42
If you have suggestions, we are happy to accept them!
Chloe 10:33:50
so please feel free to share your thoughts with us!
kjcl 10:34:13
Everyone can write lesson plans, including outsiders.
kjcl 10:34:27
Currently the website is a demo.
Chloe 10:34:33
so in terms of how to use the hashtags,
kjcl 10:34:34
It's functionality is just a search engine.
Chloe 10:34:59
we’d need to leverage machine learning and keyword analysis
kjcl 10:34:59
The hashtag should be built through language processing but we're not there yet
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:35:18
We had already been collecting sentences in HK
kjcl 10:35:21
For cc0: Who's using the service?
kjcl 10:35:50
A: Already used in HK. The question we're asking is, how do we split a language? Do we need separate banks for say: Hong Kong Cantonese
kjcl 10:35:56
Guandong Cantonese? Guangxi?
kjcl 10:36:07
Although Taiwanese Mandarin and Chinese Mandarin are mutually intelligible
kjcl 10:36:17
there are differences in pronunciation, slang and moer.
kjcl 10:36:29
Combining databases is easy. Splitting is harder.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:36:33
What about Hakka and Taiwanese?
Chloe 10:36:44
we also have plans on them
kjcl 10:36:48
We also are interested in connecting Aboriginal Taiwanese languages
Chloe 10:36:55
yet there are some thresholds:
kjcl 10:36:57
But Mozilla has barriers to entry: 5000 sentences minimum
kjcl 10:37:11
and we have limited speakers of Hakka and Taiwanese Aboriginal Languages
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:37:17
and I can't write Taiwanese
kjcl 10:37:18
If we get participation, we can start this database!!!!
Chloe 10:37:50
so what is your vision for the future development of the education system?
Chloe 10:38:57
so let’s talk about education technology
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:38:58
Education technology is a broad concept
Chloe 10:39:14
it is not limited to a website or a service
kjcl 10:39:19
Someone asked: How do we think about the problems of self-study?
kjcl 10:39:26
Well, I studied in an experimental school abroad.
kjcl 10:39:35
If you imagine a tworld where no one's telling you what to do
kjcl 10:39:40
your next question: okay, so what DO I do?
Chloe 10:39:49
also where can i find the resources?
kjcl 10:40:00
After a little bit, you'll realize: Oh goodness, directing myself really is hard!
kjcl 10:40:09
So we're hoping that we can help people overcome this obstacle.
Chloe 10:40:16
we’re thinking to invite mentors
kjcl 10:40:17
Q: Do kids only do things for ponits?
kjcl 10:40:19
*points
Chloe 10:40:21
to help guide these students
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:40:28
Well they already have to do a lot of these things
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 10:40:39
So they won't do them only the points
Chloe 10:40:56
we believe positive and negative reenforcement is important
kjcl 10:41:16
We don't anticipate impact to the values systems of their kids in a detrimental fashion
kjcl 10:41:20
Break time!
Chloe 10:41:22
(breaktime)
kjcl 10:41:54
*the gang takes a photo*
chihao 10:49:37
\o/ \0/ \o/ hands up for the translators \o/ \0/ \o/
eopXD 10:51:56
這段議程的講者來自日本與韓國
kjcl 10:52:02
大阪大學的研究生：mami-san
eopXD 10:52:03
首先目前就讀大阪大學的 monisa 主講
Chloe 10:52:26
他會跟我們分享專案
eopXD 10:52:29
接著由韓國的 not normal edu. tech party 的 🙂 主講
kjcl 10:52:33
*the gang greets each other in various languages*
Chloe 10:52:43
他是揪松執行長
Chloe 10:53:03
mami會和大家分享code for japan
eopXD 10:53:03
這是來自 Code for Japan 的 Miley
eopXD 10:53:09
這部分是關於「おうちで時間割（我在家的學習計畫表）」
因為近期疫情的關係而發想出來的軟體
eopXD 10:53:18
我們與來自台灣香港的公民科技參與者合作
eopXD 10:53:25
其中 Bess 還有 Mee 在肺炎剛發生時鼓勵我實現專案
kjcl 10:53:25
我們是COVID疫情的時候開始開發的案子
eopXD 10:53:33
我與 Bess, Mee 在台南的面海松遇見
eopXD 10:53:37
我也有在台北參與類似的黑客松
eopXD 10:53:43
受到了啟發於是有了現在這個 app
kjcl 10:53:49
面海松2019年的時候開始參與
eopXD 10:53:54
這個 app 的主要功能讓國小老師們
eopXD 10:54:07
把學習計畫送給因疫情無法出門的孩子
eopXD 10:54:14
期望在往後可能的二度或三度高峰期可以提供更多的幫助
eopXD 10:54:20
這個 project 由 CFJ 中的日本高中大學生共同參與製作
eopXD 10:54:25
接下來就讓我來介紹我們的動機與軟體如何運作
eopXD 10:54:37
在今年二月底因為疫情的關係 學校被迫停課
eopXD 10:54:46
而在中間五月中時 教育部在 UTube 線上直播上說到
eopXD 10:54:52
希望家長可以為每個國小孩童提供連網裝置
eopXD 10:54:58
也鼓勵老師組織線上學習的計畫 不讓小孩的教育受中斷
eopXD 10:55:04
對學校來說 這突如其來的要求十分難達成
eopXD 10:55:09
只有少數預算充沛的學校可以支援這項提案
eopXD 10:55:16
連網裝置對偏鄉或低收入者也成為挑戰
eopXD 10:55:19
我們就是為了解決這樣的問題聚集而來的！
eopXD 10:55:36
很多國家為孩童的線上學習
eopXD 10:55:40
幫學校或小孩準備了電腦 電腦的需求量因此而增加
eopXD 10:55:49
可是日本卻與這個現象相反 電腦的使用者在疫情時不增反減
eopXD 10:56:01
青少年較依賴手機 手機可以玩手遊看影片
eopXD 10:56:07
因為這樣⋯⋯大家就沒在學習~QAQ
eopXD 10:56:21
老師無法為學校準備電腦
eopXD 10:56:23
而學生相較於電腦，更習慣使用手機
eopXD 10:56:32
教育部又在疫情時 提案為學生準備線上學習計畫
eopXD 10:56:36
為每週的制定學習計畫
eopXD 10:57:01
計畫以紙本或 PDF 形式發布周計畫
eopXD 10:57:03
由老師傳遞、由電子郵件寄給家長、或放在學校網站上
eopXD 10:57:15
這其實不是個順暢的管道
eopXD 10:57:28
就算把這些文件電子化 其實也阻礙了不擅電腦的使用者
eopXD 10:57:42
也不是每個學生有自己的連網裝置
eopXD 10:57:48
老師們更不是每個都擅長電腦
eopXD 10:57:57
在了解全紙本與全電子化這兩個極點下
eopXD 10:58:06
我們需要一個折衷點 慢慢達成紙本的轉移
eopXD 10:58:27
也因此發展了我們專案
eopXD 10:58:37
我們最大的特色就是易於使用
eopXD 10:58:53
不需要帳號或登入
eopXD 10:58:58
只要輸入六個平假名組成的學習計畫編號
eopXD 10:59:06
就可以取得自己的學習計畫
eopXD 10:59:14
專門為攜帶裝置設計的介面
eopXD 10:59:26
簡化的介面可以讓國小一年級可以操作
eopXD 10:59:40
去除漢字而盡量使用假名
eopXD 10:59:43
（小學生還認不得很多漢字 只認得平假名語片假名）
eopXD 11:00:13
感謝 Bess 與來自台灣香港的參與者
eopXD 11:00:19
現在介面也支援英文與中文 使專案有國際化的介面
eopXD 11:00:25
讓其他國家的人也可以像日本學生一般線上學習
eopXD 11:00:38
我們也對計畫相關師生做了訪問
eopXD 11:00:47
發現小孩最想要的是
eopXD 11:00:51
幫這個 app 增加他們自己美美的塗鴉～ヾ(●゜▽゜●)♡
eopXD 11:01:05
我們專案也持續思考
eopXD 11:01:08
可以為新時代的「基本教育」做什麼
eopXD 11:01:12
而統整出以下幾點
eopXD 11:01:18
1. 更多的開放教育資源
eopXD 11:01:28
目前日本語的線上學習十分稀少
eopXD 11:01:33
教育界不熟悉如何選擇共享資源的版權法律
eopXD 11:01:40
2. 要讓所有人可以使用
eopXD 11:01:47
既然是「國民基本教育」 計畫要永遠要把所有人都考慮進來
eopXD 11:02:03
教育面前 人人平等
eopXD 11:02:14
3. 持續進步
eopXD 11:02:25
教育不能墨守成規
eopXD 11:02:28
專案的責任也在幫助老師
eopXD 11:02:33
隨著時代變化更進步自己的教學
eopXD 11:02:40
今年我們為日本線上教育踏出了第一步
eopXD 11:02:48
希望可以與師生家長攜手 一起用公民科技的力量前進吧！
eopXD 11:03:14
我想要分享更多
eopXD 11:03:18
讓我分享一下螢幕
eopXD 11:03:33
我還想分享一件事
eopXD 11:03:44
CiviTech Challenge Cup CCC
eopXD 11:03:52
這是 intern of CFJ 做的
eopXD 11:04:04
大學生作為實習生加入 CFJ
eopXD 11:04:33
這個 app 其實幫助了大學生
eopXD 11:04:40
在疫情期間無法去公司實習
eopXD 11:04:46
而有自己製作專案的機會
eopXD 11:05:16
我們在七月有了專案的網站
eopXD 11:05:26
也持續有例行性線上會議
eopXD 11:05:35
在十月有了一次 final demo
eopXD 11:05:58
CFJ 的實習生等下會介紹 CCC
eopXD 11:06:03
他也會介紹 CiviChat
eopXD 11:06:14
CCC 競賽中的冠軍隊伍
eopXD 11:06:23
大家記得在午餐後也來聽他們的分享歐
eopXD 11:06:29
謝謝大家～～<3
eopXD 11:06:42
我來解釋一下 CCC
Chloe 11:07:01
the interns of code for japan will be sharing their experience
Chloe 11:07:11
please feel free to join after lunch!
ckxpress 11:07:15
大家好 我是 Mee
ckxpress 11:07:26
我很高興跟大家一起來到 g0v 高峰會
ckxpress 11:07:32
今天，我會用英語跟大家介紹 韓國的 EdTech 教育科技和 Parti
ckxpress 11:07:41
現在我會分享我的投影片
ckxpress 11:07:49
在我們深入討論前，讓我先介紹 Parti
ckxpress 11:07:57
Parti 是個具社會性、民主、協作的項目，由韓國的活動家成立
ckxpress 11:08:06
我們相信新時代，新民主傾向，我們有機會利用新科技去重新演繹民主——
ckxpress 11:08:18
並透過開放數據、開放數據為社會提供更好、更多民主元素為重點
ckxpress 11:08:24
要把民主視為一個系統、生態，你可能會覺得艱難、陌生
ckxpress 11:08:29
但是，作為新時代、新公民，會傾向民主方式
ckxpress 11:08:44
你可以透過 EdTech、公民黑客、開源項目
ckxpress 11:08:49
讓社群解決問題
ckxpress 11:09:12
而且，我們可以利用公共領域的項目發生
ckxpress 11:09:20
讓政策制定者參考帶來轉變
ckxpress 11:09:28
作為一個新的方式
ckxpress 11:09:37
Parti 提供一個民主平台作為基礎建設
ckxpress 11:09:44
用戶組成民主小組，政策指定平台
ckxpress 11:09:57
它們全部都是開源，你可以跟我們協作
ckxpress 11:10:10
而且，我們製作了一個工具箱
ckxpress 11:10:38
這就是 Parti 在新常態下做的實驗
ckxpress 11:10:47
昨天，韓國學生考 SAT 公開試
ckxpress 11:10:58
COVID 19 今天依然在傳播
ckxpress 11:11:02
所有高中生都在家遠端上課，為期兩週
ckxpress 11:11:06
這讓我很擔心
ckxpress 11:11:10
SAT 考試比學生的健康還重要
ckxpress 11:11:15
當學習是基於學生到學校上課
ckxpress 11:11:21
這會讓學生冒險
ckxpress 11:11:28
自從 COVID 19 的傳播，我們正在反省教學制度
ckxpress 11:11:39
在台灣、日本、韓國都有相似的問題
ckxpress 11:11:44
這或許就是我們有這個分享的原因吧
ckxpress 11:11:50
在今年較早前，我們很難去判斷是否足夠安全讓孩子上學校
ckxpress 11:11:56
到了三月，韓國的教育部以一天為單位去做決策
ckxpress 11:12:06
孩子應否上學校
ckxpress 11:12:09
令得老師、學生和家長都無所適從
ckxpress 11:12:14
直至他們決定線上學習正式開始
ckxpress 11:12:27
他們提供指引讓學校在網上填寫進度、如圖中網站可見
ckxpress 11:12:31
而且，教育部為學生提供行動裝置和數據作上課用
ckxpress 11:12:38
韓國線上教學平台
ckxpress 11:12:57
政府部門提供基礎建設
ckxpress 11:13:00
給三百萬學生
ckxpress 11:13:08
線上教學平台是基於 EVSE 系統
ckxpress 11:13:16
如你在畫面看到
ckxpress 11:13:22
你登錄進系統，就如你去學校
ckxpress 11:13:26
這是政府管理整個教育系統的方法
ckxpress 11:13:32
韓國的 EdTech 教育科技主要由私人公司組成
ckxpress 11:14:22
針對兒童的教育科技市場很大
ckxpress 11:14:28
其他在疫情後大量被使用的平台包括 Zoom、Google Classroom、Microsoft Teams、Band、Kakao Talk 等
ckxpress 11:14:35
有趣的是，所有這些平台，都是基於溝通的需求
ckxpress 11:14:53
但對於民主活動
ckxpress 11:15:07
在跟學生透過這些平台溝通的過程之中
eopXD 11:15:08
我們作為與師生溝通的橋樑
ckxpress 11:15:43
因此，我們實驗以這平台在新常態下處理
ckxpress 11:15:55
一開始，我們，在公共領域欄目下討論社會議題，
在這新常態時代。
ckxpress 11:16:07
線上學習公共領域
學生、教師等走到一起
分享他們的看法
ckxpress 11:16:13
教育系統在 COVID-19 疫情下該怎樣演變
我們使用公共渠道收集群眾意見以作討論
ckxpress 11:16:24
在聚會裡，我們分享對於教學的滿意度、難題等統計
ckxpress 11:16:28
隨著線上教學的開展
ckxpress 11:16:37
教長應該關心子女的學習進展
提供指引
ckxpress 11:16:42
而教師面對越來越多的難題
他們需要對線上課程作準備
ckxpress 11:16:49
審閱學生的功課
ckxpress 11:16:55
學生方面
他們對於適應線上課程也有很大難度
ckxpress 11:17:02
線上課程是個單向溝通
讓他們很難聽懂困難的部份
ckxpress 11:17:07
保持專注
ckxpress 11:17:11
即使他們面對困難
他們依然覺得滿意
ckxpress 11:17:15
可以選擇自己覺得最適合的時間和環境聽課
ckxpress 11:17:24
其中一個有趣的結論是
ckxpress 11:17:27
學生認為線上教學允許他們高質量地分享資訊
ckxpress 11:17:35
他們很滿意
ckxpress 11:17:45
關於疫情後是否應該重新上課
ckxpress 11:18:05
他們覺得應該保持同時線上線下
ckxpress 11:18:18
這樣對於潛在出現其他狀況的可能性比較好
ckxpress 11:18:26
當我們問學生是否該在五月重新回到校園
ckxpress 11:18:31
大部分回應表示線上教學應該繼續作為選擇之一
ckxpress 11:18:38
我在線上教學平台開放公共領域
ckxpress 11:18:56
讓公民對 COVID-19 下教學制度作討論
ckxpress 11:19:05
他們討論大學學費的退費問題
ckxpress 11:19:15
韓國的大學學費很高
ckxpress 11:19:19
由於大部分課程變成線上
ckxpress 11:19:22
有人提出學費應該退回
ckxpress 11:19:30
為討論這些問題
ckxpress 11:19:33
校方和大學生針對性成立公共領域小組
ckxpress 11:19:39
第二，社群活動
ckxpress 11:19:44
教學就是在活動中學習
ckxpress 11:20:02
我們跟 美麗基金會共同成立 Youth Punch
ckxpress 11:20:07
年輕活動家團體
eopXD 11:20:32
他們可以在線上找到共同合作的或半
eopXD 11:20:42
共同解決社會議題
eopXD 11:20:50
女權問題與其他公共議題
eopXD 11:20:58
這些都是開源專案
ckxpress 11:21:07
以 wiki 頁面協作
eopXD 11:21:24
在韓國這個 學生症候群
eopXD 11:21:39
涉指在學習生不發聲
eopXD 11:21:44
消極學習
ckxpress 11:21:56
這是我們推出活動者的原因
Chloe 11:22:04
所以我們開啟了共同民主學校
ckxpress 11:22:14
最後是
ckxpress 11:22:21
我們開始了
Chloe 11:22:37
由實作學習
ckxpress 11:22:38
工作中學習的實驗
eopXD 11:22:55
春天時我們展開對人性與人類學的時驗
Chloe 11:23:15
我們使用一系列的教學模式
ckxpress 11:23:16
我們使用各種資源
ckxpress 11:23:19
比如
eopXD 11:23:23
研究疫情期間的社會現象
ckxpress 11:23:35
在第一季後
ckxpress 11:23:45
很多學生希望還有第二季
ckxpress 11:24:00
第二季
Chloe 11:24:13
他們嘗試使用不同工具來開發屬於自己的平台
ckxpress 11:24:19
在新常態下的分開與合作
ckxpress 11:24:41
他們的題目很多元
Chloe 11:24:56
例如環境變化，人口老化等
ckxpress 11:25:18
整個過程開放與公眾
Chloe 11:25:32
另一個是年輕學子藉由平台來發生
Chloe 11:25:37
發聲＊
eopXD 11:25:44
討論性別議題、全球暖化
eopXD 11:25:51
也一起唱歌享受開心的時光
Chloe 11:25:56
也探討一些他們關心的議題
eopXD 11:25:56
在這疫情十分嚴峻的時刻
ckxpress 11:25:59
整個經驗，大家都很愉快
ckxpress 11:26:09
即使都是在線
eopXD 11:26:23
我們展開線上的公領域
ckxpress 11:26:24
最後
Chloe 11:26:30
我想和大家分享學到的
eopXD 11:26:59
社群是會可以互相影響的
ckxpress 11:27:09
作為一個社會團體
eopXD 11:27:15
我們自己就是社會議題的驅動者
ckxpress 11:27:30
我們相信一個巨大社會實驗
Chloe 11:27:49
我們將和其他團體合作，
ckxpress 11:27:56
我們會繼續進行實驗
Chloe 11:28:00
進行不同的實驗教育
ckxpress 11:28:06
我們會繼續高開我們的實驗
Chloe 11:28:06
謝謝大家！
ckxpress 11:28:08
謝謝
ckxpress 11:28:23
你們在韓國作了很多東西
eopXD 11:28:35
接下來由 bess 分享他的經驗
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:28:51
哈囉我是bess
Chloe 11:28:51
哈囉 我是bess
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:29:02
我想跟大家分享我們今年做了什麼
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:29:13
covid-19沒有太影響到台灣
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:29:29
我們仍然可以在這麽大的場所舉辦summit
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:29:43
因此我們仍然以以前的方式面對所謂new norma
Chloe 11:29:50
為我們帶來了很不一樣的體驗
eopXD 11:29:55
我來自 g0v 揪松
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:29:56
我是來自g0v jothon 的bess
eopXD 11:30:30
我們小組現在專門為推動教育而行
ckxpress 11:30:39
我會會繼續跟開源社群一起
Chloe 11:30:40
我們會持續推動教育的開源話
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:30:44
jothon早在2012開始舉辦g0v 黑客松
Chloe 11:30:57
我們是全台第一的黑客松
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:30:58
我們是台灣第一個公共黑客松
ckxpress 11:31:02
基於 g0v 的禁菸
Chloe 11:31:11
我們進行了很多專案來幫助社群
Chloe 11:31:20
讓大家可以貢獻一份心力
ckxpress 11:31:23
自從 2016
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:31:29
從2016開始，我們有civic tech protype grant
eopXD 11:31:31
2016 公民科技獎助金鼓勵大眾持續參與公眾議題
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:31:42
在g0v社群裡面，很多人是志工
ckxpress 11:32:04
部份變得流行的項目包括
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:32:06
有一些專案變得比較有影響力，像是cofacts
ckxpress 11:32:16
真的假的、Vote Taiwan
eopXD 11:32:24
其實台灣的 Cofact
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:32:28
我之前不知道我們cofact算是一種先驅
eopXD 11:32:32
在世界上是驗證假消息的先驅
Chloe 11:32:35
那關於教育的部分
Chloe 11:32:56
大約佔了我們10%
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:33:03
在過去一年內，有55專案是針對教育問題，佔所有專案的10%
ckxpress 11:33:27
我們有很多人才在社群
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:33:29
在這個社群裡面，我們有很很有優秀的人
Chloe 11:33:38
我們想要開啟關於開源教育的專案
eopXD 11:33:47
社會其他參與者其實想要向開源社群學習
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:33:49
一開始，我覺得cowork 方式是很重要的
Chloe 11:34:09
我希望大家可以藉由這個設權互相學習
Chloe 11:34:12
社群＊
eopXD 11:34:19
開源社群與教育界可以各取所長
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:34:21
這是我們的策略
eopXD 11:34:37
開源社群可以提供產品專案管理
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:34:38
我們邀請來自g0v社群以及教育領域的人一起合作
Chloe 11:34:43
我們希望大家提出問題 一起討論
eopXD 11:34:50
教育領域可以發現需求
ckxpress 11:34:53
大家可以成為坑主
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:35:08
我有這張圖，是我們的教育科技ecosystem
eopXD 11:35:26
這張投影片上有許多現有的線上學習專案
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:35:43
我們有很多專案是可以cowork,真的可以說是一種ecosystem
eopXD 11:35:47
可以看到是個十分活躍的社群
ckxpress 11:35:55
我們有三個關鍵字
Chloe 11:35:56
我們如何建構這樣的社群ㄋㄜ
eopXD 11:36:01
一個有機的社群
eopXD 11:36:14
可以從種子 培育 到成長成大樹！
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:36:18
一開始，我們以g0v黑客松出發來培養教育科技社群
Chloe 11:36:21
大家每兩個月見面
Chloe 11:36:25
互相學習
Chloe 11:36:28
交流
ckxpress 11:36:32
二、培育
ckxpress 11:36:36
三、加速
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:36:48
8月時，我們選了幾個覺得很有潛力的專案
eopXD 11:37:16
所有得獎專案都在我們網站上線上開源
Chloe 11:37:31
最後我想和大家多說一點school 2021的專案
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:37:31
最後，想要分享一點有關sc001 2021
eopXD 11:37:42
2020 實在是太硬了
Chloe 11:37:43
有3個關鍵字
eopXD 11:37:48
希望能展望 2021
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:38:09
與下一代一起學習：
eopXD 11:38:17
我們希望能把經驗傳承給下一個世代
eopXD 11:38:29
希望能與國中小學生交流
Chloe 11:38:38
我們也想邀請更多有經驗的g0v的夥伴
Chloe 11:38:51
來分享他們的一些經驗
eopXD 11:39:00
他們的專案經驗可以促成更多專案的發想
ckxpress 11:39:07
比如，我們可以使用口罩地圖
Chloe 11:39:30
今年我也拜訪了許多當地的社群
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:39:39
希望之後會有更多合作的機會
eopXD 11:39:41
在不同的地方舉辦工作方
Chloe 11:39:42
希望可以和更多當地的社群合作
ckxpress 11:39:54
或者在不同的學校舉辦課程
Chloe 11:39:57
如果有興趣的話，請和我聯絡
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:39:59
如果你們感興趣請跟我們聯絡
eopXD 11:40:12
記得關注我們 追蹤 slack 上 #edu
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:40:14
請加入我們g0v slack 的 edu channel
Chloe 11:40:39
我們會回答
eopXD 11:40:43
接下來我們來訪問講者們
ckxpress 11:40:44
然後回到 slido 的問題
Chloe 11:40:45
slido上的問題
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:40:53
mamisan and mee 你們有問題想要問其他講者嗎
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:41:10
（沒有）
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:41:18
Isabel:那我來問問題
ckxpress 11:41:25
文化為本的學習很重要
eopXD 11:41:36
可以跟我們分享你們專案更多的細節嗎
eopXD 11:41:42
參與人書、一些 SOP
Chloe 11:41:46
有遇到什麼樣的困難
Chloe 11:41:49
等等
ckxpress 11:41:50
現有 Mee 來分享
ckxpress 11:42:02
在韓國有很多專案
eopXD 11:42:04
Korea 疫情十分嚴峻
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:42:15
最近一個是學習社群實驗
Chloe 11:42:24
從春天到夏天
Chloe 11:42:38
是第一季，秋天為第二季
eopXD 11:42:46
在每一季前我們準備學習計畫
Chloe 11:42:49
有一些沒有在上學的孩子
Chloe 11:43:03
讓大家一起來幫忙(學習)
ckxpress 11:43:03
有些已經離開校園
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:43:14
他們都說，雖然我不想上學，還先掛喔繼續學習
ckxpress 11:43:15
在線上，他們組織雪鞋
ckxpress 11:43:20
學習
eopXD 11:43:38
舉辦活動
eopXD 11:43:45
在線上運動、休閒娛樂
ckxpress 11:43:47
公共領域對此很喜歡
ckxpress 11:44:03
這對我 青年和老師都很好
eopXD 11:44:04
對我來說這經驗對學校師生與使用者都十分有幫助
ckxpress 11:44:11
每個人都很喜歡
Chloe 11:44:19
我們是一個線上學習的community
eopXD 11:44:21
我希望可以面對面見到他們
eopXD 11:44:25
希望在疫情後有機會
ckxpress 11:44:26
他們總說希望碰面
Chloe 11:44:39
我認為社群真的非常重要
Chloe 11:44:49
互相交流＆協助
ckxpress 11:44:53
食物和啤酒很重要（笑
Chloe 11:45:04
馬美桑
eopXD 11:45:21
肺炎前我們原本只有 400 人
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:45:23
Mamisan: 在我開始討論教育科技之前，我來分享一下codeforjapan的經驗
eopXD 11:45:27
現在成長了接近十倍
Chloe 11:45:27
在covid之後我們有4000
eopXD 11:45:46
很多人因此開始參與公民科技的進步
eopXD 11:45:57
原本 studyathome 只有 12 人
Chloe 11:46:03
有一半都是高中和大學生
eopXD 11:46:12
後來更多工程師背景參與 提供了很多幫助
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:46:18
有超過100人要加入教育科技
Chloe 11:46:29
我們有許多專案
Chloe 11:46:37
其中最困難的事
ckxpress 11:46:39
至於難題
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:46:54
我門開始這個專案，有很多老師跟家長有加入
eopXD 11:46:55
師生們一開始大量提出了要求
eopXD 11:47:08
但大家習慣得平台不一樣
ckxpress 11:47:12
有些使用 Google Suite，有些 Microsoft Teams
eopXD 11:47:15
甚至有人不會用電子產品
Chloe 11:47:20
我們無法決定一個最好的辦法
eopXD 11:47:23
所以在協作的平台上十分尷尬
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:47:44
我們決定聚焦在那些沒有devices軟體的人
eopXD 11:47:46
我們主要想讓沒有電子裝置或是無法支付昂貴軟體的人
Chloe 11:47:53
我們必續考量到沒有工具的人
eopXD 11:47:57
所以我們才創造了 study at home
Chloe 11:48:13
誰是ＰＭ？
eopXD 11:48:15
你專案力的工程師通常都是學生嗎
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:48:18
所以你們專案裡面的工程師，大部分是學什麼嗎
Chloe 11:48:38
在北海道的實習生和我是PM 我也街受了很多幫助
eopXD 11:48:41
大部分的協作都是線上的吧
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:48:42
所以大部分的合作是線上進行的嗎
eopXD 11:48:43
對
Chloe 11:49:04
雖然沒有實體見過面
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:49:09
大部分是3，4月開始做的，從來到現在還沒有實體見過面
Chloe 11:49:32
但我們有一個線上的關係
eopXD 11:49:35
希望下一個 summit 我們可以邀情 CCC 參與者
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:49:36
希望下一個summit可以邀請來自ccc的學生來台灣合作
ckxpress 11:49:42
我也希望下次來
eopXD 11:49:45
來當面分享他們的經驗
Chloe 11:49:54
有幾個人參與你們的專案？
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:49:59
Bess:我們專案裡面有幾個人嗎？jothon有10位
Chloe 11:50:02
還有面對到的難題是哪些？
ckxpress 11:50:10
最難就是教育本身
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:50:12
教育本身就很困難
eopXD 11:50:20
我以前不喜歡上學
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:50:20
我之前也很討厭上學
ckxpress 11:50:20
我本身很討厭學校
eopXD 11:50:38
我對教育的本質與現狀的差異充滿了疑問
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:50:49
我覺得大部分問題仍然存在
eopXD 11:50:52
人們卻對此沒有改變
Chloe 11:50:59
如果我們想要做一個關於學校的專案
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:51:01
如果想要有學校專案，我們到底可以做什麼
Chloe 11:51:07
最大的難題應該是
eopXD 11:51:15
讓大家喜歡上學習 ❤️
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:51:33
我們會繼續努力
eopXD 11:51:34
我們會持續努力！
Chloe 11:51:35
我們會持續推動！
Chloe 11:51:51
讓大家擁有一個最有效的學習
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:51:57
現在讓我們來看slido上的問題
Chloe 11:52:11
你覺得最新的科技會改變教學方式嗎
ckxpress 11:52:19
教師會喜歡新的模式麽？
Chloe 11:52:27
還有學習的方式會改變嗎？學生會喜歡嗎？
eopXD 11:52:39
有些老師對線上教學十分歡迎
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:52:42
有些老師其實對於線上教學十分感興趣
ckxpress 11:52:45
至於其他則覺得很大壓力
eopXD 11:52:51
面對疫情
Chloe 11:52:54
我認爲covid讓我們改變
eopXD 11:53:16
教育文化是我們決定的
ckxpress 11:53:20
新工具不應該決定
eopXD 11:53:33
文化才是真正改變的起點
Chloe 11:53:41
藉由covid 我們體驗到了新的教學模式
ckxpress 11:53:57
在新時代，可能學生不必定要回校園
Chloe 11:53:58
這是一個非常有彈性的教育
eopXD 11:54:03
更多的是 選擇
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:54:09
有個提議是，就算回到學校，要持續使用一些線上工具
Chloe 11:54:28
必須要有人決定一個新的教育模式
ckxpress 11:54:30
我們才能得到轉變，使用新工具
eopXD 11:54:57
傳統與新式線上教育其實各有支持者
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:55:05
今年，所有人開始覺得，我們必須使用一些心得工具
eopXD 11:55:12
是必須接受的轉變
eopXD 11:55:24
教育部也積極與公民科技參與者互動
ckxpress 11:55:33
在日本，校長有權利
ckxpress 11:55:35
權力
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:55:38
或許在公民科技社群不斷的推動下，我們可以慢慢開始改變教育模式
eopXD 11:55:41
而學生家長其實也可以從聲援這項議題開始
eopXD 11:55:44
做出改變
Chloe 11:55:44
如果家長也願意支持
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:55:56
我們要繼續努力
eopXD 11:56:01
讓大家更重視公民科技在教育的角色
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:56:17
我覺得大家還是喜歡old的工具
eopXD 11:56:19
在台灣我們其實過得很正常
Chloe 11:56:24
人們總是喜歡已經習慣的方式
eopXD 11:56:31
不過也因為沒有疫情的挑戰
ckxpress 11:56:32
我們都是舊常態
eopXD 11:56:42
我們沒有積極改變的壓力
eopXD 11:56:46
這或許不是好事
Chloe 11:56:51
我認為疫情將巨大的轉變社會形態
Chloe 11:56:54
包括教育系統
eopXD 11:57:05
台灣的優勢是硬體產業
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:57:07
我最近開始發現，因為台灣很擅長硬體製作
Chloe 11:57:22
所以總是硬體先 軟體後
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:57:23
我們喜歡從硬體開始，而不是從軟體開始
eopXD 11:57:24
軟體產業在台灣其實十分視為
eopXD 11:57:31
式微*
ckxpress 11:57:43
怎樣保持熱情？
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:57:46
怎麼讓參與社願意繼續參與
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:57:56
誰要回答
Chloe 11:58:03
bess:
ckxpress 11:58:13
在 g0v 社群
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:58:25
我覺得，在g0v社群裡面，我們以很多不同的方式encourage大家
Chloe 11:58:27
例如：食物
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:58:32
跟fun
eopXD 11:58:41
我們用 pizza 讓大家有開發的動力
eopXD 11:58:51
讓大家持續覺得參與這件事是有趣得
Chloe 11:58:52
我們總是用不同的方式 例如有趣味的活動
Chloe 11:59:02
鼓勵大家來參與
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:59:08
我們每次舉辦活動會有些嘗試，不斷的改變方式
Chloe 11:59:26
我相信必須要有一個推動者來
Chloe 11:59:30
保持一個動力
Chloe 11:59:48
並保持一個積極努力的態度
eopXD 11:59:48
維持一種慣性 來讓活動更有機的活起來
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 11:59:52
如果我們停辦一次，可能人會開始不想參與
eopXD 12:00:01
因為我們不夠「穩定」
eopXD 12:00:16
但是保持例行性就可以讓其他人認為可以偶爾參與其中
Chloe 12:00:20
當然還有食物 人 等等的
Chloe 12:00:39
我們也嘗試邀請來自不同城市的人來參加
eopXD 12:00:50
今天在台南舉辦也是希望可以達到這個效果
Chloe 12:00:59
我們嘗試各種不一樣的方式來engage大家
eopXD 12:01:11
解決問題的成就感也同樣吸引人
Chloe 12:01:12
mami桑：
Chloe 12:01:24
當我們遇到疫情時
ckxpress 12:01:38
covid-19 期間，我們每月舉辦黑客松
Chloe 12:01:42
我們更多舉辦黑客松
ckxpress 12:01:48
過往是兩月一次
Chloe 12:01:53
還有啤酒 清酒！
Chloe 12:01:59
來讓大家積極參與
eopXD 12:02:09
對我們專案而言
eopXD 12:02:15
在初版發行後
eopXD 12:02:25
貢獻者在看到專案實際運作後
eopXD 12:02:36
十分開心有成就感
ckxpress 12:02:39
當志工看了訪問後，很受鼓舞
Chloe 12:03:04
mee:
eopXD 12:03:12
類似台灣與日本
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 12:03:14
韓國跟日本，台灣蠻類似
eopXD 12:03:30
參與人數像波浪宜ㄧㄤˋ
eopXD 12:03:33
一樣*
eopXD 12:03:36
時高時低
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 12:03:41
一開始會很熱情，然後會慢慢冷掉
Chloe 12:03:52
我認為我們需要建構一個關係
Chloe 12:03:59
互相了解
Chloe 12:04:03
互相鼓勵
ckxpress 12:04:13
我常說鼓勵的說話
Chloe 12:04:14
所以我總是鼓勵 稱讚大家
ckxpress 12:04:25
告訴大家，我們在建立新常態
eopXD 12:04:30
我用盡全力 讓他們知道這是很棒的
eopXD 12:04:36
可以在疫情期間貢獻給社會大眾
Chloe 12:04:37
並和大家分享我們的目標
Chloe 12:04:55
我們建造一個人與人的關係
Chloe 12:05:23
讓大家互相互補 並且互相關心
Chloe 12:05:30
午餐時間！！！
ckxpress 12:05:33
對於社群來說，關係很重要
Chloe 12:05:35
謝謝！
eopXD 12:05:37
謝謝大家～～～TAT
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 12:05:40
謝謝
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 12:05:44
👋
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:33:03
大家好
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:33:17
我們會有很多來自台灣以外的講者
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:33:25
不幸的是，他們無法來到台南
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:33:30
但是他們會線上參與
eopXD 13:33:38
由高中介紹他們在開源社群的貢獻
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:33:43
現在有些來自日本的高中生
eopXD 13:33:53
我想介紹接下來的講者
eopXD 13:33:55
Koda
eopXD 13:34:15
Koda 先生來自 Code for Japan (CFJ)
Chloe 13:34:15
我們有從日本來的Koda
Chloe 13:34:33
還有shinsuke跟yuki
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:34:48
哈囉哈囉
eopXD 13:34:56
我們準備好了！
eopXD 13:34:59
Keigo 先生你好
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:35:11
今天有6位高中生
eopXD 13:35:14
以上六位高中生是接下來的講者
eopXD 13:35:31
如果有任何問題，可以在 slido 上提問
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:35:32
如果你們想問問題，請到slido去問
eopXD 13:35:55
我將會介紹「Code for Japan」
以及實習生們在 CFJ 做了什麼
eopXD 13:36:00
如果你不知道什麼是 CFJ 的話 不用擔心
我會先做個詳細介紹
eopXD 13:36:03
這是這段議程的摘要
eopXD 13:36:07
前五分鐘由我來介紹 CFJ
eopXD 13:36:10
包含我在內的實習生們為 CFJ 做什麼
eopXD 13:36:14
再來我會介紹由實習生舉辦的競賽－「公民科技挑戰賽 U-22」
eopXD 13:36:21
再來我會介紹由實習生舉辦的競賽－「公民科技挑戰賽 U-22」
eopXD 13:36:24
簡稱為 CCC U-22
（U-22 意即 22 歲以下）
eopXD 13:36:31
接下來 CCC 的冠軍隊伍 CiviChat 會用 8 分鐘來介紹他們的產品。
eopXD 13:36:41
所以這裡大家會認識 CFJ 以及 CiviChat
eopXD 13:36:44
我是在 CFJ 的實習生，同時也是一位高中生
eopXD 13:36:50
CiviChat 是這次 CCC 的冠軍隊伍，有五位成員
eopXD 13:36:54
讓我現在開始介紹 Code for Japan
eopXD 13:37:01
CFJ 是現在日本最大的公民科技社群
eopXD 13:37:04
我們的標語就是座右銘是「一起發想，一起實現」
eopXD 13:37:08
比起等待政府或其他人去完成，從我們自己出發開始解決問題
eopXD 13:37:16
這和 g0v 的座右銘很像
eopXD 13:37:19
「不要問為何沒有人做這個，先承認你就是『沒有人』」
Slackbot 13:37:20
先承認你就是沒有人
eopXD 13:37:23
CFJ 在日本扮演與 g0v 很像的角色
eopXD 13:37:29
我們在 slack 上聚集了超過 4000 人
eopXD 13:37:33
在日本有 80 個支部
eopXD 13:37:36
有些支部專門為去解決地域性問題
eopXD 13:37:39
有些是為了特定的公共議題
eopXD 13:37:42
舉一些例子來說，
eopXD 13:37:44
“Code for Cat” 是為了捍衛野貓的生命權而組成
eopXD 13:37:46
“Code for Giin” 是由市議會、州議會成員或國會成員組成
eopXD 13:37:52
CFJ 近期最知名的專案是「東京 COVID-19 資訊網」
eopXD 13:37:59
該網站由 NuxtJS 與 Netlify 所開發

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eopXD 13:38:03
許多學生都有參與這個專案的開發
eopXD 13:38:09
這個網站也被日本其他州 fork 作為網站的基礎架構
eopXD 13:38:13
CFJ 也有其他 COVID-19 相關的專案
eopXD 13:38:17
大眾可以用 “StudyAtHome（おうちで時間割）” 在疫情期間線上學習
eopXD 13:38:22
可以用 “Mamoriai Japan” 來獲得染疫者的足跡
eopXD 13:38:25
幫助追蹤社區感染
eopXD 13:38:29
“Open Eats Japan” 專案嘗試為餐廳制定統一的資訊格式
eopXD 13:38:32
提供給大眾更開放的飲食資訊
eopXD 13:38:35
這些專案都是開源的
eopXD 13:38:46
可以在 Code for Japan 的 github 上找到歡迎大家上來找自己有興趣的專案
eopXD 13:38:48
接下來介紹 CFJ 的六位實習生
eopXD 13:38:51
第一位是 Taiyu Yoshikawa 他是 CCC 的提案者
eopXD 13:38:54
也是北海道 COVID-19 資訊網的貢獻者
eopXD 13:38:59
第二位 Miyu Hirao 是設計系大學生
eopXD 13:39:05
他負責幫助我們的報告呈現 十分感謝他的貢獻
eopXD 13:39:10
第三位 Yuto Ashida
eopXD 13:39:13
現在投入 “Study at Home” 遠端學習平台的開發
eopXD 13:39:17
也是神戶 COVID-19 資訊網的貢獻者
eopXD 13:39:21
第四位 Kyo Watanabe 也是目前參與 “Study at Home”
eopXD 13:39:24
也是東京 COVID-19 資訊網的貢獻者
eopXD 13:39:29
第五位 Yusako Washio 目前代表日本在參加機器人比賽
eopXD 13:39:35
實習生們負責主辦活動與架設活動網站
eopXD 13:39:41
負責發想活動主題、負責組織講者以及其他活動企劃
eopXD 13:39:54
目前每個月會例行性主辦
eopXD 13:40:01
「公民科技論壇」、「社群揪松」、「CCC U-22」
eopXD 13:40:08
「公民科技論壇」每個月都會邀請講者座談
eopXD 13:40:16
參與者在座談後組成小組自己發展出屬於自己的會議
eopXD 13:40:21
一次論壇時間約 2 小時
eopXD 13:40:24
目前因為疫情改為線上 但也因此讓人可以遠端參與
eopXD 13:40:32
也讓我有機會與不在東京甚至是日本以外的人交流
eopXD 13:40:45
「社群揪松」則是每個月例行舉辦的聚會 從四月開始也轉為線上
eopXD 13:40:51
參加者可以帶著自己的專案來參加
eopXD 13:40:54
其他人可以在聚會上尋找自己有興趣的來加入
eopXD 13:40:59
每次揪松約為 6 個小時 中間會有午餐休息
eopXD 13:41:05
每個月的聚會都不斷有新專案出現
eopXD 13:41:10
這些專案都歡迎像我這樣的初學者或是非科技領域的人參與其中
eopXD 13:41:20
再來我要介紹 CCC U-22
eopXD 13:41:29
CCC U-22 是個為了解決社會問題而辦的競賽
eopXD 13:41:39
參加者可以在 slack 上線上組隊 從廣義的「社群」概念開始
eopXD 13:41:47
發想並嘗試解決一個「屬於社群的問題」
eopXD 13:42:05
有一個隊伍 “Code by Ray” 就藉由把政府提供的公車開放資料轉為 Json API
eopXD 13:42:20
提供大眾一個更開發友善的資訊協定 提升了公車資訊的開放性
eopXD 13:42:44
參加隊伍一共有 28 組（100 人）
eopXD 13:42:50
經過一個月的開發會選出 10 組晉級隊伍
eopXD 13:42:55
他們的專案都讓人感到驚艷 很難想像他們與我同年
eopXD 13:43:02
最後 CCC U-22 由 CiviChat 拿下冠軍
eopXD 13:43:07
接下來讓他們來介紹參加比賽的超厲害得獎專案
eopXD 13:43:16
感謝 CFJ 的介紹 接下來是我今天分享的摘要
eopXD 13:43:24
分別是成員 想要解決的問題 CiviChat 如何解決與 CiviChat 未來的展望。
eopXD 13:43:40
首先是成員 我是 Shunsuke Takagi 現在就讀於 N-HighSchool
eopXD 13:43:53
在參加 CCC 之前就已經在我們高中的獎助計畫中
eopXD 13:43:56
與 Keigo Murata 一起開發 CiviChat
eopXD 13:44:12
近期我們轉為企業而我現在是公司的 CEO
eopXD 13:44:22
主要負責專案管理以及公司走向的策劃
eopXD 13:44:31
大家好 我是 Keigo Murata 同樣就讀於 N-HighSchool
eopXD 13:44:36
我負責開發 CiviChat 在 LINE 的聊天機器人系統
eopXD 13:44:40
同時負責策劃系統架構 謝謝
eopXD 13:44:46
你好 我是 Hayata Yuge
eopXD 13:44:50
現在就讀 NIT Ibaraki 大學
eopXD 13:44:55
我負責在 CiviChat 做資料庫管理 謝謝
eopXD 13:45:15
謝謝 Yuge
eopXD 13:45:18
大家好 我是 Yuki Tkatsu
eopXD 13:45:20
一樣是 N-HighSchool 的高中生
eopXD 13:45:25
我負責開發 CiviChat 中的內容推薦系統 謝謝
eopXD 13:45:33
大家好我是 Yuki Minashi
eopXD 13:45:37
我就讀 N-HighSchool 負責在 CiviChat 做圖片設計
eopXD 13:45:44
謝謝 Yuki 現在讓我們先從我們想要解決的問題開始
eopXD 13:45:55
最大的問題是人們無法順利使用目前眾多現有的「公共政策與發展的軟體」
eopXD 13:46:01
問題來自於不友善的的使用者介面
eopXD 13:46:09
沒有支援手機通知
eopXD 13:46:13
沒有統一的格式
eopXD 13:46:21
手機通知的部分 現在政府雖然投入了資源再讓人民了解政策
eopXD 13:46:28
但是因為非自動化且非數位化的關係
eopXD 13:46:32
使這些投入並沒有讓人民如預期中
eopXD 13:46:36
了解政府為公民們執行了什麼政策
eopXD 13:46:44
目前現有的軟體使人眼花撩亂
eopXD 13:46:48
右邊是一張大學獎學金的圖片 可以看到圖中文字沒有統一的格式
eopXD 13:46:55
而且對該政策的評論也沒有經過審核
eopXD 13:47:02
綜合以上 CiviChat 想要打造出
eopXD 13:47:08
支援手機通知且有整齊介面的軟體來解決這些問題
eopXD 13:47:24
右邊是 CiviChat 的一些 Demo 畫面
eopXD 13:47:29
支援 LINE 手機通知
eopXD 13:47:33
與使用 CiviChat 時會看到的一些介面
eopXD 13:47:42
人民對公共議題的陌生讓他們不知道從何了解起
eopXD 13:47:48
CiviChat 透過聊天互動
eopXD 13:47:54
讓人民知道政府政策與目前日本的社會議題
eopXD 13:48:09
CiviChat 也讓所有資料保持在統一的格式下
eopXD 13:48:18
想辦法創造出友善 易使用的使用者介面
eopXD 13:48:26
這是 CiviChat 的資料庫管理系統
eopXD 13:48:29
你可以在這裡對條目做修改
eopXD 13:48:39
我們的系統支援線下瀏覽
eopXD 13:48:42
如果沒有網路
eopXD 13:48:45
你還是可以從上次的版本繼續使用資料庫
eopXD 13:48:51
當你連上網路時系統會再自動與雲端同步到最新版本
eopXD 13:48:59
最後來說說 CiviChat 的未來展望
eopXD 13:49:03
我們想要成為日本政府與人民之間的橋樑
eopXD 13:49:10
我們想要完成推薦系統
eopXD 13:49:20
並讓使用者群用他們的國民身分證來註冊帳號
eopXD 13:49:26
再來 透過與地方政府合作和我們資料庫支援線下操作的特性
eopXD 13:49:29
我們希望擴大更多政府窗口的使用情境。
eopXD 13:49:42
再來我們也想推動更多的開放資料（open data）釋出
eopXD 13:50:03
可以讓人民做中學 學中做
eopXD 13:50:10
感謝你們的聆聽
eopXD 13:50:14
感謝 CiviChat 精彩的分享
eopXD 13:50:16
我迫不及待想看到它正式運作了
eopXD 13:50:20
如果你們還沒加入 CFJ 的 slack
eopXD 13:50:24
可以到 cfj.slack.com 加入我們喔～
eopXD 13:50:27
以上就是今天的分享
eopXD 13:50:29
謝謝 g0v 的邀請讓我有機會分享
eopXD 13:50:31
也謝謝你們的聆聽 掰掰
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:50:49
謝謝
eopXD 13:50:58
感謝 kota 先生與 CiviChat, CFJ 傭雃
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:50:59
現在有一些問題
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:51:11
但是在此之前，我想要問
eopXD 13:51:16
政府有很多文件尚未電子化
eopXD 13:51:26
請問這是來自你自身的經驗嗎？
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:51:31
但是，這是從個人經歷出發的嗎？
Chloe 13:51:44
是什麼讓你們想要開始civichat?
eopXD 13:52:04
是碰到了什麼困境才使你們想要開始 CiviChat 2k7
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:52:05
在使用政府資料時你們有遇到困難嗎
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:52:36
我們有些來自聽眾的問題
eopXD 13:52:52
你再加入 CFJ 以來最大的改變是什麼
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:52:54
從開始進入C4J到現在，有哪些什麼
eopXD 13:53:04
在 CFJ 之前我公民科技沒有概念
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:53:16
我只有半年前才開始做coding
eopXD 13:53:21
那時我不知道 CFJ 是什麼
Chloe 13:53:29
cota: 我之前不知道civichat，直到covid 19
eopXD 13:53:38
我發現好多專案同時正在進行
Chloe 13:53:47
然後我得知programming無限的可能性
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:53:49
但是，其實，很花時間的
eopXD 13:54:00
我可以動手推動改變
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:54:12
我現在比較理解公民科技會遇到的困難
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:54:28
我很好奇，你們高中畢業後想要做什麼
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:54:51
你們畢業後想要繼續做公民科技嗎
Chloe 13:54:55
cota: 我準備繼續code for japan
Chloe 13:55:16
我也打算繼續研究科技
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:55:23
或許跟公民科技無關
eopXD 13:55:31
我會對科技保持熱情
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:55:33
但是我會繼續參加，繼續努力，
eopXD 13:55:35
做一個行動者
eopXD 13:55:54
這是我們第一次舉辦 CCC
Chloe 13:55:55
我們第一次舉行了ccc
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:56:05
這可能是第一次由學生舉辦的線上比賽
Chloe 13:56:17
主持人：最大的挑戰是什麼
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:56:17
你覺得什麼最困難
Chloe 13:56:37
因為還是學生 非常繁忙
Chloe 13:56:46
所以在時間管理上覺得很困難
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:56:47
都沒時間跟朋友見面
eopXD 13:56:59
你的同儕之間對開源社群有興趣嗎
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:57:16
好像我學校裡面完全沒有人想要參加
eopXD 13:57:22
應該是因為我的學校是公立學校
Chloe 13:57:22
在我的學校裡 幾乎沒有學生對於這個civichat有興趣
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:57:23
因為我們是普通高中
eopXD 13:57:48
n-高中基本上會圍繞著程式設計在教學的
eopXD 13:58:05
所以其實我同儕間對公民科技沒有太多的概念
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:58:15
我今天不去上課，但是好像沒人理解為什麼我今天不用去
Chloe 13:58:30
所以對我來說和同儕解釋我的工作是件不簡單的事
eopXD 13:58:39
有沒有辦法透過 CiviChat 貢獻自己的資訊？
Chloe 13:59:00
我們現在在研究系統上一些可以進步的地方
eopXD 13:59:09
開發正在相關溝通管道
Chloe 13:59:13
希望可以達到這個目標
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:59:26
我知道很多civicchat的會員來自n-high school
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 13:59:34
可以介紹一下你們的學校嗎
eopXD 13:59:38
N-高 是個非常著重數位時代發展的高中
eopXD 13:59:46
是定位十分特殊的學校
eopXD 13:59:51
你們有人想跟我們分享看看嗎
eopXD 14:00:27
N-高 現在是日本最大的技術導向學校
eopXD 14:00:53
許多學生會寫程式 或研究理工相關領域
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:01:04
謝謝分享
eopXD 14:01:12
希望大家都喜歡這段分享
Chloe 14:01:19
謝謝大家！
eopXD 14:01:25
謝謝來自日本的各位～～
eopXD 14:01:28
英文 gogogo
eopXD 14:02:42
緊接著接下來的議程
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:02:56
今天我們有兩位來自日本的講者
eopXD 14:04:11
首先我在疫情期間與朋友聊天
Chloe 14:04:19
首先 自從疫情爆發以後 學校關閉了
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:04:26
所以我去研究一些edutech
Chloe 14:04:31
這很困擾我的朋友
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:04:56
我給她介紹這些工具，我朋友覺得很不錯，但是後來她跟我說
eopXD 14:05:00
這個頁面介紹很多線上學習資源的 chatbot
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:05:10
”欸好像太多訊息了“
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:05:20
後來我就建立了一個資料庫
Chloe 14:05:24
讓我來跟大家分享
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:05:24
現在給你們看
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:05:31
是這個spreadsheet
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:05:41
一開始
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:05:47
她在幫我收集個案
eopXD 14:05:51
這裡整理了線上聊天平台在學習上的活用
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:06:20
後來，我覺得加入應該是一個好機會
Chloe 14:06:23
我認為這是一個很棒的機會讓學生可以
eopXD 14:06:30
因為學生幾乎對疫情沒有資訊管道
Chloe 14:06:32
在疫情時線上學習
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:07:00
其實，日本老師不太擅長使用科技工具
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:07:10
就算給他們用，他們也不知道怎麼用
eopXD 14:07:21
ICT = 資訊溝通工具
Chloe 14:07:21
甚是大學的學生也不知道
eopXD 14:07:40
許多人不知道 google slide 這類的線上工具
eopXD 14:07:57
日本人普遍沒有很多這方面相關的認知
Chloe 14:07:59
所以他們也沒有機會使用
Chloe 14:08:04
也不知道如何使用
eopXD 14:08:15
大家如果需要使用
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:08:32
希望做一個網頁，讓人可以使用我們的資料庫
eopXD 14:08:38
希望這個 spreadsheet 可以幫助大家熟悉更多線上工具
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:08:41
後來有更多人來幫我們
eopXD 14:08:55
提供更多的線上工具使用情境
Chloe 14:08:58
不過我們沒有程式背景 所以希望大家可以一起來幫助
Chloe 14:09:20
由於大家的幫助
Chloe 14:09:24
我們才能成功
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:09:25
我無法一個人做完這個計畫，只有透過合作，才能做到
eopXD 14:09:42
雖然這段議程沒有提供影片，但我們之後會提供
eopXD 14:09:51
希望之後可以幫忙撥出
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:10:08
我們開始放影片
ckxpress 14:10:22
bess: cfj 社群的項目
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:10:24
如果要找到他們，請加入CFJslack
ckxpress 14:10:33
大家有興趣的話可以加入
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:10:37
哈囉大家好
eopXD 14:11:02
我為老師與教育界組織全國性的會議
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:11:05
我在大學讀教育
Chloe 14:11:21
我們舉辦網上的活動
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:11:25
畢業後，我想要當幼兒園老師
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:11:37
在加入之前，我在一個NPO工作
Chloe 14:11:43
我對公民的事物很有熱情
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:12:01
在介紹專案之前，我先分享covid對於日本教育體制的影響
eopXD 14:12:03
教育部發布公告 希望學校「共體時艱」
eopXD 14:12:25
疫情之前學校很少去用科技資源
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:12:43
OECD有公佈的資料顯示，日本是最不實用科技的國家之一
eopXD 14:12:48
因此在疫情時的線上學習環境必須盡快被打造
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:12:57
如果沒有可以實體見面的教室，就無法進行教學
Chloe 14:13:03
為了能夠進行這個專案
Chloe 14:13:12
政府也投入幫助
Chloe 14:13:16
但是
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:13:21
為了解決這個問題，政府開始呼應教育科技組織
Chloe 14:13:25
日本有一個重視公頻的文化
eopXD 14:13:30
好加在大家對這議題十分重視
eopXD 14:14:00
政府希望學校可以為現況做出最大的努力
Chloe 14:14:39
目前 教學方式選擇的缺少是個大問題
eopXD 14:14:44
教師與學校必須面對疫情帶來的考驗
eopXD 14:14:45
與使用科技去克服它
Chloe 14:14:51
政府也正為此努裡
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:14:54
比如說，有些老師使用zoom教課
Chloe 14:14:54
努力＊
ckxpress 14:15:00
最後 老師嘗試使用 facebook 群組
eopXD 14:15:06
學生也自己設立讀書會
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:15:08
還有學生團體自己舉辦自學grouo
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:15:09
group
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:15:34
很多老師面對疫情感到很困難
eopXD 14:15:39
老師們不會用電腦
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:15:39
他們覺得使用科技很困難
ckxpress 14:15:54
二、資訊太少關於 Edutech
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:15:57
1）他們不知道哪裡找過去案例
eopXD 14:16:00
如何使用電腦也很少找到教ㄓㄩㄝˊ
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:16:04
2）資訊不夠
ckxpress 14:16:05
三、難以找到朋友幫助
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:16:23
其實這些問題比較簡單
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:16:28
我們用科技來解決吧
eopXD 14:16:34
我們用科技來解決對科技陌生的問題
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:16:36
所以我們開始class tehc rpoject
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:16:47
幫助老師找到有關科技教學的相關資訊
Chloe 14:16:50
建造個讓大家分享資訊的網站
ckxpress 14:16:59
然後我們在 CFJ 提案
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:17:05
然後，我們在cfj黑客松有提案
Chloe 14:17:15
然後建造了這個database
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:17:16
我門有收集資料然後做了這個資料庫
eopXD 14:17:19
藉由收集使用電腦的實際範例
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:17:28
現在老師可以使用資料庫找到過去範例
Chloe 14:17:29
現在老師可以分享他們的案件
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:17:42
我們現在想要介紹一些範例
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:18:04
這是由各地的老師合作做的study plan
eopXD 14:18:24
（介紹各式學習網站）
Chloe 14:18:51
如果想看更多資訊的話可以到這個網站
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:18:55
青島我們的完耶找到更多資訊
Chloe 14:18:59
（QR code）
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:19:13
下一步是建立一個老師社群
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:19:20
可以直接在我們的平台上交流
eopXD 14:19:30
改進他們的線上教學教案
Chloe 14:19:36
請和我們分享你們的想法！
eopXD 14:19:50
日本教育一直以來十分封閉
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:19:53
日本的教育一直以來是一個相當封閉的制度
eopXD 14:20:18
使得日本在現代科技普及程度相對落後的國家
Chloe 14:20:20
讓教育系統更加透明
Chloe 14:20:27
是我們現在越發重視的主題
eopXD 14:20:53
大家可以以不同的形式建立「學習」
eopXD 14:21:04
這是新的挑戰
eopXD 14:21:09
將封閉的教育轉為開放
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:21:18
謝謝聆聽
eopXD 14:21:19
希望這個專案可以為日本的文化帶來改變
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:21:24
一下是我們的QR code
eopXD 14:21:32
記得還看看我們 ><
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:21:39
如果你對我們的計畫感興趣，請加入我們的slack
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:21:45
謝謝
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:21:51
現在由聽眾提問
ckxpress 14:21:56
bess: 我們台下的問題
ckxpress 14:22:12
現在日本的情況怎樣？
eopXD 14:22:15
現在日本還好嗎
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:22:18
現在好了一點
eopXD 14:22:32
但許多人又開始焦慮了
eopXD 14:22:38
因為不知道下個高峰期什麼時候來
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:22:39
現在學生可以去上學
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:22:49
大學生還是線上上課
ckxpress 14:22:49
除了大學生以外。
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:22:54
所以還是需要以來科技
eopXD 14:23:03
ICT = 資訊溝通工具
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:23:05
所已有很多老師使用你們的平台嗎
ckxpress 14:23:08
很多學生或者教師使用你的工具麽？
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:23:14
我們剛建立的
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:23:22
所以現在有些在用
eopXD 14:23:28
希望透過分享可以讓大家更活躍的使用工具
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:23:31
希望可以讓更多人使用
eopXD 14:23:38
去盡量激活社群
ckxpress 14:23:46
我很意外 原來日本學生不太用電腦
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:23:52
我很驚訝，我現在才才知道日本學生不長用電腦
ckxpress 14:23:54
你覺額為甚麼
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:23:54
這為什麼
eopXD 14:23:55
為什麼!!?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:23:57
我也不知道欸
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:24:16
我不知掉為什麼日本人不實用
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:24:23
但現在是一個契機
eopXD 14:24:31
但現狀迫使他們必須使用
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:24:51
學生喜歡用什麼社交軟體
eopXD 14:25:01
twiiter
Chloe 14:25:21
教育
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:25:26
教育的話他們用：
Chloe 14:25:31
讓我分享一下：
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:25:39
surara
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:26:00
可以到這裡找到數學啊科學啊不同領域的資料
eopXD 14:26:06
這裡有很多線上測驗來讓他們學習
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:26:17
教育以外，instagram line 都在用
ckxpress 14:26:24
Bess: 我很好奇
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:26:24
那coding呢
eopXD 14:26:30
但是日本沒有學習專門的網站
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:26:40
日本學生想要學會coding嗎
Chloe 14:26:40
日本的學生有想要學programming的慾望嗎
ckxpress 14:26:44
Bess: 學生喜歡寫代碼麽
eopXD 14:26:53
現在大家從國中就開始學寫扣
eopXD 14:26:59
但老師不會寫扣
eopXD 14:27:04
所以也不知道怎麼教
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:27:16
但是現在至少有不少人想學
eopXD 14:27:20
希望可以從這裡開始普及科技的使用
ckxpress 14:27:36
Bess: 問題到這裏
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:27:37
我們的問題結束了
Chloe 14:27:39
我們今天告一個段落
ckxpress 14:27:41
Bess: 謝謝
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:27:45
謝謝你們來到這裡分享
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 14:27:50
感謝感謝
Chloe 14:29:08
we’ll invite them to talk about themselves with us
Chloe 14:29:15
hi everyone
kjcl 14:29:16
Hi everyone
Chloe 14:29:20
before we get intot his
kjcl 14:29:25
First intro.s
Chloe 14:29:26
lemme breidely talk about myself
kjcl 14:29:34
I'm Huiru, I'm at Tamkiang University teaching.
eopXD 14:29:35
im currently teaching public communication in TKU
Chloe 14:29:50
how do we reflect news edcuation
kjcl 14:29:51
We teach media literacy
eopXD 14:30:08
we have finished our 1st session in media education
Chloe 14:30:09
and this would be the beginning of our experinement
kjcl 14:30:11
Later I'll talk more about how we incorporate digital media literacy into our courses.
Chloe 14:30:24
i am the ta of this course
kjcl 14:30:25
Hi, I'm a student at TKU, a TA for the course.
kjcl 14:30:34
Hi, I'm Weiyu, a web master for the course.
eopXD 14:30:39
media education is an experiment to make people familiar with how media may impact or educate the audience
Chloe 14:30:44
finally let me quickly talk about this
kjcl 14:30:52
Usually, university courses aren't as well-resourced with a TA and a web master.
Chloe 14:31:06
teh social responsibility team from our school really supports us
kjcl 14:31:12
Actually, TKU was nice enough to give us resources for social responsibility related initiatives like this.
eopXD 14:31:16
we cooperated with some engineers to support us on some innovative ways to teach the lesson
Chloe 14:31:29
first we want to talk about the inspirations, the why
eopXD 14:31:49
how we add programming into current media industry
kjcl 14:32:04
We wanted to teach an understanding of how online readers interact with digital media
eopXD 14:32:12
how readers perceive news have changed as tech evolves
kjcl 14:32:32
Finally, we bring in engineers in to discuss how to build the backend of a news platform
Chloe 14:32:33
and the challenges and opportunities that arise in this case
eopXD 14:32:44
we need to design the backend for non-tech backgrounds to access the database
kjcl 14:32:53
And now I'll introduce our course
kjcl 14:33:07
In the past there are courses designed similarly, but we have two differentiating factors
kjcl 14:33:15
1. How do we pull in students who aren't interested in local issueS?
kjcl 14:33:19
Especially in the Taipei Tamsui Area
kjcl 14:33:28
related to economic development protests
eopXD 14:33:31
to engage the students into social issues
Chloe 14:33:37
through this course
kjcl 14:34:00
2. Usually people don't care about how readers interact with news media, but especially now, reader experience must be paid attention to.
kjcl 14:34:29
So we bring our students into the library to present the novel ways in which they're building news media experiences
eopXD 14:34:47
online exhibitions gives a whole view of a certain topic
kjcl 14:35:14
Now Ming-ju will present how students utilize platforms to create media.
Chloe 14:35:42
I’d continue to talk about how to empower students to think, to do storytelling through visual presentations
kjcl 14:35:57
You can scan the QR code to interact with content
kjcl 14:36:00
that our students have produced
kjcl 14:36:15
This March 23, the government wanted to propose
kjcl 14:36:21
building a light rail through Tamsui Old Street
Chloe 14:36:22
we had a public hearing in tansui
kjcl 14:36:30
The public was very opposed to the project
kjcl 14:36:50
and so we faced the issue: how do we attract readers to the local issue we were presenting.
kjcl 14:36:58
Our engineers will modularize the CMS
eopXD 14:37:00
bringing students to public listening on issues about Tamsui gives them the 1st hand feeling on the issue
kjcl 14:37:15
So that students can easily build engaging media experiences
kjcl 14:37:34
The students provided context of various factions and their opinions in side-pages
kjcl 14:37:42
For instance the green coalition.
ckxpress 14:37:46
from March to June, it’s not a long time
ckxpress 14:37:56
we have 70 people in our class
ckxpress 14:38:07
it’s more diversed
Chloe 14:38:20
in terms of the difficulties
ckxpress 14:38:26
it’s just 3 months
ckxpress 14:38:33
need to learn so much
Chloe 14:38:34
so we had limited time to make it happend
kjcl 14:38:35
29% of our students were frustrated that there's not a course dedicated to novel digital media presentations
eopXD 14:38:40
when they know how reader perceive, then they would know how to visually present the news
ckxpress 14:38:49
they feel the difficulties
kjcl 14:38:53
many were also frustrated at the fact that a single engineer was tasked with serving the needs of 70 students.
kjcl 14:39:19
Next our engineer will speak
Chloe 14:39:26
so in the first semester, we let the students upload the content on the website
kjcl 14:39:30
Hi, I'm Jiajun,
ckxpress 14:39:36
I’ll introduce Drupal
kjcl 14:39:36
let me introduce the CMS backend, Drupal.
eopXD 14:39:42
i introduce our backend of our management system
kjcl 14:39:51
The CMS is like a bdlog.
Chloe 14:39:51
in the market, tehy call it a template
kjcl 14:39:52
*blog
kjcl 14:39:59
But Drupal is more flexible.
Chloe 14:40:05
but you can think of it as a more flexible management system
kjcl 14:40:12
We can build modules/templates to make Drupal more extensible
eopXD 14:40:29
It is suitable for much complex using themes
Chloe 14:40:36
for exmple ecommerce, independent media or government
kjcl 14:40:36
Drupal is less used, because it has a high barrier of entry
Chloe 14:40:45
it is rather friendly for developers
eopXD 14:40:53
the complexity brings hard-understanding to non-devs
kjcl 14:41:02
If you use the appropriate developer tools, it's easy for an engineer to build a new site
kjcl 14:41:21
Its web admin user interface is a bit messy
Chloe 14:41:23
however, the interface isn’t so friendly due to the security concerns
kjcl 14:41:35
It's hard to point-and-click manage your content management
Chloe 14:41:51
they have a very easy-to-alter template
kjcl 14:42:08
On the other hand,
eopXD 14:42:15
Drupal is easy to integrate with other frontend frameworkds
Chloe 14:42:17
it can be easily edited as it’s well syncronized with its front end
kjcl 14:42:36
The commonly used W]ordpress is full of themes
kjcl 14:42:42
but Drupal themes are not that common
kjcl 14:42:48
so that's why the barrier to entry is high
eopXD 14:42:56
the learning curve of Drupal is rather shallow
kjcl 14:43:12
So in this project, we found that posting content is perceived to be like Twitter or Facebook
Chloe 14:43:14
we noticed that the students have a different understanding to uploading content
kjcl 14:43:18
Posting = just throwing text on a post
kjcl 14:43:33
Those of us who grew up with blogs understand that content presentation requires a lot more effort
kjcl 14:43:51
Now Facebook/other SNS take care of that for us.
eopXD 14:43:52
back in our days, we need to position every single text block or image on our blog
Chloe 14:44:09
there
Chloe 14:44:12
there
kjcl 14:44:27
The gap between people will knowledge of content placement and those without continues to grow.
eopXD 14:45:17
every slot can be setted by filling out the attributes
kjcl 14:45:32
By setting attributes, you can control content rendering
eopXD 14:45:38
you can see the width, background color and text
eopXD 14:45:56
we also provide integration with frontend framework
kjcl 14:45:57
Through Bootstrap, we can quickly style our content further.
Chloe 14:46:18
other segmenting effects:
Chloe 14:46:29
demonstration:
kjcl 14:46:32
Because of time constraints, we're not going to demo
eopXD 14:47:15
囧～
kjcl 14:47:31
Okay we're not gonig to demo because of time constraints.
kjcl 14:47:38
we'll show you the site
eopXD 14:47:47
To give you a taste of our work
kjcl 14:47:56
So this carousel is Bootstrap component
eopXD 14:48:05
the slideshow effect is provided by bootstrap
kjcl 14:48:06
This is an example of our past work
kjcl 14:48:19
Here's an example ofa pop-up
kjcl 14:48:37
This isa student project
Chloe 14:48:41
here’s a visualized map
kjcl 14:48:45
Links overlayed over an SVG
kjcl 14:49:01
(About the Danhai LRT project controversy)
kjcl 14:49:30
Because Drupal is an open source project, we struggle with convincing our students the advantages of the complexity of a CMS
kjcl 14:49:37
Esp. compared to Facebook, since it's hard to use.
kjcl 14:49:55
Is building a CMS for building rich engaging content experiences an uphillbattle? Let's discuss.
kjcl 14:49:57
Thanks everyone!
Chloe 14:50:44
we have 2 questions on slido
Chloe 14:50:56
i have a question personally though
Chloe 14:51:11
so in taiwan, I understand that there are companies that promote Drupal
ckxpress 14:51:18
Bess: as far as I know, there are companies in Taiwan who recommend Drapul
Chloe 14:51:22
but personally i think in terms of open source tool
ckxpress 14:51:32
the barrier is rather high
Chloe 14:51:33
the entry barrier is still high for npo
eopXD 14:51:51
is there any other easy-using tools other than fb?
Chloe 14:51:52
so for npo, is there any other tools with a lower entry barrier?
Chloe 14:52:15
so we’ve worked in ngo before
Chloe 14:52:28
I understand that lots of ngo are working with open source community
Chloe 14:52:33
i think that’s already a good start
eopXD 14:52:51
i think for NGO to work with opensource community is a good start for developing more easy tools
eopXD 14:54:16
our school promotes on cross-major coop. to create new possiblilties
Chloe 14:54:49
currently the program of media and communication still has a traditional teaching style, so in the trend of visualzied information, should we think that we should recuirt students with more techincal bacgorund?
kjcl 14:55:15
Q: Now there are tools like MakeWeb, I wanted to understand the differences between what you're doing on Drupal and existing tools.
eopXD 14:55:17
新聞是公民的基本素養！
Chloe 14:55:33
I think we should also incorporate courses that has more of a technical aspects
kjcl 14:55:51
Our core is not throwing on content, it's teaching people how to build rich media experiences
Chloe 14:55:53
our focus isn’t on literature, but with a more personalized approach
ckxpress 14:56:09
Bess: do you know makeweb?
kjcl 14:56:25
We want to teach people when looking at a story, how to select the appropriate presentation tools from a toolbox.
kjcl 14:56:38
To add to the last question, I come from a literature background.
kjcl 14:56:50
Nowaways, it doesn't take a serious coder to do frontend web development.
kjcl 14:57:01
More important than being a coder is understanding the tools to deploy in the right context.
eopXD 14:57:05
to know programming is not rocket scienct
Chloe 14:57:13
rather than knowding how to code, it’s more important to understand what programming can do for us
kjcl 14:57:37
Really, it's about meeting our readers where they are
kjcl 14:57:44
and understanding how best they interact with content
kjcl 14:57:50
similar to how UX/UI people approach design.
eopXD 14:57:55
media content to the readers is like designers to UX/UI
Chloe 14:57:57
do students collaboratively edit a newsletter?
ckxpress 14:57:57
Bess: will student work together to write a piece of news?
ckxpress 14:58:08
if they do, how to collaborate?
Chloe 14:58:11
if so, how do they commmunicate with one another on the platform?
ckxpress 14:58:17
what preferred tool?
eopXD 14:58:22
students may want fancy things
kjcl 14:58:31
Sometimes students go overboard on effect
kjcl 14:58:41
and they lose sight of the original story and purpose of the content
Chloe 14:58:46
I think students sometimes overdo the visualization
kjcl 14:59:06
This is why I want students to be able to explain the 'Why' of why they added effects.
Chloe 14:59:10
i think the hook at the beginning is most important
kjcl 14:59:20
It's not about 'wow'-ing your user every single paragraph of a 5000 word longform article
eopXD 14:59:23
rather than visual effects, its more important on how to improve the story telling on the topic
Chloe 15:00:17
and we also teach students how to play around with the site
kjcl 15:00:23
Whaaat university students don't know what blogs are already??
eopXD 15:00:29
Nani!!! nowadays student don't know whats blog
eopXD 15:01:12
readers now are easily distracted
Chloe 15:01:20
readers often have a short span of attention,
Chloe 15:01:34
so the challenge is how to tell a compelling sotry
Chloe 15:01:38
to keep them reading
eopXD 15:01:50
how to catch their attention and deep dive into the topic definitely a part we need to work on
kjcl 15:02:17
Sometimes it feels like we're playing to the audience, and that can frsutrate traditional audiences
kjcl 15:02:21
so iit's a push-and-pull
kjcl 15:02:55
Q: Traditional media has a lot of division of labor. Should digital media go in that direction too?
kjcl 15:03:27
I think the thing is, people need to start envisioning the destination of their content as they'recreating it.
kjcl 15:03:35
So like "I'm writing this to be on a podcast", etc.
kjcl 15:03:39
That's the future.
kjcl 15:03:45
"Okay, that's time. Thanks everyone."
kjcl 15:03:48
*The gang applauds*
ckxpress 15:03:53
Bess: 3:00-3300 will be a break
kjcl 15:04:03
Next is shareout from Korean civic tech community
kjcl 15:06:21
Please remember to drink water
kjcl 15:31:41
Goood afternoon everyone
kjcl 15:31:56
I'm the hostf or this afternoon's evvents regarding various non-Mandarin Asian languages.
kjcl 15:32:10
We'll be hearing from Korean presenters, Taiwanese Amis, and more.
eopXD 15:32:31
Just a friendly reminder, please query in English
kjcl 15:32:34
Please ask presenters questions in English.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:32:40
大家好，我學了用韓文自我介紹，希望講對了
Chloe 15:33:07
他們是在韓國最活躍的開源社群的成員
Chloe 15:33:16
我們來歡迎他們！
kjcl 15:33:44
I think we're having audio issues
Chloe 15:34:19
請稍等
Chloe 15:34:29
（我們有一點技術問題）
kjcl 15:34:45
大家好
ckxpress 15:34:45
我們是 nullfull
ckxpress 15:34:51
我們會分享做過的事 怎樣去做
ckxpress 15:34:57
我是 Kim Seul 開發者 共同組織者
ckxpress 15:35:02
我是 Heeyawl 普通會發怒的人 最擅長發火
ckxpress 15:35:08
nullfull 是韓國的公民黑客組織
ckxpress 15:35:13
我們不知道自己是何時成立的
ckxpress 15:35:19
但大概是 2016 年吧
ckxpress 15:35:22
首先 讓我們介紹我們的各項專案
ckxpress 15:35:26
第一個是 F 三小好吃議會
ckxpress 15:35:30
它是一張地圖！
ckxpress 15:35:33
一張能找到國會議員使用各項費用的地圖
ckxpress 15:35:37
在韓國 我們有開放資訊法
ckxpress 15:35:40
全靠這條法案 人民可以向政府要求資訊....
ckxpress 15:35:46
理論上。
ckxpress 15:35:52
國會也負責把訊息向公眾公開 向這樣
ckxpress 15:35:56
然後 國會以圖像向公眾公開訊息
ckxpress 15:36:03
我認為這是他們的目的 讓電腦難以處理這些訊息
ckxpress 15:36:07
但是
ckxpress 15:36:13
圖中是 2016 年開放數據日的情況
ckxpress 15:36:17
我們合力把圖像輸入到電腦
ckxpress 15:36:27
成為電腦可以處理的格式
然後再製作成地圖
ckxpress 15:36:31
我們到訪議員曾到訪的各家餐廳
ckxpress 15:36:34
有點昂貴 可是非常好吃
ckxpress 15:36:38
最後製作成一個飲食地圖介紹大家去哪裡用餐
ckxpress 15:36:43
我們不斷到處試食各家餐館
ckxpress 15:36:47
都是很安靜私密的餐館
ckxpress 15:36:51
好讓我們議會的秘密能留在原處
ckxpress 15:36:57
第二個項目是南陽偵探
ckxpress 15:37:01
一度最大的奶品南陽 Gapjil
ckxpress 15:37:06
Gapjil 大意是是以手段濫用權力
ckxpress 15:37:09
Gapjil 很難翻譯 但我們相信這不是韓國獨有 而是世界性問題
ckxpress 15:37:14
我聽說台灣也有類似情況
ckxpress 15:37:21
因此 市民開始杯葛
ckxpress 15:37:26
圖中情況是本年較早時間
ckxpress 15:37:30
市民因為 COVID-19 恐慌 爭購食物
ckxpress 15:37:34
圖中可見，即使其他產品被搶購一空
ckxpress 15:37:39
南陽的產品還是沒人買
ckxpress 15:37:43
然後...
ckxpress 15:37:46
公司開始屏蔽標籤
ckxpress 15:37:52
比如貼上吸管、貼紙等
甚至把其中一家公司的名字修改
ckxpress 15:37:56
因此 我們幫助市民辨認南陽產品
ckxpress 15:38:00
我們製作了收集應用
ckxpress 15:38:05
只需要用它讀取產品的條碼
ckxpress 15:38:09
就會告訴你產品是否南陽的
ckxpress 15:38:12
怎麼好像慶祝的樣子！？ 🎉
ckxpress 15:38:16
因為 根據規定 禁止提交憎恨個別公司、個人或者產品的手機應用
ckxpress 15:38:21
所以我們製作出一個應用 來給「喜歡」南陽產品的人使用
ckxpress 15:38:25
因此有種慶祝的感覺
ckxpress 15:38:28
我們得到比南陽官方應用更高的評價
ckxpress 15:38:37
應用得到病毒式傳播
ckxpress 15:38:43
甚至在 Twitter 有 26,000+ 次轉推
ckxpress 15:38:47
我們甚至收到南陽的訊息
ckxpress 15:38:52
我們邀請他們參與我們的聚會
ckxpress 15:38:57
他們的確來的 很可惜不能替他們拍照
ckxpress 15:39:01
我們邀請他們一起吃薄餅 但他們拒絕了
ckxpress 15:39:08
我相信他們不喜歡夏威夷口味
ckxpress 15:39:18
怎麼會有人討厭夏威夷薄餅呢
ckxpress 15:39:25
我相信台灣人知道有多好吃
ckxpress 15:39:28
總之 他們不喜歡我們的應用 要求撤下
ckxpress 15:39:32
他們提供了文件 但文件是偽造的 只要一 Google 一分鐘就知道
ckxpress 15:39:37
我們告訴他 我們不能接受這意見 除非有真實證據
ckxpress 15:39:48
他們說一定會提供
ckxpress 15:39:53
但自從那天後 就沒再聽到他們消息
ckxpress 15:39:58
南陽 如果你看到這條短片 請跟我們聯繫
ckxpress 15:40:02
我們正耐心等候你
ckxpress 15:40:10
第三個項目是 Call21st
ckxpress 15:40:14
韓國的法院判決 這不是性侵
ckxpress 15:40:20
因為她跟他分享了食物
ckxpress 15:40:24
因為他給她買小吃
因為他只是把她綁起來但沒有揍她
ckxpress 15:40:29
這條例已經有 50 年沒被修改
ckxpress 15:40:35
因此我們建立的性侵案和其判決的數據庫
ckxpress 15:40:39
我們還在做 還未完全搞定
ckxpress 15:40:44
但我們向讓公眾知道 我們發現不少案例 情況跟剛剛說的差不多
ckxpress 15:40:48
國會選舉即將來臨
ckxpress 15:40:59
我們建了網站問候選人 會否修改這條法例
ckxpress 15:41:08
你們可以按地區或名字搜選你們的候選人 對他詢問
ckxpress 15:41:15
候選人可以電郵回覆
ckxpress 15:41:23
他們回應後，我們會把資訊貼在網站
ckxpress 15:41:29
我們問了 167,398 次 得到 206 個回應
ckxpress 15:41:34
當中 45 位候選人獲選
ckxpress 15:41:40
其中 14 位提出修訂 2 條性侵法案
ckxpress 15:41:43
議案還沒獲得通過 但我們不斷爭取
ckxpress 15:41:47
跟他們說 你們答應了
ckxpress 15:42:01
掌聲～～
ckxpress 15:42:08
然後是 YNNEWS
ckxpress 15:42:11
語境是 每當韓國媒體報導罪案
ckxpress 15:42:14
當受害人是女性 會強調受害人性別
ckxpress 15:42:17
當疑犯位女性 則會強調一番性別
ckxpress 15:42:22
如你看到 統計清楚顯示這個現象
ckxpress 15:42:29
女老闆 女教師 女警 比 男老闆 男教師 男警 更多使用
ckxpress 15:42:43
其次 媒體也會性侵案繪影繪聲
ckxpress 15:42:55
二次加害於受害者
ckxpress 15:43:01
在韓國 我們有 United News in Korean 機關
ckxpress 15:43:05
由納稅人的錢運營
ckxpress 15:43:09
工會宣布 我們會改變...
ckxpress 15:43:12
但卻並沒有真的改變
ckxpress 15:43:16
他們依然使用這種字眼
ckxpress 15:43:19
我們想改變這個情況
ckxpress 15:43:24
首先我們計畫了一個網站
ckxpress 15:43:27
提出了很多想法 但效果不彰
ckxpress 15:43:36
因此我們縮小計畫
ckxpress 15:43:42
開立 Twitter 帳號
ckxpress 15:43:46
每當他們用到不當字眼 我們發推
ckxpress 15:43:55
我們會 @ 媒體的官方帳號
ckxpress 15:43:59
但他們太害羞 不作回應
ckxpress 15:44:02
我們沒做到什麼改變
ckxpress 15:44:06
比預期的少很多
ckxpress 15:44:09
但我們肯定 他們現在更會注意用詞
ckxpress 15:44:17
除了不當用詞 還有圖片
ckxpress 15:44:22
看附圖 我們的稅款用來製作這些圖片，你能相信麽？
ckxpress 15:44:26
我們正開腦洞 思考怎樣改變這個情況
ckxpress 15:44:29
歡迎給我們提供意見
ckxpress 15:44:42
下一個項目是 Recharted
ckxpress 15:44:47
你能看出這個圖表的問題麽？
ckxpress 15:44:51
橙色的圖表長度翻倍了 而藍色的縮小了一半
ckxpress 15:44:56
這個呢? 是我們政府做的
ckxpress 15:45:07
他們覺得 2.1 比 2.8 高
ckxpress 15:45:11
這也是政府做的圖表
ckxpress 15:45:20
我們正字搜集誤導的圖表
ckxpress 15:45:25
並重新正確繪製
ckxpress 15:45:30
如下
ckxpress 15:45:34
或這樣
ckxpress 15:45:43
3.2 高於 2.0 正確的話，應該像右邊
ckxpress 15:45:58
我們不需要超級電腦 只要簡單工具
ckxpress 15:46:11
以上是我們做得怎樣，以下我們會分享一下怎樣執行
ckxpress 15:46:20
最重要的原則是 享受樂趣
ckxpress 15:46:29
比如說 我們很看重為專案取名 這是很重要的元素
ckxpress 15:46:48
取名可以由提案提出，但我們通常會由社群提出更多選擇
ckxpress 15:47:02
我們製作了一個網站顯示公共交通工具是否免費
ckxpress 15:47:19
雖然政策轉變 我們依然認真取名
ckxpress 15:47:31
得到很多選擇 最後把網站命名為
ckxpress 15:47:41
吃塵和免費乘車
ckxpress 15:47:47
我們也做了一個網站去偵察吃車的問題
ckxpress 15:47:50
要怎麼取名呢？
ckxpress 15:47:54
當然 組織的名字也沒有例外
ckxpress 15:48:03
取名時我們想瘋了 六個月也沒有名字
ckxpress 15:48:11
取得 nullfull 這個名字是個漫長的過程
ckxpress 15:48:17
選擇有很多 看這投影片
ckxpress 15:48:22
很久都沒法覺得 最後我們猜拳決定
ckxpress 15:48:25
最後
ckxpress 15:48:37
nullfull 勝出
ckxpress 15:48:41
最後 食物
ckxpress 15:48:45
薯條是社群的靈魂
ckxpress 15:48:48
很多人參與聚會 就是為了最後的薯條
ckxpress 15:48:53
我們聚會地點附近有好吃的薯條店
ckxpress 15:49:00
要不是附近有好吃的薯條 我們的聚會不會延續到今天
ckxpress 15:49:06
你可以看到 有食物跟沒食物的區別
ckxpress 15:49:14
我們吃
ckxpress 15:49:19
我們喝
我們又再吃
ckxpress 15:49:23
自從 COVID 後我們再沒法像以前般吃
ckxpress 15:49:26
希望盡快恢復正常
ckxpress 15:49:29
雖然沒食物那麼重要 但我們開展了很多專案
ckxpress 15:49:37
我們 200 個專案 Slack 頻道（呃 ~60 個才對）
ckxpress 15:49:48
但只有 17 個 Github 倉庫
ckxpress 15:49:51
比較少得到維護
ckxpress 15:49:54
但在部份專案沒法完成的前提下 我們還是不斷開展新專案
ckxpress 15:49:59
我們依然能學習
ckxpress 15:50:03
即使我們得不到太多進展 依然感到鼓舞
ckxpress 15:50:06
而且能讓更多人意識到問題
ckxpress 15:50:11
所以 我們不斷開展專案
ckxpress 15:50:15
和… 獲得樂趣
ckxpress 15:50:19
謝謝～～
eopXD 15:50:52
我必須說 nullfull 和 g0v 一樣充滿食物與歡樂
Chloe 15:50:54
在我們進入Q&A之前
Chloe 15:51:13
我想介紹一下講者：
eopXD 15:51:29
讓我們來看看 slido
eopXD 15:51:40
請問你們如何范播重新繪製之後的正確圖表
eopXD 15:52:02
這是在某一位參與的公司底下開始的
eopXD 15:52:27
其中一個 project 涉及去鑑別被錯誤視覺化的圖表
Chloe 15:52:31
我個人還有一個問題：
ckxpress 15:52:35
他得到本年的記者獎項
Chloe 15:52:50
我認為台灣和韓國的公民機制很不同：
Chloe 15:53:13
你可以談談這兩國之間公民機制最大的不同嗎
eopXD 15:53:18
為什麼你們的議員 會認真參考民眾的投書
ckxpress 15:54:27
他們回信，是因為他們是候選人
eopXD 15:54:32
在韓國其實 email 投書也不是很普遍
eopXD 15:54:37
但是他們是「民意代表」
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:55:00
nullfull跟g0v另外一個差別是
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:55:20
你們選一，兩個專案大家一起來做
ckxpress 15:55:24
g0v 有很多很多項目
eopXD 15:55:37
而大家可以在各項目之間自由參與
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:55:38
所以可以多多分享nullfull的運作模式嗎
ckxpress 15:56:01
首先 我們很小
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:56:03
首先，我們其實蠻少的
ckxpress 15:56:08
只有大概 200 人
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:56:12
不像g0v那麼大
ckxpress 15:56:14
— 相對 g0v 來說。
eopXD 15:56:25
人力有限的情況下能並行的 project 也相對少
Chloe 15:56:26
所以我們一次只能做一個project
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:56:27
通常我們就一個一個專案來做
Chloe 15:57:00
通常會有一個人發起想法 說服其他成員來做
eopXD 15:57:02
大家都可以提案，在這期間互相說服誰才是最好的
Chloe 15:57:26
所以我們的專案會有一點極端
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:57:26
這是為什麼我們專案看起來比較極端
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:57:41
因為讓大家感到憤怒，大家才會願意一起去完成
ckxpress 15:58:04
我們把這個成為憤怒專案
eopXD 15:58:12
社群在台日韓之間各有差異 希望我們之間可以多多交流
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:58:14
好像時間到了
Chloe 15:58:16
謝謝大家
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 15:58:17
感謝各位
Chloe 15:58:18
掰掰～
eopXD 15:58:20
❤️
eopXD 15:58:40
接下來是台語 session
eopXD 15:58:46
所以我接下來用台語講話
eopXD 15:58:48
先來介紹
eopXD 15:58:52
講者阿勇 阿滑
eopXD 15:59:13
阿滑英語台語客家語全部都通
eopXD 15:59:24
接下來討論社會語文的轉變與經驗
eopXD 15:59:29
請大家掌聲鼓勵～
eopXD 15:59:38
字幕 OAO
ronnywang 16:00:37
字幕？
eopXD 16:00:52
ㄉㄚㄍㄟ後
eopXD 16:01:09
先把口罩拉起來
eopXD 16:01:14
我個人想講的主題是
eopXD 16:01:20
台語的現代化
eopXD 16:01:28
語文的現代化與他的組成有很大的關係
eopXD 16:01:37
台語的文字目前發展到什麼程度
eopXD 16:01:43
請大家看這四個自
eopXD 16:01:45
古倫美亞
eopXD 16:01:50
這是什麼意思指導嗎
eopXD 16:02:01
這是日本時代的台灣唱片公司名字
eopXD 16:02:15
這是美國哥倫比亞的直譯ＸＤ
eopXD 16:02:20
你看快一百年前
eopXD 16:02:27
這是一百零三年前
eopXD 16:02:33
台灣出版的生物課本
eopXD 16:02:38
這是台南寫出來的生物課本喔
eopXD 16:02:46
你看 都是台語拼音OAO
eopXD 16:02:54
身體的普通構造
eopXD 16:03:05
你看這些台語甚至用羅馬字寫
eopXD 16:03:08
心臟
eopXD 16:03:10
肺臟
eopXD 16:03:13
五臟六腑
eopXD 16:03:15
胃 小腸
eopXD 16:03:19
每個都是台語發音的器官
eopXD 16:03:25
你看 台語的醫學課本
eopXD 16:03:37
台語這個語言其實可以作為文字系統
eopXD 16:03:39
記錄知識
eopXD 16:03:45
這是一張古早的報紙
eopXD 16:03:50
這是台南發行報紙
eopXD 16:03:59
報紙上說當年
eopXD 16:04:04
最大條的國際新聞
eopXD 16:04:09
但我唸出來你們應該懂
eopXD 16:04:32
天阿 Titantic!!!
eopXD 16:04:51
鐵達尼號用台語告訴大家 沉了⋯⋯
eopXD 16:04:56
我現在就是想跟大家說
eopXD 16:04:59
台語作為文字
eopXD 16:05:02
是完全沒問題的＠！
eopXD 16:05:08
這是以前人就做到的！
eopXD 16:05:16
這是以前的阿姨寫給他日本唸書的孫子
eopXD 16:05:25
叫她幫忙買把紙傘的公文
eopXD 16:05:47
這是以前用台語來幫忙宣傳羅馬叫的公文
eopXD 16:05:54
我現在要重新把台語文字化！！
eopXD 16:06:05
我們現在就是要彌補台語前人留下的洞
eopXD 16:06:09
台語的現代化這個主題
eopXD 16:06:18
我希望會說台語的大家
eopXD 16:06:22
潈自幾做初改變
eopXD 16:06:30
參與台語的現代化
eopXD 16:06:32
但是
eopXD 16:06:36
台語的失落
eopXD 16:06:44
是政府造成的艷變
eopXD 16:06:54
政府連帶造成了台語的失落
eopXD 16:07:06
而這樣的失落只有可能用政治的方式
eopXD 16:07:11
把它復甦回來
eopXD 16:07:15
但是這些現代的東東
eopXD 16:07:21
用台語都唸不出來
eopXD 16:07:26
因為台語失憶了！
Chloe 16:07:27
現在我的生活的網路
eopXD 16:07:43
這些物品 已經透過在現代成了新的台語
eopXD 16:07:52
可以在現代溝通現代才產生的名詞與概念
eopXD 16:08:01
請問這兩句話有人聽懂嗎
eopXD 16:08:05
有聽懂 siri 吧
eopXD 16:08:07
電信！
eopXD 16:08:09
email
eopXD 16:08:14
臉書 fb
eopXD 16:08:19
key 盤 鍵盤
eopXD 16:08:39
send 賞巴掌！！
eopXD 16:08:51
這些東東都是台語的現代化
eopXD 16:09:02
阿公阿罵聽不懂不代表這不是台語
eopXD 16:09:09
新思維台語
eopXD 16:09:14
是為了下一個世代而生的台語
eopXD 16:09:19
不是阿公阿罵的問題了
eopXD 16:09:25
是你我松子雖女的問題
eopXD 16:09:30
孫子孫女
Chloe 16:09:31
我有個朋友想嘗試全台語的生活
eopXD 16:09:42
大家來試看看
eopXD 16:09:46
台語聽講
eopXD 16:10:06
霜淇淋 台語照唸的話多沒意思
eopXD 16:10:15
不如照霜淇淋的形象
eopXD 16:10:22
講成 螺旋的冰
eopXD 16:10:25
你看
eopXD 16:10:29
就是冰淇淋了
eopXD 16:10:31
但是朋友抱怨
eopXD 16:10:35
這聽起來好難吃
eopXD 16:10:48
我要叫他 攏捲風冰！
eopXD 16:10:52
就是冰炫風 XDDDD
eopXD 16:11:09
你常常看到船夫都說
eopXD 16:11:13
那邊有水流
eopXD 16:11:15
就是水在轉
eopXD 16:11:18
你看水都可以轉了
eopXD 16:11:24
冰當然也可以轉
eopXD 16:11:44
那火龍捲要怎麼念
eopXD 16:11:48
我應該怎麼用台語表示
eopXD 16:11:56
我就叫做 螺旋火
eopXD 16:12:01
透過台灣人的思維
eopXD 16:12:05
台灣人的字庫
eopXD 16:12:13
這些詞的拼湊，可以組成新的概念
eopXD 16:12:15
新的詞彙
eopXD 16:12:18
還有多久
eopXD 16:12:21
我差不多了嗎 TAT
eopXD 16:12:28
最後想補充
eopXD 16:12:36
這樣誰都可以發明
eopXD 16:12:40
豈不是亂糟糟
eopXD 16:12:49
我該聽誰的
eopXD 16:13:00
以前橡皮擦大家都說什麼
eopXD 16:13:09
大家除了 擦仔
eopXD 16:13:17
都還有很多不同的說法
eopXD 16:13:23
以前大家說蘋果
eopXD 16:13:30
有人說 lingo
eopXD 16:13:41
不同的說法其實不錯阻礙語言的流通
eopXD 16:13:44
更是他活躍的證明！！！
eopXD 16:13:55
台灣人就是用到了這個概念
eopXD 16:14:02
用自己的語言
eopXD 16:14:07
去貼近這個概念
eopXD 16:14:15
拿鐵其實
eopXD 16:14:20
就是咖啡撞奶
eopXD 16:14:39
你如果點一杯飲料不知道台語怎麼說
eopXD 16:14:51
那這樣代表台語要去接受這個新的概念
eopXD 16:14:55
我鼓勵在座各位
eopXD 16:15:02
可以用台語發明新的詞
eopXD 16:15:07
讓台語有生命力
eopXD 16:15:10
多使用台語
eopXD 16:15:13
讓台語活起來
eopXD 16:15:30
拿鐵應該叫 力鐵
eopXD 16:15:38
我接下來盡量說台語
eopXD 16:15:44
剛剛提到台語的現代化
eopXD 16:15:46
我想說
eopXD 16:15:55
科技有如何幫助拯救台語
eopXD 16:16:00
現在大家用電腦，手機
eopXD 16:16:14
一起幫助台語的科技現代化現在到什麼程度
eopXD 16:16:35
字體 的台語要怎麼說
eopXD 16:16:52
應該叫做 「字骨」
eopXD 16:17:01
字典 台語概念來說
eopXD 16:17:09
可以唸作「書典」
eopXD 16:17:30
同義詞 同音詞
eopXD 16:17:44
台語沒有這方面的點擊
eopXD 16:17:48
典籍*
eopXD 16:17:57
台語還有很多現代化的空間
eopXD 16:18:10
台語需要屬於他的字體支援
eopXD 16:18:27
也一些符號專門來支援 台語發音
eopXD 16:18:38
這就是字體需要去幫助台語的
eopXD 16:18:44
擴充符號的支援
eopXD 16:18:56
不過這是需要一個標準化才可行
eopXD 16:19:10
台語的文字保持就未來來說還有標準化要努力
eopXD 16:19:26
去創造更多符號寫台語
eopXD 16:19:32
漢字其實很多模樣
eopXD 16:19:42
但是台灣漢字又跟正統漢字有點不同
eopXD 16:19:47
這是來自以前的歌詞譜
eopXD 16:19:57
描述歌詞的台語發音
eopXD 16:20:34
更嚴重的事現在台灣所通行的中文
eopXD 16:20:42
很少支援台語發音的漢字
eopXD 16:20:55
這些就是現行字體的缺陷
eopXD 16:20:58
不支援台語發音
eopXD 16:21:19
希望今天的大家或許可以考慮多來幫忙
eopXD 16:21:25
英文輸入法百百種
eopXD 16:21:31
怎麼台語輸入法只有一個
eopXD 16:21:49
現行通用只有三種
eopXD 16:21:56
雖然說他們不好用有點拍謝
eopXD 16:22:05
因為做的人不是大公司
eopXD 16:22:12
他們做的出來已經不簡單了
eopXD 16:22:18
但是你們真的用用看時
eopXD 16:22:27
你會發現這跟平常用的輸入法有很大的不ㄓㄨㄥˊ
eopXD 16:22:29
不同
eopXD 16:22:39
現在的鍵盤其實也導致了
eopXD 16:22:44
台語字典你不知道怎麼查
eopXD 16:22:49
你也無從查起
eopXD 16:22:56
總之
eopXD 16:22:59
台語現在很亂
eopXD 16:23:02
很難整理
eopXD 16:23:05
大家來幫忙 TAT
eopXD 16:23:11
有興趣！既然這是台南
eopXD 16:23:13
就來幫忙
eopXD 16:23:17
台語讚啦
eopXD 16:23:26
羅馬字要學
eopXD 16:23:34
要不然你根本不會查字典
eopXD 16:23:40
剛剛兩位的分享
eopXD 16:23:43
真的厲害
eopXD 16:23:45
我覺得很實用
eopXD 16:23:53
台語現在快死了
eopXD 16:23:57
真的需要你們幫助
eopXD 16:24:02
台文怎麼復興
eopXD 16:24:05
就你們來說
eopXD 16:24:11
時間關係 現在剩一個問題
eopXD 16:24:13
最重要的是
eopXD 16:24:18
台語的復興
eopXD 16:24:20
第一步是什麼
eopXD 16:24:33
我說過了
eopXD 16:24:37
每個人都可以幫忙
eopXD 16:24:43
大家根據自己的背景
eopXD 16:24:47
搞不好科技背景的人
eopXD 16:24:55
才知道台語怎麼描述科技的術語
eopXD 16:25:03
大家剛剛看到我念以前的文獻
eopXD 16:25:10
以前的台語根本就是 iphone
eopXD 16:25:14
最牛那種
eopXD 16:25:19
但現在基於現代教育
eopXD 16:25:24
台語也因此視為
eopXD 16:25:29
最好現在課以實行台語教育
eopXD 16:25:33
全台語國高中
eopXD 16:25:38
讓台語重新通行
eopXD 16:25:44
要識字！！！
eopXD 16:25:55
要有文字
eopXD 16:25:58
要就語言
eopXD 16:26:00
救
eopXD 16:26:03
就要有文字！！！
eopXD 16:26:20
要救語言 就要有文字！！！
eopXD 16:26:25
要救語言 就要有文字！！！
eopXD 16:26:30
不管哪一種
eopXD 16:26:31
要救語言 就要有文字！！！
eopXD 16:26:46
大家多多用手機查察台語字典
eopXD 16:26:55
搞不好就可以看到自己平常不會看到的字了
eopXD 16:27:04
那你有什麼實際建議讓大家進步自己的台語嗎
eopXD 16:27:09
因為你剛剛也提到了台語教育
eopXD 16:27:18
但是現在沒有很多線上的台語學習資源
eopXD 16:27:19
戲說台灣
eopXD 16:27:24
龍捲風
eopXD 16:27:26
霹靂火
eopXD 16:27:30
還有什麼資源嗎
eopXD 16:27:41
你在 appstore
eopXD 16:27:42
打
eopXD 16:27:50
phah taigi
eopXD 16:27:56
先載下來就對了
eopXD 16:27:59
再來慢慢的練習
eopXD 16:28:01
台語打字
eopXD 16:28:04
做就對了
eopXD 16:28:09
你就用最硬的方法
eopXD 16:28:12
一步步開始學台語
eopXD 16:28:15
學習台語打字
eopXD 16:28:23
只要有興趣
eopXD 16:28:27
你就會去接觸
eopXD 16:28:35
多多接觸台語 台語就在你身上活起來
eopXD 16:28:52
先跟大家藉個兩三分鐘
eopXD 16:28:59
我現在要用第四種語言
eopXD 16:29:01
來介紹
eopXD 16:29:23
我要帶台語教材
eopXD 16:29:27
我放在大海的另一端
eopXD 16:29:38
想要就來拿吧！
eopXD 16:29:42
在講台最前面～
eopXD 16:29:56
請大家來向我索取
kjcl 16:31:25
hi everyone
kjcl 16:31:29
I just changed the dress
kjcl 16:31:44
Just now we started with a greeting in Amis.
Chloe 16:31:49
hello everyone
kjcl 16:31:52
This is a phrase you'll commonlyhear in Amis.
kjcl 16:32:06
This next presentation will be in Amis.
kjcl 16:32:14
There will be Mandarin subtitles (and ENglish translations)
eopXD 16:32:15
later we will stay billingual on the ppt but we will present in Amis.
kjcl 16:32:16
(we'll try)
kjcl 16:32:35
We're reporting on the last 5 years of the Amis-Moedict project.
kjcl 16:32:50
2. Feedback from Amis community
kjcl 16:32:54
3. What's next for the project?
kjcl 16:33:02
Okkay, leut's start by detailing the last 5 years.
Chloe 16:33:10
from now on we’ll speak in Ami
kjcl 16:33:29
The first g[0v Hackathon, Miaoski proposed a Amis dictionary.
kjcl 16:33:34
Thus began the Amis project.
Chloe 16:33:36
and started the Amis dictionary projetted
kjcl 16:33:44
Miaoski means 'cat'.
eopXD 16:33:59
our friend started the project to save the language from extinction
kjcl 16:34:15
Through publicdomain dictionary
kjcl 16:34:17
we started the project.
kjcl 16:34:28
During the Sunflower revolution, and through the forces of civic participation
kjcl 16:34:32
Many participants began shownig up online.
eopXD 16:34:48
allowing the people to participate in this movement
kjcl 16:34:49
So we started to harness this civi participation force to OCR the dictionary.
kjcl 16:34:59
Within 53 hours, we had read 4855 words.
Chloe 16:34:59
within 53 hours, it completed recognizing 4855 phrases
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 16:35:22
From digitiation to website deisgn
kjcl 16:35:23
The process to digitize the dictionary
kjcl 16:35:30
The first version of the Amis-Moedict appeared
eopXD 16:35:40
we indexed every word and phrase
Chloe 16:35:46
it took about a month to finish
kjcl 16:35:48
We started building a JSON dictionary.
kjcl 16:36:10
Is there a more convenient searching method?
kjcl 16:36:17
Then let's use the specially deveolped AMis-Moedict app!
Chloe 16:36:21
what’s special about Amis dictionary is that
kjcl 16:36:29
Amis-moedict's -specialty is that it downloads the dictionary locally.
Chloe 16:36:32
it download the word file directly to the user base
kjcl 16:36:35
Because during then, internet wasn't cheap.
kjcl 16:36:45
We had to consider the constraints of rural broqadband access
kjcl 16:36:48
*broadband
kjcl 16:37:05
Deciding on an Amis Logi
kjcl 16:37:07
*Logo
Chloe 16:37:16
thats how it was born
kjcl 16:37:16
We needed to find a designer.
kjcl 16:37:21
Thus the Amis-Moedict logo was created.
kjcl 16:37:41
Then we asked Tsai Zhong Han Professor's Amis dictionary
Chloe 16:37:52
during that that time, lots of people asked about the website
Chloe 16:38:00
they all got declined
eopXD 16:38:08
this is a new challenge, since the provided file is in PD
eopXD 16:38:10
PDF*
kjcl 16:38:27
Professor Tsai agreed to give us 10 years worth of Amis dictionary
kjcl 16:38:58
Re-defining the purpose of Amis-Moedict.
eopXD 16:39:14
After Hsiao-Hsieh joined the team, we try to restructure the dictionary
kjcl 16:39:16
Miaoski began too busy at work, and during the 2016 g0v summit added 'Hsiao Hsieh' to the theam.
Chloe 16:39:19
ever since xiaoxie entered the team, we tehn started rethink the structure of the dictionary
eopXD 16:39:27
with better chinese indexing and searchability
kjcl 16:39:33
After they joined, we rethink the structure. We emphasized Mandarin searchability.
Chloe 16:39:43
to better understand Amis,
kjcl 16:39:45
Let's all learn Indigenous Languages together!
kjcl 16:39:57
To better understand Amis, we started using freee resources.
eopXD 16:40:02
At first Hsiao Hsieh don't even know Amis!
kjcl 16:40:07
In the beginning ,onl yMiaoski could speak Amis.
Chloe 16:40:17
then we all passed the Amis proficiency test!
kjcl 16:40:28
Gradually, we started advancing, beginner, intermediate, and we're taking the proficiency test tomorrow.
kjcl 16:40:51
We also have pronunciation guides!
kjcl 16:41:08
In May, 2017, othrough Sih Sing Hong's machine learning techniques, we created a pronunciation guidie
eopXD 16:41:08
the dictionary also provide vocal example on prounciations
kjcl 16:41:11
on Amis-Moedict.
kjcl 16:41:28
We started using Amis to give updates at g0v hackathons.
kjcl 16:41:41
In 2017, to get people used to the idea of speaking Amis, we started teaching people Amis at hackathons.
kjcl 16:41:46
Redesigning the UI of Amis
kjcl 16:41:48
Moedict
kjcl 16:41:58
In the 2017 g0v hackathon, we redesigned the UI of
kjcl 16:42:02
AMIS-Moedict withanew design
eopXD 16:42:13
now we are still searching for frontend framework that is suitable for the new MoeDict design
kjcl 16:42:39
A word a day's beginning
eopXD 16:42:45
Only partial functionality is available now because of current progress
kjcl 16:42:52
In 2018, we started teaching Amis vocabulary once a day.
kjcl 16:42:58
To allow participating people to learn with us!
eopXD 16:43:12
Daily Vocab helps you gets better everyday in Amis!!
kjcl 16:43:14
Simultaneous translation
kjcl 16:43:28
In 2019, we asked Tsai Zhong Han Professor to assist in translating President Ttsai's Taiwan Consensus.
Chloe 16:43:38
except from foriegn languages, we also translated the language of the aboriginal
kjcl 16:43:43
In addition to various country's language translations, it was availablein Amis.
kjcl 16:43:47
Thanks to Chihao for making the image graphic!
eopXD 16:44:00
aborinal basic law
kjcl 16:44:06
The Aboriginal Basic Law passed in 2005
Chloe 16:44:07
it is still unfamiliar to the taiwanese
kjcl 16:44:20
So we developed a Amis translation of the law.
kjcl 16:44:26
We asked Tsai Professor to provide Amis vocabulary.
kjcl 16:44:33
Professor Tsaia's dictionary update:
eopXD 16:44:37
We started a campaign to encourage people read the law in Amis
kjcl 16:44:49
Professor Tsai updated with 40,000 total, with 2000 more words.
eopXD 16:44:50
promoting and let everyone know the constitution of it
kjcl 16:45:05
For instance, we now have 2 ways of expressing 'likeness'
kjcl 16:45:10
where previously, only one existed.
kjcl 16:45:17
Part 2: Amis community response
Chloe 16:45:31
search engine optimization
kjcl 16:45:40
Because Amis is written i nromanizatio,n it's not very easy to search.
Chloe 16:46:00
so it’s not very accurate
kjcl 16:46:02
We decided to enable searching by mandarin words to provide clarity.
kjcl 16:46:29
We added Mandarin reminders in the search results
eopXD 16:46:36
betterfy the related work search recommendation system
eopXD 16:46:57
just like Google search, when you search for a phrase, it gives you bunch of related ones
kjcl 16:47:06
By providing more Mandarin context in the search results, we greatly enhanced the usability of the app
Chloe 16:47:22
originally, we didnt have Amis dictionary
kjcl 16:47:24
The official government run dicitonary slowly started to catchu p.
kjcl 16:47:39
Now there are 16 different language dictionaries for various Aboriginal nations
kjcl 16:47:52
Currrent Status ofthe Officcial Amis Government Dictionary:
kjcl 16:48:06
The table is a comparison of the official government dictionary and Amis-Moedict's definitoins.
kjcl 16:49:03
A lot of words had to be created wit the assistance of professors
eopXD 16:49:15
we need more help own continue support on the app
kjcl 16:49:18
With insufficient people power, the app is currently unable to be maintainde and progress
Chloe 16:49:21
the solutiion to is:
eopXD 16:49:30
thanks to Bull
kjcl 16:49:34
Because people have unlimited data,
kjcl 16:49:38
we gave up on a native mobile app
kjcl 16:49:45
Instead, we built a Progressive Web App in Cordova
Chloe 16:49:48
the next step”
kjcl 16:49:51
Part 3: The next steps of Amis-Moedict
Chloe 16:50:06
in terms of the foundation
kjcl 16:50:08
A rewrite in JS/CSS/HTML. We'll be asking for more engineer support in an upcoming g0v hackathon.
kjcl 16:50:25
Renewing the word bank, updating the dictionary
eopXD 16:50:31
To construct a backend, for Amis users and professors to improve the dictionary
kjcl 16:50:49
Web functionality -1
Chloe 16:50:50
Site feature #1
kjcl 16:50:58
New version is currently being designed.
eopXD 16:51:00
past coding style may be quite confusing
kjcl 16:51:03
We'll probablyrewrite in HTML/CSS/JavaScript
eopXD 16:51:09
we shall refactor the code in the new release
Chloe 16:51:14
to allow sharable link to show titles, pictures and description
kjcl 16:51:16
We'll make the links more shareable
kjcl 16:51:54
Web development part 2
kjcl 16:52:08
We twill improve the Progressive Web App functionality, and then repackage it as an iOS/Android app.
kjcl 16:52:22
We will move the pronunciation functionality to our own servers. Currently, pronunciation takes many seconds to play.
kjcl 16:52:29
And often it fails on longer sentences.
kjcl 16:52:57
Other Functionality:
kjcl 16:53:08
Platformize, allowing dfor other minority languages
kjcl 16:53:25
to quickly create their own dictionaries
Chloe 16:53:30
also to export the dictionay to EPUB/PDF ebook
eopXD 16:53:34
adding more dictionary index from others to ours, expanding our dictionary
kjcl 16:53:55
To add even more Aboriginal dictionaries.
kjcl 16:53:59
Thank you!
kjcl 16:54:17
Thank you all for listening to our presentation in Amis.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 16:54:24
We would like to introduce our special guest:
kjcl 16:54:25
We'll now invite Profsesor Tsai
kjcl 16:54:29
He is now 77
kjcl 16:54:38
and has been working on Amis documentation for a long time!
eopXD 16:54:53
many language are influenced of foreign culture
kjcl 16:54:55
Q: Lots of languages see cultural influence from others. How has Amis been influenced?
Chloe 16:55:04
Teh audience wants to know if there are any cases that you can share to us?
kjcl 16:55:15
A: Because Aboriginals didn't have a writing system, when it was developed, we used a lot of loanwords.
kjcl 16:55:28
For example, there are loan words from Taiwanese.
ckxpress 16:55:33
for example, this “loss”
kjcl 16:55:40
(Taiwanese Min Nan)
eopXD 16:55:42
foreign words are also absorbed into Amis
kjcl 16:55:54
To add a little more info, there is also vocab from Japanese.
eopXD 16:56:11
after the japan colonial era, many japanese text are also absorbed
kjcl 16:56:30
So, our questioner is correct. Amis has MANY loan words.
ckxpress 16:56:42
what else can be done?
kjcl 16:56:44
Next Question: What are the job opportunities for learning Aboriginal Languages?
Chloe 16:57:12
could you explain a bit what are some things that we can still work on?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 16:57:22
Actually, what we're doing at the moment is trying to preserve Amis language
kjcl 16:57:34
Apart from Professor Tsai's dictionary, we have other Amis dictionaries to import.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 16:57:42
But at the moment rhere aren't enough of us working on this at the moment
kjcl 16:57:43
We don't have enough volunteoers, so if you can help out, that would be greatly appreciated.
kjcl 16:57:58
(Translator apologizes, there was no discussion about job opportunities)
ckxpress 16:58:00
one, keep the language
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 16:58:02
So we're trying to first get the Amis dictionory form working, then we can use it for other languages
ckxpress 16:58:04
two, speak in it
kjcl 16:58:22
now I want to introduce the Amis clothing
eopXD 16:58:24
We urge everyone to start involve into the these precious languages
Chloe 16:58:30
for male
kjcl 16:58:31
You can see that men usually wear like me
kjcl 16:58:47
Men usually don't wear clothes while working.
Chloe 16:58:48
men usually go topless
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 16:58:49
The summer is so hot so men usually don't wear a shirt
kjcl 16:58:52
Women usually wear slightly more flamboyant clothing.
kjcl 16:59:01
Because I'm Han, I'll leave this discussion to the Amis speakers.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 16:59:10
This is north Amis, hualien style clothing
kjcl 16:59:18
In Taitung, you'll usually see Dulan-style clothing.
kjcl 16:59:36
You can see which family someone's part of through their clothing.
ckxpress 16:59:57
the Japanese gov’t made our clothing more fancy
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:00:30
So there are different groups of Amis people, and they have different clothing styles
kjcl 17:00:42
There are imagery depending on the geographical origins of the People
Chloe 17:00:44
thank you everyone!
kjcl 17:00:53
That concludes our presentation for today. Thank you everyone! (Aray!)
eopXD 17:01:00
the last part today~
kjcl 17:01:11
Ronny will present from Jothon
Chloe 17:01:13
the last section is about online hackaton worshop
kjcl 17:01:21
(We ❤️ Ronny)
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:01:50
Today we will share a tool we built callerd
kjcl 17:02:00
What is oonline Jothon?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:02:12
well tomorrow is a whole talk on this so I'll just say a little
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:02:17
today we'll focus on technical issues
kjcl 17:02:17
We'll expalin why tomorrow in a presentation. Today we will focus on the use of the tool.
kjcl 17:02:30
Raise your hands if you've participated in a g0v hackatho.n
kjcl 17:02:39
Now raise your hand if you've participated in the online g0v hack fromhome event.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:02:42
every 2 months there is a big hackathon
kjcl 17:02:48
Usually we have several hackathons as g0v, but this year, because of the Rona
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:02:50
but then covid so we tried to do an online hackathon
kjcl 17:02:54
we had to move to home hackathons.
kjcl 17:03:12
So we had to envision: What an online hackathon wolud look like?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:03:12
So we created a new workgroup called online jothon
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:03:18
so then there was online jothon
ckxpress 17:03:22
we mainly just jitsi
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:03:22
So the main tool is jitsi
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:03:27
how do we use it
kjcl 17:03:28
And we wanted to create online open source tools to make sure this process survives thisparticular moment.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:03:32
there are many reason why why use it
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:03:34
it is open source
kjcl 17:03:34
Jitsi Meet is open source.
kjcl 17:03:42
To enable open development .
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:03:46
its sourcecode is apache
kjcl 17:03:47
g0v cares a lot about using OSS
kjcl 17:03:57
Its license is Apache.
kjcl 17:04:08
Putting it online is very easy.
Chloe 17:04:16
if you just follow the steps here
kjcl 17:04:19
You can use a T1 Micro (the cheapest Amazon tier), to build a Jitsi instance.
ckxpress 17:04:19
it’s easy to set up your own server
kjcl 17:04:23
It costs maybe 300NTD a month.
kjcl 17:04:34
The PDIS version is created by AUdrey Tang
kjcl 17:04:41
And is now used by many ggovernment officials to meet.
kjcl 17:04:46
Jothon built a Jitsi instance
kjcl 17:04:50
And g0v now uses it.
ckxpress 17:05:06
it’s easy to create a meeting room too
kjcl 17:05:09
To meet, you go to the jitsi website, create a string of English words, and everyone can join.
kjcl 17:05:20
So I'll now demonstrate.
kjcl 17:05:30
See, that's all it takes. No account registration anywhere.
kjcl 17:05:40
See, because the English string I chose was simple, there was already people in it.
kjcl 17:05:51
So I basically zoombombed some folsk.
kjcl 17:05:54
folks.
ckxpress 17:06:00
the meeting room can also be generated randomly
kjcl 17:06:18
But there's a bug, if we created a Jitsi in the same time with the same words, we'll end up in the same meeting.
kjcl 17:06:27
So for safety reasons, make sure to randomize the generated string in some way.
kjcl 17:06:31
Also, Jitsi has an app.
kjcl 17:06:36
It supports ALL jitsi instances.
kjcl 17:06:43
Why will we use Jitsi?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:06:45
So this is why we use jisti
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:06:51
so what did we do with jitsi
kjcl 17:06:55
Next, we now use 2D jothon
kjcl 17:07:03
which is an online RPG-style interfface
kjcl 17:07:12
but when you reach one another, you're given the option to enter a Jitsi room.
kjcl 17:07:28
All we've done is made Jitsi meetings generated randomly when we interact with each other in a virtual 2D RPG space.
kjcl 17:07:37
Ooof
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:07:50
we opened two chat rooms at the same time
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:07:52
so echo echo echo
kjcl 17:08:00
~~~feedback~~~
kjcl 17:08:12
Pls no two devices on the same meeting in the same room.
kjcl 17:08:34
We used 2D Jothon for Professor Chen's funeral this year.
kjcl 17:08:53
A big contributor to Taiwan's OSS movement, we were able to hold space and remmeber him even when the virus prevented us from meeting.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:09:01
At the beginning, we only were gonna use jitsi for self intros
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:09:11
we werent gonna use it for the whole hackathon
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:09:34
but then the online hackathon was actually p successsful
kjcl 17:09:41
Because the online hackathon worked well, other organizations appproached jothon and were like 'sup pls help us'
kjcl 17:10:10
and to assist other organizations, we built 'picture dividing assistant'
kjcl 17:10:27
later you can try this out for yourselves.
kjcl 17:10:32
let me show youwhat this room looks like right now.
kjcl 17:10:35
swoooop
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:10:44
There are currently four robots in this room
kjcl 17:10:57
What this does is it tells you who's in a room right now.
kjcl 17:11:15
It will dig out a given user's video feed(?)
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:11:17
And it can help you to individually select and highlight a user in the room
kjcl 17:11:23
^^what he said
kjcl 17:11:58
You can also build image backgrounds/overlays over a Jitsi call.
ckxpress 17:12:13
and cut a few blackboxes
kjcl 17:12:15
With these backgrounds, we can build a professional background for your meeting.
ckxpress 17:12:35
and feed the boxes with images from different sources
kjcl 17:12:49
We have technical difficulties sorry
kjcl 17:13:06
So we just described the 'image division assistant'.
kjcl 17:13:15
Then, the Presidential Office approached us!
kjcl 17:13:21
They wanted to make a Presidential Offic eHackathon.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:13:22
they wanna do presendietal hackathon
kjcl 17:13:25
They didn't want to broadcast to Youtube
kjcl 17:13:43
So we used the same Jitsi backend, but we built Image Division Assistant 2.0
kjcl 17:13:51
We'll show you what it looks like
kjcl 17:14:05
So there's a big display in the hackathon.
kjcl 17:14:12
And there's 24 different teams in the hackathon.
kjcl 17:14:20
Because of the Rona, each 24 teams was in a different room.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:14:22
At that time because of coivd we had to have each team in a different room
kjcl 17:14:57
What you see r right now is Image Divison Assistant 2
kjcl 17:14:58
at work
kjcl 17:15:16
We are sharing our learnings in this hackmd.
kjcl 17:15:28
I won't talk about that here today. You can go to our talk tomorrow.
kjcl 17:15:37
Oukay, let's go back to the main point of today's talk.
kjcl 17:15:55
We found out that Image Division Assistant's name didn't describe its full feature set.
kjcl 17:16:00
So we renamed it "Jothon, Jitsi+"
kjcl 17:16:05
A superset of features for Jitsi.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:16:10
We wanna teach u how to use irt
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:16:12
it
kjcl 17:16:19
Hi, I'm Renqiang from Jothon
kjcl 17:16:28
Okay I'm going to describe using this tool.
kjcl 17:16:39
I'll share the address soon and you can try it out.
kjcl 17:16:50
Reminder: Only computer usage rn. Not smartphones.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:16:59
WHen u enter the jiiujijia website
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:17:06
You will see this screen
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:17:14
thank u to the g0v community for building this
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:17:29
it makes u enter a meeting room code
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:17:41
u can choose ur password
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:17:57
This is the link
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:18:14
so you can go search it now
kjcl 17:18:24
giving you a little time to go to the website.
kjcl 17:18:37
Okay, after you set the names, we take you to the tool.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:18:40
so once you enter, you will see a screen like this
kjcl 17:18:52
There's the preview in the middle, the background chooser in the right.
kjcl 17:19:00
ou first choose a background.
kjcl 17:19:04
*you
kjcl 17:19:12
All backgrounds are written in HTML/JS
kjcl 17:19:23
So any coder can help make this even better.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:19:47
there is a button that lets you directly alter the html
kjcl 17:21:01
Because there are many functionalities, we will just do a live demo
kjcl 17:21:20
You can use these two links to follow us.
kjcl 17:21:23
*follow along.
kjcl 17:21:37
We've already placed three Robot gifs in there.
kjcl 17:21:42
Here we go to g0vdemo1
kjcl 17:21:51
We name the bot.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:21:53
Now we're in
kjcl 17:22:05
You press the hamburger on the left to see who else is a member.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:22:09
There is a button on the left that lets you access details
kjcl 17:22:21
You can jump directly to the Jitsi meeting.
kjcl 17:22:54
So now I can directly edit the hTML.
kjcl 17:23:02
Currently it has a video box with a username tag inside the video box.
kjcl 17:23:58
For some reason, the robots aren't showing up.
kjcl 17:24:07
That's fine. We'll add our own webcam.
ckxpress 17:24:17
say you can turn on your cam
kjcl 17:24:32
Do we have a second user to try it out?
kjcl 17:24:54
YOU can be part of our live demo! (Yes! You!)
ckxpress 17:25:11
(shit happens at live demo 🙂
ckxpress 17:25:37
so now, user 2
kjcl 17:25:48
Now we divide up the demo into quarters.
kjcl 17:25:53
At most you can have 16 users.
ckxpress 17:26:05
picked automatically
ckxpress 17:26:15
(feedback…)
kjcl 17:26:15
Okay and that's that
kjcl 17:26:34
So if you have two users, you can create a quartered screen and remove two.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:26:55
So you can choose which users to display
ckxpress 17:26:59
and the second one is ronny
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:27:05
(the second is ronny)
ckxpress 17:27:06
3… 4.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:27:22
the important tool is the pop up windows
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:27:39
You can pull one of the windows into a seperate window
ckxpress 17:27:42
you might have realized in version 1, the main feature is to display a window
kjcl 17:27:57
recently we've found there's a difference between macOS and Windows.
kjcl 17:28:33
Because Jitsi uses Chrome to develop, Edge and Chrome are supported browsers.
kjcl 17:28:51
Okay, the other important feature we used at the Presidential Hackathon is the Viewer Tool.
kjcl 17:29:17
In order to make sure that 24 different teams could see the same image, we created a viewer functionality.
kjcl 17:29:38
If you click on the Viewer URL, you'll get a viewer screen. Feel free to share it.
kjcl 17:29:46
I'll demo it now. Hopefully it doesn't fail catastrophically.
kjcl 17:29:57
Okay, so you enter the room credentialshere.
kjcl 17:30:10
So it shows "No image here"
kjcl 17:30:21
That's because I haven't pushed any image from JJJ+
kjcl 17:30:33
So I press 'push', and the image is sent to the viewer URL
kjcl 17:30:44
So if this is another computer, it'lll now see the viewer functionality.
kjcl 17:31:08
A viewer can now turn on the sound, lettting the meeting MC control audio.
kjcl 17:31:30
So that concludes our funcctionality intro.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:31:31
So those are the features of the tool
kjcl 17:32:22
Because the theme of discussion is' Temporary Classroom', we think about the applications of this tool to classrooms.
kjcl 17:32:31
A teacher can use this tool to focus on certain students and lead a classroom discussion.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:32:32
So it turns out, jiujijia can be used for online classes
ckxpress 17:32:37
say if user 1 2 3 are students
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:32:46
Teachers can set up a one-user screen
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:32:57
and then they can share their screen with the students
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:33:02
and then select themselves
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:33:06
For those students
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:33:14
what they will see is what the teacher wants them to see
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:33:26
and teachers can then also ask students to open their mic or camer
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:33:38
So there are tools to let them see the students
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:33:45
so it's a good tool for educational uses
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:33:54
It's an online tool
kjcl 17:34:00
It's open sourced with BSD license.
kjcl 17:34:06
You have creative freedom to do whatever do it.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:34:08
Youcan edit it as u like
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:34:15
Any questions please ask us
kjcl 17:34:16
Please give us any feedback!
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:34:26
so now you can give it a try !
kjcl 17:34:27
So with the remaining time we'd love to have you try out this tool.
Chloe 17:34:27
so for those who have laptops with you
Chloe 17:34:35
feel free to give this a try!
ckxpress 17:34:40
if you bump into any issues, we’ll come to help
Chloe 17:34:54
we hope that you guys get familiar with this tool
Chloe 17:34:58
and hopefully get to apply this
Chloe 17:35:07
if you have any questions
Chloe 17:35:17
also feel free to put it on slido
kjcl 17:35:24
If you have any questions, not just of the tool, suggestions, etc. ask on slido
kjcl 17:35:56
Someone asked if we'll upstream these changes to Jitsi
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:35:57
do we wanna give this tool to jitsi? yeah
Chloe 17:36:00
we hope thered be more real life applicaions
kjcl 17:36:08
We do, but we want to perfect our uses of it first.
Chloe 17:36:10
that’s also why we hold this workshop today
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:36:19
questions? thoughts? ideas?
Chloe 17:36:20
anyone has any thoughs on this?
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:36:33
ok if not then let's practise
kjcl 17:36:34
Okay, now we enter the practice portion.
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:36:37
go to jiujijia
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:36:49
let's go practise
Chloe 17:36:50
maybe something will come up as we go
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:37:25
echo
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:37:40
turn off mic to stop the ehco
kjcl 17:37:40
Please mute if you're trying this out
kjcl 17:37:44
No feedback pls
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:37:49
pls
kjcl 17:38:05
(No wait feedback is great, just like feedback as in, suggestions, not feedback as in SCREEEEECH)
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:46:37
像這樣
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:46:45
字會出現
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:46:49
不錯吧
Chloe 17:47:01
讚讚
kjcl 17:47:03
Hi Ronny
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Chloe 17:47:10
bye ronny
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Chloe 17:47:21
Oh hi mark
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:47:28
Do we need to translate this
oliver8043168 17:47:28
🤣
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:47:40
We are talking about translation
oliver8043168 17:47:44
HelloWorld
Chloe 17:47:53
print()
Chloe 17:48:02
hhhhhhhhhh
oliver8043168 17:48:03
When you type, the subtitle will show up here
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:48:05
This is bullet mode
Chloe 17:48:07
ayeeeeeee
Chloe 17:48:19
soo opppppp
oliver8043168 17:48:22
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
ckxpress 17:48:27
Free Hong Kong
Chloe 17:48:59
crtl c crtl v
```yyp```
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:49:29
A lot of tools we use were already in jitsi
oliver8043168 17:49:31
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ckxpress 17:50:08
Say if there are 20 students
Chloe 17:50:17
another thins is that
Chloe 17:50:22
currently as we strea
Chloe 17:50:24
stream*
ckxpress 17:50:36
One of the most important feature is
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:50:44
Another tool is that jiujijia can make sure that
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:50:54
What happens in chat room stays in chat room
Chloe 17:51:01
which is very crucial for online meetins
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:51:28
Time is up pretty much
Chloe 17:51:31
now we’re approaching the end
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:51:34
Last Q and A time
ckxpress 17:51:35
So that nose is filtered
Chloe 17:51:39
time for Q&A
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:51:42
Slack
Chloe 17:51:47
yes slack
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:51:49
#jothon
Chloe 17:51:53
discuss there
Sam 羅翔鈞 ㄙㄚㄇ 17:52:09
Is there a microphone
oliver8043168 17:52:38
感謝導播 tmonk
Chloe 17:52:44
thank you everyone!!
oliver8043168 17:53:18
感謝找地種樹 Chewei
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chihao 23:36:24
深夜翻譯 pa
chihao 23:36:29
不對
chihao 23:36:36
不是該休息了嗎

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