#vnyc
2017-11-01
okay I'm in... I think.
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2017-11-03
Hi folks. I need a description for the session ASAP. I've written the below (using some text from Liz's Civicist article) as a place holder and for internal use of the organizers to hold a spot for us.
@devin you’ll have it tomorrow. promise
2017-11-04
Great thx
hackmd.io 
works?
let us know
Yes I like it. I'd recommend making the title and first paragraph more specific so it stick better in people's heads.
I bet there'll be a lot of general sounding stuff so best to stand out imho.
Will do. Thanks! We'll change around and let you know
2017-11-06
@itsmisscs ^^
I like it. My recommended edit to title and summary is here below. Happy to post whatever you like:
Title: Open source as a framework for building high performing healthy organizations and vibrant democracies
Taiwanese society has leveraged open source tools and methodologies to implement transparency, participation, and collaboration, across, within and between government and civil society. The open collaboration across all sections of Taiwan society has resulted in the development of impressive open source tools, processes for civic participation, new media infrastructure and online democracy. Taiwan’s experiments in enacting a responsible, deliberative, direct democracy offer a positive and practical vision for the future of government.
Drawing from Taiwan’s experiments, we will explore ways in which the spirit of open source can be used to build organizations of openness and transparency, collaboration, trust, self-organization and distributed responsibility.
Taiwanese society has leveraged open source tools and methodologies to implement transparency, participation, and collaboration, across, within and between government and civil society. The open collaboration across all sections of Taiwan society has resulted in the development of impressive open source tools, processes for civic participation, new media infrastructure and online democracy. Taiwan’s experiments in enacting a responsible, deliberative, direct democracy offer a positive and practical vision for the future of government.
Drawing from Taiwan’s experiments, we will explore ways in which the spirit of open source can be used to build organizations of openness and transparency, collaboration, trust, self-organization and distributed responsibility.
happy to follow your comments! you know this conference…
you should go ahead and send whenever
thanks for taking a look!
(hi!)
(Just getting back to the world after Public Lab's annual Barnraising in the Louisiana wetlands)
(Just getting back to the world after Public Lab's annual Barnraising in the Louisiana wetlands)
2017-11-07
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@lizbarry you do the most exciting things. I want to come raise barns with you some time!
Haha yes you have to!
Can’t take that back Liz Barry. I’m packing my bags.
Haha yes you have to!
Can’t take that back Liz Barry. I’m packing my bags.
2017-11-10
are there notes i should read now that i'm back in NYC?
2017-11-13
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2017-11-14
@lizbarry @patcon brainstorming from last night http://soul.compositescollective.com/t/collaborative-brainstorming-with-liz-barry-and-patcon/109
Composites Collective
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cool!
Welcome back liz. Currently CS and DZN are doing two sessions at Open Camps - one Taiwan related and then they're helping with BetaNYC's People's Roadmap too. Maybe you should discuss with them if you'll join the Taiwan session. And then let me know what is decided. If you're going to be a panelist/participant then I'm supposed to pass your info on to the Open Camps point person.
Hey everyone, I got invited into this channel by @patcon. Gonna do some reading up on what you're doing, but I'm from a municipalist movement here in Toronto called Our Toronto. We're super eager to connect with others doing stuff similar to vTaiwan or Barcelona En Comu
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2017-11-17
@nahum.mann welcome!! Sorry for late response. I’m part of the Composites Collective team. Researching interesting happenings at Taiwan and other places and testing stuff out in NYC.
2017-11-20
FYI Save the Date: Participate in BetaNYC's People's Roadmap Next event: December 7, 7pm at Civic Hall, co-facilitated by @darshana and @itsmisscs
2017-11-21
MIT Media Lab
MIT Media Lab&nbsp; Mobility++&nbsp; Workshop【多元運輸】工作坊2017&nbsp; 11月28日～30日&nbsp;In celebration of the launch of City Science Lab @ TaipeiTechAbout&nbsp; MI...
And here's a list of organizations in NYC there made political endorsements and night be interested in supporting/collaborating on participatory stuff. http://endorsements.votedevin.com/type_Political%20Organizations
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2017-11-22
hey vNYC, i'm looking into an easy/fun geographic survey to send out to the #general-en channel to find out more of where people in this channel are in terms of where to hold a training. Either that or we could make it simpler "For a facilitator training in 2018, would you potentially be able to travel to:
a. Toronto
b. New York City
c. other ____________
Please share any decision-making factors regarding potential travel here _______________"
a. Toronto
b. New York City
c. other ____________
Please share any decision-making factors regarding potential travel here _______________"
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survey would be super useful. also, lets start talking about how to get money for this!!
super super excited to get this piece going 🙂 🙂
could be nice to gather where people currently are as a touch point, too
2017-11-23
survey would be super useful. also, lets start talking about how to get money for this!!
super super excited to get this piece going 🙂 🙂
@darshana commented on @devin’s file IMG_20171119_184928221.jpg: what a terrible picture
@darshana commented on @devin’s file IMG_20171119_184928221.jpg: not the company, just the picture
@darshana commented on @devin’s file IMG_20171119_184928221.jpg: company is at the other end of that spectrum
only other decent one
2017-11-26
@itsmisscs commented on @devin’s file IMG_20171119_184928221.jpg: speak for yourself 😛 i think they are wonderful captures of fond memories
@patcon for all we try to move you to nyc, canada gov is far ahead of us. exciting news stirring in metapolis
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Haha and its funny, bc I've always focussed on city level gov, thinking it would move quicker, but then fed and prov are running with stuff ;)
2017-11-28
Polis in Decidim. Looking good! https://github.com/decidim/decidim/issues/2079
GitHub
This is a Feature we are working on I told @josepjaume I'd create an issue and document our progress. :tophat: Description About <http://Pol.is|Pol.is> We are building a <http://pol.is|pol.is> feature on Decidim. <http://Pol.is|Pol.is> is open source i...
Wooooo! This is currently my favourite issue on github! I regret that I have but one `🎉` to give
Anyone want to go to this with me tonight? I have an extra ticket. --> https://civichall.org/events/franklin-foer-conversation-zephyr-teachout/
Civic Hall
Come join the conversation this week with Franklin Foer and Zephyr Teachout about Foer's new book, World Without Mind: The Existential Threat of Big Tech.
How was it? Did it make any new thinks happen?
I wish. Too much stuff though
I will be waiting for my mom and completing my writing bit for Civicist.
2017-11-30
Replied to a thread: 2017-11-28 04:55:32
Wooooo! This is currently my favourite issue on github! I regret that I have but one `🎉` to give
How was it? Did it make any new thinks happen?
In case y'all know anyone looking: https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/off/d/desk-in-shared-creative/6400800081.html
in a weird, but not entirely unexpected turn of events, if y’all have been paying attention to the project veritas/washington post thing, jaime was definitely targeting/trolling spaces that are adjacent to all y’all http://snaps.bernardyu.com/3g1P3J242I12
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i’m not following this. can you provide a bit more context?
project veritas is the group ran by James O’Keefe that tried to run a sting operation on Washington Post. http://washingtonpost.com/investigations/womans-effort-to-infiltrate-the-washington-post-dates-back-months/2017/11/29/ce95e01a-d51e-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html?utm_term=.e2953805dcc3
before trying to run the moore sting, Jaime spent months going to journalism+tech meetups in NY and DC
and they went far enough afield to make me suspect that they looked at the civic tech and women in tech spaces in both cities
interesting. thx cordelia!
related: i always thought conservatives were likely to fail the _ideological turing test_, but she apparently passed... http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/06/the_ideological.html
tl;dr. the test is a suggestion that two competing ideologies can be judged against one another based on whether followers of one can understand the other well enough to simulate them -- they have a theory of mind for the opposing ideology that is not distorted, ie they understand the other side enough to mimic it, but still reject it based on that full, unbiased understanding.
related: i always thought conservatives were likely to fail the _ideological turing test_, but she apparently passed... http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/06/the_ideological.html
tl;dr. the test is a suggestion that two competing ideologies can be judged against one another based on whether followers of one can understand the other well enough to simulate them -- they have a theory of mind for the opposing ideology that is not distorted, ie they understand the other side enough to mimic it, but still reject it based on that full, unbiased understanding.
heh…she really didn’t. folks p immediately were creeped out
Yay! My previous beliefs are revalidated through a non-primary source! (no further questions! Premise accepted!)
i’m not following this. can you provide a bit more context?
project veritas is the group ran by James O’Keefe that tried to run a sting operation on Washington Post. http://washingtonpost.com/investigations/womans-effort-to-infiltrate-the-washington-post-dates-back-months/2017/11/29/ce95e01a-d51e-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html?utm_term=.e2953805dcc3
Washington Post
Jaime Phillips’s sustained attempt to insinuate herself into reporters’ social circles makes clear that the efforts to discredit The Post went much further than trying to plant one fabricated article.
before trying to run the moore sting, Jaime spent months going to journalism+tech meetups in NY and DC
and they went far enough afield to make me suspect that they looked at the civic tech and women in tech spaces in both cities