#vnyc
2017-09-02
Thanks for the update. It's pretty amazing that there is no central repo of candidate forums. The NYCCFB certainly has the staff/resources to make something like that happen.
From my side - I give myself a 90+% chance of getting on the ballot. It'll be official Sept 6.
@devin NYCCFB couldn’t even keep their site up
it’s pretty abysmal…twitter has proven to be the best bet for finding them
@devin we would love to interview you for the platform!!
make that 90%, 100%
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all good lessons. we are more equipped for the next run in 4 years.
yeah. lots and lots of fodder for the big push
Yes I'm here. Was pretty sure I wasn't going to make it over the last two weeks so stopped moving forward on a few campaign related things but now that it's looking like it's happening I'm spinning my operations back up.
I'm happy to play along with whatever you have cooking.
Excellent!!
(on the playing along aka joining forces)
What do you need for the last 10%
not to get sued by anyone by Sept 5.
It's a whole process.
Phase 1: BoE looks to see how many pages you have and if its plausable you have enough signatures.
if you don't they knock you off the ballot.
Phase 2: Anyone can inspect the petitions and they can "object" to candidates.
Objecting is the first step for a challenge. They objected to me.
They = a GOP lawyer.
Once they object they have a certain amount of time to file a "specification" for their objection.
damn. what was the objection
ah. that hasn’t come yet then
the specifics
The specification outlines all the signatures they think aren't valid.
So they have to sit there and be like, "volume 1345345, page 23, signatures 3 and 4 aren't valid addresses"
They have a limited time to do that. And their time expired. So now I'm cool.
that is good
BUT they could also sue in state court on grounds I don't really know
Their window to do that closes Sept 5.
But that's I think a lot harder so if they didn't go through with the challenge then we're probably all good.
But it's worth my keeping a low profile until after Sept 5. So no press releases or anything like that until after.
Whaaaa. is this some BS to prevent you from running basically? Are they only targeting you?
no its just the game
I mean - yes it's just the game
they knock off people all the time
if you want to be "challenge" proof you need to get 2x the signatures you really need
the shit that goes down at the local level is disgusting
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definitely worth it to play safe
The New York Times
The New Kings Democrats, formed in 2008, continue to lobby for reform with the Democratic Party and to engage more of the community.
why I don't roll with the dems
parties at the local level is another one of the shams
i’m reading the article now…
so silly to break it down to 2 parties in city politics
its a pretty comprehensive system of control
totally
and of money laundering
but! it has points of failure
definitely hope we find those
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2017-09-05
@patcon or someone can you add a link to an example document with "fact" "feeling" "idea" structure? i want to use it for something
2017-09-06
Just on the move right now, but def when I'm back at comply!
@lizbarry ok, so this was the sample one I was preparing for CivicTechToronto, but haven't been around the city long enough to introduce it and steward it through the whole process: https://hackmd.io/EwNgrAxgDFCmIFoQgOwA4EBYCMwAmCaI2ARggIYpTawCceYIRYQA# (explicitly intended to share hackmd's "edit" link, as opposed to static "publish" one, to lean a bit more toward encouraging contribution)
this is the pol.is convo: https://pol.is/68zyhrmyzb (i didn't intend to link it from the doc before phase 2, so as not to intimidate people who don't yet know polis. Seemed simpler to ask people to dump some things in a doc, and then pol.is will later be filled with lots of things they're already familiar with, and so I thought it would be more likely to garner a favourable opinion of the tool, because it's already set up and ready to participate on via simple voting)
this is the pol.is convo: https://pol.is/68zyhrmyzb (i didn't intend to link it from the doc before phase 2, so as not to intimidate people who don't yet know polis. Seemed simpler to ask people to dump some things in a doc, and then pol.is will later be filled with lots of things they're already familiar with, and so I thought it would be more likely to garner a favourable opinion of the tool, because it's already set up and ready to participate on via simple voting)
hackmd.io 
pol.is
This is a space to express any feelings related to this decision. ### How to Vote * If you're unsure, or think it’s a badly written comment, just PASS. ### How to Comment * Please view all existing comments before adding new ones. * Please click “Share your perspective…” to add your comments. * Comments should strive to be about feelings and subjective beliefs, not necessarily facts – please try to start comments with “I feel...
would you consider making this a more general document about this phased process?
in retrospect, might make sense to ensure the question is the same for both.
@patcon when is CivicTechTO?
I'm late! but every tuesday 🙂
i have NOT been checking this slack enough, but that was so wonderful of you to offer @itsmisscs! bummer that I was occupied with other things and not minding this place 😉
so are you there already??? EXCITEMENT
heh. super later, but the pittsburgh toDC trek was almost purely on decommissioned rail paths and then the tow lane alongside some canal from the 19th century! so much nature! barely any highways! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5/5
so basically what I'm saying is that you should TOTALLY do it someday.
Hi <!channel>. Do you have ideas about what we could do to help the homeless? Please let me know by responding to and posting statements on NYSpeaks. 😉 https://www.nyspeaks.org/conversations/help-the-homeless/ Also - meta feedback would be amazing. Thanks!!
NYSpeaks
This conversation is active. Share how you feel about this topics by agreeing or disagreeing with the statements below. If you want to add statements to this topic, read “How to Post Statemen…
i voted and added another statement
We are taking off friday morning. so very exciting!!! and we are seeing liz tomorrow night ❤️
yay Liz thanks
I also voted
Following Devin’s lead, if you haven’t taken the housing survey <!channel>, we’d love to hear from you: http://talkto.nyc/survey/nyc-housing/. Getting some interesting opinion groups!
talkto.nyc
This survey is designed to ask citizens about their personal concerns regarding the NYC housing crisis.
I voted too and added a statement
Hmm I'm planning to do a housing one too. Is there any way we could combine forces?
I want to do a criminal justice one too, and transit. I think 5 is more than enough for this election cycle.
let’s do that!! embed the ones we have on nyspeaks? We have 21 people for housing and 4 for the transportation one
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the transportation one was made with Mary Silver, Council Candidate District 2
cool lady
big on participatory models
👉🌟🔥🌟👈
lol. I like that Liz. I will memorize
👌🏾👌🏾
@devin the repo is public with the embed code. we are adding the transportation survey tonight on talkto.nyc but it is live on Mary’s page already.
would be great to join forces on those two since we’ve got them started. also, would be neat to show how to candidates in the race are using polis 🙂
we’d be happy to promote your homeless and criminal justice ones
Mary’s page with pol.is — http://www.marysilvernyc.com/transportation3
Mary Silver for Council 
with a linkback to nyc speak
Also, would be great to interview you. We’ve been speaking to and recording Dist 1 and 2 candidates regarding participatory budgeting, how they envision expanding such models and about pol.is
will be excellent to have your thoughts in video form
do you want to ask Mary first? Folks might not be so happy about me embedding their poll...
we will ask Mary.
I am now and have always been happy to be interviewed. 🙂
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excellent!! Will have to be after Taiwan unfortunately. we leave early this Friday and return late on the 25th
Cool. I'm sure Taiwan will be amazing. Wish I could make it. Hope to have good energy going in NYC by the time you get back.
Would be great to know if Mary is okay with sharing the embed. Whether or not she wants to I'd happily talk with her about all this stuff.
We’ll bring back stories and as much fodder as possible
Will let you know about pol.is. I am pretty certain she will be thrilled to collaborate but best ask.
You should chat with her outside of the pol.is stuff. A good ally. We will make introductions.
Hopefully she gets the district 2 city council seat. That seat is heavily contested.
Jasmin Sanchez from that district is great too
would you consider making this a more general document about this phased process?
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2017-09-13
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2017-09-14
@devin How did primary go for you?
are you advancing?
The Libertarian primary was many months ago. We got on the ballot through the independent nominee petition process not the major party primary process.
That's why we had to get 4000+ signatures. 🙂
I did not know that
That’s…confusing in some ways
but great for you 🙂
This article sums up the mess in the districts we worked in http://thevillager.com/2017/09/12/rivera-romps-chin-in-super-slim-win-grand-st-district-leader-upset-blaz-blasts-sal/
thevillager.com 
It's cool that it was a close race in 1
2017-09-15
If you're looking for a depressing podcast here's the Max and Murphy one where they lament that all the incumbents won and the general election might not have a single close race. Go Democracy! https://citylimits.org/2017/09/13/max-murphy-on-the-primary-results-and-the-fall-campaign/
City Limits
Does the mayor face a general election challenge? What do the results in his race and all the others mean? Does low turnout diminish the victors?
also my first press release went out today --> https://votedevin.com/2017/09/13/devin-balkind-runs-for-2017-nyc-public-advocate/
Devin for Public Advocate
“I’m running as a politician you can reach with your smartphone — a ‘facilitator’ rather than a ‘representative’ — to give New Yorkers a voice and new ways to participate, reach consensus, an…
So far no press inquiries.
and on that note - if you want to get more involved with the campaign, join our Slack --> https://votedevin.com/slack-invite/ !!
Devin for Public Advocate
Click the Slack icon below to receive an invite to our chat system:
2017-09-16
all the fucking incumbents won. all of them.
cuomo thinks the results of the primary are “democrary”
> “Some elections people turn out heavily, sometimes they turn out in less volume,” he said. “I just think that’s democracy.”
2017-09-18
hi hi friends, we’re taking the steps to start collecting all our notes/research etc on hackfoldr http://beta.hackfoldr.org/vnyc/
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still fumbling my way around it…still not quite sure i’ve got it but hey, content is saving and appearing
@lizbarry will send you the link to the video as soon as it uploads! Thank you for the introduction to avross. We had a wonderful afternoon
2017-09-20
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@lizbarry hi. here is the link to the videos we took of the wonderful conversation @olivebranch.a , @itsmisscs and I had at the PDIS office — https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqqywqdosx41pt2/AABWNUaoMCFM-QqCwIXsSfBia?dl=0
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AWESOME!
HIIIIIII 🙂
HIIIIII!!!!! ____!!!!!!
let us know if you like anything else covered
wow
we will be meeting again on Thursday 🙂
with Avross?
are you still in taipei???
yeah. Going for a facilitation meeting on drone policy
it’s so so fascinating
lots of stories for you
🙂
still in Taipei
will leave Taipei for Taroko gorge over the weekend
and back in NYC monday night!!
lets have another gathering soon after we get back 🙂
WOW
yes!
sounds like a plan
are you going to also film the drone facilitation? please do get at least notes!!!
and if you can, talk to that facilitator, ask them about their personal journey
taking notes for sure (everything in Mandarin though, so content will be minimal)
sadly…
will film though
also, the whole thing will be live streamed
we should definitely invest in transcription
we also have a film of Avross’s facilitation from last Thursday
Will chat with facilitator if possible! Might be a bit tough though. It is from 7-9PM and everyone is ready to bolt by the end
will try!!
We filmed most of the last one. It's not the most interesting footage and as D mentioned everything is live streamed and posted to Facebook. Those cameras are much better than hours. I try to focus on stills.
We sit in a corner. Limited mobility and we have a fixed camera lens. Not the most interesting captures but the experience is ++
HIIIIIII 🙂
HIIIIII!!!!! ____!!!!!!
let us know if you like anything else covered
wow
we will be meeting again on Thursday 🙂
with Avross?
are you still in taipei???
yeah. Going for a facilitation meeting on drone policy
it’s so so fascinating
lots of stories for you
🙂
still in Taipei
will leave Taipei for Taroko gorge over the weekend
and back in NYC monday night!!
lets have another gathering soon after we get back 🙂
@olivebranch.a the link has the unedited videos. Give us any additional thoughts/comments you have!!
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Woah, behind me were all beautiful orchids!
WOW
yes!
sounds like a plan
I'm late! but every tuesday 🙂
wiiiiild! thanks so much for posting the video, D!
are you going to also film the drone facilitation? please do get at least notes!!!
and if you can, talk to that facilitator, ask them about their personal journey
taking notes for sure (everything in Mandarin though, so content will be minimal)
sadly…
will film though
also, the whole thing will be live streamed
we should definitely invest in transcription
we also have a film of Avross’s facilitation from last Thursday
Will chat with facilitator if possible! Might be a bit tough though. It is from 7-9PM and everyone is ready to bolt by the end
will try!!
hi @patcon 😁
we have so many good stories from here…on video
we should all gather, get drinks and watch!!
they will all be posted
will publish all the unedited stuff under cc license so people can use it as fodder for their own content
yay! yay! yay! bahhhh... i'm bummed that I'll be gone by monday, so i will have to drink and watch the videos in toronto
not to worry. we’ll hunt you down patcon 😉
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2017-09-21
We filmed most of the last one. It's not the most interesting footage and as D mentioned everything is live streamed and posted to Facebook. Those cameras are much better than hours. I try to focus on stills.
We sit in a corner. Limited mobility and we have a fixed camera lens. Not the most interesting captures but the experience is ++
Last time you stayed more days...
@chihao has joined the channel
Watchout’s Taoyuan event on Saturday: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMV51hXPiOMHcZwVY6qkgaOYZlM45f4IQNMZicWM9ja-zQ8w/viewform
Woah, behind me were all beautiful orchids!
@lisa has joined the channel
2017-09-22
lol the caption for the last photo is "wait for Darshana". ❤️ thanks @olivebranch.a for posting
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And we had the picture of founding father behind us, so inspiring! Hahah
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2017-09-23
I've been talking with James Lane, who is the Green Party candidate for Public Advocate, about self-organizing debates between all the PA candidate. We'd ideally love to do one in each borough - but we'll have to organize them ourselves because no one but Tish qualified under the Board of Election rules to participate in the "official" debate. Maybe folks in this channel would be interested in helping with such an endeavor? I'm sure we could find interesting ways to insert some g0v elements into format. Let me know. Thanks.
Those rules are so ridiculous. A debate means more than one person 😡. I think it would be great to organize one. We’ve picked up some information on tools and layout vTaiwan uses.
Currently at a participatory event facilitated by Chia Hua.
@devin what’s your timeline?
Keep safe, friends https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evpz7a/turn-off-wi-fi-and-bluetooth-apple-ios-11
Motherboard
And it’s a feature, not a bug.
@devin we will be back on Monday 25th night. Definitely interested in helping with an endeavor. Let us know timeline
@itsmisscs WHAT THE FUCK
Yeah. FUCKED UP!
so fucked up
Yeah. FUCKED UP!
Yet another tool (YAT) alert: http://rambox.pro/ (Recommendation from Virgile at Hackathon. OS. Organize y’alls apps)
Rambox
Free, Open Source and Cross Platform messaging and emailing app that combines common web applications into one.
so fucked up
2017-09-25
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2017-09-30
Hi folks. We're going to have our first planning meeting for the NYSpeaks event on Sunday at 2pm in downtown Brooklyn. Here's a bit of info about what's being planned: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17hXdxpCvt5Yo7MEXLpJBnC4oEUSg9QVxXyCIJ2jKQ64/edit?usp=sharing and also the website that will serve as the online home for the event --> nyspeaks.org. If you're interested in attending let me know. Thanks!
is this a happening tomorrow?