Month: 2018-03


devin 06:53:36
anyone planning to go to whiskey wednesday ?
dzn 07:01:58
I had a mezcal morning and now I have a headache. Oh how I miss youth <sigh>
dzn 07:02:21
TL;DR: no
devin 07:10:47
katenicholson 07:11:59
That’s because Mezcal mornings are Mondays, @darshana !
dzn 07:13:20
lol. that’s right. I got the day wrong 🤦‍♀️🏾
katenicholson 07:13:45
;] feel better
dzn 07:22:49


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katenicholson 00:06:17
Hey <!channel> how are you? Anyone attend open data week stuff?
dzn 00:19:51
I was thinking about going for the Saturday L train shutdown hackathon. Nothing else so far. What caught your eye?
katenicholson 01:19:15
Not sure i can attend but this project looked interesting
katenicholson 01:20:58
And yeah, @darshana the hackathon thing looks like potential fun. I’m traveling mid week so may need the weekend to catch up on some work, but keep me in the loop if you go.
thebestsophist 01:22:44
oh…while i remember…if anyone would like to meed the NY 18F folks, we tend to grab breakfast together at hudson eats on thursdays
katenicholson 2018-03-06 01:43:02
Sound fun, thanks for sharing, i’ll take you up on that one of these thursdays!
ooo thanks for sharing. that’s great. what time?
what time?
thebestsophist 2018-03-06 02:50:27
usually 930 to 1030
that sounds great. I will join you one of these days too.
This week? ?
thebestsophist 2018-03-07 08:39:32
there is a chance that the weather may keep a lot of folks away this week, but i plan on being there!
Nice info. Is there a regular drink grabbing event too?
thebestsophist 2018-03-08 20:46:37
drinks are a lot less regular (first thurdsay of the month?)
I'd definitely be in for that. :)
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thebestsophist 03:00:20
also, i hope to start up a working group on deliberative democracy practices at 18f in the next 6 months or so to work through what’s possible given federal regs
thebestsophist 2018-03-06 03:02:10
one of my upcoming projects is probably working with policy and legal folks around the gov to figure out a way to document and map out guidelines for the paperwork reduction act in participatory design and user-centered design
This sounds hefty! Would like to hear all the details for sure!!





lizbarry 00:27:37
I'm ready to head over to Orbital, is anyone there yet or would be by 12:30?
dzn 01:41:43
yes @lizbarry!
dzn 02:05:57
@lizbarry I need to get on a call. Ping @itsmisscs
itsmisscs 02:13:26
watching this channel / have notifications on
itsmisscs 02:14:23
sadly, i am going to have to bolt soon after my 2pm call to take care of the pup. should have done it earlier but wasn’t sure if the gathering started early
lizbarry 02:15:09
Oh sorry the 12:41 message didn't get to my phone so I've been dawdling. Anyways, on the block now, come let me in!
itsmisscs 02:16:07
devin 05:22:08
eta 545
just saw this. Orbital clearing out 😞
come earlier, @devin!
Hmm maybe if there were any agenda or schedule published. ;)


devin 00:54:57
If anyone wants to see what the Manhattan LP looks like under the existing Chair - and meet the team planning to depose him in May - come hang -->


Monthly MLP meeting

Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 7:00 PM: People start arriving about 7:00. Speakers start between 7:30 and 8 and finish by 9pm. The meeting is free. All are welcome. We don't pay for the room, so ordering from the

katenicholson 02:34:42
Intrigued, but sadly can’t make it before 9. Others should gooo!
itsmisscs 07:09:42
I’ve got a work call at 8 today


devin 04:41:00
Ya'll missed a fuuuun time
katenicholson 04:55:45
devin 05:16:25
This guy tried to get the LP nomination for governor -->

1984 New York City Subway shooting

On December 22, 1984, Bernhard Goetz shot four alleged muggers on a New York City Subway train in Manhattan. He fired five shots, seriously wounding all four men. Goetz surrendered to police nine days after the shooting and was eventually charged with attempted murder, assault, reckless endangerment, and several firearms offenses. A jury found him not guilty of all charges except for one count of carrying an unlicensed firearm, for which he served eight months of a one-year sentence. In 1996, one of the shot men, Darrel Cabey, who had been left paraplegic and brain damaged as a result of his injuries, obtained a civil judgment of $43 million against Goetz. The incident sparked a nationwide debate on race and crime in major cities, the legal limits of self-defense, and the extent to which the citizenry could rely on the police to secure their safety. Goetz, dubbed the "Subway Vigilante" by New York City's press, came to symbolize New Yorkers' frustrations with the high crime rates of the 1980s. He was both praised and vilified in the media and public opinion. The incident has also been cited as a contributing factor to the groundswell movement against urban crime and disorder, and the successful National Rifle Association campaigns to loosen restrictions on the concealed carrying of firearms.

devin 05:17:07
He was basically self-trolling - it was bizarre.
devin 05:17:46
And we got to organize some folks for the chair election in may.
devin 05:18:02
Things got a bit feisty - fun political stuff.
devin 05:18:05
And then drinks.
katenicholson 06:05:46
The “Subway Vigilante” showed up?
devin 06:34:19
katenicholson 06:35:57
That is pretty wild. Sounds like a positive time overall then, nice. How many people were there?
devin 06:59:20
11 I think
katenicholson 07:17:31
Was subway vigilante carrying a gun?
devin 07:26:36
don't think so
katenicholson 13:13:26
<!channel> Who wants to take part in a *human flash mob air sensing performance* tomorrow? Can you bring heads? I’m looking for people to come act out in a respectable way, on a block on the upper west in the name of data and city governance.

Along with people, we would need some last minute *media attention*, have some in the works, but open to more thoughts on that if anyone has any.

*Goal* is to raise attention about a (soon to be common) situation in which the city (DEP) contracted work that is emitting toxic fumes into homes and will not fulfill requests to share data on the emissions that they are supposed to be monitoring. (Probably because they aren’t collecting it…) Requests for support from DOH resulted in them deferring to DEP.

More info below in the google doc, get in touch if you’re into this or you know someone who would be, or you know a classroom full of students that could use a cool excuse to cut class, er take a field trip, and do something environmentally exciting. Super last minute, we’ll see what happens.

katenicho @ gmail
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hi Kate! Sorry, i just got back to NYC last night at 4pm!!! i had been emailing you from north carolina! let's do this
katenicholson 2018-03-19 23:57:23
No worries, @lizbarry. Would be happy to talk further about it. The researcher at Purdue likes the momentum, not sure what he’ll do with it but finding out…. We also had a nice little ‘win’ holding the city accountable: After DEP told us that they ‘checked’ apartments on Thursday and reported that everything was ‘fine’ and no complaints— we forwarded one person in DEP a collection of comments from a survey we sent out on Friday asking people about fumes ——(((quick background: a while back we collected every apartment on the block’s email (~400) in order to track mosquito sightings in a weekly survey, as we had an issue on the block— and which is actually why they were relining the sewers)))—— and told him we have documented complaints and asked if this looked ‘fine’. They responded that they’ll look into it. Not sure where it can go but, it is rewarding to have what the city needs to justify some sort of action/response, ie. power.
Wow, would you consider posting this story up on
katenicholson 2018-03-23 23:57:38
Sure - what category would it fall under ?
katenicholson 2018-03-24 02:01:47
Actually @lizbarry I take it back. We’re using the momentum to see if we can get the city to revise its way— i’ll have more of a story after a few things happen… so tbd / stay tuned.
Awesome!!! And "progress reports" are kind of how PL works together and shares progressively and not just as "final reports" . What I mean is incomplete / in progress work is warmly welcomed!! Also good luck 🤗✊
katenicholson 2018-03-24 06:17:58
Ok cool- i’ll check it out then and see if i can whip something up earlier :] fun stuff.


dzn 21:18:38
@lizbarry @itsmisscs hey. I'll be joining remote today. I'm in Princeton for the day.
@lizbarry @patcon i’m at orbital. phone is charging. ping here if you come within next 20-30 minutes
I'm walking down from Union Square now, will get some lunch and then come straight to orbital
sounds good @lizbarry. see you soon
Hey come.dowm and get us :) please
Or just me :)
hi hi
hey. where can I call?
we’re making teas first
katenicholson 2018-03-17 06:05:11
You ladies still there?
hi @katehnicholson! i think we weren't!
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katenicholson 00:01:24
Hi new york - Death of Stalin tomorrow night at BAM 710pm, join up if you like and we can catch up before/after.

The Death of Stalin

Armando Iannucci’s dark comedy captures the political maneuvering in 1950s Soviet Russia.

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devin 05:04:12
ooo I wanna see that
katenicholson 05:48:06
yea! supposed to be good, cmon!