#vnyc
2018-12-01
noneck
01:25:39
I just got off the phone with the Charter team, they are open do doing a webinar to talk about their process and needs. Then, we can come up with ideas on how our tools can work within their general flow.
noneck
01:26:10
Should we plan on having an inperson meeting on the 8th?
devin
01:27:49
Awesome. Bravo. I'm flexible on time.
npstorey
07:40:53
Excellent! I am flexible on meeting time on Dec 8 as well.
itsmisscs
22:08:14
Dec 8 works for me
2018-12-04
lizbarry
04:46:58
i'm available by 6pm or so on Dec 8, or i could skip this daytime event i'm supposed to be presenting at and be available earlier
bitsybot
05:12:31
Dec. 8 is good for me, too
2018-12-05
lizbarry
01:40:31
I think i'm going to skip out of this daytime thing -- can we get an afternoon time on our calendar?
lizbarry
03:04:40
How about 5 or 6pm? Maybe we can meet over some tacos
npstorey
04:18:05
5 or 6pm works for me and tacos sounds great. I vote for Brooklyn tacos.
noneck
05:24:57
the 8th works for me, i have a bday party to attend at 6-7-8ish... how many people are coming? maybe we can crash the party?
npstorey
05:40:39
How about meet for tacos at 5 to discuss business and then optimal merriment after?
npstorey
05:42:49
We could meet in Williamsburg, *or* there’s a taco place by my house in Clinton Hill: Xochitl Taqueria
1015 Fulton St, Brooklyn, NY 11238
https://goo.gl/maps/12LfDYVoPEK2
1015 Fulton St, Brooklyn, NY 11238
https://goo.gl/maps/12LfDYVoPEK2
noneck
05:43:44
Clinton Hill pls
npstorey
05:44:48
If we meet at the tacos by my house I’ll bring my daughter along for a bit :)
devin
05:46:09
... then can we work at your place Nathan? If not we can work at mine - an under 15 minute walk from Nathan's.
npstorey
05:52:42
Probably better to work at Devin’s after, but we can play it by ear. Regardless, sounds like a plan to meet at Xochitl at 5pm this Saturday.
noneck
06:09:57
btw, yall are invited to this birthday party. he is part of our tribe.
lizbarry
08:17:26
great!
devin
08:20:56
Ahh good point. But with Chris's Party at 6 that doesn't leave us much time at all to do anything but eat tacos and then walk 20 minutes to Chris's.
devin
08:21:36
Maybe we should aim for taco lunch instead. Then we could get a bit of work done too.
devin
08:21:45
before Chris's party.
lizbarry
22:59:46
ah i have a noon-two+ committment at an architecture thing but can join after
2018-12-06
noneck
00:45:43
What do term limits mean for NYC's community boards? We need to build up their data and technology literacy. Read Lindsay Poirier's op-ed on why we need better #opendata & #govtech education. Also, read our report on the data challenges community boards face.
http://www.gothamgazette.com/opinion/8121-term-limits-heighten-need-for-community-boards-to-become-data-literate
http://www.gothamgazette.com/opinion/8121-term-limits-heighten-need-for-community-boards-to-become-data-literate
Gotham Gazette
(photo: Michael Appleton/Mayoral Photography Office) On November 6, New York City voters approved a ballot proposal to impose term limits on community board members for the first time since their role was written into the city’s Charter in 1963. The proposal was introduced by Mayor de Blasio’s Charter Revision Commission and proved to be the most contentious of the three proposals listed on this year’s ballot. Several City Council members and one borough president, among others, argued that imposing term limits would help diversify boards that have historically failed to represent the demographics of the neighborhoods they represent. Dissenters argued that forcing the removal of long-term members would threaten the already tenuous authority of boards to oppose land use and licensing proposals that would negatively impact their communities. These folks claimed that limiting board terms would undermine the board’s institutional knowledge and would make it possible for real estate developers to take advantage of inexperienced board members. The debate, at least because of the opposition argument, pins diversity against authority - representative democracy against an ability to get things done; it subtlety though forcefully suggests that community boards - the city’s most local formal government body, of which there are 59 across the five boroughs - cannot have both. How has it become so intractable for boards to effectively and legitimately speak on behalf of their communities, while also reflecting the composition of their communities? At BetaNYC - a community-based organization dedicated to improving lives in New York through civic design, technology, and data - we believe that disparities in information and information infrastructure play a major role in propagating this problematic dichotomy. In local New York City governance, there is a significant power imbalance when it comes to who has access to information, who has the expertise and experience to manipulate it, and who has the authority to present it as evidence. When coming before community boards, real estate developers and business owners often gather and aggregate data to craft a narrative as to how their proposals will positively impact a community or to demonstrate how their proposals will not harm a community. Developers may suggest that a rezoning will result in a certain number of new jobs or new affordable housing units to sway a community board towards supporting their proposal. A restaurant owner may present data to argue that setting up a sidewalk café will have minimal impact on foot traffic and pedestrian safety. Since community boards can only put together advisory resolutions, it is important for them to be able to legitimate their arguments for or against the proposals with evidence. However, many community boards do not have the technical literacy or infrastructure to fact check the presented data or to offer counter-posing statistics. With the approval of the term limits ballot proposal, their ability to do so is further compromised. It takes time to learn the intricacies of zoning and licensing law, let alone to develop the skills to aggregate and present data in ways that can affect zoning and licensing decisions - all of which board members must accomplish on volunteered time. The fact that elected officials are concerned that diversifying board voices will undermine the board’s authority highlights a much deeper issue - that the balance of information access, expertise, and legitimacy in the city’s formal decision-making processes is far from equitable and just. Ironically, the information and expertise that community boards do bring to their positions - rich experiential knowledge of the history, people, and problems that characterize their communities - often gets written off as anecdotal evidence or angry voices as their advisory resolutions move through the city’s processes. This evidence is often considered to lack the authority of seemingly more objective (and less passionate) quantitative data. An unfortunate consequence of discourse around “data-driven decision-making” is that numbers and statistics have become a privileged form of evidence - with little reflection on the disparities in who controls these numbers and statistics, and what other forms of evidence are undermined in the process. This is why BetaNYC has placed community boards at the center of our vision to expand civic data literacy and advocate for civic data infrastructure in New York City. We believe that communities are empowered when their community boards are equipped with both the knowledge and the resources they need to challenge information practices that ignore or misrepresent people and problems in their neighborhoods. Since 2015, BetaNYC has been researching the technical and information infrastructure available to community board district offices and the data training offered to community board members and district office staff. We have documented the challenges boards face in leveraging the city’s open data resources to advance their resolutions, and have outlined several specific use cases in which community boards could leverage city or state data to back up their claims. The results of this research are summarized in a report we published in October 2017, entitled “Data Design Challenges and Opportunities for NYC Community Boards.” Through this research, we have been able to expand our technical offerings, develop new open data curriculum, and foster new collaborations with the Mayor’s Office of Data Analytics (MODA) and the Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications (DOITT). We produced BoardStat (a 311 data dashboard), SLA Mapper (a tool to track noise complaints, underage drinking complaints, and restaurants healthgrades for bars seeking liquor license renewals), and Tenants Map (a tool that maps rent-stabilized units and housing-related 311 complaints to highlight potential tenant harassment). BetaNYC also offers public training on how to use the city’s open data portal, how to map open data with Carto, and how to integrate open data with Census data using spreadsheets. We work closely with borough president offices to ensure that community boards know about and have access to these trainings. Finally, in October, we testified before the City Council in favor of legislation, Intro. 1137-2018, which would not only codify MODA into the city Charter, but also require that they offer training on the use of the open data portal to community boards. We are thrilled to see this legislation passed. As new voices filter into community boards positions, it will be more important than ever to equip them with skills, resources, and tools to effectively advocate for their communities. If the new Civic Engagement Commission, the creation of which was also approved by voters through a ballot measure on Election Day, is going to provide technical assistance, it should focus on building up a new class of community board members who are digitally and data literate, savvy online/offline organizers, and great public facilitators. BetaNYC looks forward to working with boards, city agencies, and elected officials to ensure that these needs are met. ***Lindsay Poirier, Ph.D., is the Lab Manager at BetaNYC and soon to be Assistant Professor of Data Studies at University of California Davis. On Twitter @lindsaypoirier & @BetaNYC. (Note: Thanks to Noel Hidalgo, Executive Director of BetaNYC, for advice on this piece.) ***Have an op-ed idea or submission for Gotham Gazette? Email <mailto:opinion@gothamgazette.com|opinion@gothamgazette.com>
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noneck
00:46:16
i'm pro-vnyc-taco before party
npstorey
01:15:00
I could meet a bit earlier- how about 4-6 for taco-vnyc pre-party? It should be ok to meet at Xochitl that whole time, but if it gets weird in there we can head to my place right around the corner as long as we’re out by ~6pm.
devin
01:18:36
Sounds good to me.
katenicholson
01:30:52
Just catching up to this all - awesome work. Count me in as well. ( ++ I love live messy scribing / drawing diagrams to help wade through the muck.)
2018-12-07
noneck
00:33:24
ok. Xochitl this Saturday from 4-6. i've sent calendar invites to those of you whom i have email address for...
devin
01:08:05
Nice
npstorey
02:48:50
Excellent! Looking forward to this.
2018-12-09
npstorey
02:04:14
I’ll have a few paper copies of the above documents. See you at Xochitl at 4pm!
lizbarry
05:12:14
En route ! 4 stops away on the C
devin
05:13:42
Kate and I are 10 min away.
2018-12-10
katenicholson
04:44:10
@nathan.p.storey @lizbarry @bitsy.bentley @devin @noneck Notes from yesterday’s meeting have been documented here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xhjxVFtesiC0dphuP4KTUZdtaUiVWkQRWz-UWwnNk9g/edit?usp=sharing
katenicholson
04:53:27
If you are inclined, please add your “key takeaways” and “next steps” at the end of the document so as to create a more accessible and actionable meeting summary.
lizbarry
09:09:53
Thanks @katehnicholson!!!!!!!!
2018-12-11
2018-12-12
devin
02:02:10
Hi @schuyler1d welcome
2018-12-14
lizbarry
23:51:11
Hi all, just coming up for air and checking on on this interesting convo. @noneck do you need any additional docs / support from us? I have some time today i can kick in if it would help
2018-12-17
katenicholson
11:36:29
Also curious. Are you organizing / preparing anything specific this week? Let us know : ] @noneck @lizbarry
2018-12-19
npstorey
21:06:35
Good analysis from Citizen's Budget Commission on the focus areas that the 2019 Charter Revision Commission voted to focus on: https://cbcny.org/research/charter-revision-2019
Citizens Budget Commission of New York
The 2019 Commission will avoid the shortcomings of recent commissions if it stays true to its stated criteria and pursues Charter revisions that simplify and update the document.![]()
2018-12-20
noneck
00:05:08
Hello thread. I just spoke to Indiana. She will get back to me by the end of the week on what are their preferred next steps. She expressed that the Commission might have some concerns about doing a webinar. I offered that we don't have to do a webinar and we could do a small briefing between the Commission and us. (More or less, I'm looking for any door for us to get in...) She was more receptive to that idea. Again, she'll be updating me by the end of the week.
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2018-12-31
lizbarry
05:06:47
great!