#vnyc
2018-01-01
Happy New Year for those in the future and for those in the near future!! Just want to say that I’m so grateful for all that happened this year. It is hard to imagine that we just met this summer! It feels like we’ve been friends forever. I am beyond excited to continue dreaming, experimenting, and adventuring with y’all. ❤️ ❤️ Thank you so much for being the best of friends.
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YESSS Happy New Year to you all!
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@devin @itsmisscs So much happy! and new years too! You meow-cats are great
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2018-01-02
Happy new year people! 2018 is looking fine. xx
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2018-01-03
Suraj Patel for Congress
Suraj Patel is an entrepreneur, activist, lawyer, and ethics professor living in New York's 12th Congressional District. We're running to bring new ideas and new energy to NYC Democrats. Our mission is to make politics more accessible and inspiring in order to build a proud new electorate. Suraj is
He’s not in my district (if anyone here is in District 12 they are looking for subjects for a shoot) buut i kinda think he’d be down to listen to our vnyc plan
Question: does anyone know if citizen contact in NYC with departments happen through email, or is it some central system (311-ish) or webforms or something?
@benjamin.blair.chrobo or betanyc folks may know the answer to this
cc @noneck :)
I do not have an informed answer but poking around a bit it looks like some departments have a pretty robust email system (ex. Buildings) while others direct you to 311 and a main office phone number (Education)
Rats. That means piping "our" communications into their existing comms processes would be a bit complicated.
Thanks so much for that, @benjamin.blair.chrobo!
Thanks so much for that, @benjamin.blair.chrobo!
I wouldn't trust me much though -- I'm still very much learning the ropes
Fwiw, as mentioned in prior meetings, the thought is that, should they use email, we could repurpose mySociety's alaveteli.org to be an email middleman more suited to vNYC goals
You can find email addresses for thousands of city employees here: http://a856-gbol.nyc.gov/GBOLWebsite/GreenBook/Online
I ask bc email is essentially an open api and a system departments already use daily, so we can build on that for the "contact departments" portion of the vtaiwan process
But if NYC uses webforms or other arcane comms, with no emails available, then we're more at their mercy in terms of them having to set something up for us (short of an order to compel departments to talk on discourse forum, like in Taiwan)
@benjamin.blair.chrobo or betanyc folks may know the answer to this
cc @noneck :)
I do not have an informed answer but poking around a bit it looks like some departments have a pretty robust email system (ex. Buildings) while others direct you to 311 and a main office phone number (Education)
Rats. That means piping "our" communications into their existing comms processes would be a bit complicated.
Thanks so much for that, @benjamin.blair.chrobo!
Thanks so much for that, @benjamin.blair.chrobo!
I wouldn't trust me much though -- I'm still very much learning the ropes
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Fwiw, as mentioned in prior meetings, the thought is that, should they use email, we could repurpose mySociety's alaveteli.org to be an email middleman more suited to vNYC goals
@fiorella has joined the channel
2018-01-04
You can find email addresses for thousands of city employees here: http://a856-gbol.nyc.gov/GBOLWebsite/GreenBook/Online
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Hi folks. I want to announce that the first version of data.mygov.nyc is now live and I hope you all will check it out.
It is an open source Laravel/MySQL app fed by two different AirTables.
It connects data from a variety of datasets: NYC Capital Projects, NYC Expense Report, NYC Greenbook (for contacts) and the NYC's massively underutilized Services API.
Slack doesn't link .nyc tlds I guess - but please copy/paste the url to check it out: data.mygov.nyc
My next step is to improve the design. I hope folks will help. And I'm also excited about incorproating a FOIL tool. NYC already has a bit of one here: https://a860-openrecords.nyc.gov/
Github is here: https://github.com/sarapis/data-mygov-nyc
GitHub
Contribute to data-mygov-nyc development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Nice!! Will look at it!!
Nice!! Will look at it!!
2018-01-05
Hi NYC! Greta Byrum of Community Mesh in Red Hook has offered to join an evening get-together on Tuesday, January 23 --- does this work for folks? goal is to advance understandings of and hands-on experiences with both IPFS/QRI for distributed data storage/sharing and mesh networking.
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@lizbarry sounds interesting, I should be able to make it!
@patcon i like shared calendars. I think there’s also a slack integration where you can automatically send out updates on events happening that week/day etc.
(Might require a nyc events channel though… to sift it out from the noise— alternative suggestion would be to rename vync-articles to vync-weekly/dao;y)
daily*
How about an events channel if we are worried about noise? Articles is nice for reading shares.
@itsmisscs down with it so long as people don’t think we’ll have macro channel noise 🙃
Macro channel noise?
Funny choice of words- sorry- I just meant noise at channel level vs noise at char level (within a channel). Down w whatever.
Chat*
hmm i’m not sure i totally get what you’re saying. apologies!
i am also fine putting events in#vnyc too
no worries at all - i was weighing benefits of each option. not important -go with what you please, it’ll be right ;]
ah. k. easy enough to move these integrations around
Macro channel noise?
Funny choice of words- sorry- I just meant noise at channel level vs noise at char level (within a channel). Down w whatever.
Chat*
hmm i’m not sure i totally get what you’re saying. apologies!
i am also fine putting events in#vnyc too
no worries at all - i was weighing benefits of each option. not important -go with what you please, it’ll be right ;]
ah. k. easy enough to move these integrations around
2018-01-16
Hello! tomorrow night @patcon @darshana and I are going over to ProgHack Night like we did back in July for https://github.com/ProgressiveHackNight/breakout-groups/issues/16 . It would be great to see anyone else there! @devin this could be a perfect place to share back your work on data.mygov.nyc and generally to hear updates from everyone cc@katehnicholson !
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Thanks but I'm in LA until Wednesday
ok well get home safe and on Friday plan to join us at New Lab all day -- info posted in vNetwork channel
@lizbarry heya, tonight’s no good for me. Friday I’ll plan to tune in during day at points and wiggle out of work a bit early to say hi in person. Regarding dinner, that sounds like lots of fun. I’m down pending on a dinner plan w a friend in town for a hot min. Should know later today!
sounds good and hope to see you soon!
memories!!
Looking ahead to the end of the week, this Friday Jan 19 will be another all day worksession in New Lab and all are invited. (going to crosspost in vNetwork)
cool. i can chime in remotely
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Thanks but I'm in LA until Wednesday
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ok well get home safe and on Friday plan to join us at New Lab all day -- info posted in vNetwork channel
@lizbarry heya, tonight’s no good for me. Friday I’ll plan to tune in during day at points and wiggle out of work a bit early to say hi in person. Regarding dinner, that sounds like lots of fun. I’m down pending on a dinner plan w a friend in town for a hot min. Should know later today!
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2018-01-17
Hi #vnyc, here's the invite for next Tuesday (not tonight! the 23rd) for going over to New American and discussing community mesh and data justice https://www.eventbrite.com/e/a-small-conversation-about-mesh-the-d-web-and-data-justice-nyc-philly-tickets-42239992956 -- please rsvp
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sounds good and hope to see you soon!
@katehnicholson @devin ^^
FYI random but anyone know https://twitter.com/OrangeuGoing? working with the Bronx boro president
nope! but just eyed the feed
worth getting to know
i should add these folk to the stakeholder outreach spreadsheet later
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bzz7W9EcLUTCWl2o5CepCbNrRUkSvpzVPfYlQ2nV5dM/edit
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bzz7W9EcLUTCWl2o5CepCbNrRUkSvpzVPfYlQ2nV5dM/edit
nope! but just eyed the feed
worth getting to know
hey all, thoughts on bridging one of our rooms here across slack networks? thinking betanyc and proghacknight slacks. Would love to defragment communities and allow people to participate/discover from where they are 🙂 cc @noneck
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Sounds good to me but how do you do that without a paid Slack account?
learning so much from you @patcon
i should add these folk to the stakeholder outreach spreadsheet later
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bzz7W9EcLUTCWl2o5CepCbNrRUkSvpzVPfYlQ2nV5dM/edit
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bzz7W9EcLUTCWl2o5CepCbNrRUkSvpzVPfYlQ2nV5dM/edit
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Sounds good to me but how do you do that without a paid Slack account?
no livestream yet, but notes here: https://trello.com/c/UiT9zXBl/15-meeting-notes
livestreaming now here:
https://appear.in/vnetwork
https://appear.in/vnetwork
matterbridge-heroku - A Heroku buildpack to help bridge chat tools like Slack.
livestreaming now here:
https://appear.in/vnetwork
https://appear.in/vnetwork
Video conversations with up to 4 people for free - no login, no downloads. Create a video room. Share the link. Appear together. Try it now at <https://appear.in>
learning so much from you @patcon
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2018-01-20
Hi folks. Just wanted to ping the list to say I'm back in NYC.
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I’m back tomorrow morning. Time for some f2f hellos.
And that last night I became chair of the Brooklyn Libertarian Party 😀
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👏🏾 👏🏾 i look forward to seeing what you do with this
Haha Devin! This is haaaamaazing.
yeah! congrats devin!
whoa! wow 😄
oh man. Is it time for some real mischief?
👏🏾 👏🏾 i look forward to seeing what you do with this
I’m back tomorrow morning. Time for some f2f hellos.
Haha Devin! This is haaaamaazing.
yeah! congrats devin!
2018-01-21
whoa! wow 😄
oh man. Is it time for some real mischief?
2018-01-22
planning to see you guys this friday afternoon?!? i will be fresh off my first day of class 9-11:40am and needing some lunchhhhh
sounds good to me 🙂
Hey. Here’s the application for BetaNYC School of Data conference — https://hackmd.io/EwUwjMCGCc0BwFpJwOzAQFhQM2wu0AxgKwIAM0YGRAJijBgGxA==
hackmd.io 
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @patcon I put in the discussion from prog hack night into proposal form. take a look please!!!
Thanks Thanks
I think the proposal reads very well
Thanks for taking it on @darshana!
oh yay. good! Title though? That’s your forte 🙂
take a look, let me know
for those who were not there on Tuesday at Prog Hack Night. The idea is to stir up interest in facilitation in NYC
we are a bit passed the deadline so last minute scramble but hopefully BetaNYC will be lenient 🙂
also, let’s please as many of us try to make it to prog hack night as much as possible?
Great venue for meeting and we should find a way to gather regularly.
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for those out of town… remote chats please!!
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @patcon I put in the discussion from prog hack night into proposal form. take a look please!!!
Thanks Thanks
BetaNYC
This year, we will host conversations around four key areas: digital literacy & privacy, smart & wise cities, effective & open government, and lastly, civic & g
2018-01-23
I think the proposal reads very well
Thanks for taking it on @darshana!
oh yay. good! Title though? That’s your forte 🙂
sounds good! the form is so short i gues they didn't need all the detail we worked out last week, hmmm?
it was super useful! I pulled the framework directly from there.
a title?
I am not good at catchy title
Resilient/Dynamic Conversations: Methods and Tools for Consensus
Dynamic Conversations
we don’t mention dynamic conversation anywhere in the text. we will need to define it if we do
I like the second!
Maybe — Lessons from Taiwan: Methods and Tools for Governing the Commons??
@itsmisscs @lizbarry @patcon ^^
Everything after the colon
great! done 🙂
Consensus-based Methods and Tools for Governing the Commons (OR) Consensus-building Methods for Governing the Commons
Option 2, if you're still asking! Both are good!
Still asking :) Alright!
I'm sending in tonight
That title gives me spine-tingles! Yassss nailed it 🐌
lol. spine-tingles are good news
++ great title
@lizbarry @patcon @itsmisscs betaNYC just got in touch, they would like organizational affiliations for us. CC, Public Labs, what else? Also, have vNetwork??
I’ll probably see them at Data&Society tonight
also, they need organizational logo if possible
i have to ask my Public Lab team if we can join. what are we joining?
this is for the BetaNYC conf submission
just let me know what you are comfortable with
it was super useful! I pulled the framework directly from there.
a title?
I am not good at catchy title
Resilient/Dynamic Conversations: Methods and Tools for Consensus
Dynamic Conversations
My friend is doing a webinar with practical advice for running exceptional meetings. He comes from startup land but his insights are relevant for nonprofit, community, business, Highly recommended. I'll be there. Use code "Otters" to get in freeeee. --> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/four-steps-to-running-better-meetings-tickets-42201847863?utm_source=eb_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=order_confirmation_email&utm_term=eventname&ref=eemailordconf
Eventbrite
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Thanks! Reminded me of something from this book the collaborative imperative. Just uploaded to the google drive. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sdYnJUKCv-FxNJsTqJNKY2eL8cwTXBte
--> PDF #2, page 140
Also i wont be able to attned the webinar but will you have access to it beyond the event
If so, would love to see it.
thank you!
Thanks! Reminded me of something from this book the collaborative imperative. Just uploaded to the google drive. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sdYnJUKCv-FxNJsTqJNKY2eL8cwTXBte
--> PDF #2, page 140
Also i wont be able to attned the webinar but will you have access to it beyond the event
If so, would love to see it.
we don’t mention dynamic conversation anywhere in the text. we will need to define it if we do
I like the second!
Maybe — Lessons from Taiwan: Methods and Tools for Governing the Commons??
@itsmisscs @lizbarry @patcon ^^
Everything after the colon
great! done 🙂
Consensus-based Methods and Tools for Governing the Commons (OR) Consensus-building Methods for Governing the Commons
Option 2, if you're still asking! Both are good!
Still asking :) Alright!
I'm sending in tonight
That title gives me spine-tingles! Yassss nailed it 🐌
lol. spine-tingles are good news
++ great title
2018-01-24
thank you!
Great to see @itsmisscs and @darshana at the decentralization convo last night. I have the photo that Lenny took, in it @itsmisscs is visible, @darshana is not. Is it OK if i share this photo?
D should be thrilled
lol. I totally am. And… it’s not accidental that I’m not in the picture 😉
haha! you have survival skills
@itsmisscs is it ok with you tho?
i could put an emoji smiley face on your head instead
Yeah totally fine
thanks!
2018-01-25
hi hi @lizbarry Was so good to see you. Thanks for organizing that excellent event!! Such an amazing group of people.
also, cute haircut!!!! 🙂
D should be thrilled
Hi folks. Do we have any interest in CRM? Affinity.Works is a "rad" open source CRM project. I applied for beta access and finally got a response from them that they want to have a call so...
i have a huge interest in CRM for Public Lab and would love to "solve" the problem twice in one shot and get us set up really well as well
I got a demo. Not the best thing ever but it's improving. It currently relies on syncing contacts for email with Action Network
It could be used for this group or I could find another.
lol. I totally am. And… it’s not accidental that I’m not in the picture 😉
@lizbarry @patcon @itsmisscs betaNYC just got in touch, they would like organizational affiliations for us. CC, Public Labs, what else? Also, have vNetwork??
Hi everyone. I’ll be at Data&Society this evening if anyone wants to join. It’s the best party in town on a Wednesday
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I’ll probably see them at Data&Society tonight
also, they need organizational logo if possible
what's the event?
"whiskey wednesday"! (i've never been )
i have to ask my Public Lab team if we can join. what are we joining?
I'm pro whisky and in the city. When's it start/end?
i have a huge interest in CRM for Public Lab and would love to "solve" the problem twice in one shot and get us set up really well as well
this is for the BetaNYC conf submission
just let me know what you are comfortable with
I kinda missed it today 😕
got a bit side tracked with work
starts at 5, ends at 7:30-8
@devin where are you?
close to D&S?
I'm in Soho. just finishing up here
my friend is doing some bowling in Bk so that's my plan now 😉
Kk. Another whiskey wed
happens every week!
ya good to know. Do they actually supply whiskey?
They used to. Not for 2018 😞
Beer/wine then>?
yup!
that's sufficient 🙂
and thanks for the intel
haha! you have survival skills
@itsmisscs is it ok with you tho?
They used to. Not for 2018 😞
Beer/wine then>?
yup!
that's sufficient 🙂
and thanks for the intel
Whiskey weds sounds so fun. Tonight I caught sight of @patcon in Toronto, who kindly attended a screening event I had. Here we were:
oh wow!! How exciting!!!!
hello hello
Kate has become "The Flash"?
i could put an emoji smiley face on your head instead
@lizbarry they always told me to slow down...
@lizbarry in other news I learned that public labs has a base in NOLA? A physician from the film, who came for the panel, works there, (out of a new coworking space at the contemp arts center) and there may be some reason to show her what’s up at public labs. She is at intersection of influenza research and building research tools / tech. So, let’s go to NOLa people. :]
looks like i'll be in NOLA a week from today, let me know who i should reach out to / invite oer
That was quick. What’s you’re email? I’ll intro you and we can see if she’ll be around. 👌
Sent! Btw, Barbara is trying to entice me to join you guys with links about Krewe Du Kanaval http://www.kanaval.org/ it looks rad, you should go.
@patcon @lizbarry ^^
Omg so many Krewes! New Orleans is crazy
Wha! Just got back to toronto and I'm juuuuusst seeing this! Haha oh god, that would have been ridic if you'd been down too
2018-01-26
Yeah totally fine
thanks!
YEAH!!!!
2018-01-28
Hey VNYC, i have lunch for anyone who wants to come over to my house today -- homemade potato soup with roasted leeks, cheddar cheese, and turkey bacon bits (optional)
You’re so sweet!! ❤️🌺❤️ Been out running errands, sadly.
looks like i'll be in NOLA a week from today, let me know who i should reach out to / invite oer
2018-01-29
That was quick. What’s you’re email? I’ll intro you and we can see if she’ll be around. 👌
Yuuumness.
You’re so sweet!! ❤️🌺❤️ Been out running errands, sadly.
How did I miss this?!? https://cities.ycr.org/blog/2016/07/27/new-cities
New Cities
We want to study building new, better cities. The world is full of people who aren’t realizing their potential in large part because their cities don't provide the opportunities and living conditions necessary for success. A high leverage way to improve our world is to unleash this massive potential
suddenly democracy.earth makes sense
Interesting. I'm seeing lots of interest in these ideas online in libertarian-adjacent communities. Gates just bought a bunch of acres in Arizona (http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/13/technology/future/bill-gates-smart-city-arizona/index.html) and lots of tech money is going to Reno.
Will likely follow in the tradition of "special economic zones" which are considered a radically successful experiment over the last 50 yeras.
* considered by conventional economists and many libertarains
How about human rights experts?
Wow that Y Comb post says literally nothing about the environment, except a mention of a river in passing "we don't need that anymore"
We're gonna need rights and a planet, people.
If we don't see our lifestyles as the relationships we craft among humans+technology+environment, eventually the experiment will go bankrupt.
To the lede on that posting, it's not humans that old cities are holding back, it's capitalism itself being held back
Wow I should go to Twitter with rants like this.
Hmmm maybe...
Looks like the project fizzled? The two posts are from 2016.
maybe, but i also agree w your trend-spotting that people are going to try making these
Lots of folks consider this the next gen of --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_economic_zone
suddenly democracy.earth makes sense
2018-01-30
Interesting. I'm seeing lots of interest in these ideas online in libertarian-adjacent communities. Gates just bought a bunch of acres in Arizona (http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/13/technology/future/bill-gates-smart-city-arizona/index.html) and lots of tech money is going to Reno.
CNNMoney
A group with ties to Bill Gates invests $80 million in a forward-thinking community.
Will likely follow in the tradition of "special economic zones" which are considered a radically successful experiment over the last 50 yeras.
* considered by conventional economists and many libertarains
How about human rights experts?
Wow that Y Comb post says literally nothing about the environment, except a mention of a river in passing "we don't need that anymore"
We're gonna need rights and a planet, people.
If we don't see our lifestyles as the relationships we craft among humans+technology+environment, eventually the experiment will go bankrupt.
To the lede on that posting, it's not humans that old cities are holding back, it's capitalism itself being held back
Wow I should go to Twitter with rants like this.
Tomorrow night is ProgHacknight -- no speakers, just time for groups to work together http://www.progressivehacknight.org/ is anyone planning to go?
Progressive Hacknight
Progressive HackNight is a bi-weekly gathering of coders and creatives, makers and doers, to foment and inspire action. We use our collective talents and abilities to push forward pro-social change in benefit of the common good.
Let’s go!
Hmmm maybe...
Looks like the project fizzled? The two posts are from 2016.
maybe, but i also agree w your trend-spotting that people are going to try making these
ok i'm in!
🙂 yay
Lots of folks consider this the next gen of --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_economic_zone
A special economic zone (SEZ) is an area in which business and trade laws are different from rest of the country. SEZs are located within a country's national borders, and their aims include: increased trade, increased investment, job creation and effective administration. To encourage businesses to set up in the zone, financial policies are introduced. These policies typically regard investing, taxation, trading, quotas, customs and labour regulations. Additionally, companies may be offered tax holidays, where upon establishing in a zone they are granted a period of lower taxation. The creation of special economic zones by the host country may be motivated by the desire to attract foreign direct investment (FDI). The benefits a company gains by being in a special economic zone may mean that it can produce and trade goods at a lower price, aimed at being globally competitive. In some countries the zones have been criticized for being little more than labor camps, with workers denied fundamental labor rights.
2018-01-31
A poem for you all this morning, passed along by a friend.
My Ancestry DNA results came in.
Just as I suspected, my great great grandfather
was a monarch butterfly.
Much of who I am is still wriggling under a stone.
I am part larva, but part hummingbird too.
There is dinosaur tar in my bone marrow.
My golden hair sprang out of a meadow in Palestine.
Genghis Khan is my fourth cousin,
but I didn’t get his dimples.
My loins are loaded with banyan seeds from Sri Lanka,
but I descended from Ravanna, not Ram.
My uncle is a mastodon.
There are traces of white people in my saliva.
3.7 billion years ago I swirled in golden dust,
dreaming of a planet overgrown with lingams and yonis.
More recently, say 60,000 B.C.
I walked on hairy paws across a land bridge
joining Sweden to Botswana.
I am the bastard of the sun and moon.
I can no longer hide my heritage of raindrops and cougar scat.
I am made of your grandmother’s tears.
You conquered rival tribesmen of your own color,
chained them together, marched them naked to the coast,
and sold them to colonials from Savannah.
I was that brother you sold, I was the slave trader,
I was the chain.
Admit it, you have wings, vast and golden,
like mine, like mine.
You have sweat, black and salty,
like mine, like mine.
You have secrets silently singing in your blood,
like mine, like mine.
Don’t pretend that earth is not one family.
Don’t pretend we never hung from the same branch.
Don’t pretend we don’t ripen on each other’s breath.
Don’t pretend we didn’t come here to forgive.
- by Fred LaMotte
Just as I suspected, my great great grandfather
was a monarch butterfly.
Much of who I am is still wriggling under a stone.
I am part larva, but part hummingbird too.
There is dinosaur tar in my bone marrow.
My golden hair sprang out of a meadow in Palestine.
Genghis Khan is my fourth cousin,
but I didn’t get his dimples.
My loins are loaded with banyan seeds from Sri Lanka,
but I descended from Ravanna, not Ram.
My uncle is a mastodon.
There are traces of white people in my saliva.
3.7 billion years ago I swirled in golden dust,
dreaming of a planet overgrown with lingams and yonis.
More recently, say 60,000 B.C.
I walked on hairy paws across a land bridge
joining Sweden to Botswana.
I am the bastard of the sun and moon.
I can no longer hide my heritage of raindrops and cougar scat.
I am made of your grandmother’s tears.
You conquered rival tribesmen of your own color,
chained them together, marched them naked to the coast,
and sold them to colonials from Savannah.
I was that brother you sold, I was the slave trader,
I was the chain.
Admit it, you have wings, vast and golden,
like mine, like mine.
You have sweat, black and salty,
like mine, like mine.
You have secrets silently singing in your blood,
like mine, like mine.
Don’t pretend that earth is not one family.
Don’t pretend we never hung from the same branch.
Don’t pretend we don’t ripen on each other’s breath.
Don’t pretend we didn’t come here to forgive.
- by Fred LaMotte
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WOW
Love it!!!
On a more mundane note, I have a surprise coworker in town and we are still working, I am going to be more like 7:30
Cool, can’t make it tonight but I look forward to my first proghack night in the future…!
Darshana just called me, and my schedule might mean it's not worth it to go tonight
I’m also not going to be able to make it 😞
i hope she didn’t leave her house yet
admin day ate my work hour days and i have to catch up
Sent! Btw, Barbara is trying to entice me to join you guys with links about Krewe Du Kanaval http://www.kanaval.org/ it looks rad, you should go.
@patcon @lizbarry ^^
Omg so many Krewes! New Orleans is crazy