fluidto
Hello, Herstory friends! It's been a while since we've kept in touch with you. How have you been? It's been raining heavily in Seoul, Korea. I hope that nothing happens in your area where the abnormal climate has become the new normal.No less than that, there were some ideas of project that would be fun to create a common zone with Herstory friends. I came with a few questions along with a brief introduction.
📍 *Introduction*
✔️ *We would like to propose to our friends in Herstory to join this project.*
• Create a webpage that simultaneously reads `A framework for legislation on rape (model rape law)` documents in English/Taiwan/Korean/Japanese and shows related feminist movements
• Comparison of historical changes in the Rape Law Legislation Model and show the current state in each countries.
• Wireframe https://www.figma.com/file/zfE2Rh2jCikh3hkksC5Ax9/3X3-Asia?node-id=0%3A1
• When the above site is completed, the event to be announced at the next ftO or g0v summit
*more detail is here* ▶️ proposal link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fmSNVYpo81iS5VEbzeTSX4xAhC8CkQzLooXIVINmlS4/edit?usp=sharing
ael
Wow, this is very comprehensive!
fluidto
It's been a long time ael! If you are interested in this project, could you possibly schedule a meeting time to chat by text?
fluidto
SL @sl and I mostly have time on Tuesday evenings. (PM 7:30)
ael
@kjh.appro I can help with some kickoff discussion, but I am not sure how much time I can put on this project. Tuesday 7:30 pm Korean time works for me. I shared this post to #general . I hope more will join
fluidto
Thank you enough for that! We, too, are still looking for more collaborators. We're also discussing with places like the Women Who Code (link) for example.
fluidto
If I understand correctly, could I chat with you on Tuesday, September 26th at 7:30 PM?
ael
My understanding is that Tuesday is September 27
fluidto
sorry, right. I meant September 27
fluidto
When I googled it, it said that Korea is 1 hour ahead of Taiwan.
ael
7:30 pm Korea time then
fluidto
yes! in Taiwan, 6:30.
ael
@lisa do you have time to take a look on this project? I think they need someone with a legal background to help on this. They basically want to compare the laws of Korea, Taiwan and Japan to demonstrate that changing the raping definition in laws is possible. I guess in this case, Taiwan cases may help them more.
We just had a text meeting on a forum channel in Nullfull’s discord. You can join the Discord to see our full discussion.
• Discord Invite Link https://discord.gg/xSsw8XjRXc
• This Forum Channel Link https://discord.com/channels/1011450094886850641/1024128015430582302
We just had a text meeting on a forum channel in Nullfull’s discord. You can join the Discord to see our full discussion.
• Discord Invite Link https://discord.gg/xSsw8XjRXc
• This Forum Channel Link https://discord.com/channels/1011450094886850641/1024128015430582302
ael
And welcome anyone interested in this topic to help! Please~~
ael
最近報導者深入寫了一篇韓國最近女性在地鐵被殺的事件，在跟騷案開庭前一晚，被兇手埋伏殺害。希望大家能團結起來互相交流性別和人身安全相關議題
https://www.twreporter.org/a/hello-world-2022-09-21
https://www.twreporter.org/a/hello-world-2022-09-21
Akinori Oyama
May I ask questions and share some views on Herstory and "Law Legislation Model" project despite the low participation expected for the project? I, first of all, would like to understand the project so that I could introduce the project to others. This reply is well-intended and I hope this set of questions may help me, and others even if it could be a little. Prior to this comment, I have viewed the project introduction links, and therefore, the project intro (hackmd), the site and a part of the associated effort captured in the spreadsheet, and "Law Legislation Model" UN doc. I have also briefly read "Herstory Proposal" Google doc. Let me ask you in two replies, the one for the current Herstory, and the one for "Law Legislation Model" project.
(onto the existing asset at https://herstory-of-east-asia.netlify.app/). Please direct me to where it should be addressed (in #herstory or conversation took place in other channel or tools)
Question 1: is Herstory site mainly focusing on violent incidents, news, and legal changes "have fought for" over the time (past, now, and the future)?
Question 2: is Herstory in some way related "herstory.global" which seems to aim at different causes?
Question 3: is Herstory intended not only to present the events, but also to propose/indicate the way forward about the issues? For example, the Herstory site may show where some aspects of laws are/should be progressing.
Question 4 (maybe, partly suggestion)
4-1: would it be helpful to include subjective indicators which can tell us the item is negative or is actually driving us into a better future (a case of which would be a new law enforcement is enacted or better court orders for a case)
4-2: would it be intuitive and easier to follow items if items can be visually arranged (or in a simple table representation) under certain types of frameworks about the topic. I believe there should be widely accepted standard/categorization when people would hope to talk about the issue. Of course, it could have interlinked many-to-many relationships and hierarchy in concepts. "Law Legislation Model" could guide the categorization in types/sub-types such as Article 20. 30.(b) ensuring avoidance of contact...
(onto "Law Legislation Model" project) .... Let me continue on a different reply
(onto the existing asset at https://herstory-of-east-asia.netlify.app/). Please direct me to where it should be addressed (in #herstory or conversation took place in other channel or tools)
Question 1: is Herstory site mainly focusing on violent incidents, news, and legal changes "have fought for" over the time (past, now, and the future)?
Question 2: is Herstory in some way related "herstory.global" which seems to aim at different causes?
Question 3: is Herstory intended not only to present the events, but also to propose/indicate the way forward about the issues? For example, the Herstory site may show where some aspects of laws are/should be progressing.
Question 4 (maybe, partly suggestion)
4-1: would it be helpful to include subjective indicators which can tell us the item is negative or is actually driving us into a better future (a case of which would be a new law enforcement is enacted or better court orders for a case)
4-2: would it be intuitive and easier to follow items if items can be visually arranged (or in a simple table representation) under certain types of frameworks about the topic. I believe there should be widely accepted standard/categorization when people would hope to talk about the issue. Of course, it could have interlinked many-to-many relationships and hierarchy in concepts. "Law Legislation Model" could guide the categorization in types/sub-types such as Article 20. 30.(b) ensuring avoidance of contact...
(onto "Law Legislation Model" project) .... Let me continue on a different reply
Akinori Oyama
May I ask questions and share some views on "Law Legislation Model" (herein, LLM) project despite the low participation expected for the project?
Please feel free to introduce resources to learn, if I am asking very basic, repeated questions.
Question 1: is the main purpose to "see how the same law have developed?"
Question 2: what would be additional impacts to present the framework with the past "events" (all or selected ones)? I wish to avoid giving the wrong impression, but it seems that tagging and presenting events according to the framework could need comparatively higher investment. Although I ask this question and wonder how it could be more impactful, let me save this for the space and time to discuss (maybe, not asynchronous Slack).
Question 3: Is the framework needed to be presented with all "events" or with relevant changes?
Question 4: will "Front" visualization be meant to present where each country is under the categories outlined in LLM? Will the timeline or filtered view show both the relationships between items in LLM Chapter V. and events (law, news, incidents)? I suppose this visualization shows:
a) the status of filtered items in LLM chapter V
b) the transition for one status to another status due to some event (filtered items in LLM chapter V. , maybe in icons, like :white_check_mark:🔳⚠️ or in lines with universal design color which means red to yellow, yellow to green)
c) relevant events/changes in the selected time period
I would imagine "Front" visualization could look like this (with a, b and c above)
https://www.datavis.ca/milestones/
Please feel free to introduce resources to learn, if I am asking very basic, repeated questions.
Question 1: is the main purpose to "see how the same law have developed?"
Question 2: what would be additional impacts to present the framework with the past "events" (all or selected ones)? I wish to avoid giving the wrong impression, but it seems that tagging and presenting events according to the framework could need comparatively higher investment. Although I ask this question and wonder how it could be more impactful, let me save this for the space and time to discuss (maybe, not asynchronous Slack).
Question 3: Is the framework needed to be presented with all "events" or with relevant changes?
Question 4: will "Front" visualization be meant to present where each country is under the categories outlined in LLM? Will the timeline or filtered view show both the relationships between items in LLM Chapter V. and events (law, news, incidents)? I suppose this visualization shows:
a) the status of filtered items in LLM chapter V
b) the transition for one status to another status due to some event (filtered items in LLM chapter V. , maybe in icons, like :white_check_mark:🔳⚠️ or in lines with universal design color which means red to yellow, yellow to green)
c) relevant events/changes in the selected time period
I would imagine "Front" visualization could look like this (with a, b and c above)
https://www.datavis.ca/milestones/
ael
@akinori.oyama Thank you for your questions! Do you mind if I add your questions into existing document on HackMD? Because g0v Slack messages will not be able to access after a while because we use the free plan. These questions are great. I need time to think about it. Currently the original Herstory Timeline project is not active.
ael
@kjh.appro would you like to answer @akinori.oyama ‘s questions on Law Legislation Model?
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