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bess 16:08:20

台灣華語版上線了！
https://owaranai.tokyo/zh-tw/

owaranai.tokyo

發言管理大師計時器

在會議中，您擅長管理發言時間嗎？

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Miley_c4jpn 08:18:51

International women's day!!
if you have a meeting, please try 發言管理大師計時器!!
https://owaranai.tokyo/zh-tw/

owaranai.tokyo

發言管理大師計時器

在會議中，您擅長管理發言時間嗎？

patcon 2021-03-09 04:05:46

Yeah! Note that meet.jit.si does speaker talk-time tracking, so helpful to supplement a track app (I personally like the idea of tracking it live with a webapp, as it's less passive than just reading the stat at the end of the call :) )

Miley_c4jpn 2021-03-11 00:44:04

！！

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patcon 04:05:46

Yeah! Note that meet.jit.si does speaker talk-time tracking, so helpful to supplement a track app (I personally like the idea of tracking it live with a webapp, as it's less passive than just reading the stat at the end of the call :) )

Miley_c4jpn 00:44:04

！！

bess 20:13:49

```The NGO CSW Forum is an open process, a democratic space where boys and girls, men and women can advocate for gender equality, development and peace. We are a volunteer-based organization, funded largely by donations and contributions by members and participants.```
This forum looks cool 👀
Register: https://pse.is/3cdfj5
Intro by Taiwan Tongzhi (LGBTQ+) Hotline Association: https://www.facebook.com/283023849262/posts/10158338441274263/

Image from iOS

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helloworld_bot 12:52:10

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ael 10:36:49

@flyingmars pm5’s work on cross Slack channels

https://g0v.hackmd.io/IsyNmVDnTySE-OfVhEcQMg?view

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Matterbridge Slack bot setup - HackMD

patcon 2021-03-20 13:07:24

reading now! i jumped into https://meet.jit.si/g0v-hackath43n, but don’t worry if you’ve got an IRL vibe going 🙂

pm5 2021-03-20 14:31:29

I probably don't have much to show about the project at the moment, the main difficulty being help every group install the slack app 😅 There's a mattermost instance and I'm running a matterbridge process with some configs, that's all.

pm5 2021-03-20 14:37:05

Is the translation bot going to translate among all languages (kr <-> jp, and kr <-> zh, and jp <-> zh) or is it only going to do some of them, or is there going to be some auxiliary language (like en) involved?

Mars / Kevin Chen 2021-03-20 14:40:37

I think the translation pairs needed are depends on the translation service. However, I have no idea about the translation service/api that we can use for free. Do you have any idea about the free translation service?

patcon 2021-03-20 14:45:20

ooo! just seeing this

patcon 2021-03-20 14:46:16

> Is the translation bot going to translate among all languages (kr <-> jp, and kr <-> zh, and jp <-> zh)
as i recall, it auto-detects the input language, and can translate into any language prefix that works with Google Translate

patcon 2021-03-20 14:47:23

but even if someone is speaking korean in the general-ja channel, it will still detect the proper origin language as korean for that one message, and everyone else with see the right translation. e.g., general-en will see both the ja and kr messages from general-ja as english

patcon 2021-03-20 14:48:57

like the bridge doesn’t care about the origin lang of each msg, as it auto-detects it each time. the `general-en` lang code identifier is only used to determine what lang each msg is translated INTO on the way into the `general-en` channel 🙂

patcon 2021-03-20 14:49:02

if that makes sense

patcon 2021-03-20 14:50:28

> Do you have any idea about the free translation service?
i was using Google Translate in my fork before, and had $100 in credits somehow, which were being used very slowly. Deepl is the service I’ve heard is MUCH better for every language except maybe INTO english.

patcon 2021-03-20 14:50:59

i’ve started cloning the matterbridge repo and trying to figure out whether i can still build the project after ~2yrs of not using golang 🙂

patcon 2021-03-20 14:51:17

is there a channel that we could use for conversations related to this?

patcon 2021-03-20 14:51:25

(i forget)

pm5 2021-03-20 15:09:46

yeah google translate auto-detects the language. but I'm not sure which translation service herstory or other translation app developers want to use

pm5 2021-03-20 15:16:06

better prepare an architecture for users of other services. anyway we have a mattermost instance so we be more flexible on this

pm5 2021-03-20 16:22:17

oh and I do want to make it easier for people to setup their own bridge through this project, hopefully fully automatically by answering a few questions from the bot. so yes, need some ways to connect to more sophisticated bot programs.

Mars / Kevin Chen 2021-03-20 16:32:40

> is there a channel that we could use for conversations related to this?
There’s a new opened channel #slack-apps that opened by g0v-tw slack admin, and he said that the channel can be used to discuss about anything related to the slack apps.

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patcon 13:07:24

reading now! i jumped into https://meet.jit.si/g0v-hackath43n, but don’t worry if you’ve got an IRL vibe going 🙂

pm5 14:31:29

I probably don't have much to show about the project at the moment, the main difficulty being help every group install the slack app 😅 There's a mattermost instance and I'm running a matterbridge process with some configs, that's all.

pm5 14:37:05

Is the translation bot going to translate among all languages (kr <-> jp, and kr <-> zh, and jp <-> zh) or is it only going to do some of them, or is there going to be some auxiliary language (like en) involved?

Mars / Kevin Chen 14:40:37

I think the translation pairs needed are depends on the translation service. However, I have no idea about the translation service/api that we can use for free. Do you have any idea about the free translation service?

patcon 14:45:20

ooo! just seeing this

patcon 14:46:16

> Is the translation bot going to translate among all languages (kr <-> jp, and kr <-> zh, and jp <-> zh)
as i recall, it auto-detects the input language, and can translate into any language prefix that works with Google Translate

patcon 14:47:23

but even if someone is speaking korean in the general-ja channel, it will still detect the proper origin language as korean for that one message, and everyone else with see the right translation. e.g., general-en will see both the ja and kr messages from general-ja as english

patcon 14:48:57

like the bridge doesn’t care about the origin lang of each msg, as it auto-detects it each time. the `general-en` lang code identifier is only used to determine what lang each msg is translated INTO on the way into the `general-en` channel 🙂

patcon 14:49:02

if that makes sense

patcon 14:50:28

> Do you have any idea about the free translation service?
i was using Google Translate in my fork before, and had $100 in credits somehow, which were being used very slowly. Deepl is the service I’ve heard is MUCH better for every language except maybe INTO english.

patcon 14:50:59

i’ve started cloning the matterbridge repo and trying to figure out whether i can still build the project after ~2yrs of not using golang 🙂

patcon 14:51:17

is there a channel that we could use for conversations related to this?

patcon 14:51:25

(i forget)

pm5 15:09:46

yeah google translate auto-detects the language. but I'm not sure which translation service herstory or other translation app developers want to use

pm5 15:16:06

better prepare an architecture for users of other services. anyway we have a mattermost instance so we be more flexible on this

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pm5 16:22:17

oh and I do want to make it easier for people to setup their own bridge through this project, hopefully fully automatically by answering a few questions from the bot. so yes, need some ways to connect to more sophisticated bot programs.

Mars / Kevin Chen 16:32:40

> is there a channel that we could use for conversations related to this?
There’s a new opened channel #slack-apps that opened by g0v-tw slack admin, and he said that the channel can be used to discuss about anything related to the slack apps.

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ael 03:12:00

So sad that this Feminist Hackathon is only for participants in the U.S. Nevertheless, I love the idea of paying participants to participate in an one month hackathon

https://www.ourfeministfutures.com/hackathon

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ael 13:10:28

八旗文化的總編富察說年輕女性往往沒有歷史感……

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John Huang 2021-03-24 01:18:24

> 台北故宮的臉書也搭鮭魚熱，給乾隆改名字，大致是「臉書小編行銷文化」的產物，她們一般是年輕女孩子，（抱歉我「政治不正確」，所以加上：或年輕男孩子，或中年女子，或中年男子，或跨性別無法確知年齡的人或非人。
> 她們往往歷史感薄弱，但流行嗅覺敏銳，如果從行銷「乾隆南巡桌遊」的角度看，算是成功；但因為背景平台是故宮，難免被放大檢視。
大概發現自己歧視女性，又補上了這些

明明可以寫得更精簡
> 台北故宮的臉書也搭鮭魚熱，給乾隆改名字，大致是「臉書小編行銷文化」的產物她們一般是年輕女孩子，（抱歉我「政治不正確」，所以加上：或年輕男孩子，或中年女子，或中年男子，或跨性別無法確知年齡的人或非人。
> 她們往往歷史感薄弱，但流行嗅覺敏銳，如果從行銷「乾隆南巡桌遊」的角度看，算是成功；但因為背景平台是故宮，難免被放大檢視。

John Huang 2021-03-24 01:18:47

真的是莫名其妙

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John Huang 01:18:24

> 台北故宮的臉書也搭鮭魚熱，給乾隆改名字，大致是「臉書小編行銷文化」的產物，她們一般是年輕女孩子，（抱歉我「政治不正確」，所以加上：或年輕男孩子，或中年女子，或中年男子，或跨性別無法確知年齡的人或非人。
> 她們往往歷史感薄弱，但流行嗅覺敏銳，如果從行銷「乾隆南巡桌遊」的角度看，算是成功；但因為背景平台是故宮，難免被放大檢視。
大概發現自己歧視女性，又補上了這些

明明可以寫得更精簡
> 台北故宮的臉書也搭鮭魚熱，給乾隆改名字，大致是「臉書小編行銷文化」的產物她們一般是年輕女孩子，（抱歉我「政治不正確」，所以加上：或年輕男孩子，或中年女子，或中年男子，或跨性別無法確知年齡的人或非人。
> 她們往往歷史感薄弱，但流行嗅覺敏銳，如果從行銷「乾隆南巡桌遊」的角度看，算是成功；但因為背景平台是故宮，難免被放大檢視。

John Huang 01:18:47

真的是莫名其妙

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bess 23:04:24

What the...
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/03/27/national/mori-sexist-remark-women/

The Japan Times

Disgraced ex-Olympics chief Yoshiro Mori delivers another sexist remark

Former Tokyo Games chief Yoshiro Mori, who resigned last month amid backlash over sexist remarks toward women, called a female political staffer "too old to call a woman."