#jothon
2018-12-03
wanted to share this as a possible place to build on an existing collaborative resource:
https://github.com/sparcopen/do-a-doathon
https://github.com/sparcopen/do-a-doathon
GitHub
Action for Open. Like hackathons, but more inclusive. Like events, but more impactful. Designed for those without enough time. - sparcopen/do-a-doathon
the goal of de-centering the tech aspects of the events, in favour of pure participatory culture, seems very interesting to me 🙂 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
the goal of de-centering the tech aspects of the events, in favour of pure participatory culture, seems very interesting to me 🙂 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Some of my conversations with g0v ppl has me thinking about invitations. I found a book that feels pretty wise, and thought I'd share: Chapter 11.
https://www.ofoct.com/viewer/viewer_url.php?&quality=high-resolution&fileurl=https%3A%2F%2Flibgen.pw%2Fdownload%2Fbook%2F5b8578be3a04464aeb7338e9&filetype=epub
https://www.ofoct.com/viewer/viewer_url.php?&quality=high-resolution&fileurl=https%3A%2F%2Flibgen.pw%2Fdownload%2Fbook%2F5b8578be3a04464aeb7338e9&filetype=epub
[大松門神持續徵求中~]
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有 `已經報名 12/8 大松` 的朋友願意協助擔任門神嗎？資訊所門口需要有人協助注意出入的人，剩下的就是坐在門口而已~~
時間從早上 9 點~下午 6 點
總共分 6 個時段一個時段 1.5 小時，希望一次可以任領 2 個時段XD，可以的留言喊個 +1 跟你可以幫忙的時段~~ 感恩
0900-1030 A (chhsiao1981)
1030-1200 B (Alex Su)
1200-1330 C (jimmykung)
1330-1500 D (Alex Su)
1500-1630 E (Hyperbola)
1630-1800 F (Hyperbola)
<!channel>
有 `已經報名 12/8 大松` 的朋友願意協助擔任門神嗎？資訊所門口需要有人協助注意出入的人，剩下的就是坐在門口而已~~
時間從早上 9 點~下午 6 點
總共分 6 個時段一個時段 1.5 小時，希望一次可以任領 2 個時段XD，可以的留言喊個 +1 跟你可以幫忙的時段~~ 感恩
0900-1030 A (chhsiao1981)
1030-1200 B (Alex Su)
1200-1330 C (jimmykung)
1330-1500 D (Alex Su)
1500-1630 E (Hyperbola)
1630-1800 F (Hyperbola)
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+1 0900-1030 A
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我需要有人支援食物組中午12:30到結束，因為我下午要去上課...，有人可以幫忙嗎？
@juanna 要不要講一下需要處理的事？
要不要也順便到 fb 後勤徵求一下？
這邊可以協助的來舉個手吧 ._./
這邊可以協助的來舉個手吧 ._./
我去 fb 後勤貼文
Anyone mind if I create #jothon-en and invite the translation bot in here? I won't turn on translation for my replies in there, as that could be annoying ;)
2018-12-04
@juanna 要不要講一下需要處理的事？
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要不要也順便到 fb 後勤徵求一下？
這邊可以協助的來舉個手吧 ._./
這邊可以協助的來舉個手吧 ._./
HI <!here> 徵求12/8 大松食物組伙伴，因為我中午後要上課，需要有人協助處理以下事項：
食物組中午12:30後需要處理幫忙的事:
1. 看顧用餐區桌上食物的狀況,把未上桌的披薩炸雞補上
2. 整理用餐區的桌子/食物
3. 幫忙看回收的垃圾，請大家幫忙把杯子、盤子疊起來
4. 14:00 將下午茶擺放上桌，供短講結束後使用
5. 15:00 金玉堂外燴會來收東西
6. 17:00 整理桌子，將剩餘餐點茶點平均平分配到打包盒讓會眾帶回家
7. 17:30 papago會來收茶點的餐盤 、茶桶、桌巾（通常我會收好集中，以利廠商可以迅速收走~
8. 協助場地復原~
食物組中午12:30後需要處理幫忙的事:
1. 看顧用餐區桌上食物的狀況,把未上桌的披薩炸雞補上
2. 整理用餐區的桌子/食物
3. 幫忙看回收的垃圾，請大家幫忙把杯子、盤子疊起來
4. 14:00 將下午茶擺放上桌，供短講結束後使用
5. 15:00 金玉堂外燴會來收東西
6. 17:00 整理桌子，將剩餘餐點茶點平均平分配到打包盒讓會眾帶回家
7. 17:30 papago會來收茶點的餐盤 、茶桶、桌巾（通常我會收好集中，以利廠商可以迅速收走~
8. 協助場地復原~
我去 fb 後勤貼文
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有人想捐即食粥給大松 @@ @juanna 有建議嗎？
放在旁邊讓大家自由取用可能比較省力，不過看起來有佔空間
如果有現場熱食，大家好像也會比較想吃熱食吧
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4FyJrld59I
放在旁邊讓大家自由取用可能比較省力，不過看起來有佔空間
如果有現場熱食，大家好像也會比較想吃熱食吧
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4FyJrld59I
YouTube
這次大松有將近50位新參者
有黑客松經驗的大家，請一起協助新參者囉（不穿導引媽媽黃背心沒關係 XD）
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導護媽媽 mode
第一次當門神 +1
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2018-12-05
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請問還缺門神嗎😅
想應徵 EF 時段
想應徵 EF 時段
感謝大家的協助，門神找齊了~
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2018-12-06
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@patcon 快結束來台的訪問了，下週五晚上在南港 @yutin 的新空間 Cmyking Space 有分享會，歡迎大家一起來歡送他：https://ocftw.kktix.cc/events/patcon-taipei-2018
ocftw.kktix.cc
patcon 是 g0v、vTaiwan 長期在北美的協作、觀察者，在即將結束訪台計畫的前夕，歡迎社群的朋友一起來聽聽他這段時間的觀察與心得，以及對加拿大與台灣更未來公民科技的合作發展的想法。
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可以透過 UDTalk 產生即時翻譯，但不一定精準 cc. @ttcat971
Sure let’s try?
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開放代購小潘鳳梨酥，最多收六盒裸裝，只能這週六早上大松面交呦，因為這次大松我想準備一點鳳梨酥當點心
12/7上午十點截止
12/7上午十點截止
Oh! Is there an existing or past general poster design for hackathons, that I could put up at my hostel? (its mostly Taiwanese people from outside taipei staying here)
2018-12-07
@juanna 這次人可能真的報到率比較高，食物量請你再斟酌喔
有喲，我有比以往多叫了大約四千的食物^^
@besslee 來得及請你幫忙多帶條紙杯嗎~還是都已經拿到大松了
喔喔可喔
還好咖啡也有微增量
結果我忘記拿了 XDDDD 我的錯
沒關係
明天看狀況
有喲，我有比以往多叫了大約四千的食物^^
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@besslee 來得及請你幫忙多帶條紙杯嗎~還是都已經拿到大松了
ah shoot 😞 I've been putting off translating and reading through all the hackathon instructions, and I just realized that there's a hard cutoff on pitch slots.
would it be alright to add the chat bridge as a pitch in case someone isn't able to make it?
would it be alright to add the chat bridge as a pitch in case someone isn't able to make it?
yeah just add it
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喔喔可喔
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would it be possible to discuss modifying the onebutton templates to include minimally inconvenient english translations? I'm ok to do that work, and then if it seems too cluttered or not work it, then no hard feelings if it's not merged 🙂
to experiment, I could just create copies of the templates, and then assign ownership back. I'd then create a PR pointing to the new templates for discussion 🙂
可以透過 UDTalk 產生即時翻譯，但不一定精準 cc. @ttcat971
Sure let’s try?
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@aelcenganda @felixtypingmonkey 明天協助報到的夥伴
以及排九點班門神的 @chhsiao1981
麻煩 8:40 左右中研院資訊所門口集合喔，謝謝~~
以及排九點班門神的 @chhsiao1981
麻煩 8:40 左右中研院資訊所門口集合喔，謝謝~~
門神排班，請大家記得等下一個人，確定一下是不是門神然後作換班，謝謝，顧門地點是資訊所門口
0900-1030 A (@chhsiao1981)
1030-1200 B (@minsiansu)
1200-1330 C (@jimmykung)
1330-1500 D (@minsiansu)
1500-1630 E (@paraball.97)
1630-1800 F (@paraball.97)
0900-1030 A (@chhsiao1981)
1030-1200 B (@minsiansu)
1200-1330 C (@jimmykung)
1330-1500 D (@minsiansu)
1500-1630 E (@paraball.97)
1630-1800 F (@paraball.97)
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is the "door god" translation accurate? 🙂
and is it a g0v term?
more like a doorman, patrick:)
It has a cultural reference though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menshen
This is exactly the link I was hoping for!!
我大概10點-11點間到
@jimmykung 有去換班了嗎~
有
有記得吃東西齁XD~
不要餓到ㄌ
D班了
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昨天謝謝大家幫忙！
@besslee 我來訂明天晚上大松後磚窯兩桌吃飯？
訂啊～不過我要去台南
對吼
訂，都訂！不過我要回家帶小孩
副標：在 g0v 元老都要回家帶小孩後（被打死）
生生不息++ 地瓜葉皮蛋好吃，幫我吃
I will also go home to be with my [food] baby after
（覺得明天是不是應該回家帶小孩）
好
more like a doorman, patrick:)
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訂啊～不過我要去台南
對吼
訂，都訂！不過我要回家帶小孩
副標：在 g0v 元老都要回家帶小孩後（被打死）
生生不息++ 地瓜葉皮蛋好吃，幫我吃
（覺得明天是不是應該回家帶小孩）
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好
還好咖啡也有微增量
結果我忘記拿了 XDDDD 我的錯
@ipa 有空幫忙抓一下明年大松月份嗎？新年好像是2月的樣子。
所以想要2,4,6,8,10,12 還是3，5，7，9，11 XD
所以想要2,4,6,8,10,12 還是3，5，7，9，11 XD
明年第一場暫定是3月！
對啊三月，3/9
估明年咖啡經費申請用。XD
明年第一場暫定是3月！
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對啊三月，3/9
It has a cultural reference though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menshen
Menshen or door gods are divine guardians of doors and gates in Chinese folk religions, used to protect against evil influences or to encourage the entrance of positive ones. They began as the divine pair Shenshu (Chinese: 神荼) and Yulü (Chinese: 鬱壘) under the Han, but the deified generals Qin Shubao (Chinese: 秦叔寶) and Yuchi Gong (Chinese: 尉迟恭) have been more popular since the Tang. In cases where a door god is affixed to a single door, Wei Zheng or Zhong Kui is commonly used.
沒關係
明天看狀況
2018-12-08
@daisuke 不好意思我ㄕㄨㄟˋㄍ@睡過頭 8:40 來不及到
++ (逃
@felixtypingmonkey 在路上了嗎？
我要九點半以後才能到
沒關係不要趕，路上注意安全～
++ (逃
@felixtypingmonkey 在路上了嗎？
我要九點半以後才能到
沒關係不要趕，路上注意安全～
我大概10點-11點間到
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daisuke
@jimmykung 有去換班了嗎~
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有
有記得吃東西齁XD~
不要餓到ㄌ
@fiorella https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw
@juanna 晚點是點心類有剩下再打包分給會眾就好，還是其他熟食類也要呢？
@daisuke 點心就可以了 今天熟食應該剩不多
目測會剩下麵跟紅豆湯，廚餘可以直接請廠商一起清走？
Can someone help me create a g0v slack API key?
甜點也擺盤了，可以繼續吃下一輪了(欸
甜點已經擺好嘍,可以開吃嘍!!
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你的手機鏡頭怎麼了OAO
美味濾鏡
你的手機鏡頭怎麼了OAO
美味濾鏡
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@daisuke 可以一直放到廠商來收，會眾就會陸陸續續把它吃掉
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XDD
D班了
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@minsiansu 呼叫呼叫 需要門神
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@daisuke 我這邊有點耽誤，可能要三點半才能到，不好意思😓😓
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Hackfoldr 的 slack link 是錯的， 導到 join.g0v.today
直接改改？
@ipa 一鍵開大松的 template 要改
CC @ronnywang
直接改改？
@ipa 一鍵開大松的 template 要改
CC @ronnywang
今天食物吃光光沒有剩//
桂圓小蛋糕不知道為什麼銷量不佳，最後個別帶走XP
桂圓小蛋糕不知道為什麼銷量不佳，最後個別帶走XP
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桂圓小蛋糕 其實大獲好評
應該是大家都吃飽了
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最後韓國來的女生帶了一盒當早餐XP！
我個人認為桂圓小蛋糕很好吃耶
哈哈，可能就是大家飽了XD
飽 +1
我個人認為桂圓小蛋糕很好吃耶
2018-12-09
哈哈，可能就是大家飽了XD
昨天謝謝大家幫忙！
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hey guys, quick Q, re: *g0v prototype grants*. Do government partners ever submit applications? If so, do they just go throug hthe same channels as any other applicant? cc @bess @ael
"Government partners" are not well defined in Taiwan as I know
OH sorry I just noticed this message now. As @jimmykung mentioned, what is the “government partners” you talking about? Is people in government, or private sector working with government?
no worries!
heh, well in Toronto & Canada, all our funding opportunities seem to be coordinated with tight collab of gov -- lots of "challenge" competitions focussing on problems being faced by government. I'm def not sure whether this is always a good idea, but it's how the ecosystem has been working. My sense is that this is largely due to philosophy of Code for Canada founders.
It seems the g0v grant doesn't have any particular special role for public servants (?), so I was wondering if anyone involved ever says to those inside looking to work with community, "hey, you should try to run project X as a prototype grant". I have no idea how that would work, but just wondering if it's ever happened? Like do public servants ever run prototype grant projects related to their gov work? 🙂
heh, well in Toronto & Canada, all our funding opportunities seem to be coordinated with tight collab of gov -- lots of "challenge" competitions focussing on problems being faced by government. I'm def not sure whether this is always a good idea, but it's how the ecosystem has been working. My sense is that this is largely due to philosophy of Code for Canada founders.
It seems the g0v grant doesn't have any particular special role for public servants (?), so I was wondering if anyone involved ever says to those inside looking to work with community, "hey, you should try to run project X as a prototype grant". I have no idea how that would work, but just wondering if it's ever happened? Like do public servants ever run prototype grant projects related to their gov work? 🙂
this fund is to support projects with fund and couch, while usually gov / gov partners need more about community participation, which could be covered by hackathon. so I think it will be more like this: "hey, you should try to pitch project X in g0v hackathon"
2018-12-12
"Government partners" are not well defined in Taiwan as I know
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問一下，12月還會有任何小松嗎？ 目前看來沒看到。
看看要不要來個跨年松 XD
(不過我有點猶豫要不要去綠島跨年）
飽 +1
2018-12-13
跨年松！
OH sorry I just noticed this message now. As @jimmykung mentioned, what is the “government partners” you talking about? Is people in government, or private sector working with government?
@besslee set the channel topic: 下次大松 3 月 | 與 freenode#g0v.tw 同步中 | 注意：這裡有公開紀錄，請留意個資安全 | 自己邀請自己 https://join.g0v.tw/
no worries!
heh, well in Toronto & Canada, all our funding opportunities seem to be coordinated with tight collab of gov -- lots of "challenge" competitions focussing on problems being faced by government. I'm def not sure whether this is always a good idea, but it's how the ecosystem has been working. My sense is that this is largely due to philosophy of Code for Canada founders.
It seems the g0v grant doesn't have any particular special role for public servants (?), so I was wondering if anyone involved ever says to those inside looking to work with community, "hey, you should try to run project X as a prototype grant". I have no idea how that would work, but just wondering if it's ever happened? Like do public servants ever run prototype grant projects related to their gov work? 🙂
heh, well in Toronto & Canada, all our funding opportunities seem to be coordinated with tight collab of gov -- lots of "challenge" competitions focussing on problems being faced by government. I'm def not sure whether this is always a good idea, but it's how the ecosystem has been working. My sense is that this is largely due to philosophy of Code for Canada founders.
It seems the g0v grant doesn't have any particular special role for public servants (?), so I was wondering if anyone involved ever says to those inside looking to work with community, "hey, you should try to run project X as a prototype grant". I have no idea how that would work, but just wondering if it's ever happened? Like do public servants ever run prototype grant projects related to their gov work? 🙂
2018-12-14
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2018-12-15
this fund is to support projects with fund and couch, while usually gov / gov partners need more about community participation, which could be covered by hackathon. so I think it will be more like this: "hey, you should try to pitch project X in g0v hackathon"
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2018-12-17
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2018-12-21
觀察到最近幾次黑客松有些新參者疑似吃完早餐或是午餐，聊了一下天可能還是不得進入就離開了
所以想到是否應該把新手教學匯出圖片，放在facebook社團，做成懶人包形式分享出去。這樣對新手還要開電腦開手機去找新手教學的連結登入，放在 facebook上傳閱也許還簡單一點。
也可以讓部分新參者在來大松前，可以更快地掌握幾個入門工具的註冊和使用。
所以根據子魚上次的新手教學，改了一個common版本
大家看看如果拿去放在FB後勤或是哈拉區作為懶人包圖庫覺得如何？
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13x5CGslNU3TTDO2-s2FqgzNZJys0JmDt
所以想到是否應該把新手教學匯出圖片，放在facebook社團，做成懶人包形式分享出去。這樣對新手還要開電腦開手機去找新手教學的連結登入，放在 facebook上傳閱也許還簡單一點。
也可以讓部分新參者在來大松前，可以更快地掌握幾個入門工具的註冊和使用。
所以根據子魚上次的新手教學，改了一個common版本
大家看看如果拿去放在FB後勤或是哈拉區作為懶人包圖庫覺得如何？
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13x5CGslNU3TTDO2-s2FqgzNZJys0JmDt
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Link內是原始ppt和轉出懶人包圖檔
現場遇到這類的問題主要應該還是不習慣跟不認識這種文化，即使說可以主動，除了某些比較外向的敢直接開始搭訕以外，應該大部分還是就害羞，可能還是要主動點招呼我覺得
所以我的想法是先做懶人包相簿放FB，大松前，有興趣的人可以先看先註冊操作，反正到場還會再講一次新手教學可以熟悉。至少不會吃完東西聊完天然後就不知道自己可以幹嘛就走了。
因為主動招呼實在有點困難，有的時候來的人可能難以辨認是不是新手，只能隨緣了。
覺得除了門神以外 門神還可以有Information的功能?
可能就看到游離人士撈來問問(?)
上次提了一個新手村大概四個人來問XDD
上次提了一個新手村大概四個人來問XDD
覺得需要指出誰可以被問問題
最近比較少人穿背心XD
Link內是原始ppt和轉出懶人包圖檔
2018-12-22
g0v.hackmd.io 
現場遇到這類的問題主要應該還是不習慣跟不認識這種文化，即使說可以主動，除了某些比較外向的敢直接開始搭訕以外，應該大部分還是就害羞，可能還是要主動點招呼我覺得
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所以我的想法是先做懶人包相簿放FB，大松前，有興趣的人可以先看先註冊操作，反正到場還會再講一次新手教學可以熟悉。至少不會吃完東西聊完天然後就不知道自己可以幹嘛就走了。
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因為主動招呼實在有點困難，有的時候來的人可能難以辨認是不是新手，只能隨緣了。
2018-12-25
覺得除了門神以外 門神還可以有Information的功能?
可能就看到游離人士撈來問問(?)
上次提了一個新手村大概四個人來問XDD
上次提了一個新手村大概四個人來問XDD
2018-12-26
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2018-12-28
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