#disfactory
2021-05-01
ael
00:05:31
Okay, @cstsai and I finally finished the draft of the English article on Disfactory for Common Wealth Magazine.
Help needed:
1. Title brainstorming and voting
2. Copy editing
3. Nice photos and diagrams for the article @cstsai @oriyaroriyar. I highlighted the part needing a photo in yellow.
And any other suggestions are welcomed <3
https://g0v.hackmd.io/quqiOa5LSu-amjxav_EP8Q?both
Help needed:
1. Title brainstorming and voting
2. Copy editing
3. Nice photos and diagrams for the article @cstsai @oriyaroriyar. I highlighted the part needing a photo in yellow.
And any other suggestions are welcomed <3
https://g0v.hackmd.io/quqiOa5LSu-amjxav_EP8Q?both
@sandrahtlin @caleb @liu.brandon
caleb
2021-05-01 00:28:34
yosssss
caleb
2021-05-01 00:28:50
due by when? I'm in tainan this weekend
It is supposed to be in the monthly column for April, but the editor doesn’t give any strict deadline. I think it is quite flexible because it is just an online column
@calebBTW, @cstsai said he was quite impressed that you totally got what we are doing while you only come twice so far.
caleb
2021-05-01 12:55:38
Haha do I? Thanks lol glad I hit the mark
caleb
2021-05-01 12:55:45
Maybe that's why I was so attracted to this project
caleb
2021-05-01 12:56:00
Ok I will take a look at the article tomorrow for some copy editing
caleb
2021-05-02 18:32:33
when i make blanket changes, you can see and revert them if you disagree, right?
caleb
2021-05-02 18:32:38
i'm worried if i'm blowing away someone else's work
deeper
2021-05-04 09:58:23
About the diagram kind of hard to decide how would be clearer for the reader, need help!
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ri0regSUG24nLPG6MZEIAA3GkGcfxvfh_aURV5vHkxY/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ri0regSUG24nLPG6MZEIAA3GkGcfxvfh_aURV5vHkxY/edit?usp=sharing
deeper
2021-05-04 10:00:12
遇到的問題
1.要用實照嗎?
2.三步驟對民眾是a.拍照、b.標記、c.上傳,還是要a.拍照、b.標記上傳、c.CET幫檢舉
3.一些排版、挑插畫抉擇兩難XD
1.要用實照嗎?
2.三步驟對民眾是a.拍照、b.標記、c.上傳,還是要a.拍照、b.標記上傳、c.CET幫檢舉
3.一些排版、挑插畫抉擇兩難XD
deeper
2021-05-04 10:01:04
@wutingy @sandrahtlin
I like the first on lol
1. I think photos are better than illustration
2. I think it is important to put CET reports in the loop
1. I think photos are better than illustration
2. I think it is important to put CET reports in the loop
caleb
2021-05-04 10:08:49
Ok! Lemme take a look in about an hour
Or we should state as how Disfactory works
caleb
2021-05-04 13:26:22
what's the objective?
caleb
2021-05-04 13:26:32
a full on instructional or just like, demonstrate how easy disfactory is to use?
caleb
2021-05-04 13:27:01
also, in terms of text placement, immediatley under the numbers makes the most sense to me. As for bolding or not, I don't think it really matters, but i lean torwards no bolding
to visualize the report flow process
caleb
2021-05-04 13:29:33
hmm. when you say that, it makes me think more about what happens *after* i use disfactory to report a factor, i.e., CET files the report, it gets looked at by some beaurucrat, eventually the cops go to the factory and start getting a little mao zedong on the landowner
What? what is little mao zedong ?
caleb
2021-05-04 13:34:15
> The *Chinese Land Reform Movement*, also known by the Chinese abbreviation *Tǔgǎi* (土改), was a campaign by the Communist Party leader Mao Zedong during the late phase of the Chinese Civil War and the early People's Republic of China.[1] The campaign involved mass murder of landlords by tenants and land redistribution to the peasantry.[
caleb
2021-05-04 13:34:18
just a joke
caleb
2021-05-04 13:34:21
like the cops tear shit down
caleb
2021-05-04 13:35:01
some of my leftist friends will joke about going Mao on their landlord if they increase rent too much or something
take a photo-> mark the location on Disfactory-> CET files the report after review -> government sends someone over and reply to CET whether or not the building is under illegal usage and thier next actions-> CET update the status on Disfactory and call the government agency if they find the government are making excuses. The reports are also used as statistics in press release, public hearings, and closed door meetings to pressure the government on the issue.
caleb
2021-05-04 13:35:32
why did that promipt a card captor sakura
because the word r e l e a s e
deeper
2021-05-04 13:36:47
Release in name of Caleb
@caleb It is totally not an appropriate joke for me. Many people died in Tǔgǎi (土改) because the authority encouraged “the peasants” to start the class warfare against the landlord as far as to kill them.
We are NOT targeting any individuals, neither the landlords nor the factory owners. We are NOT trying to make them as enemy deserve to be beaten to death or derive their property right.
We are NOT targeting any individuals, neither the landlords nor the factory owners. We are NOT trying to make them as enemy deserve to be beaten to death or derive their property right.
caleb
2021-05-04 13:44:02
ok ok lol sorry
caleb
2021-05-04 13:44:07
i didn't mean to imply that
caleb
2021-05-04 13:45:04
that corresponds with typical usage i.e. it falls into a class of hyperbole.
caleb
2021-05-04 13:45:38
but i'll bear it in mind considering that some taiwanese are descendants of people that fled the land reform movement 👀
caleb
2021-05-04 13:46:49
> take a photo-> mark the location on Disfactory-> CET files the report after review -> government sends someone over and reply to CET whether or not the building is under illegal usage and thier next actions-> CET update the status on Disfactory and call the government agency if they find the government are making excuses. The reports are also used as statistics in press release, public hearings, and closed door meetings to pressure the government on the issue.
is this what we want to focus on in the visualization then? cause we only talk about uploading a pic etc
is this what we want to focus on in the visualization then? cause we only talk about uploading a pic etc
No, that’s not because of my ancestors, who actually had nothing to do with the Land Reform in China at that time. It is like joking to do a little bit Nazi in a community project in any non-white neighborhood.
caleb
2021-05-04 13:53:48
Ok, I hear you and apologize
Anyway, back to the diagram. I wrote out the whole process, but I think a simplified version is better. That will be @cstsai’s decision on which key steps to illustrate for readers.
caleb
2021-05-04 13:58:11
well if it's from a user's perspective i again bounce back to the idea of really they only do 2 things
caleb
2021-05-04 13:58:41
or maybe 3 insomuch as they take a pic, put a pin on the map, and then presumably fill out some information, then submit
@caleb Thank you for your copy editing and many great suggestions on the article! FTI, We now want to lock the copy editing unless there are obvious grammar and spelling mistakes. (Thank you again on all editing) The rest of the work now is to get the diagrams and photos right
caleb
2021-05-04 14:00:36
oh ok
caleb
2021-05-04 14:00:59
i'll check again later for any grammar issues
caleb
2021-05-04 14:01:12
is it difficult to revert any changes i made? sorry abou tthat
@caleb BTW, did you already add i18n on Disfactory.tw? I am not sure if it is merged
caleb
2021-05-04 20:45:41
Oh haha wow aaah no unfortunately I actually forgot about that ticket 😅
caleb
2021-05-04 20:45:57
I haven't had the time I want to have on contributing sadly
caleb
2021-05-04 21:54:06
I would love to take that task on though
ael
00:06:32
@sandrahtlin @caleb @liu.brandon
caleb
00:28:34
yosssss
caleb
00:28:50
due by when? I'm in tainan this weekend
ael
00:36:41
It is supposed to be in the monthly column for April, but the editor doesn’t give any strict deadline. I think it is quite flexible because it is just an online column
ael
00:38:25
@calebBTW, @cstsai said he was quite impressed that you totally got what we are doing while you only come twice so far.
caleb
12:55:38
Haha do I? Thanks lol glad I hit the mark
caleb
12:55:45
Maybe that's why I was so attracted to this project
caleb
12:56:00
Ok I will take a look at the article tomorrow for some copy editing
deeper
14:38:01
城市學
你居住城市綠地多嗎?行政院農業委員會林業試驗所使用國家太空研究中心提供的福衛五號衛星影像,快速計算出臺北市、新北市、桃園市、臺中市、臺南市及高雄市六都都會區的綠覆率。結果發現臺南市居冠,新北綠覆率最低。![]()
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ael
17:54:49
覺得在報稅手機版上管理使用者的期待也許可以參考 @wutingy,例如我們只處理農地上的違章工廠,非農地和農地上的海產店都不處理
https://link.medium.com/isPMfTNVTfb
https://link.medium.com/isPMfTNVTfb
我看看
Tin
18:01:10
我看看
2021-05-02
caleb
17:29:26
Just finished practicing for my scooter test, will copyedit after dinner!
ael
17:34:01
Figma
Ideate, brainstorm, diagram, moodboard, and more. FigJam is easy to use and collaborative by design.![]()
caleb
2021-05-02 18:33:48
we used this: https://jamboard.google.com/ when i worked at Potato
We actually already tried jamboard in last week meetup lol
caleb
2021-05-02 20:52:44
Haha oh
👌
caleb
18:32:33
when i make blanket changes, you can see and revert them if you disagree, right?
caleb
18:32:38
i'm worried if i'm blowing away someone else's work
caleb
18:33:48
we used this: https://jamboard.google.com/ when i worked at Potato
caleb
19:31:58
Ok, I took a pass at copy editing! so well written, great work
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Yes, there have been several firefighters died in the fire of illegal factories in several cases. The Association of Firefighters hosted a press release with CET to accuse government’s incompetence to illegal factories.
ael
20:51:13
We actually already tried jamboard in last week meetup lol
caleb
20:52:44
Haha oh
ael
20:56:38
Yes, there have been several firefighters died in the fire of illegal factories in several cases. The Association of Firefighters hosted a press release with CET to accuse government’s incompetence to illegal factories.
2021-05-03
Tin
09:55:35
👌
2021-05-04
deeper
09:58:23
About the diagram kind of hard to decide how would be clearer for the reader, need help!
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ri0regSUG24nLPG6MZEIAA3GkGcfxvfh_aURV5vHkxY/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ri0regSUG24nLPG6MZEIAA3GkGcfxvfh_aURV5vHkxY/edit?usp=sharing
deeper
10:00:12
遇到的問題
1.要用實照嗎?
2.三步驟對民眾是a.拍照、b.標記、c.上傳,還是要a.拍照、b.標記上傳、c.CET幫檢舉
3.一些排版、挑插畫抉擇兩難XD
1.要用實照嗎?
2.三步驟對民眾是a.拍照、b.標記、c.上傳,還是要a.拍照、b.標記上傳、c.CET幫檢舉
3.一些排版、挑插畫抉擇兩難XD
deeper
10:01:04
@wutingy @sandrahtlin
ael
10:01:47
I like the first on lol
1. I think photos are better than illustration
2. I think it is important to put CET reports in the loop
1. I think photos are better than illustration
2. I think it is important to put CET reports in the loop
caleb
10:08:49
Ok! Lemme take a look in about an hour
swind
12:19:48
@aelcenganda @cstsai 抱歉我這星期公司那邊有點忙到要炸掉,所以這星期的小聚就沒有辦法過去了~
- 😢1
- 💪2
- 🇹🇼1
加油!!!
deeper
2021-05-04 13:11:32
沒問題~~~
ael
12:42:46
加油!!!
deeper
13:11:32
沒問題~~~
ael
13:26:11
Or we should state as how Disfactory works
caleb
13:26:22
what's the objective?
caleb
13:26:32
a full on instructional or just like, demonstrate how easy disfactory is to use?
caleb
13:27:01
also, in terms of text placement, immediatley under the numbers makes the most sense to me. As for bolding or not, I don't think it really matters, but i lean torwards no bolding
ael
13:27:51
to visualize the report flow process
caleb
13:29:33
hmm. when you say that, it makes me think more about what happens *after* i use disfactory to report a factor, i.e., CET files the report, it gets looked at by some beaurucrat, eventually the cops go to the factory and start getting a little mao zedong on the landowner
ael
13:30:09
What? what is little mao zedong ?
caleb
13:34:15
> The *Chinese Land Reform Movement*, also known by the Chinese abbreviation *Tǔgǎi* (土改), was a campaign by the Communist Party leader Mao Zedong during the late phase of the Chinese Civil War and the early People's Republic of China.[1] The campaign involved mass murder of landlords by tenants and land redistribution to the peasantry.[
caleb
13:34:18
just a joke
caleb
13:34:21
like the cops tear shit down
caleb
13:35:01
some of my leftist friends will joke about going Mao on their landlord if they increase rent too much or something
ael
13:35:14
take a photo-> mark the location on Disfactory-> CET files the report after review -> government sends someone over and reply to CET whether or not the building is under illegal usage and thier next actions-> CET update the status on Disfactory and call the government agency if they find the government are making excuses. The reports are also used as statistics in press release, public hearings, and closed door meetings to pressure the government on the issue.
caleb
13:35:32
why did that promipt a card captor sakura
ael
13:35:56
because the word r e l e a s e
deeper
13:36:47
Release in name of Caleb
ael
13:43:42
@caleb It is totally not an appropriate joke for me. Many people died in Tǔgǎi (土改) because the authority encouraged “the peasants” to start the class warfare against the landlord as far as to kill them.
We are NOT targeting any individuals, neither the landlords nor the factory owners. We are NOT trying to make them as enemy deserve to be beaten to death or derive their property right.
We are NOT targeting any individuals, neither the landlords nor the factory owners. We are NOT trying to make them as enemy deserve to be beaten to death or derive their property right.
caleb
13:44:02
ok ok lol sorry
caleb
13:44:07
i didn't mean to imply that
caleb
13:45:04
that corresponds with typical usage i.e. it falls into a class of hyperbole.
caleb
13:45:38
but i'll bear it in mind considering that some taiwanese are descendants of people that fled the land reform movement 👀
caleb
13:46:49
> take a photo-> mark the location on Disfactory-> CET files the report after review -> government sends someone over and reply to CET whether or not the building is under illegal usage and thier next actions-> CET update the status on Disfactory and call the government agency if they find the government are making excuses. The reports are also used as statistics in press release, public hearings, and closed door meetings to pressure the government on the issue.
is this what we want to focus on in the visualization then? cause we only talk about uploading a pic etc
is this what we want to focus on in the visualization then? cause we only talk about uploading a pic etc
ael
13:49:40
No, that’s not because of my ancestors, who actually had nothing to do with the Land Reform in China at that time. It is like joking to do a little bit Nazi in a community project in any non-white neighborhood.
caleb
13:53:48
Ok, I hear you and apologize
ael
13:55:17
Anyway, back to the diagram. I wrote out the whole process, but I think a simplified version is better. That will be @cstsai’s decision on which key steps to illustrate for readers.
caleb
13:58:11
well if it's from a user's perspective i again bounce back to the idea of really they only do 2 things
caleb
13:58:41
or maybe 3 insomuch as they take a pic, put a pin on the map, and then presumably fill out some information, then submit
ael
13:59:34
@caleb Thank you for your copy editing and many great suggestions on the article! FTI, We now want to lock the copy editing unless there are obvious grammar and spelling mistakes. (Thank you again on all editing) The rest of the work now is to get the diagrams and photos right
caleb
14:00:36
oh ok
caleb
14:00:59
i'll check again later for any grammar issues
caleb
14:01:12
is it difficult to revert any changes i made? sorry abou tthat
caleb
18:34:48
Motorcycle還是car嗎?我昨天考Motorcycle的考試
ael
18:41:31
@caleb BTW, did you already add i18n on Disfactory.tw? I am not sure if it is merged
caleb
20:45:41
Oh haha wow aaah no unfortunately I actually forgot about that ticket 😅
caleb
20:45:57
I haven't had the time I want to have on contributing sadly
caleb
21:54:06
I would love to take that task on though
2021-05-05
SL
12:15:51
我今天也請假嗚嗚,下禮拜一定去
Aaron
13:32:59
我腸胃炎gg
YAlgorithm
17:59:23
我今天荷蘭假日所以就先不參加小聚了喔
ael
18:18:43
抱歉我今天也要線上 ><
yukai
19:08:01
<!here> 大家有空可以幫我玩玩看這個連結的 Disfactory 嗎?測試新增工廠的第一步:拉到黑色 -> 提示不在農地範圍;拉到透明 -> 可以進下一步:
https://deploy-preview-102--dreamy-dijkstra-527e49.netlify.app/#map=17.04/120.10155861717031/23.233300423703128
https://deploy-preview-102--dreamy-dijkstra-527e49.netlify.app/#map=17.04/120.10155861717031/23.233300423703128
Disfactory
2020/3/20《工廠管理輔導法》正式上路,要政府兌現新建農地違章工廠即報即拆之承諾,輔導中、高污染工廠遷廠。請加入吹哨者行列,協助上傳照片、追蹤公文,一同守護台灣農地,把乾淨的糧食生產環境留給下一代!![]()
yukai
2021-05-05 19:16:36
@aelcenganda Firefox 支援,在我電腦的 FF 應該修掉了
Firefox Safari OK
zyan951231
2021-05-12 16:12:40
Hi @yukai & All,我昨晚做了 新增工廠 的user testing(user是我),從抵達網頁到完成任務(新增工廠但未上傳圖片)大約花了三分鐘左右。
測試過程有用螢幕錄製下來,影片連結:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mjmhRmPI4wUT3xxqoL0X2PKcxR3D6WeJ?usp=sharing
_*請注意音量大小/忽略一些奇怪的語助詞(逃)_
_*為抱持一般使用者瀏覽網頁的習慣,並沒有給自己設定目標要快速完成任務。_
觀察到以下幾點:
1)無法當下識別紅色點 = 我
2)對「可標示(黑色) 」或「不可標示(透明)」地區感到混淆
反省:可能我開始testing前就被提示「拉到黑色 -> 提示不在農地範圍;拉到透明 -> 可以進下一步」限制住,所以一開始花額外的時間在瀏覽頁面哪裡有黑色或透明的東西,而不是一開始就點選 CTA(我想新增可疑工廠)。
Solution(待補):
1)紅色點 —— 模仿google map 的 my location?
2)可標示/不可標示的地區—— 可否有錯誤提示來增加使用者信心(實際案例還要找,像是紅框強調可標示地點)
3)是否可多3~5個 user testing 看看有哪些重疊的情況,再優化設計/流程
以上提供大家參考~~謝謝
測試過程有用螢幕錄製下來,影片連結:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mjmhRmPI4wUT3xxqoL0X2PKcxR3D6WeJ?usp=sharing
_*請注意音量大小/忽略一些奇怪的語助詞(逃)_
_*為抱持一般使用者瀏覽網頁的習慣,並沒有給自己設定目標要快速完成任務。_
觀察到以下幾點:
1)無法當下識別紅色點 = 我
2)對「可標示(黑色) 」或「不可標示(透明)」地區感到混淆
反省:可能我開始testing前就被提示「拉到黑色 -> 提示不在農地範圍;拉到透明 -> 可以進下一步」限制住,所以一開始花額外的時間在瀏覽頁面哪裡有黑色或透明的東西,而不是一開始就點選 CTA(我想新增可疑工廠)。
Solution(待補):
1)紅色點 —— 模仿google map 的 my location?
2)可標示/不可標示的地區—— 可否有錯誤提示來增加使用者信心(實際案例還要找,像是紅框強調可標示地點)
3)是否可多3~5個 user testing 看看有哪些重疊的情況,再優化設計/流程
以上提供大家參考~~謝謝
yukai
2021-05-12 20:06:13
here
yukai
19:16:36
@aelcenganda Firefox 支援,在我電腦的 FF 應該修掉了
ael
19:18:51
Firefox Safari OK
deeper
19:32:18
今日小聚連結:https://meet.google.com/coc-vuaa-ykz
今日小聚紀錄:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@yukaii/Disfactory/%2FDrrdQEpBSQKi2i6rnxkhuA
今日小聚紀錄:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@yukaii/Disfactory/%2FDrrdQEpBSQKi2i6rnxkhuA
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我最開始是6月底從Yale Chen的影片《6種被動收入點子分享》看到他介紹這個app 他的結論是他都不走路,所以推薦給常走路的人~ 我就覺得我超適合的!因為我每天上下班都各走15分鐘的路 中午出門買...![]()
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20:33:29
ndltd.ncl.edu.tw
本研究以群眾外包探究公民政治參與、實踐民主的可能。台灣另類媒體「沃草有限公司」,其具備新媒體特質,影響台灣公民參與政治的方式。從「沃草」發展自社會運動的脈絡,受到資金的贊助,成立實體公司並陸續開始執行專案。之後,公司也歷經信任危機,更換過執行長,並重新取得大眾的信任。「沃草」如何組成,從人力、資金、運作執行,並研究其專案執行上與群眾外包,甚至與審議民主之間的關聯性。研究發現,群眾外包強調以網路作為群眾參與的重要場域,給予審議民主在網路上發展的可能。國外諸多群眾外包案例並非完全適用於台灣,但可以成為「沃草」參考對象。群眾外包模式不論由上而下、由下而上,或公私協作,必須以公民為最重要主體,並以參與為主要目的,公民科技的使用為輔助。「沃草」發展屬於台灣在地的群眾外包模式,包括網路線上能量累積,再擴張現下舉辦實體活動,並擔任政府與公民間的平台蒐集民意。讓參與政治有趣化,藉著專案的執行進行一場台灣公民教育,長期監督政府的社會運動。
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Tin
20:50:38
Figma
Ideate, brainstorm, diagram, moodboard, and more. FigJam is easy to use and collaborative by design.![]()
Tin
20:51:05
Kuan Yu
22:52:59
嗨大家好,我是冠伃,是地公高辦志工,目前在高雄寫前端。剛看前端的 repo 是 TS 寫的,目前還沒寫過 TS,感覺要花時間熟悉一下,希望接下來有機會幫到忙 :)
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2021-05-06
ael
11:00:44
很有趣,來研究 g0v 的目前社會所學生 Sam 有驚訝的觀察是, fun is very important in g0v community. 大家有覺得 Disfactory 好玩嗎 🥺
https://hackmd.io/@en5bBuSOSvKdMhZUCaoFyQ/Taiwaninsightfun
https://hackmd.io/@en5bBuSOSvKdMhZUCaoFyQ/Taiwaninsightfun
HackMD
# Taiwan Insight Article draft 歡迎給意見 **Fun Politics and the Politics of Fun in Taiwan’s g0v Commun
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2021-05-07
caleb
13:26:31
Ok! I've just quit one of my contracts, so finally I have plenty of time. I shall go to github to see if there's any high priority issues I can work on, or maybe someone can recommend something?
caleb
2021-05-07 13:26:43
hindsight... maybe i should have secretly sub-contracted this <.<
caleb
2021-05-07 13:26:45
oh well lol
@yukai , do you have any front end issues in mind? But hey, do we finish the cluster thing?
yukai
2021-05-07 19:51:45
The cluster feature was not finished yet. We can continue this @caleb 💪
caleb
2021-05-10 16:11:47
yesss let's do it!
caleb
2021-05-10 16:12:04
my project i "finished" got broken by the backend engineer and so the contract i thought i had quit, i'm not allowed to quit yet lmao
caleb
2021-05-10 16:12:16
but i WILL make time this week for disfactory
caleb
13:26:43
hindsight... maybe i should have secretly sub-contracted this <.<
caleb
13:26:45
oh well lol
ael
15:27:55
@yukai , do you have any front end issues in mind? But hey, do we finish the cluster thing?
yukai
19:51:45
The cluster feature was not finished yet. We can continue this @caleb 💪
2021-05-10
ael
12:10:04
5/22(六)的 g0v 黑客松開放報名囉!下次黑客松是七月在台中。希望有工程師或設計師大大去玩,不然問我技術問題我都不知道,很難留人下來
https://g0v-jothon.kktix.cc/events/g0v-hackath44n
https://g0v-jothon.kktix.cc/events/g0v-hackath44n
g0v-jothon.kktix.cc
g0v 第肆拾肆次大黑客松將在 2021.05.22(六)於中研院資訊所舉辦,歡迎公民、鄉民、憤青等諸眾,帶著熱血來盡一己之力,開源協作參與社會。![]()
這次報名有點太踴躍,好像剩不到十張票 XD 我在想,可以把衛星圖比較這件事帶到黑客松去問一般人的反應或是測試 mockup。以及可以有個很簡單的入門坑,幫我們做地圖介面或專案介紹的翻譯 ><
caleb
16:11:47
yesss let's do it!
caleb
16:12:04
my project i "finished" got broken by the backend engineer and so the contract i thought i had quit, i'm not allowed to quit yet lmao
caleb
16:12:16
but i WILL make time this week for disfactory
ael
23:17:32
Replied to a thread: 2021-05-10 12:10:04
這次報名有點太踴躍,好像剩不到十張票 XD 我在想,可以把衛星圖比較這件事帶到黑客松去問一般人的反應或是測試 mockup。以及可以有個很簡單的入門坑,幫我們做地圖介面或專案介紹的翻譯 ><
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2021-05-11
deeper
08:55:28
我那天有朋友婚禮QAQQ
Carmen
11:15:21
disfactory的大家,
明天5/11星期三晚上的小聚,
想問大家的意願。
我是否能請日本節目組那邊,
用動態截取的方式,
在Google Meet上錄大家討論的聲音跟電腦桌面,
所以先問有意願在明天小聚出席的各位。
節目組可以在「不同意露出的與會者名字&大頭照上打馬賽克(馬掉)」,
要收錄小聚的聲音&畫面主要目的是:
想呈現除了兩個月一次的大松之外,
每周的小聚大家也還蠻積極參與的,
請問明晚會參與的各位(不論線上參與或親自到場)意下如何呢?
5/11的小聚
需要遮大頭貼&姓名的能否給我個→🥸
不需要遮名字&大頭貼的能否給我個→🙌
讓我在說明一下,會動態錄下討論的聲音跟畫面影像,但是用在播報影像上只會用到精華的那5~10秒。
明天5/11星期三晚上的小聚,
想問大家的意願。
我是否能請日本節目組那邊,
用動態截取的方式,
在Google Meet上錄大家討論的聲音跟電腦桌面,
所以先問有意願在明天小聚出席的各位。
節目組可以在「不同意露出的與會者名字&大頭照上打馬賽克(馬掉)」,
要收錄小聚的聲音&畫面主要目的是:
想呈現除了兩個月一次的大松之外,
每周的小聚大家也還蠻積極參與的,
請問明晚會參與的各位(不論線上參與或親自到場)意下如何呢?
5/11的小聚
需要遮大頭貼&姓名的能否給我個→🥸
不需要遮名字&大頭貼的能否給我個→🙌
讓我在說明一下,會動態錄下討論的聲音跟畫面影像,但是用在播報影像上只會用到精華的那5~10秒。
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實際上小聚才是主要開發的地方唷,大松不會大家都去。每週三晚上的小聚是線上線下一起,所以線下小聚討論聚會也是有實景可以拍的
建議你可以用 emoji 來讓大家表態自己願不願意露出名字和大頭貼
tobyliu
2021-05-11 20:44:23
明天是5/12對不對?
@tobyliu 對
tobyliu
2021-05-11 20:51:21
那我也要久違地出席一下
然後抓好頭髮來開視訊會議
ael
11:21:54
實際上小聚才是主要開發的地方唷,大松不會大家都去。每週三晚上的小聚是線上線下一起,所以線下小聚討論聚會也是有實景可以拍的
ael
11:22:32
建議你可以用 emoji 來讓大家表態自己願不願意露出名字和大頭貼
macpaul
12:47:15
@macpaul has joined the channel
Oriyar
19:45:02
*明晚(5/12)小聚照常,下週甜點小聚延期*
嗨嗨大家,疫情再起,明天小聚實體現場採量體溫+洗手,戴口罩、不提供零食共食(但自己帶食物來吃是ok的)(所以線上實體都可以參加小聚噢)。然後,下週原訂外出天母取材的甜點小聚,先延期呦~延到哪天還不一定,請對甜點有興趣的大家(保證去了絕對不後悔)可以先填表單,讓我用 mail 通知以及再揪適合的時間。
嗨嗨大家,疫情再起,明天小聚實體現場採量體溫+洗手,戴口罩、不提供零食共食(但自己帶食物來吃是ok的)(所以線上實體都可以參加小聚噢)。然後,下週原訂外出天母取材的甜點小聚,先延期呦~延到哪天還不一定,請對甜點有興趣的大家(保證去了絕對不後悔)可以先填表單,讓我用 mail 通知以及再揪適合的時間。
Google Docs
升糖指數破表的夜晚,大腦還有辦法寫程式嗎! 2021/5/19(三)19:00 Weiss Cafe (Weiß, a Flügel studio space) x Disfactory * 不確定什麼口味但一定會有蛋糕吃 * 預計每位參與者分擔 $100-150元,多退少補![]()
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Carmen
2021-05-11 22:14:26
忘記5月19日是小聚外出取材日😱
這樣明天是播出前唯一可以錄小聚電腦螢幕畫面的機會...
台灣疫情再起,日本也完全沒好到哪去⋯
中午到剛剛請日本同仁幫忙協助錄備份用的螢幕動態擷取,居然兩個會錄的到現在都沒吭聲....自己挖的企劃坑我要自立自強,明天晚上請容許我自己用筆電錄製嘿!
這樣明天是播出前唯一可以錄小聚電腦螢幕畫面的機會...
台灣疫情再起,日本也完全沒好到哪去⋯
中午到剛剛請日本同仁幫忙協助錄備份用的螢幕動態擷取,居然兩個會錄的到現在都沒吭聲....自己挖的企劃坑我要自立自強,明天晚上請容許我自己用筆電錄製嘿!
@carmenkuo0628 小海的意思是,5/19 我們不去甜點店了,但是小聚照常
Carmen
2021-05-12 13:53:38
喔喔!了解!謝謝你
但今天晚上還是會想辦法收錄,不想放棄任何機會🙇♀️🏻
但今天晚上還是會想辦法收錄,不想放棄任何機會🙇♀️🏻
Carmen
2021-05-12 14:03:57
另外想請教會議連結也是今天會議開始前會釋出嗎?
是喔,但其實每次都是同一個連結
Carmen
2021-05-12 14:34:13
😅真不好意思, 我參加了兩次都沒留意到連結同一個
tobyliu
20:44:23
明天是5/12對不對?
ael
20:49:45
@tobyliu 對
tobyliu
20:51:21
那我也要久違地出席一下
ael
20:56:21
然後抓好頭髮來開視訊會議
deeper
21:16:14
https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=2982
我們在天下上面的英文版介紹上線啦🎊 歡迎各位以後分享給非中文世界的捧油
Many thanks to @sandrahtlin @liu.brandon @caleb, @aelcenganda, and of course, every contributor in the project, hope we have represent each of your voice appropriately!
我們在天下上面的英文版介紹上線啦🎊 歡迎各位以後分享給非中文世界的捧油
Many thanks to @sandrahtlin @liu.brandon @caleb, @aelcenganda, and of course, every contributor in the project, hope we have represent each of your voice appropriately!
CommonWealth Magazine
Taiwan is losing 1500 hectares of farmland through illegal usage per year. How does Disfactory by g0v use open source technology to solve the problem?![]()
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YAlgorithm
2021-05-12 16:30:03
I shared this with my TU Delft colleagues. Thanks!
Carmen
22:14:26
Replied to a thread: 2021-05-11 19:45:02
忘記5月19日是小聚外出取材日😱
這樣明天是播出前唯一可以錄小聚電腦螢幕畫面的機會...
台灣疫情再起,日本也完全沒好到哪去⋯
中午到剛剛請日本同仁幫忙協助錄備份用的螢幕動態擷取,居然兩個會錄的到現在都沒吭聲....自己挖的企劃坑我要自立自強,明天晚上請容許我自己用筆電錄製嘿!
這樣明天是播出前唯一可以錄小聚電腦螢幕畫面的機會...
台灣疫情再起,日本也完全沒好到哪去⋯
中午到剛剛請日本同仁幫忙協助錄備份用的螢幕動態擷取,居然兩個會錄的到現在都沒吭聲....自己挖的企劃坑我要自立自強,明天晚上請容許我自己用筆電錄製嘿!
2021-05-12
ael
02:50:26
@carmenkuo0628 小海的意思是,5/19 我們不去甜點店了,但是小聚照常
zyan951231
13:38:21
嗨大家好,我是子妍,對 UI UX 充滿熱情並且在自學中。
希望可以加入 disfactory 的專案跟大家學習,也希望自己對於 UI 的技能能夠派得上用場,請大家多多指教啦 😄
希望可以加入 disfactory 的專案跟大家學習,也希望自己對於 UI 的技能能夠派得上用場,請大家多多指教啦 😄
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ael
14:06:50
是喔,但其實每次都是同一個連結
Carmen
14:34:13
😅真不好意思, 我參加了兩次都沒留意到連結同一個
zyan951231
16:12:40
Hi @yukai & All,我昨晚做了 新增工廠 的user testing(user是我),從抵達網頁到完成任務(新增工廠但未上傳圖片)大約花了三分鐘左右。
測試過程有用螢幕錄製下來,影片連結:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mjmhRmPI4wUT3xxqoL0X2PKcxR3D6WeJ?usp=sharing
_*請注意音量大小/忽略一些奇怪的語助詞(逃)_
_*為抱持一般使用者瀏覽網頁的習慣,並沒有給自己設定目標要快速完成任務。_
觀察到以下幾點:
1)無法當下識別紅色點 = 我
2)對「可標示(黑色) 」或「不可標示(透明)」地區感到混淆
反省:可能我開始testing前就被提示「拉到黑色 -> 提示不在農地範圍;拉到透明 -> 可以進下一步」限制住,所以一開始花額外的時間在瀏覽頁面哪裡有黑色或透明的東西,而不是一開始就點選 CTA(我想新增可疑工廠)。
Solution(待補):
1)紅色點 —— 模仿google map 的 my location?
2)可標示/不可標示的地區—— 可否有錯誤提示來增加使用者信心(實際案例還要找,像是紅框強調可標示地點)
3)是否可多3~5個 user testing 看看有哪些重疊的情況,再優化設計/流程
以上提供大家參考~~謝謝
測試過程有用螢幕錄製下來,影片連結:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mjmhRmPI4wUT3xxqoL0X2PKcxR3D6WeJ?usp=sharing
_*請注意音量大小/忽略一些奇怪的語助詞(逃)_
_*為抱持一般使用者瀏覽網頁的習慣,並沒有給自己設定目標要快速完成任務。_
觀察到以下幾點:
1)無法當下識別紅色點 = 我
2)對「可標示(黑色) 」或「不可標示(透明)」地區感到混淆
反省:可能我開始testing前就被提示「拉到黑色 -> 提示不在農地範圍;拉到透明 -> 可以進下一步」限制住,所以一開始花額外的時間在瀏覽頁面哪裡有黑色或透明的東西,而不是一開始就點選 CTA(我想新增可疑工廠)。
Solution(待補):
1)紅色點 —— 模仿google map 的 my location?
2)可標示/不可標示的地區—— 可否有錯誤提示來增加使用者信心(實際案例還要找,像是紅框強調可標示地點)
3)是否可多3~5個 user testing 看看有哪些重疊的情況,再優化設計/流程
以上提供大家參考~~謝謝
YAlgorithm
16:30:03
I shared this with my TU Delft colleagues. Thanks!
ael
16:55:16
<!here> Hi,我剛剛跟 @oriyaroriyar 和 @cstsai 討論之後,覺得🚨今天實體小聚還是先取消改為全線上🚨,畢竟這次沒有什麼最好一定要實體討論的東西。(今天才取消主要原因是多起病例為未知感染源)
我 tag 一下說今天可能會來的人, @swind @f46284628 @yoyo930021 @yukai @wutingy @sandrahtlin @carmenkuo0628 @zyan951231 @jsaon92 @szyeefun @jiahe.lin @aaronverywin
待會線上見!很抱歉臨時取消實體改全線上
@caleb we just cancel the offline meetup tonight. See you online after 7:30 if you want to join the meetup:wink:
我 tag 一下說今天可能會來的人, @swind @f46284628 @yoyo930021 @yukai @wutingy @sandrahtlin @carmenkuo0628 @zyan951231 @jsaon92 @szyeefun @jiahe.lin @aaronverywin
待會線上見!很抱歉臨時取消實體改全線上
@caleb we just cancel the offline meetup tonight. See you online after 7:30 if you want to join the meetup:wink:
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YAlgorithm
2021-05-12 16:55:44
我也會參加喔
swind
2021-05-12 17:07:16
嗯嗯我也覺得全線上很好,沒有問題。我們公司也提早下班閃人潮了
我預設固定線上 XD 實在太懶得出們
LittleWhiteYA
2021-05-12 17:26:53
好~
caleb
2021-05-12 18:02:25
ya i was gonna say
caleb
2021-05-12 18:02:33
i have to be careful because i hang with foreigners and foreigners are disease ridden mofos lmfao
caleb
2021-05-12 18:02:41
so i don't want to give anybody anything
Yeefun Lin
2021-05-12 18:54:52
今天有事不會出現~
jiahe
2021-05-12 19:21:17
家裡有活動,不會出現
YAlgorithm
16:55:44
我也會參加喔
swind
17:07:16
嗯嗯我也覺得全線上很好,沒有問題。我們公司也提早下班閃人潮了
ael
17:11:38
還有,為了今天為媒體側拍錄影的需求,今天我想用 Jit.si 免得去改 Google account 名稱和頭像很麻煩。 @carmenkuo0628 你可以先測試一下,就是個一般的視訊會議軟體。要用手機連進來的人需要先下載 Jit.si App
今日會議連結,一樣 19:30 線上開始
Click the following link to join the meeting:
https://meet.jit.si/DisfactoryIsAwesome
今日會議連結,一樣 19:30 線上開始
Click the following link to join the meeting:
https://meet.jit.si/DisfactoryIsAwesome
@hsu.yenchia 抱歉我今天想換另一個視訊會議平台
Carmen
2021-05-12 17:23:29
我剛用了...可以看到自己, 但不曉得大家上了線是甚麼樣的畫面呈現耶...Sorry我科技麻瓜
@carmenkuo0628 我 18:45 可以先上線陪你測試
Carmen
2021-05-12 17:52:36
可以提前嗎?我18:30~19:00有個關於申請採訪軍方的回覆會議😅
那我們 19:00 開始測試?反正大家也不會 19:30 準時上線 XD
Carmen
2021-05-12 17:58:05
感謝
Carmen
2021-05-12 19:03:22
我可以測試囉
我和 deeper 都已經在裡面囉
@tobyliu 你在哪~~
ael
17:12:17
@hsu.yenchia 抱歉我今天想換另一個視訊會議平台
Carmen
17:14:07
今天在外面移動來移動去,都把酒精當香水噴了十幾回
Tin
17:17:54
我預設固定線上 XD 實在太懶得出們
Carmen
17:23:29
我剛用了...可以看到自己, 但不曉得大家上了線是甚麼樣的畫面呈現耶...Sorry我科技麻瓜
ael
17:24:46
@carmenkuo0628 我 18:45 可以先上線陪你測試
LittleWhiteYA
17:26:53
好~
Carmen
17:52:36
可以提前嗎?我18:30~19:00有個關於申請採訪軍方的回覆會議😅
ael
17:57:46
那我們 19:00 開始測試?反正大家也不會 19:30 準時上線 XD
Carmen
17:58:05
感謝
caleb
18:02:25
ya i was gonna say
caleb
18:02:33
i have to be careful because i hang with foreigners and foreigners are disease ridden mofos lmfao
caleb
18:02:41
so i don't want to give anybody anything
ael
18:32:15
@aelcenganda set the channel description: !此為公開頻道,注意不要洩漏個資!相關網址:
測試網址: https://dev.disfactory.tw
Disfactory 跳坑指南: https://g0v.hackmd.io/@yukaii/Disfactory
Disfactory 跳坑指南備援: https://beta.hackfoldr.org/Disfactory/
GitHub Repo: https://github.com/Disfactory/Disfactory
測試網址: https://dev.disfactory.tw
Disfactory 跳坑指南: https://g0v.hackmd.io/@yukaii/Disfactory
Disfactory 跳坑指南備援: https://beta.hackfoldr.org/Disfactory/
GitHub Repo: https://github.com/Disfactory/Disfactory
ael
18:41:51
今日議程:
1. 介紹日本節目側錄線上會議 @carmenkuo0628
2. 議題新發展 @cstsai
3. 歡迎新朋友 @zyan951231
4. 現有 map 的 issue GitHub 上過一遍
• 後台權限(我覺得不適合錄影)
• 經濟部資料
• 既有的 bug 和 usability
• Cluster
5. 衛星比對上週討論成果分享(因為這個感覺比較發散)
1. 介紹日本節目側錄線上會議 @carmenkuo0628
2. 議題新發展 @cstsai
3. 歡迎新朋友 @zyan951231
4. 現有 map 的 issue GitHub 上過一遍
• 後台權限(我覺得不適合錄影)
• 經濟部資料
• 既有的 bug 和 usability
• Cluster
5. 衛星比對上週討論成果分享(因為這個感覺比較發散)
Yeefun Lin
18:54:52
今天有事不會出現~
Carmen
19:03:22
我可以測試囉
Carmen
19:04:56
不適合錄影的部分, 請告訴我, 我們會剪掉
ael
19:08:05
我和 deeper 都已經在裡面囉
jiahe
19:21:17
家裡有活動,不會出現
ael
19:30:43
@tobyliu 你在哪~~
ael
20:19:54
zyan: Hi <https://github.com/YUKAI|@YUKAI> & All,我昨晚做了 新增工廠 的user testing(user是我),從抵達網頁到完成任務(新增工廠但未上傳圖片)大約花了三分鐘左右。 測試過程有用螢幕錄製下來,影片連結:<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mjmhRmPI4wUT3xxqoL0X2PKcxR3D6WeJ?usp=sharing|https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mjmhRmPI4wUT3xxqoL0X2PKcxR3D6WeJ?usp=sharing> *請注意音量大小/忽略一些奇怪的語助詞(逃) *為抱持一般使用者瀏覽網頁的習慣,並沒有給自己設定目標要快速完成任務。 觀察到以下幾點: 1)無法當下識別紅色點 = 我 2)對「可標示(黑色) 」或「不可標示(透明)」地區感到混淆 反省:可能我開始testing前就被提示「拉到黑色 -> 提示不在農地範圍;拉到透明 -> 可以進下一步」限制住,所以一開始花額外的時間在瀏覽頁面哪裡有黑色或透明的東西,而不是一開始就點選 CTA(我想新增可疑工廠)。 Solution(待補): 1)紅色點 —— 模仿google map 的 my location? 2)可標示/不可標示的地區—— 可否有錯誤提示來增加使用者信心(實際案例還要找,像是紅框強調可標示地點) 3)是否可多3~5個 user testing 看看有哪些重疊的情況,再優化設計/流程 以上提供大家參考~~謝謝
Tin
20:29:20
https://miro.com/
Scalable, secure, cross-device and enterprise-ready team collaboration whiteboard for distributed teams. Join 10M+ users from around the world![]()
SL
20:42:41
(幫轉貼)
推薦好玩的小遊戲,前端/設計師歡迎來試試看自己可以score多少XD:
https://cantunsee.space/
1)測試到最後有ranking層級,例如:4000~5500分為beginner;5501~7000分為 designer;7001分以上為 platinum(前5%)etc.
設計簡潔,有獎勵機制。
推薦好玩的小遊戲,前端/設計師歡迎來試試看自己可以score多少XD:
https://cantunsee.space/
1)測試到最後有ranking層級,例如:4000~5500分為beginner;5501~7000分為 designer;7001分以上為 platinum(前5%)etc.
設計簡潔,有獎勵機制。
cantunsee.space
A game where you need to pick the design that is most correct. Test your attention to details!![]()
ael
20:44:28
ael
20:49:31
晏嘉之前 data annotation 的 code
https://github.com/yenchiah/video-labeling-tool
https://github.com/CMU-CREATE-Lab/video-labeling-tool
https://github.com/yenchiah/video-labeling-tool
https://github.com/CMU-CREATE-Lab/video-labeling-tool
ael
20:59:08
YAlgorithm
21:01:04
喔然後我想到一個美國NGO在做fracking對環境影響的
YAlgorithm
21:01:05
FracTracker Alliance
FracTracker Alliance studies, maps, & communicates the risks of oil & gas development to protect our planet & support the renewable energy transformation.![]()
YAlgorithm
21:01:22
可能可以當作參考
deeper
21:06:34
這個網頁也是做上下
tobyliu
21:10:39
5/12 日語會議記錄備份
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tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:10:56
Zyan さんは初めてこの会議に参加してます。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:11:07
昨年、農地に新しく建設された違法工場に対する2回目の法改正がありました。 違法工場を報告するための新しいプロセスが導入され、私たち(CET)は、報告プロセスを体系化するための「Disfactory」と言うプロジェクトを提案するNGOです。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:11:14
地方自治体は報告された工場に対して行動を起こすことが難しい理由について、中央政府と話し合っています。 倉庫として使用されている工場や建設中の工場と言う状況もあります。 私たちは当局をプッシュするための追加の法源を考えています。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:11:23
現在、私たちはまだ新築の違法工場に焦点を合わせています。 最近、ソーラーパネルの設置などによって合法化される既存の違法工場の新しい措置がありました。 既存のものは、私たちがここで目指していないので、直接的に関係がありません。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:11:31
フロントエンド側でいくつかの技術的なタスクとバグについて話し合っています。 初心者メンバーは私たちが使用している技術スタック(TypeScript)に精通しておらず、入門のタスクを紹介しています。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:11:38
Zyanさんは、現在の通報システムのユーザーインターフェイスを使用しているときに見つかった不具合のところの画面記録を共有しています。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:11:51
農地を地図上に表示する方法は、このプロジェクトに困っているどころです。 ただいま共有されている問題については、まずはgithubへの統合するようにしましょう。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:12:17
マップで通報された工場はクラスターのように表示を示しています。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:12:28
バックエンドの問題はまだいくつかありますが、とりあえず衛星写真を介して新しく建設された違法工場を見つけるというトピックにしましょう。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:12:38
農地に新しく建設された違法な工場は、衛星写真の歴史によって発見することが可能です。 ただし、比較前後の写真がたくさんあります。 私たちはゲーム化を考えており、バッジを獲得するために工場を見つけてプレイヤーに互いに競争すると言うデザインです。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:12:45
CETはまた、違法な工場を通報する証拠として衛星写真を添付するよう地方自治体から要請されました。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:12:53
違法な工場に証拠として本物の写真がない場合は、ゲーミフィケーションの一環として本物の写真を撮ってユーザーに賞を与えたいと考えています。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:13:01
画像アノテーションをクラウドソーシングのために、メカニズムを設計する方法について話し合っています。 Yen-Chia さんは、煙の注釈に関する以前のシステムを共有しています。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:13:10
Yen-Chiaさんは、画像に煙のあるかとかを選んでもらうと言う注釈ツール「ProjectRISE」を提案した。 彼らは、ユーザーの注釈が信頼できるのが確認するために、一部の答えある画像を混ぜ合わせました。 さらに、煙の定義で画像を区別する方法をユーザーに教えたいから、詳細なチュートリアルを設計しました。
tobyliu
2021-05-12 21:13:18
これはバックエンドにとって大きなプロジェクトではないようです。 最も苦労しているのは画像の収集かもしれません。 特定の時間の衛星写真の中には、雲に覆われているものがよくあります。 私たちは、2つの時点で近くの時間枠の写真をあげることを考えています。
Carmen
2021-05-12 22:38:38
感謝你!
tobyliu
21:10:56
Zyan さんは初めてこの会議に参加してます。
tobyliu
21:11:07
昨年、農地に新しく建設された違法工場に対する2回目の法改正がありました。 違法工場を報告するための新しいプロセスが導入され、私たち(CET)は、報告プロセスを体系化するための「Disfactory」と言うプロジェクトを提案するNGOです。
tobyliu
21:11:14
地方自治体は報告された工場に対して行動を起こすことが難しい理由について、中央政府と話し合っています。 倉庫として使用されている工場や建設中の工場と言う状況もあります。 私たちは当局をプッシュするための追加の法源を考えています。
tobyliu
21:11:23
現在、私たちはまだ新築の違法工場に焦点を合わせています。 最近、ソーラーパネルの設置などによって合法化される既存の違法工場の新しい措置がありました。 既存のものは、私たちがここで目指していないので、直接的に関係がありません。
tobyliu
21:11:31
フロントエンド側でいくつかの技術的なタスクとバグについて話し合っています。 初心者メンバーは私たちが使用している技術スタック(TypeScript)に精通しておらず、入門のタスクを紹介しています。
tobyliu
21:11:38
Zyanさんは、現在の通報システムのユーザーインターフェイスを使用しているときに見つかった不具合のところの画面記録を共有しています。
tobyliu
21:11:51
農地を地図上に表示する方法は、このプロジェクトに困っているどころです。 ただいま共有されている問題については、まずはgithubへの統合するようにしましょう。
tobyliu
21:12:17
マップで通報された工場はクラスターのように表示を示しています。
tobyliu
21:12:28
バックエンドの問題はまだいくつかありますが、とりあえず衛星写真を介して新しく建設された違法工場を見つけるというトピックにしましょう。
tobyliu
21:12:38
農地に新しく建設された違法な工場は、衛星写真の歴史によって発見することが可能です。 ただし、比較前後の写真がたくさんあります。 私たちはゲーム化を考えており、バッジを獲得するために工場を見つけてプレイヤーに互いに競争すると言うデザインです。
tobyliu
21:12:45
CETはまた、違法な工場を通報する証拠として衛星写真を添付するよう地方自治体から要請されました。
tobyliu
21:12:53
違法な工場に証拠として本物の写真がない場合は、ゲーミフィケーションの一環として本物の写真を撮ってユーザーに賞を与えたいと考えています。
tobyliu
21:13:01
画像アノテーションをクラウドソーシングのために、メカニズムを設計する方法について話し合っています。 Yen-Chia さんは、煙の注釈に関する以前のシステムを共有しています。
tobyliu
21:13:10
Yen-Chiaさんは、画像に煙のあるかとかを選んでもらうと言う注釈ツール「ProjectRISE」を提案した。 彼らは、ユーザーの注釈が信頼できるのが確認するために、一部の答えある画像を混ぜ合わせました。 さらに、煙の定義で画像を区別する方法をユーザーに教えたいから、詳細なチュートリアルを設計しました。
tobyliu
21:13:18
これはバックエンドにとって大きなプロジェクトではないようです。 最も苦労しているのは画像の収集かもしれません。 特定の時間の衛星写真の中には、雲に覆われているものがよくあります。 私たちは、2つの時点で近くの時間枠の写真をあげることを考えています。
tobyliu
21:17:14
google earth engine 似乎不用錢
> How much does it cost?
> Earth Engine is free for research, education, and nonprofit use. For commercial applications, we offer paid commercial licenses. Please contact for details.
https://earthengine.google.com/faq/
> How much does it cost?
> Earth Engine is free for research, education, and nonprofit use. For commercial applications, we offer paid commercial licenses. Please contact for details.
https://earthengine.google.com/faq/
earthengine.google.com
Google Earth Engine combines a multi-petabyte catalog of satellite imagery and geospatial datasets with planetary-scale analysis capabilities and makes it available for scientists, researchers, and developers to detect changes, map trends, and quantify differences on the Earth's surface.![]()
- 🤩2
1- 🤑1
tobyliu
21:21:43
@wutingy 也可以試試看 paper prototyping 
https://www.uxpin.com/studio/blog/paper-prototyping-the-practical-beginners-guide/
https://www.uxpin.com/studio/blog/paper-prototyping-the-practical-beginners-guide/
Studio by UXPin
Know when, how, and why you should paper prototype. Tips, templates, and resources included.![]()
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zyan951231
21:30:54
對,手機版是上下,網頁版左右。
yukai
21:36:32
@sandrahtlin @wutingy https://github.com/Disfactory/frontend/issues/73#issuecomment-839778090
Clustering screencast 貼在這裡~
Clustering screencast 貼在這裡~
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- 🙌1
ael
22:25:21
我們後來清 GitHub 想起一個很重要的功能,就是可以寄信給回報的人 follow up。工程師評估過技術可行性 loading 不會太大可以做,看各位設計師要怎樣排進你們的分工 schedule 裡。這個功能的起源是訪談過的使用者很希望知道回報後有沒有舉報
https://github.com/Disfactory/Disfactory/issues/475
https://github.com/Disfactory/Disfactory/issues/475
*Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.* 舉報人缺乏一些回饋感(「咦,我剛剛有舉報成功嗎?然後呢?」) *Describe the solution you'd like* 在舉報人成功新增之後,寄一封 email 或簡訊吿知他們說,「嘿,我們收到你的舉報囉!」
ael
22:26:29
設計師我理解的分工部分:
@wutingy 衛星 mockup 測試
@sandrahtlin cluster pins
@zyan951231 把 usability 測一遍
@wutingy 衛星 mockup 測試
@sandrahtlin cluster pins
@zyan951231 把 usability 測一遍
ael
22:26:53
然後我五月會忙爆,接下來兩週可能不會出現
Carmen
22:38:38
感謝你!
2021-05-13
Tin
11:44:57
@aelcenganda
設計檔案拆成三個,不知道這個要放在 github 的哪裡比較合適?wiki?? 類似筆記本的感覺
1. disfactory: https://www.figma.com/file/dFuJKpdDcmHNDqdj1011Zo/Disfactory_UI_design_2021?node-id=2097%3A8774
2. about.disfactory: https://www.figma.com/file/vnvt7JjXrRcXZlqLoW2vCZ/About.Disfactory?node-id=0%3A1
3. 衛星空照圖: https://www.figma.com/file/TVAEC28E3ojabGHc8BawbI/%E8%A1%9B%E6%98%9F%E7%A9%BA%E7%85%A7%E5%9C%96?node-id=0%3A2
設計檔案拆成三個,不知道這個要放在 github 的哪裡比較合適?wiki?? 類似筆記本的感覺
1. disfactory: https://www.figma.com/file/dFuJKpdDcmHNDqdj1011Zo/Disfactory_UI_design_2021?node-id=2097%3A8774
2. about.disfactory: https://www.figma.com/file/vnvt7JjXrRcXZlqLoW2vCZ/About.Disfactory?node-id=0%3A1
3. 衛星空照圖: https://www.figma.com/file/TVAEC28E3ojabGHc8BawbI/%E8%A1%9B%E6%98%9F%E7%A9%BA%E7%85%A7%E5%9C%96?node-id=0%3A2
deeper
2021-05-13 12:12:28
我先丟上hackmd唷?應ㄍ
deeper
2021-05-13 12:12:35
應該不會有什麼問題ㄅ
deeper
12:12:28
我先丟上hackmd唷?應ㄍ
deeper
12:12:35
應該不會有什麼問題ㄅ
ael
12:53:22
Hey, 我們下次線上小聚要不要試試這個,比較適合分組帶開討論,然後又可以走來走去。我覺得線上單一會議室都讓我很擔心我在逼迫大家聽其他討論,不能好好做事或開小視窗討論
https://gather.town/
https://gather.town/
gather.town
Gather is a video-calling space that lets multiple people hold separate conversations in parallel, walking in and out of those conversations just as easily as they would in real life.![]()
- 🤘3
Guo-Jim
2021-05-13 13:24:27
這個跟那時候線上揪松的2D會議室是同一套系統嗎?還是那是 Ronny 他們自己做的?
走來走去聽起來很好玩
caleb
2021-05-14 19:56:45
我的朋友做(made?)那個!!
caleb
2021-05-14 19:56:59
在Potato我們常常用
caleb
2021-05-14 19:57:11
裡面可以騎計程車
caleb
2021-05-14 19:57:19
How TF do you say bicycle
caleb
2021-05-14 19:57:24
You can ride a bicycle in the game it's fun lol
可以騎腳踏車
yukai
2021-05-15 19:32:45
推推,這幾天玩上癮,我可以先用地圖編輯器做一個北辦
下面紫色那兩塊是什麼
yukai
2021-05-15 20:17:44
紫色是 private space,當做分隔的會議室
Hmm,通常會有三個小視窗?前端、後端、設計?
連結先給啦,我想要放可以放簡報的地方,哈哈
或是外加一個小海的民宿這樣 XD 其實還有一個可以睡覺的小房間
yukai
2021-05-15 20:25:49
可以做二樓 XD
yukai
2021-05-15 20:45:17
他的 spotlight 也可以手動指定數個人 🤩
Guo-Jim
2021-05-15 21:16:12
@ronnywang 這個感覺跟2D會議室很像(?)
caleb
2021-05-15 21:17:28
🙄
Guo-Jim
2021-05-15 21:18:30
It says that the mobile version is in beta tho
caleb
2021-05-15 21:18:56
On chrome yea
caleb
2021-05-15 21:19:15
I bet all the devs use MacBooks and drink bluebottle
caleb
2021-05-15 21:19:20
;)
這也太可愛了吧!!!!!
這也太可愛了吧!!!!!
突然好期待開會
caleb
2021-05-15 21:41:22
我也
ichieh
2021-05-16 01:01:05
對,可以去觸發投影幕超讚的!
Aaron
2021-05-17 14:29:37
好酷喔~~
deeper
2021-05-17 16:33:40
XDDDD 手腳太快了吧哈哈哈ㄚ
Guo-Jim
13:24:27
這個跟那時候線上揪松的2D會議室是同一套系統嗎?還是那是 Ronny 他們自己做的?
Tin
15:40:06
走來走去聽起來很好玩
2021-05-14
canadian_aaron
05:44:02
@canadian_aaron has joined the channel
caleb
19:56:45
我的朋友做(made?)那個!!
caleb
19:56:59
在Potato我們常常用
caleb
19:57:11
裡面可以騎計程車
caleb
19:57:19
How TF do you say bicycle
caleb
19:57:24
You can ride a bicycle in the game it's fun lol
ael
20:00:41
可以騎腳踏車
2021-05-15
ael
20:14:41
下面紫色那兩塊是什麼
yukai
20:17:44
紫色是 private space,當做分隔的會議室
ael
20:22:07
Hmm,通常會有三個小視窗?前端、後端、設計?
ael
20:22:40
連結先給啦,我想要放可以放簡報的地方,哈哈
ael
20:23:28
或是外加一個小海的民宿這樣 XD 其實還有一個可以睡覺的小房間
yukai
20:25:49
可以做二樓 XD
yukai
20:45:17
他的 spotlight 也可以手動指定數個人 🤩
Guo-Jim
21:16:12
@ronnywang 這個感覺跟2D會議室很像(?)
caleb
21:17:28
🙄
Guo-Jim
21:18:30
It says that the mobile version is in beta tho
caleb
21:18:56
On chrome yea
caleb
21:19:15
I bet all the devs use MacBooks and drink bluebottle
caleb
21:19:20
;)
Tin
21:38:51
這也太可愛了吧!!!!!
Tin
21:38:51
這也太可愛了吧!!!!!
Tin
21:40:29
突然好期待開會
caleb
21:41:22
我也
2021-05-16
ichieh
01:01:05
對,可以去觸發投影幕超讚的!
2021-05-17
Aaron
14:29:37
好酷喔~~
mario
15:21:26
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deeper
16:33:40
XDDDD 手腳太快了吧哈哈哈ㄚ
2021-05-18
JasonCK
00:45:20
@x13244231 has joined the channel
Kevin C
15:30:13
@kvn.0218 has joined the channel
deeper
16:11:19
@pisces has joined the channel
2021-05-19
Tin
18:45:58
衛星空照圖初步的 wireframe: https://www.figma.com/proto/TVAEC28E3ojabGHc8BawbI/%E8%A1%9B%E6%98%9F%E7%A9%BA%E7%85%A7%E5%9C%96?node-id=50%3A2&scaling=min-zoom&page-id=0%3A2
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我覺得答案為:是,的比例太低了,看有沒有必要穿插答案為「是」的已知問題在其中
Tin
18:57:56
我覺得答案為:是,的比例太低了,看有沒有必要穿插答案為「是」的已知問題在其中
yukai
19:22:07
Disfactory gather town: https://gather.town/i/JlwNH9J9
gather.town
Gather is a video-calling space that lets multiple people hold separate conversations in parallel, walking in and out of those conversations just as easily as they would in real life.![]()
zyan951231
19:22:29
我也會晚一點
caleb
19:22:52
My piece of shit computer crashed one second
Tin
19:32:22
我八點前到
Kuan Yu
19:48:59
我還在看公司的扣,請假一次
ael
19:52:59
我還在開會,大家先開始
caleb
20:16:52
you can't hear me?
caleb
20:20:17
i don't know what's wrong with my micorsphone lol
Tin
20:20:35
it’s broken
ael
20:57:23
My talk on Disfactory in English on May 25~
下週二台灣時間晚上十點在線上,我會在 TICTeC 一個國際公民科技會議上分享 Disfactory 7 分鐘,同場其他的專案都是用地理資訊和社群協作,都滿酷的,大家可以線上註冊免費票券來聽聽,總共時長一小時。
我晚一點會把投影片草稿連結放上來。
https://tictec.mysociety.org/showandtells/2021
下週二台灣時間晚上十點在線上,我會在 TICTeC 一個國際公民科技會議上分享 Disfactory 7 分鐘,同場其他的專案都是用地理資訊和社群協作,都滿酷的,大家可以線上註冊免費票券來聽聽,總共時長一小時。
我晚一點會把投影片草稿連結放上來。
https://tictec.mysociety.org/showandtells/2021
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My slides of the 7 min talk on Tuesday about product development of Disfactory. (I am still working on it)
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bDPSGApM9Oico9e41JFx9ky4ud5SMQYgDKRHBtFPEgU/edit#slide=id.p
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bDPSGApM9Oico9e41JFx9ky4ud5SMQYgDKRHBtFPEgU/edit#slide=id.p
caleb
2021-05-25 14:47:49
Would you like any help?
@caleb just someone to cowork online. I am just procrastinating
caleb
2021-05-25 14:50:04
Hahahah
caleb
2021-05-25 14:50:11
I will be happy to help there
caleb
2021-05-25 14:50:19
I'm at the hospital but will be home in half an hour
caleb
2021-05-25 15:32:54
ok, what can i do to help
Just finish first draft lol Going to have dinner first
caleb
2021-05-25 19:20:35
Ok!
ael
20:59:46
@yoyo930021 六個月又快到了,可以幫忙打一下 IMGUR 嗎 ><
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@swind 可以給我新的 imgur 圖片列表嗎?
deeper
2021-05-26 21:40:24
@swind
swind
2021-05-26 21:40:47
好喔,讓我生一下
swind
2021-05-26 21:47:07
喔喔我發現 @deeper 就就可以生 csv 出來給你了
Imgur 打完了
LittleWhiteYA
21:11:07
有事忘記說ㄌ
deeper
21:57:55
空拍圖prototype測試結果回報文件 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XYAw5NKJtNeLWQI4q9oR-ihx5Eqzl88PFPPRWyIB9vU/edit?usp=sharing
找不到的話可以去第77次小聚找到
找不到的話可以去第77次小聚找到
3
zyan951231
2021-05-25 13:44:01
有新增一個測試回饋哩
deeper
2021-05-25 18:13:13
感謝 @zyan951231!
deeper
2021-05-25 18:13:31
我今天先找到兩個人測試
明天會再多找一些
明天會再多找一些
deeper
2021-05-25 18:14:18
大家如果在線上聊天找不到話題(?)也可以請他測試一下 然後照下面格式填一下紀錄!
測試者(身份):
測驗時間:
流程:
測試者心得:
觀察者心得&建議:
測試者(身份):
測驗時間:
流程:
測試者心得:
觀察者心得&建議:
deeper
2021-05-25 18:14:50
大家如果在線上聊天找不到話題(?)也可以請他測試一下 然後照下面格式填一下紀錄!
> 測試者(身份):
> 測驗時間:
> 流程:
> 測試者心得:
> 觀察者心得&建議:
> 測試者(身份):
> 測驗時間:
> 流程:
> 測試者心得:
> 觀察者心得&建議:
我發現最好要記一下對方每一題的答案,才知道怎樣的圖大家容易搞混
zyan951231
2021-05-25 19:22:38
這樣的話是不是要詢問測試者願不願意螢幕錄製,或是共享畫面由我們錄製~
然後測試前一定要告知測試者使用目的,讓對方知道測試過程&對話&內容都會被公開,不然會有倫理問題@@
然後測試前一定要告知測試者使用目的,讓對方知道測試過程&對話&內容都會被公開,不然會有倫理問題@@
如果要錄製螢幕的話沒錯,需要以上流程~~
但也可以手動快速記下
zyan951231
2021-05-26 11:06:08
好~~
ael
23:01:25
有辦法 redirect 這個網址到正確網站嗎 http://www.disfactory.tw/
disfactory.tw
This domain name has been registered with <http://Gandi.net|Gandi.net>. It is currently parked by the owner.
Carmen
23:16:24
See w
Carmen
23:23:45
明天榮幸地借助@cstsai帶我們去農地違章工廠現場進行實地recheck。會有對他與系統匿名通報者的採訪,然後列了想細問的一些問題,希望可拍到查當地周遭的實際照片 or Google景象,所以發現時已經來不及參加小聚
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2021-05-20
Guo-Jim
01:22:21
@guo-jim has left the channel
Guo-Jim
07:22:41
@guo-jim has joined the channel
deeper
07:34:39
沒有~
IU
10:11:09
@swind 可以給我新的 imgur 圖片列表嗎?
swind
14:35:53
這個需要有 DNS 管理權限的人設定。可能要 call 一下 @yoyo930021
IU
14:42:32
你們試試看
ael
17:02:34
@yoyo930021 成功了,謝謝!
Linc
21:08:55
@turtlelin1210 has joined the channel
2021-05-24
Tin
11:00:53
@cstsai https://www.figma.com/proto/TVAEC28E3ojabGHc8BawbI/%E8%A1%9B%E6%98%9F%E7%A9%BA%E7%85%A7%E5%9C%96?node-id=50%3A2&scaling=min-zoom&page-id=0%3A2
prototype 已經可以點擊了
prototype 已經可以點擊了
太美了~~我只有覺得教學的部分,點擊應該是要跟著正確答案走。點了正確答案後才會下一個
喔喔喔 要做這麼高級喔!!我有空再出一版
現在不用啦,之後再說
我移除了「下一個」按鈕,直接讓他點選答案往下
目前衛星圖對照大家來找碴的部分,前端要拜託 @szyeefun 了,後端想問 @swind @f46284628 @jsaon92 @tobyliu 誰有興趣參與討論負責規劃 API
LittleWhiteYA
2021-05-26 21:45:33
會另外拉一個會議討論嗎?
LittleWhiteYA
2021-05-26 21:46:05
我好像可以~
小白我們剛剛想看你測試頁面
配上聲音!
deeper
2021-05-26 21:53:06
你們現在可以上來
deeper
2021-05-26 21:53:09
他上線ㄌㄜˊ
deeper
2021-05-26 21:53:13
sharescreen正在玩
Yeefun Lin
2021-05-27 20:59:39
@aelcenganda 最近有想轉寫後端(過去有用過 Python 寫爬蟲,也寫過 MySQL),因此也想參與這次 API 的設計,昨天有把後端專案在本地跑起來,研究了一下架構,但還有些事情不太明白,下週三會再向後端請教
Wow~~~~~~~~
deeper
11:02:36
Incredible
deeper
11:02:48
好好玩!
deeper
11:03:11
我來修一下文案
deeper
11:03:19
然後就可以找人測試了
caleb
11:31:01
Did anybody go to the online hackathon? How was it?
zyan951231
13:17:16
耶等下給室友測試一下
johan
20:20:16
@johan has joined the channel
2021-05-25
ael
00:22:51
Replied to a thread: 2021-05-19 20:57:23
My slides of the 7 min talk on Tuesday about product development of Disfactory. (I am still working on it)
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bDPSGApM9Oico9e41JFx9ky4ud5SMQYgDKRHBtFPEgU/edit#slide=id.p
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bDPSGApM9Oico9e41JFx9ky4ud5SMQYgDKRHBtFPEgU/edit#slide=id.p
zyan951231
13:44:01
有新增一個測試回饋哩
caleb
14:47:49
Would you like any help?
ael
14:48:39
@caleb just someone to cowork online. I am just procrastinating
caleb
14:50:04
Hahahah
caleb
14:50:11
I will be happy to help there
caleb
14:50:19
I'm at the hospital but will be home in half an hour
caleb
15:32:54
ok, what can i do to help
ael
16:06:27
太美了~~我只有覺得教學的部分,點擊應該是要跟著正確答案走。點了正確答案後才會下一個
ael
18:08:56
Just finish first draft lol Going to have dinner first
deeper
18:13:13
感謝 @zyan951231!
deeper
18:13:31
我今天先找到兩個人測試
明天會再多找一些
明天會再多找一些
deeper
18:14:18
大家如果在線上聊天找不到話題(?)也可以請他測試一下 然後照下面格式填一下紀錄!
測試者(身份):
測驗時間:
流程:
測試者心得:
觀察者心得&建議:
測試者(身份):
測驗時間:
流程:
測試者心得:
觀察者心得&建議:
deeper
18:14:50
Replied to a thread: 2021-05-19 21:57:55
大家如果在線上聊天找不到話題(?)也可以請他測試一下 然後照下面格式填一下紀錄!
> 測試者(身份):
> 測驗時間:
> 流程:
> 測試者心得:
> 觀察者心得&建議:
> 測試者(身份):
> 測驗時間:
> 流程:
> 測試者心得:
> 觀察者心得&建議:
caleb
19:20:35
Ok!
zyan951231
19:22:38
這樣的話是不是要詢問測試者願不願意螢幕錄製,或是共享畫面由我們錄製~
然後測試前一定要告知測試者使用目的,讓對方知道測試過程&對話&內容都會被公開,不然會有倫理問題@@
然後測試前一定要告知測試者使用目的,讓對方知道測試過程&對話&內容都會被公開,不然會有倫理問題@@
2021-05-26
Tin
10:46:35
如果要錄製螢幕的話沒錯,需要以上流程~~
Tin
10:46:49
但也可以手動快速記下
Tin
11:03:47
喔喔喔 要做這麼高級喔!!我有空再出一版
zyan951231
11:06:08
好~~
ael
11:14:19
現在不用啦,之後再說
Tin
11:33:01
我移除了「下一個」按鈕,直接讓他點選答案往下
zyan951231
12:53:52
新增工廠地點的 usability 測試 #104 已 update ~
https://github.com/Disfactory/frontend/issues/104#issuecomment-848450762
https://github.com/Disfactory/frontend/issues/104#issuecomment-848450762
針對上一次 usability testing 觀察到的兩個問題: 1)無法當下識別紅色點 = 我 update: ☑︎ 電腦 & 手機版的 safari 有類似 google map 的 my location 定位,所以沒問題!! ☐ Chrome 開啟定位模式可解決,沒有開啟定位可否有設定直接帶 user 到手機/網頁的 preference 設定開啟定位? 2)對「可標示(黑色) 」或「不可標示(透明)」地區感到混淆 solution: ☐ 加入地號圖層(<https://easymap.land.moi.gov.tw/P02/Index#coordId|參考地籍圖資網>) ☐ 若確認加入地號圖層,是否要更新「使用教學」內容 *待確認問題*: • 是否只提供一種方式讓 user 確認地號?例如:使用*經緯度座標*來確認地號(因為考慮現在的網頁已經有定位經緯度的功能) • UI 呈現方式?簡單顯示地號而已,還是要像地籍圖資網一樣有詳細的資料 side bar?(行政區/地政事務所/地段/地號/面積/公告土地現值/公告土地低價) <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/84089270/119600634-022f1800-be1a-11eb-8853-02a54431824a.png|image> <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/84089270/119603864-9dc38700-be20-11eb-9068-6ee859b82c30.png|image> • (技術問題)地籍圖資網的警示:「坐標查詢結果之地號僅供參考,因GPS訊號及地籍圖坐標轉換誤差,都可能影響結果地號準確性。」 *加入地號圖層的考量因素*: 1. 針對現有的電話訪談紀錄,1/2的 user 會先小心確認地號後才完成任務。 2. 針對現有的電話訪談紀錄,在完成任務的過程中,user 會使用其他輔助工具來協助完成目標。如*地籍圖* / *地籍系統* / Google 街景 / 衛星 etc。那是否可以針對這個流程做優化,像是協助 user 從不同工具 & 地點轉換才完成任務 》變成只需要在同一個網頁 / app 內即可完成任務?![]()
zyan951231
13:08:43
對了,現在回報網頁 top nav 「常見問題」的錨點是不是怪怪的~
現在點擊之後開啟的頁面跟 「關於舉報系統」是一樣的
這個問題是要@ @yukai 嗎哈哈
現在點擊之後開啟的頁面跟 「關於舉報系統」是一樣的
這個問題是要@ @yukai 嗎哈哈
yukai
2021-05-26 18:53:10
OK 👌
ael
17:40:03
跟一個朋友聊到衛星圖比對的部分,他建議我們要去問做 GIS 的人,除了標記是否是新增工廠這個 label 以外,有沒有其他需要標註和收集的數據以利後續分析。也提到之前 @hsu.yenchia 說的,在一個 run 裡面要塞我們已知答案的比對,用來判斷該標註者的資料品質,不過他還多提到可以用來weighting ,決定哪些點需要第三人看過
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@oriyaroriyar 一開始是不是有專長是 GIS 的朋友想幫忙?
YAlgorithm
2021-05-26 17:47:09
嗨我今天會參加小聚喔,可以一起討論這部分
ael
17:40:34
他說標完後續的影像辨識相對簡單
ael
17:41:12
@oriyaroriyar 一開始是不是有專長是 GIS 的朋友想幫忙?
YAlgorithm
17:47:09
嗨我今天會參加小聚喔,可以一起討論這部分
yukai
18:53:10
OK 👌
deeper
19:18:33
今天一樣在gatherg;4
deeper
19:18:47
今天一樣在gather上! https://gather.town/app/4KcewWQLKPx6YPlV/Disfactory
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我可能要繼續用吼的了 XD
deeper
2021-05-26 19:25:47
你要不要嘗試用手機進來XD
ael
19:24:14
我可能要繼續用吼的了 XD
deeper
19:25:47
你要不要嘗試用手機進來XD
tobyliu
19:47:01
我今天可能休息一次 🙇
ael
21:18:30
Replied to a thread: 2021-05-24 11:00:53
目前衛星圖對照大家來找碴的部分,前端要拜託 @szyeefun 了,後端想問 @swind @f46284628 @jsaon92 @tobyliu 誰有興趣參與討論負責規劃 API
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swind
21:40:47
好喔,讓我生一下
SL
21:44:25
Just updated the design for our clusters in issue #73. Was wondering if @caleb would have time to updated it onto our frontend? I hope the design is straight forward enough, let me know if it’s not!
<https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/cluster.html|https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/cluster.html> <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/4230968/70860603-b3abf780-1f5e-11ea-97b1-5cb0f1045fdb.png|Screen Shot 2019-12-15 at 5 16 19 PM>![]()
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caleb
2021-05-26 21:58:32
Yes!
caleb
2021-05-26 21:58:42
Sorry I missed the meeting I was stargazing lol
(If I knew about it I think I would skip the meeting too)
caleb
2021-05-31 11:27:19
ok i will work on this!
caleb
2021-05-31 14:29:51
Hm, I'm not sure about this, all factories are stored together in the same array regardless of type, and at least from the style function I can't seem to differentiate factory types. In any case, when clustered, they're stuck on top of eachother, so if there's two different kinds of factories getting clustered, I'm not sure how to display both. I think I'd need to separate the factories into different collections by type, which means finding some way of not using `factoriesLayerSource`, what do you think @yukai ?
caleb
2021-05-31 14:35:44
i at least updated the styles to make the cluster circles bigger, use the new color, and increased the font
yukai
2021-05-31 20:38:17
hey @caleb let’s continue our discussion on GitHub (https://github.com/Disfactory/frontend/issues/73#issuecomment-851461557). I leave a possible solution.
LittleWhiteYA
21:45:33
會另外拉一個會議討論嗎?
LittleWhiteYA
21:46:05
我好像可以~
swind
21:47:07
喔喔我發現 @deeper 就就可以生 csv 出來給你了
Tin
21:52:49
小白我們剛剛想看你測試頁面
ael
21:53:02
配上聲音!
deeper
21:53:06
你們現在可以上來
deeper
21:53:09
他上線ㄌㄜˊ
deeper
21:53:13
sharescreen正在玩
caleb
21:58:32
Yes!
caleb
21:58:42
Sorry I missed the meeting I was stargazing lol
SL
22:02:10
(If I knew about it I think I would skip the meeting too)
2021-05-27
chewei 哲瑋
11:52:22
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deeper
2021-06-02 19:26:22
感謝 @chewei ! 想順便問你對「用空拍圖比對,辨識所有已知疑似工廠點位中,2016520之後的新增點」有沒有什麼建議~
還有圖資來源的部分!
還有圖資來源的部分!
deeper
2021-06-02 19:26:37
感謝 @chewei ! 想順便問你對「用空拍圖比對,辨識所有已知疑似工廠點位中,2016520之後的新增點」有沒有什麼建議~
還有圖資來源的部分!
還有圖資來源的部分!
chewei 哲瑋
2021-06-02 19:32:54
圖資部分,想知道目前有沒有文件,列出大家正在評估的圖資,或要文件要開在哪裡比較適合
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有聯想到:Zooniverse 服務網站,提供很多公民科學計畫的群眾鍵盤參與的支援系統,我自己是沒使用過,還不確定是否適合你們的「兩圖比對點選答案」這樣的工作環節、資料匯入匯出是否方便等評估點
https://www.zooniverse.org/
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有聯想到:Zooniverse 服務網站,提供很多公民科學計畫的群眾鍵盤參與的支援系統,我自己是沒使用過,還不確定是否適合你們的「兩圖比對點選答案」這樣的工作環節、資料匯入匯出是否方便等評估點
https://www.zooniverse.org/
Yeefun Lin
20:59:39
@aelcenganda 最近有想轉寫後端(過去有用過 Python 寫爬蟲,也寫過 MySQL),因此也想參與這次 API 的設計,昨天有把後端專案在本地跑起來,研究了一下架構,但還有些事情不太明白,下週三會再向後端請教
ael
21:18:03
Wow~~~~~~~~
2021-05-31
caleb
11:27:19
ok i will work on this!
caleb
11:34:39
@yukai did you merge clusters or is your excellent implementation still on a branch?
caleb
2021-05-31 11:35:53
i don't see anything mentioning clusters in the git log so i'm guessing on a branch somehwere
caleb
2021-05-31 11:37:18
i've also searched branches and didn't see anything obvious for cluster 😞
caleb
2021-05-31 11:38:55
nvm i think this was you
```'origin/cluter-pin-alt'```
```'origin/cluter-pin-alt'```
caleb
2021-05-31 11:39:00
and i think i merged... most of it into my branch
caleb
2021-05-31 11:40:31
```commit f12391950df719ba49dbe6e69614bc725fc153e1 (origin/cluter-pin-alt, cluter-pin-alt)
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:05:02 2021 +0800
Fix factory pin click event
commit b10b01797e7b3202646f870071ae037d9591e588
Author: Caleb Rogers <caleb@calebjay.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:04:28 2021 +0800
Revert "If unclustered, style differently"
This reverts commit 8d36976e9fa5f2c6a0625e48f6894710540b8a6e.
commit 5abecf8e21938f3bdcf6f2bb3a999134d38ddb3c
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 21:51:35 2021 +0800
Render as factory style if only one features in cluster```
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:05:02 2021 +0800
Fix factory pin click event
commit b10b01797e7b3202646f870071ae037d9591e588
Author: Caleb Rogers <caleb@calebjay.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:04:28 2021 +0800
Revert "If unclustered, style differently"
This reverts commit 8d36976e9fa5f2c6a0625e48f6894710540b8a6e.
commit 5abecf8e21938f3bdcf6f2bb3a999134d38ddb3c
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 21:51:35 2021 +0800
Render as factory style if only one features in cluster```
caleb
2021-05-31 11:40:36
am i missing any commits that you've done for clusters?
yukai
2021-05-31 11:41:09
Let me check my local branch
caleb
2021-05-31 11:42:29
cheers
caleb
2021-05-31 11:42:36
sorry if i'm bothering you at work btw lol
yukai
2021-05-31 11:42:59
OK, these are the latest commits on `origin`!
yukai
2021-05-31 11:44:00
@caleb If I can’t reply then I won’t reply haha
caleb
2021-05-31 11:44:50
fair enough lmao
caleb
11:35:53
i don't see anything mentioning clusters in the git log so i'm guessing on a branch somehwere
caleb
11:37:18
i've also searched branches and didn't see anything obvious for cluster 😞
caleb
11:38:04
wait, fuck
caleb
11:38:14
i forgot, we use the separate disfactory-frontend repo?
caleb
2021-05-31 11:39:32
i see
caleb
2021-05-31 11:39:39
it's my local folder naming that's off, ok no worries
caleb
2021-05-31 11:39:39
thanks!
caleb
11:38:55
nvm i think this was you
```'origin/cluter-pin-alt'```
```'origin/cluter-pin-alt'```
caleb
11:39:00
and i think i merged... most of it into my branch
caleb
11:39:32
i see
caleb
11:39:39
it's my local folder naming that's off, ok no worries
caleb
11:39:39
thanks!
caleb
11:40:31
```commit f12391950df719ba49dbe6e69614bc725fc153e1 (origin/cluter-pin-alt, cluter-pin-alt)
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:05:02 2021 +0800
Fix factory pin click event
commit b10b01797e7b3202646f870071ae037d9591e588
Author: Caleb Rogers <caleb@calebjay.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:04:28 2021 +0800
Revert "If unclustered, style differently"
This reverts commit 8d36976e9fa5f2c6a0625e48f6894710540b8a6e.
commit 5abecf8e21938f3bdcf6f2bb3a999134d38ddb3c
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 21:51:35 2021 +0800
Render as factory style if only one features in cluster```
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:05:02 2021 +0800
Fix factory pin click event
commit b10b01797e7b3202646f870071ae037d9591e588
Author: Caleb Rogers <caleb@calebjay.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 22:04:28 2021 +0800
Revert "If unclustered, style differently"
This reverts commit 8d36976e9fa5f2c6a0625e48f6894710540b8a6e.
commit 5abecf8e21938f3bdcf6f2bb3a999134d38ddb3c
Author: Yukai Huang <yukaihuangtw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 24 21:51:35 2021 +0800
Render as factory style if only one features in cluster```
caleb
11:40:36
am i missing any commits that you've done for clusters?
yukai
11:41:09
Let me check my local branch
caleb
11:42:29
cheers
caleb
11:42:36
sorry if i'm bothering you at work btw lol
yukai
11:42:59
OK, these are the latest commits on `origin`!
yukai
11:44:00
@caleb If I can’t reply then I won’t reply haha
caleb
11:44:50
fair enough lmao
caleb
14:29:51
Hm, I'm not sure about this, all factories are stored together in the same array regardless of type, and at least from the style function I can't seem to differentiate factory types. In any case, when clustered, they're stuck on top of eachother, so if there's two different kinds of factories getting clustered, I'm not sure how to display both. I think I'd need to separate the factories into different collections by type, which means finding some way of not using `factoriesLayerSource`, what do you think @yukai ?
caleb
14:35:44
i at least updated the styles to make the cluster circles bigger, use the new color, and increased the font
caleb
16:49:59
https://g0v.hackmd.io/bIdV3I9fQc23wYGdVNazzw to figure out an internationalization route. Or i can just implement something. But I figured it'd be best to discuss as a team
yukai
2021-06-01 00:12:44
Vote for #2. Having used i18next before
caleb
2021-06-01 15:12:50
dancy dance
caleb
2021-06-01 15:12:51
ok
caleb
2021-06-01 15:12:55
i do as well lol
caleb
16:50:14
secret project #1 is careers.google.com
caleb
16:50:21
secret project #2 is curative.com
Slackbot
16:50:38
先承認你就是沒有人
caleb
16:51:42
also, how can i tag files in hackMD?
yukai
2021-06-01 00:08:50
You mean upload files to HackMD?
yukai
2021-06-01 00:09:21
Or I see, adding tags
caleb
2021-06-01 15:12:43
yea
yukai
20:38:17
hey @caleb let’s continue our discussion on GitHub (https://github.com/Disfactory/frontend/issues/73#issuecomment-851461557). I leave a possible solution.