#news

2017-01-04
ttcat 13:08:57
Hi all 提醒大家今晚要討論 g0v.News at OCF!!
ttcat 13:09:07
About the website!
chihao 14:14:54
`g0v.news`, `g0v news`, `g0v News`, `The g0v News` 是不是要注意一下naming convention？😛
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clkao 14:17:40
要來個 mediakit guidelines 😛
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chihao 14:19:29
@ttcat 今天來看看Medium可怕的thumbnail
yutin 15:49:10
ok, I will go tonight.
ttcat 15:55:25
😂
ttcat 18:04:15
大家可以帶晚餐來唷
Jason致昕 18:44:28
我省錢坐火車上去
會慢到一些
大家先開始
ttcat 18:45:04
👍 預計時間？
Jason致昕 18:54:16
它一直誤點
但應該七點半可以到
你們先開始吧
ael 18:56:37
我 7:15到
ttcat 18:58:07
@yutin: 你呢
chihao 19:32:00
ref: https://theintercept.com/
theintercept.com
The Intercept
Fearless, adversarial journalism.
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chihao 20:50:14
Please leave your references/ideas of interface/interaction design for our new website here: https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-news-interface-interaction-design-references-ideas-Qup73HdQ3kU
2017-01-05
canadian_aaron 12:54:52
Here are the three major suggestions I've made on the reference site:
canadian_aaron 12:55:11
bellingcat.com
canadian_aaron 12:55:19
jacobinmag.com
canadian_aaron 12:55:31
theintercept.com
ipa 16:14:27
https://www.bnext.com.tw/article/42634/medium-lay-off
數位時代
Medium宣布轉型、將裁員1/3，創辦人威廉斯：因為發展方向已偏離初衷｜數位時代
Medium CEO 伊凡・威廉斯（Ev Williams）宣佈裁員50人，並關閉Medium位於紐約和華盛頓的辦公室，究竟Medium到底出了什麼問題呢？
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Jason致昕 16:49:23
好酷的億萬富翁
chihao 17:09:56
`We believe people who write and share ideas should be rewarded on their ability to enlighten and inform, not simply their ability to attract a few seconds of attention.`
https://blog.medium.com/renewing-mediums-focus-98f374a960be#.sv8hc6t29
3 min read
Renewing Medium’s focus
We’ve decided to make some major changes at Medium.
2017-01-06
ttcat 02:00:39
https://medium.com/@BetaNYC/2017-and-its-civic-tech-open-data-challenges-d98812a9f08a?source=linkShare-7204b9b4f72b-1483639205
Medium
2017 and its civic tech / open data challenges.
(This is a summary of the challenges we see in New York City. To see 2016’s year in review, visit our blog at Beta.NYC.)
yutin 16:11:41
多語翻譯的類似平台 cc. 雨蒼
https://coyee.com/article/compare/10591-swift-modules-with-react-native
coyee.com
支持 React Native 的 Swift 模块 - 可译网
React Native保留了平台中原生的属性，所以React Native可以作为成熟的跨平台开发架构，当然也包括iOS。但是React与Swift的结合开发仍未是主流，而且在Github中，也鲜有这方面的开源库。 React Native是一个Objective-C的应用框架，使用Javascript，并在iOS的JScore中执行程序。React Native的底层是通过使用原生的组件...
2017-01-08
yutin 17:43:05
針對 g0v.news 網站工程的部分 我投了 grant, 有一些細節會再補充. @chihao 雨蒼 要跳坑嗎? (雨蒼的id 是多少@@?)
https://grants.g0v.tw/projects/587206728798fb001e7324c2
HackDash
DipSpace 文字工作者的聚落 - g0v 公民科技創新獎助金
Dippen(沾水筆) + Space(空間) = DepSpace(暫定)從「單向傳輸」進入「雙向互動」的時代, 我們希望讓每一個閱讀者的貢獻都有價值.
hsiao-a 22:19:03
@billy3321 樓上呼叫
billy3321 22:19:13
@billy3321 has joined the channel
billy3321 22:31:20
哈囉
billy3321 22:31:23
我跳喔，可以呀
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2017-01-09
clkao 14:14:05
@yutin 到底是 DepSpace 還是 DipSpace? 還是 Deep Space 9?
yutin 14:15:32
我們需要跟 google 註冊新名詞 DipSpace ☺️
clkao 14:16:25
內文寫 DepSpace 哦
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yutin 14:21:05
感謝!!! 已更正. DipSpace 空間裡有一罐墨水，任何人拿起文具，佔墨水都可以提筆寫字。
chihao 15:23:05
@yutin 🕳️🕳️🕳️ → 👼
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2017-01-12
yutin 04:58:36
已將沃草的需求與合作資訊 補充上去
https://grants.g0v.tw/projects/587206728798fb001e7324c2
HackDash
DipSpace 文字工作者的聚落 - g0v 公民科技創新獎助金
Dippen(沾水筆) + Space(空間) = DipSpace(暫定)。空間裡有一罐墨水，任何人拿起文具，沾墨水都可以提筆寫字，這是一個以協作為核心理念出發的CMS專案。從「單向傳輸」進入「雙向互動」的時代，我們希望讓每一個閱讀者的貢獻都有價值。過去會在每一篇文章最下方有零散的 commit 這樣消極的對話並不符合我們需求。
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canadian_aaron 16:37:17
https://www.bellingcat.com/category/resources/how-tos/
canadian_aaron 16:38:01
this is such a cool feature of bellingcat: they have a “how to guide” for doing open source data journalism
canadian_aaron 16:39:08
i wonder how possible it would be for g0v.news to have a future section like this. Perhaps g0v.tw members could share best practices, and we could translate their own “how to guides” into English.
mglee 17:22:32
Sorry I have to skip our meetup tmr.
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2017-01-13
Sean Wei 12:18:37
@sean has joined the channel
ttcat 12:59:19
hi all
ttcat 12:59:49
提醒大家今晚我們在 OCF 繼續討論網站的部分喔 @yutin @chihao @billy3321
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ttcat 13:00:02
@aelcenganda
ttcat 13:00:17
歡迎其他沒有人自由加入喔
yutin 13:00:29
ok. biily3321 今天無法到
ttcat 13:00:53
ok ok
ttcat 13:01:03
你們有先 sync 過嗎
yutin 13:01:29
有
ttcat 13:03:46
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Jason致昕 13:09:06
一個想法想知道大家意見
想在中文文章的開頭，傳統前言的位置，列三點該看的理由。主要是解決對社群內外讀者溝通要點不同的問題，希望在三點中點出行內行外讀者能在此文得到的價值。

也或者可以更直接，對公民、公僕、coders三項各列出價值
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yutin 13:10:27
@jsl 收到!!! 系統規劃上不是問題. 這部分可以再問問記者/編輯, 及大家的想法. 我記得有些媒體有這功能.
Jason致昕 13:20:05
這不用動牛刀啦我寫文就直接寫入即可

只是這樣的安排不知道大家覺得有沒有助益
ttcat 13:40:33
應該不錯
canadian_aaron 16:46:01
我今天應該沒有辦法來今晚的網站會議 😞
ttcat 16:49:38
don’t worry
chihao 17:20:15
@jsl 喜歡分角色的想法 🙌
yutin 18:28:01
@chihao 在路上!?
chihao 18:28:26
@yutin YES
ael 18:56:19
快到了
ttcat 19:04:19
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chihao 19:04:55
上次的紀錄 https://g0v.hackpad.com/20170104-g0v-news-website-3qSc0yliAfZ
stella 19:13:47
@stella has joined the channel
chihao 19:32:35
今天的紀錄 https://g0v.hackpad.com/20170113-dipspace-NvcwoAgyMKS
ttcat 19:44:35
https://github.com/xing/wysihtml5
GitHub
xing/wysihtml5
wysihtml5 - Open source rich text editor based on HTML5 and the progressive-enhancement approach. Uses a sophisticated security concept and aims to generate fully valid HTML5 markup by preventing u...
chihao 19:51:30
hackfoldr改版許願池 https://g0v.hackpad.com/hackfoldr--bNkNzMRWse6
2017-01-16
chihao 23:14:27
整理了一下hackfoldr http://beta.hackfoldr.org/g0v.news
2017-01-17
ttcat 02:02:58
++
yutin 14:14:45
在 Telegram 上有一個關於工程團隊的討論群
yutin 14:15:02
https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/DipSpace-QkCgWwG1oIwyxlEOnzCP7 這是目前的技術共筆, 我把它整理到 foldr
Dropbox Paper
DipSpace 技術共筆
設計： 知澔 設計Reference累積 坑主兼前端： 宇庭、蕭a 後端： Charlie、家偉、雨蒼、蕭a 前端：react 後端：nodejs rails 維運： 每三週一次 小黑客松 API規格： article (sample)： <https://gist.github>.
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@null 14:21:49
@ used `/poll`! This question is open-ended.
CMS for News 專案命名提案!!! 1/23 - 提案結束. 2/27 - 投票結束.
Open-ended question
2017-01-20
yutin 01:50:58
g0v grant - CMS for news
https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-grant-CMS-for-news-e9682mDHDBW

cc. @chihao
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2017-01-21
yutin 09:25:48
CMS 的部分歡迎大家提議 （也可以打在hackpad）
週二早上10點 我會跟 @chihao 一起去報導者 找網紅記者 Mimi 與兩位編輯 訪談，有興趣的歡迎同行（發訊息說一聲也會去即可）
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Jason致昕 09:39:02
明天就回台南了，哭
chihao 2017-01-21 10:16:54
jsl: :cry:
chihao 10:16:54
jsl: :cry:
chihao 10:17:28
我提了一個很硬的名字哇哈哈
yutin 10:53:39
tammylan93 17:14:40
請問目前facebook page的編輯是只有jason嗎？
有個文章的typo被quote到了, sao tome那篇
tammylan93 17:14:46
“Taiwan and São Tomé and Príncipe may have gone THEIR separate ways, but Taiwan didn’t leave without putting down some place markers on the map.”
tammylan93 17:14:58
@jsl
canadian_aaron 18:00:30
@tammylan93 這個我會處理一下
canadian_aaron 20:04:21
https://medium.com/@aaronwytze/trump-removes-open-government-from-white-house-website-5f7c4feb7c18
Medium
Trump removes “Open Government” from White House website
The US open government initiative could be in jeopardy, as newly inaugurated President Trump removed all mention of “open government” and…
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canadian_aaron 20:08:12
誰有時間可以校對一下？
canadian_aaron 20:08:30
這是即時新聞囉！！！
canadian_aaron 20:08:59
到現在沒有其他新聞台有報導過
canadian_aaron 20:09:16
我放在g0v.news newsroom 好了
mglee 20:10:26
i’m on it now
au 20:10:59
`do bring up any relevant search results`
ael 20:11:09
+1
au 20:11:11
`do` => `does not`
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canadian_aaron 20:14:25
感謝你們！！！🙏
ael 20:14:29
You may want to mention this website:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/
whitehouse.gov
The White House
See the President's daily schedule, explore behind-the-scenes photos from inside the White House, and find out all the ways you can engage with the most interactive administration in our country's history.
mglee 20:14:56
我後面有看到這個archive
ael 20:15:10
They archived the websites in case that Trump removes them
ael 20:15:37
Oh, 奇怪，我看不到結尾
mglee 20:15:40
@canadian_aaron 除了au提到的那個typo, all look good to me
au 20:15:45
不過類似的新聞，不管是 `lgbt` 還是 `climate change` 已經看到很多篇了
canadian_aaron 20:15:57
對，我也有看到了
mglee 20:16:24
@aelcenganda 因為權限？
ael 20:17:13
不要理我，我在網路奇怪的中國
mglee 20:17:48
喔XDD
au 20:18:09
lgtm (looks good to me)
ael 20:19:09
台灣其實有一樣的問題，之前g0v大松有討論過。看有沒有人要再追下去了
https://g0v.hackpad.com/ep/pad/static/qMqNgMJFxDu
canadian_aaron 20:19:28
Ok, i’m going to publish it as is.
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canadian_aaron 20:19:35
short and sweet.
mglee 20:24:03
謝謝 @au 即時出手
不過我忽然發現，au 沒有權限但看得到 draft? 是指 medium 上的 draft 其實只要有連結都可以看得到嗎？
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canadian_aaron 20:24:16
https://g0v.news/trump-removes-open-government-from-white-house-website-5f7c4feb7c18#.yx9ga0gr6
g0v.news
Trump removes “Open Government” from White House website
The US open government initiative could be in jeopardy, as newly inaugurated President Trump removed all mention of “open government” and…
2017-01-22
canadian_aaron 14:31:20
I think i’m going to do a piece today, about the “we the people petitions site” getting 100,000 votes.
canadian_aaron 14:31:41
would like to put it up tonight
canadian_aaron 18:15:32
We need to have an OpEd column
canadian_aaron 18:16:08
My article about the “WeThePeople” petitions is now an OpEd. Haha
2017-01-23
hsiao-a 08:45:55
剛剛參加了 tech solidarity meetup in NYC 這是一個組織聚集當地工程師要對抗Trump 感覺很像當年318後的 g0v
chihao 08:48:51
@hsiao-a do tell more! ✊
hsiao-a 08:48:58
不同的事 他們組織蠻秘密的 不知道在神秘什麼 xD
chihao 08:49:35
是新的組織嗎？那是不是就沒有共筆或直播了？XD
hsiao-a 08:50:06
Their central idea is to unite tech workers to oppose any colluding of the tech companies with the Trump administration
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hsiao-a 08:50:49
因為這樣 所以神秘吧 怕被公司知道
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hsiao-a 08:59:26
他們第一個project是要幫助Muslim 不要被失蹤 （常常有回教徒男性被聯邦政府叫去問話就不見了）
我會跳這個專案看看有什麼好幫手的 有趣聞再跟大家回報
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chihao 09:02:42
如果有什麼活動訊息、網站或repo，我也想知道，轉給美國的朋友和組織者
hsiao-a 09:24:32
這邊有個password protected page XD
https://nyc.techsolidarity.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
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hsiao-a 09:24:47
User: user
pwd: parrot icicle cakepan
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hsiao-a 09:26:04
弄得很像天地會 XD
hsiao-a 09:44:20
剛到家來整理一下今天meeting內容
今天約有100人在Unitarian Church of Brooklyn
一開始問了一下約有一半今天是第一次參加 (這是第二次集會)
招集人講了一下 Tech Solidarity 的宗旨 - 透過 Tech people united 來發聲
阻止科技公司屈膝於 Trump 政府壓力，做出傷害美國人權的事 (Muslim registry, for example)
討論要點
1. 如何幫助 CAIR-NY (Civil rights group for muslims) https://pad.riseup.net/p/vJxNoIQRgWFO
2. Trump 要砍 net neutrality，如何因應
http://www.ala.org/advocacy/telecom/netneutrality
3. Tech workers should unionize
4. 如何幫助 Brooklyn Community Bail Fund (local issue)
hsiao-a 09:46:45
其實他們的規範是 未經同意不能貼出有臉的圖片
(但上面兩張露臉的都是主辦人應該沒差)
chihao 10:03:15
這個聚會場所我的媽呀，太猛了。
ttcat 10:55:37
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poga 12:49:02
so cool~
canadian_aaron 12:50:11
very cool
ttcat 18:47:19
@yutin @billy3321 你們看過這個嗎？https://github.com/twreporter/plate
GitHub
twreporter/plate
plate - A KeystoneJS Project with various configurations for development and testing purposes
yutin 18:59:00
@hsiao-a 好像在拍電影
yutin 19:00:18
@ttcat 感謝. 報導者的工程團隊有主動告知我們這個專案, 以及如何使用. 我還沒開始研究.
ttcat 19:03:51
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2017-01-24
canadian_aaron 17:30:47
anyone interested in doing a quick review of my new piece for g0v.news?
canadian_aaron 17:30:50
https://g0v.news/the-missing-continent-at-the-open-government-summit-d9304367e396
Medium
The Missing Continent at the Open Government Summit
The open government movement has gone global, but large-scale open government-related events still predominately feature attendees and…
@null 17:56:29
*This poll is closed. Voting is disabled.*
@ used `/poll`! Each person can vote for multiple items and their votes will be anonymous 🔒.
CMS for news
ttcat 23:58:46
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2017-01-25
hsiao-a 01:10:17
++++
2017-01-26
chihao 10:26:14
+++++?
Jason致昕 11:26:29
假新聞的上篇，在米尼的幫忙跟Johnson的校對之後，已經趕在過年前上崗了，下篇希望在年後上。謝謝大家幫忙，特別是chihao跟小班 :)

https://g0v.news/坑主專訪-line-上面訊息有些是假的-好困擾啊-寫程式對抗假新聞-他們背後的長征計畫-df9ca1460995#.41lmq8z1x
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ipa 13:51:08
假新聞這篇要分享到g0v粉絲頁嗎？
Jason致昕 16:46:39
都可以喔
未來應該會持續坑主專訪這個欄目
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2017-01-29
kooioao 02:55:49
@ooookai has joined the channel