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2018-02-02
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2018-02-13
hey all! Look for some advice on a lightweight online ORID (Focussed Conversation) process that I'm working through -- basically the fact/feeling/idea/decision process that #vtaiwan plays out in digital and physical spaces.
Trying to decide on the best emoji to represent the "decisional" phase. I went through the GitHub emoji and pulled out these ones as candidates:
https://hackmd.io/s/SJLZMTJvM#
Any advice? Bonus points for:
- word label also fitting
- different colors than other emoji
- cross-cultural significance
Feel free to suggest any others that I missed! Thanks! (A list in order of your fave is great too! yay ranked ballot)
Related context: https://hackmd.io/c/rynF_9jZz/https%3A%2F%2Fhackmd.io%2Fs%2FH1gueUI_Mf
cc: @au @darshana @itsmisscs @lizbarry
Trying to decide on the best emoji to represent the "decisional" phase. I went through the GitHub emoji and pulled out these ones as candidates:
https://hackmd.io/s/SJLZMTJvM#
Any advice? Bonus points for:
- word label also fitting
- different colors than other emoji
- cross-cultural significance
Feel free to suggest any others that I missed! Thanks! (A list in order of your fave is great too! yay ranked ballot)
Related context: https://hackmd.io/c/rynF_9jZz/https%3A%2F%2Fhackmd.io%2Fs%2FH1gueUI_Mf
cc: @au @darshana @itsmisscs @lizbarry
HackMD
| **Legend** | |---| | :mag: Fact | | :heart: Feeling | | :bulb: Idea | | :question: Decision |
# Pattern Library: Working Open - [Introduction](<https://hackmd.io/s/SJd6WLuzz>) ## Google Drive -
i think my personal faves are (in order): :seedling: :balloon: :anchor:🔑🌻
I use ✍️ in my slides
🔢 💞 💭 ✍️
but to complete your series (which is simpler and may work better in low-res env), I think 🔍 ❤️ 💡 ✅ works too
nice! thx. i think i have a unexamined bias for symbols that can be said out-loud without looking at the underlying mardown... but not sure if that's reasonable 🙂
(re-evaluating though!)
(re-evaluating though!)
inclusive (multimodal audiovisual) iconography is certainly a reasonable criteria — I’ll try out the new set in some future slides and see how the audience reacts
🔍 💞 💡 ✅
🔍 💞 💭 ✅
trying out some combos between both your versions. there’s something really nice about revolving hearts and the idea of many/multiple.
simplicity cannot be underestimated though 🙂 the more i look at 🔍 ❤️ 💡 ✅ the more i 💗
ℹ️ 💗 💡 ➡️
I’m not too particular, but I like how the two in the center here are colorful, indicating perhaps that here is where creativity and stuff can happen, whereas the other processes are more logical, facts and decisions.
that is quite nice @katehnicholson. another consideration
Love this convo! Realized the set might differ depending on whether we want each icon to be referring to the individual statement unit, or the whole phase itself. Perhaps different approaches depending on that lens?
Fwiw, i suspect the connection between magnifying glass / detective / Sherlock / facts is very western centric (and maybe that's OK)
The more we keep it simple the better. I was assuming these represent each phase.
Down with that! Fwiw, the icons go beside each statement (like bullet points) in the system I was working on, so I'm still uncertain what simple is :)
i think my personal faves are (in order): :seedling: :balloon: :anchor:🔑🌻
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I use ✍️ in my slides
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🔢 💞 💭 ✍️
but to complete your series (which is simpler and may work better in low-res env), I think 🔍 ❤️ 💡 ✅ works too
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nice! thx. i think i have a unexamined bias for symbols that can be said out-loud without looking at the underlying mardown... but not sure if that's reasonable 🙂
(re-evaluating though!)
(re-evaluating though!)
inclusive (multimodal audiovisual) iconography is certainly a reasonable criteria — I’ll try out the new set in some future slides and see how the audience reacts
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2018-02-14
@lizbarry are you going to be at ProgHackNight in person?
we were just chatting. are folks going tonight?
🔍 💞 💡 ✅
🔍 💞 💭 ✅
trying out some combos between both your versions. there’s something really nice about revolving hearts and the idea of many/multiple.
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simplicity cannot be underestimated though 🙂 the more i look at 🔍 ❤️ 💡 ✅ the more i 💗
ℹ️ 💗 💡 ➡️
I’m not too particular, but I like how the two in the center here are colorful, indicating perhaps that here is where creativity and stuff can happen, whereas the other processes are more logical, facts and decisions.
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that is quite nice @katehnicholson. another consideration
I will go if any one else plans to join.
if you can’t join in person, appear.in is an option!
yes! looks like CS and I will leave from New Lab and head over
wait. I thought CS got on a flight to the DR yesterday. No??
she's here!
Oh wow!!
alright. we gather at ProgHackNight
I’ll being the fancy mezcal I bought in the duty free 😉
sorry about the about-turn on proghacknight
I’m suddenly fading
need some stay at home time i think
i have two bottles of tequilla to share!
i flew to DR for the weekend. i’m back for the week
🙂
Do you guys link w more info/ location/details?
Progressive Hacknight
Progressive HackNight is a bi-weekly gathering of coders and creatives, makers and doers, to foment and inspire action. We use our collective talents and abilities to push forward pro-social change in benefit of the common good.
they have a short talk in the beginning and then people break off to work in groups
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wait. I thought CS got on a flight to the DR yesterday. No??
she's here!
Oh wow!!
alright. we gather at ProgHackNight
I’ll being the fancy mezcal I bought in the duty free 😉
Love this convo! Realized the set might differ depending on whether we want each icon to be referring to the individual statement unit, or the whole phase itself. Perhaps different approaches depending on that lens?
Fwiw, i suspect the connection between magnifying glass / detective / Sherlock / facts is very western centric (and maybe that's OK)
so it's "immigration hack night" and there are 4 speakers from 3 organizations......probably will be rather less worktime.....
I might stay in Liz 😞
and do appear.in
that’s a lot for me
hmmm that’s a lot of talking
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sorry about the about-turn on proghacknight
I’m suddenly fading
need some stay at home time i think
i’d rather collab on work than sit through chats, if that’s okay with folks.
Dittos.
agree
any rando notes to add to the trello board? no presh if it stayed loose and in the air 🙂
i have two bottles of tequilla to share!
i flew to DR for the weekend. i’m back for the week
🙂
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Dittos.
agree
Yeeeeeeooooow! Great news on our RightsCon proposal! 🎉
https://hackmd.io/s/HkkI3v-DM
cc: @lizbarry @darshana @itsmisscs @au
https://hackmd.io/s/HkkI3v-DM
cc: @lizbarry @darshana @itsmisscs @au
# Email: RightsCon Toronto 2018 - Status of Program Session Proposal and Ticket Info ``` To: Patric
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Folks, shall we have a discussion about this soon-ish, I hope they let us know whom we’ve been merged with soon…
YES. we kinda half talked about it in a casual hangout call today (see notes). but hard to go further without knowing the merge. I'll post email AS SOON as i get it.
for now, i think we agreed that the 100% solid thing we could work on asap is logistics around (1) @au getting you and your team here, and (2) discussing/researching possible itineraries for meeting communities and gov officials (of course, it's totally up to you @au how scheduled you'd like to be)
for now, i think we agreed that the 100% solid thing we could work on asap is logistics around (1) @au getting you and your team here, and (2) discussing/researching possible itineraries for meeting communities and gov officials (of course, it's totally up to you @au how scheduled you'd like to be)
sure, I’m happy to visit Toronto (either in the flesh or via telepresence). ShuYang is in charge of PDIS’s international schedule.
cc @itsmisscs
Eeeeee!!! I was just asking @lizbarry about rightscon over dinner. Standing by for more details.
2018-02-15
congrats!
yay yay yay!!! So exciting!!!!!
2018-02-16
The more we keep it simple the better. I was assuming these represent each phase.
Down with that! Fwiw, the icons go beside each statement (like bullet points) in the system I was working on, so I'm still uncertain what simple is :)
2018-02-17
Folks, shall we have a discussion about this soon-ish, I hope they let us know whom we’ve been merged with soon…
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Added [rough] meeting notes here! https://trello.com/c/UiT9zXBl/15-meeting-notes
YES. we kinda half talked about it in a casual hangout call today (see notes). but hard to go further without knowing the merge. I'll post email AS SOON as i get it.
for now, i think we agreed that the 100% solid thing we could work on asap is logistics around (1) @au getting you and your team here, and (2) discussing/researching possible itineraries for meeting communities and gov officials (of course, it's totally up to you @au how scheduled you'd like to be)
for now, i think we agreed that the 100% solid thing we could work on asap is logistics around (1) @au getting you and your team here, and (2) discussing/researching possible itineraries for meeting communities and gov officials (of course, it's totally up to you @au how scheduled you'd like to be)
it was a really nice surprise to see everyone's faces tonight! 🙂 @lizbarry @darshana @devin @katehnicholson
any rando notes to add to the trello board? no presh if it stayed loose and in the air 🙂
started #rightscon-2018 channel for trip planning and collaboration
sure, I’m happy to visit Toronto (either in the flesh or via telepresence). ShuYang is in charge of PDIS’s international schedule.
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2018-02-20
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/02/stupid-cities/553052/ -- some gems in here, especially:
>That’s why smart cities, in this new digital era of Big Five and China-BAT industry consolidation, drift away from open public websites and popular comments. Instead, they’re adopting that new surveillance-marketing paradigm of “data extractivity.” Why trouble to ask the “citizens” what they want from urban life, when you can accurately surveil the real actions of city’s “users” and decode what they’re actually doing, as opposed to what they vaguely claim they might want to do? Historically, this is a rather typical drift for a left-wing mass-democratic ideology—from the unwieldy awkwardness of rallying the entire people, and toward the semi-covert vanguard of the revolution.
>That’s why smart cities, in this new digital era of Big Five and China-BAT industry consolidation, drift away from open public websites and popular comments. Instead, they’re adopting that new surveillance-marketing paradigm of “data extractivity.” Why trouble to ask the “citizens” what they want from urban life, when you can accurately surveil the real actions of city’s “users” and decode what they’re actually doing, as opposed to what they vaguely claim they might want to do? Historically, this is a rather typical drift for a left-wing mass-democratic ideology—from the unwieldy awkwardness of rallying the entire people, and toward the semi-covert vanguard of the revolution.
Mhmmmm. Right-o. “smart” =not transparent and =not inclusive/participatory
the "rather typical shift" line really got me
can anyone refer me to a critique of vanguardism?
I think there are a few "vanguardism"s out there
the marxist/leninist stuff is a particular type. I tend to use the term to describe when a small group of elites who think they know the REAL truth lead the masses by whatever means they deem necessary.
The noble lie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie
Thanks!!!
Mhmmmm. Right-o. “smart” =not transparent and =not inclusive/participatory
the "rather typical shift" line really got me
can anyone refer me to a critique of vanguardism?
2018-02-21
draft program for rightscon just came out! so now we can start taking guesses at who they're pairing our session with 🙂
https://www.rightscon.org/cms/assets/uploads/2018/02/RC2018-draft-program-1.1.pdf
https://www.rightscon.org/cms/assets/uploads/2018/02/RC2018-draft-program-1.1.pdf
early-bird tickets end feb 28, if anyone has folk in mind who they want to attend (particularly important in toronto)
i wonder if we could do remote participation well enough that groups could participate from afar (or just from non-ticketed locations...)
I think there are a few "vanguardism"s out there
the marxist/leninist stuff is a particular type. I tend to use the term to describe when a small group of elites who think they know the REAL truth lead the masses by whatever means they deem necessary.
The noble lie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie
In politics, a noble lie is a myth or untruth, often, but not invariably, of a religious nature, knowingly propagated by an elite to maintain social harmony or to advance an agenda. The noble lie is a concept originated by Plato as described in the Republic. In religion, a pious fiction is a narrative that is presented as true by the author, but is considered by others to be fictional albeit produced with an altruistic motivation. The term is sometimes used pejoratively to suggest that the author of the narrative was deliberately misleading readers for selfish or deceitful reasons. The term is often used in religious contexts, sometimes referring to passages in religious texts.
2018-02-22
Thanks!!!
2018-02-23
heyo <!here>! Just got a message from RightsCon about what our session is being merged with -- @ttcat's g0v session!
Email here: https://hackmd.io/s/SkiJr62Dz
Email here: https://hackmd.io/s/SkiJr62Dz
maybe we could move about sorting this into #rightscon-2018? (sharing post there)