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@null 12:45:40

That is the legislator's modification?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546317939089700?thread_ts=1546249803.080800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _那就是立委修改的吧？_

@null 12:47:18

@jackymaxj yes sorry for the late reply. For me it was constant getting kicked off the doc. Have to reload the window to reconnect. For a friend in Japan, he could not connect to the doc at all for quite a while. Sorry I couldn’t be more specific :(

@null 12:47:24

Also happy new year :)

@null 15:25:22

Can you ask when to start collecting opinions or what kind of events to start collecting? Because Luo political commissar said that the original legislative purpose of the law is not to counter false news.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546327521095000?thread_ts=1546249405.077800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _那可以請教是從何時開始、或是因應什麼事件而開始蒐集意見？因為羅政委�..._

@null 15:44:56

As far as I know, it is [October 2nd] (https://www.cna.com.tw/news/aipl/201810020202.aspx) When the Dean of the Executive Yuan replied, he said that he has instructed the Administrative Committee of the Executive Yuan Luo Bing To achieve the existing legal system, it is necessary to establish a new law integration or to amend the existing law. This will be proposed.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546328695095200?thread_ts=1546249405.077800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _以我所知，是 [10 月 2 日](<https://www.cna.com.tw/news/aipl/201810020202.aspx>) 行政院賴��..._

@null 16:25:36

Thanks for reply

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546331135095900?thread_ts=1546249405.077800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _感謝回覆_

@null 22:11:37

Happy New Year!
We identified there was a CDN issue as which some clients might not able to connect. Also we fixed an issue that might cause unstable connection after reconnect. These should improve connectivity as such, would deploy to g0v hackmd soon.

@null 16:18:47

I just talked to the fire department and got a little understanding of their needs. ~See if there is a chance to give HackMD a few boxes of coffee.~ But I haven’t finalized any cooperation yet.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546417127097900?thread_ts=1546156537.062200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _剛剛跟消防署方面電洽過了，稍微了解了一下他們的需求 <del>看看有沒有機�..._

@null 16:23:56

It is said that the organizers of 0801 Kaohsiung, 0206 Tainan, and Sun Flower (?) should be more qualified than me. Who knows who?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546417435098500?thread_ts=1546156537.062200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _是說0801高雄、0206台南、太陽花(?)共同協作的組織人應該比我更有資格才對��..._

@null 16:31:20

(Open under the open material and push the pit (ry)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546417879099300|source>: _（底下開放爆料跟推坑(ry）_

@null 17:17:25

It is said that I always want to ask http://beta.hackfoldr.org which is worse than http://hackfoldr.org, welcome RTFM

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546420643100100|source>: _是說我一直很想問 <http://beta.hackfoldr.org> 跟 <http://hackfoldr.org> 差在哪邊，歡迎 RT..._

@null 17:31:10

In this era, beta is the king (?)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546421469100700|source>: _這個時代， beta 才是王道 (?)_

@null 18:07:17

Is the government document system technically capable of being based on Markdown? In addition to the outline symbolic style of the Republic of China aesthetics (ry

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546423637102800|source>: _是說政府公文系統技術上能夠轉成基於 Markdown 嗎？撇除掉中華民國美學的大..._

@null 18:08:28

The biggest problem is that government documents are subject to pdf files.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546423707103700|source>: _最大的問題是政府公文都要以 pdf 檔為準_

@null 18:09:18

@peggylo has transferred some of the conference documents from the Department of Health and Welfare to HackMD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546423757105000|source>: _<@U0BFQRWGZ> 已經把衛福部一些會議公開文件轉到 HackMD 上_

@null 18:12:27

Markdown2PDF should be technically ok (?)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546423947105500|source>: _Markdown2PDF 應該技術上沒問題（？）_

@null 18:13:28

It’s not awkward, it’s an official document to give you a pdf file, not to give you the original file, so it’s PDF2Markdown

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546424007106800|source>: _不是喔，是正式文件要給你 pdf 檔，不給你原始檔，所以是 PDF2Markdown_

@null 18:15:36

The difference layout of Beta hackfoldr is much worse. According to the village chief, the beta code is also rewritten.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546424134109500|source>: _Beta hackfoldr 的差別版面就差很多啊。據村長說 beta 程式碼也重寫_

@null 18:15:50

What I am talking about here is the part of the original document editor. As for sending out PDFs, it seems very reasonable (?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546424150109700|source>: _我這邊講的就是原始文件編輯方的部份，至於送出去用 PDF 好像很合理（？_

@null 18:17:15

撇Remove unnecessary (X) typesetting and formatting, and use the Word typesetting application to create a feeling of killing a knife.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546424234110900|source>: _撇除掉不必要的(X)排版與格式化，公文用 Word 這種排版應用來製作好像有點�..._

@null 18:18:13

The experience of doing HackMD in the government can really ask @peggylo

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546424292111900|source>: _在政府內做 HackMD 的經驗真的可以問 <@U0BFQRWGZ> _

@null 18:18:42

Thanks for guiding

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546424321112300|source>: _感謝指引_

@null 18:23:19

PDIS has been gradually transferred to [SandMD] (https://apps.sandstorm.io/app/9afdqyf3v446h1xd5d9xggkndrs627ha0wr0aw2nkcf1rthm4qn0). In theory, any civil servant (email ending with `@*.http://gov.tw`) can [ One-click installation] (https://ey.pdis.nat.gov.tw/install/fc037a205dc9017cf1941ffdcb6029ea?url=https://app-index.sandstorm.io/packages/fc037a205dc9017cf1941ffdcb6029ea), but the units that will be edited in practice, Still based on colleagues who have participated in the PO Collaboration/Social Innovation Tour

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546424597114300|source>: _PDIS 共筆已逐步轉移到 [SandMD](<https://apps.sandstorm.io/app/9afdqyf3v446h1xd5d9xggkndrs627h..._>

@null 19:29:13

The beta hackfoldr is the result of ETBlue's refactoring of the hackfoldr interface on 2014-07-25: https://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/g0v.tw/2014-07-25#154

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546428548115300|source>: _beta hackfoldr 是 ETBlue 在 2014-07-25 對 hackfoldr 介面重構的成果： <https://logbot.g0v.t>..._

@null 19:29:58

The next day her strong roommate stringed the ethercalc API.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546428596115900|source>: _隔天她的強者室友就把 ethercalc API 串好了_

@null 19:31:39

And in the second half of 2014, new features are added by different people.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546428699116700|source>: _並在 2014 年後半持續由不同人加上新功能_

@null 22:03:28

Live broadcast: How do non-technical people participate? <Https://www.facebook.com/station4open/videos/289360271721225/>

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546437807116900|source>: _Live broadcast: 非科技人如何參與？ <https://www.facebook.com/station4open/videos/2893602717..._>

Someone (across chat bridge) 22:08:19

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@null 23:05:06

Hong Kong’s citizen technology meetup is until twelve o’clock.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546441506118700|source>: _香港的公民科技 meetup 是到十二點啊_

@null 23:05:27

(There is no homage to the liver of the engineer who goes to work the next day)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546441527119500|source>: _（為隔天要上班工程師的肝致上無上敬意）_

@null 00:02:44

Hong Kong engineers said why they did not bring them from Taiwan to let them put in the machine room XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546444963120700|source>: _香港工程師表示為何沒有從台灣帶乖乖讓他們放機房 XD_

@null 00:06:49

@jackymaxj have you seen the markdown editor ui in bear? it seems pretty nice

@null 00:21:18

Yes, it’s awesome.
We’ve been working on a experimental prototype looks more friendly like that.

@null 00:30:16

I found that I fell in love immediately after the bear, but I can't cooperate.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546446615122700?thread_ts=1546445208.122300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我發現 bear 後立即愛上，但不能協作 :bear:_

@null 00:45:22

Bear is very powerful, it is the object of our study😺

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546447521122900?thread_ts=1546445208.122300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _bear 非常厲害，是我們學習的對象 :smiley_cat:_

@null 11:31:53

bear looks like hackpad with different CSS ._.

@null 11:32:48

Oh his markdown grammar and visual combination is a bit interesting

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546486367126300?thread_ts=1546445208.122300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _oh 他 markdown 語法跟 visual 的結合有點有趣_

@null 11:38:26

Half house half beauty

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546486705126700?thread_ts=1546445208.122300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _半宅半美_

patcon 14:31:51

@gj re: tictec. Thinking about going! Better chances if I get my act together and propose a session :)

@null 15:22:58

https://www.facebook.com/viewpointtaiwan/posts/2139620602771030

@null 2019-01-03 16:57:00

"Ask, do you know who is behind the "beauty jade" and "true fake Line bot"?" #是是是不知道不知道

Someone (across chat bridge) 15:25:58

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@null 15:42:50

https://www.cna.com.tw/news/firstnews/201901035005.aspx

cna.com.tw

漂至金門死豬驗出陽性今起檢疫訪視1萬多頭豬 | 生活 | 重點新聞 | 中央社 CNA

農委會今天表示，去年底漂至金門的死豬檢體非洲豬瘟檢驗結果出爐，為陽性，由於不能區分是金門或中國大陸所養，接著會對金門當地1萬1000頭豬做疫情訪視，以早一步掌控疫情。

@null 16:57:00

"Ask, do you know who is behind the "beauty jade" and "true fake Line bot"?" #是是是不知道不知道

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546505819129800?thread_ts=1546500177.127800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _「試問，各位知道『美玉姨』、『真的假的Line bot』背後都是誰嗎？」 #是��..._

@null 17:09:23

https://www.facebook.com/Do.you.a.flavor/photos/a.528157283956545/1770484809723780/?type=3&theater

gj 17:52:04

Great! hope we can meet there again! did you get back to 🇨🇦?

@null 21:12:25

If someone is concerned about the "Looking for Missing, Disaster, Help" message, will it cause "copying outdated information everywhere, but it will cause trouble", you can check out this example https://www.facebook.com/aspergerhouse/posts/2542364292457265

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546521142133400|source>: _如果有人關心「尋找失蹤，災難，求助」訊息，會不會造成「到處複製過時�..._

@null 23:27:49

Because in Hong Kong, we want to tell talk about how non-information people participate in civic technology. We are sorting out the information and guidelines for cross-border collaboration that g0v has compiled in the past. I want to say that it is a simple 5-10 minute briefing. Now the newsletter only has lost links. You are welcome to add information and things that you think are important. https://g0v.hackmd.io/-ojjv5dqSJm8CUR2OVBAsg

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546529268135300|source>: _因為在香港要給 talk 講非資訊人如何參與公民科技，正在整理 g0v 大家過去��..._

@null 2019-01-03 23:42:00

@ky @Peace

@null 2019-01-03 23:42:47

@kjcl Do you think you need to do a guide for new engineers who are involved in g0v?

@null 2019-01-03 23:44:38

Suddenly realized that @ipa and @bess are already writing?

@null 23:42:00

@ky @Peace

@null 23:42:47

@kjcl Do you think you need to do a guide for new engineers who are involved in g0v?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546530165137300?thread_ts=1546529268.135300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _@kjcl 你覺得也需要做一個給新參與 g0v 的工程師的指南嗎（文章之類的_

@null 23:44:38

Suddenly realized that @ipa and @bess are already writing?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546530277138500?thread_ts=1546529268.135300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _突然意識到 <@U02L0C4KF> 和 @bess 是不是已經在寫了？_

@null 09:35:50

This can refer to the relevant paragraph of the 12/20 verbatim draft: https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-20-%E5%81%A5%E4%BF%9D%E5%8D% A1%E7%A0%94%E5%95%86%E6%9C%83%E8%AD%B0#s252089

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546565748139500?thread_ts=1546264318.085800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _這個可以參考 12/20 逐字稿的相關段落： <https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-20-%E5%81..._>

@null 11:16:13

`The prize money is about to enter the countdown stage. 有 There are ideas to make the proposal to step up! If you have time, but don't know what to do, you can go to the wishing pool to find inspiration! If you don't know what the bonus is, you can get it right away! 30 - 500,000 bonuses, consultant resources, let you open the first step of the project! <Https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/g0vgrant2019>

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546571772142100|source>: _`獎助金徵件就快要進入倒數階段嘍` 有想法想要提案要加緊腳步了！如果有..._

`獎助金徵件就快要進入倒數階段嘍` 有想法想要提案要加緊腳步了！如果有時間，但不知道要做些什麼，也可以到許願池找找靈感喔！如果你還不知道獎助金是什麼，也可以馬上來了解！30 - 50 萬獎助金、顧問資源媒合，讓你開啟專案第一步！ <https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/g0vgrant2019>

@null 11:19:05

Hello everyone, in order to make g0v related domain application have a normative basis, there is a pit to establish g0v domain policy, so that you want to help the service plus http://g0v.tw or other similar domain can be simple to apply, before building a The policy guideline is placed at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4unx-__fvCc6tPLeniPd_jb5EoIDALXOYkROWyVaTo/edit# but it’s been in the discussion state for more than two years, and now I’m hoping to finalize version 1.0.0. Welcome everyone to have comments or suggestions to leave a message directly in this google doc. I also opened a #g0v-domain channel dedicated to domain use, if you are interested, you can join

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546571938144300|source>: _大家好，為了讓 g0v 相關 domain 的申請有規範依據，有一個坑是建立 g0v domain ..._

@null 12:17:17

<Http://g0v.io> Who applied for it? I just saw that 2019/1/12 is about to expire.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546575436145200|source>: _<http://g0v.io> 是誰申請的啊？剛剛看發現 2019/1/12 就要到期了_

@null 12:35:11

@au http://g0v.io Did you apply?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546576509145700|source>: _<@U02L29KSW> <http://g0v.io> 是你申請的嗎？_

@null 2019-01-04 13:04:20

Yes, it will auto-renew (g0v.link is also)

@null 2019-01-04 13:04:51

Recently useful at http://choosealicense.g0v.io/

@null 13:04:20

Yes, it will auto-renew (g0v.link is also)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546578259145800?thread_ts=1546576509.145700&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _是的，會 auto-renew (g0v.link 也是)_

@null 13:04:51

Recently useful at http://choosealicense.g0v.io/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546578290146000?thread_ts=1546576509.145700&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _最近有用在 <http://choosealicense.g0v.io/> 上_

@null 15:15:05

@tkirby You have a hacker and Ade sorted out the Suzong proposal of SDG classification, there is a spreadsheet, where?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546586104147500|source>: _<@U02RRGMJ9> 你有一次黑客松跟阿德整理了以 SDG 分類的大松提案，有一份 spreadsheet..._

@null 2019-01-04 20:03:18

This? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ZIlJU0Pnhi_uLTlnE2utyZka6QvUjz7SW7sfmJvFEg/edit?usp=sharing

@null 16:22:59

@ronnywang @ipa Still in OCF? Have you shaken in the past?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546590177148100|source>: _<@U038DCDRC> <@U02L0C4KF> 還在OCF嗎? 過去晃一下?_

@null 16:23:10

Still

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546590189148400|source>: _還在_

@null 16:24:09

Then I used to

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546590249148600|source>: _那我過去_

@null 2019-01-04 16:30:25

Come on, let's go eat fried chicken.

@null 16:26:22

Have it? Forgot 欸XDDD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546590381149100?thread_ts=1546529268.135300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _有嗎？忘記了欸 XDDD_

@null 16:30:25

Come on, let's go eat fried chicken.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546590625149300?thread_ts=1546590249.148600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _快來，我們去吃炸雞_

@null 16:42:59

@ronnywang https://dnp4pehkvoo6n.cloudfront.net/c488712c1f6b6d830d124d48746c44a7/as/12495dd1-c79b-4292-b413-98e81be4beda.json

@null 19:24:18

Yes! Last mentioned in Dasong

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546601058150300?thread_ts=1546529268.135300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _有啊！上次在大松有提到_

@null 20:03:18

This? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ZIlJU0Pnhi_uLTlnE2utyZka6QvUjz7SW7sfmJvFEg/edit?usp=sharing

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546603397150700?thread_ts=1546586104.147500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _這個? <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ZIlJU0Pnhi_uLTlnE2utyZka6QvUjz7SW7sfmJvFEg/edit?usp..._>

@null 20:40:48

I can do this in the middle of this time.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546605646150900?thread_ts=1546529268.135300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _這個我到時候可以做中翻英_

@null 23:15:03

A member of the Taipei City Council seems to support openness and transparency https://www.facebook.com/froggychiu/videos/392815011464825/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546614902151800|source>: _有位台北市議員看來很支持公開透明 <https://www.facebook.com/froggychiu/videos/392815..._>

@null 00:55:58

Net red member

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546620956152300|source>: _網紅當議員_

@null 00:57:07

I want to ask if you want to come to participate in the XD of Dasong.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546621026152800|source>: _滿想問問呱吉要不要來參加大松的 XD_

@null 01:02:52

I am looking forward to his supervision of Kep

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546621371153400|source>: _我期待他督爆柯p_

@null 01:08:25

++

patcon 07:34:31

@gj yep! hanging at a cafe in Toronto at present moment 🙂

@null 16:59:45

I am speaking in Hong Kong about how non-technical people participate in the live broadcast of citizen technology. You can answer questions online: https://www.facebook.com/1069758394/posts/10217037372941060/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546678784155800|source>: _我在香港演講非技術人如何參與公民科技的直播，大家可以一起線上回答問�..._

@null 20:23:52

<Https://join.gov.tw/rss/feed> is now 404, then https://join.gov.tw/emsg/index "Help us improve service" is 405

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546691030156200|source>: _<https://join.gov.tw/rss/feed> 現在是 404，然後 <https://join.gov.tw/emsg/index> 的「協助我�..._

@null 2019-01-05 20:25:20

<Https://join.gov.tw/contactus>?

@null 20:25:16

It seems that you can go to the FB fan page and drop it.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546691115156700|source>: _好像可以去 FB 粉絲頁丟小編_

@null 20:25:20

<Https://join.gov.tw/contactus>?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546691118156800?thread_ts=1546691030.156200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _<https://join.gov.tw/contactus> 呢？_

@null 20:33:45

Sent with contactus

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546691625157000|source>: _用 contactus 送出了_

nany 16:14:35

Hi, is there anyone that could recommend a web developer? No specific location based. Just need a recommendation of a web developer that could help revamp a non-profit website. Its a paid service, so suggestions are most welcome. 🙂

@null 17:23:57

America https://www.facebook.com/tsaiingwen/photos/a.10155581440096065/10155585111136065/?type=3

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546766635158300|source>: _阿美語 <https://www.facebook.com/tsaiingwen/photos/a.10155581440096065/10155585111136065/?type=3_>

@null 00:43:11

I think g0v is actually hopepunk http://www.thestand.news/culture/hopepunk/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546792990160200|source>: _在想 g0v 其實很 hopepunk <http://www.thestand.news/culture/hopepunk/_>

@null 03:09:44

Hey all, I've been feeling for awhile that a *community mesh internet project in Taipei* might be a really important piece of disaster preparedness. I feel it could create infrastructure that acts as a community backbone in the event of communication or power outages, just like in NYC when a super-storm hit and knocked power out for 2 weeks: https://nextcity.org/features/view/internet-connection-mesh-networks-resilience

When i was in taipei, i was asking around within g0v and hackerspace community, and nothing seemed to exist yet...

*Would anyone be interested in this sort of thing?* Or willing to connect me with other groups that might? I'd be happy to introduce folks in Taiwan with friends in Toronto who run http://tomesh.net, and who work pretty closely with Oakland and NYC groups :) I'd be excited to be helpful in any way I can!

nextcity.org

Yesterday’s Internet Isn’t Good Enough for Tomorrow’s Cities

Making connectivity more resilient is about more than floods.

@null 03:11:54

@nany if possible, it might be worth sharing the name of the nonprofit, in case the values of the nonprofit are what motivate people to speak up or share :)

@null 11:01:03

The non profit that I'm referring to is Southeast Asian Press Alliance (SEAPA) https://www.seapa.org/ @patcon 🙂

jpmckinney 13:38:48

@jpmckinney has joined the channel

@null 14:42:23

QQ

@null 16:12:33

Sorry, the scope of the garrison is too big. I will come to see the ball that I don’t know where to go after a month. I heard that the last time the editor had a wiki participant to go to the proposal? The information group of the Li Meishu Memorial Hall has a way to explain the editing of wiki data @Allen Have you contacted everyone?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546848750175600?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _抱歉啊，守備範圍太大，一個月後才來撿已經不知道跑哪去的球⋯⋯ 聽說��..._

@null 16:20:40

If it is a CC BY 3.0 translation, you can use this zh-TW 喔https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.zh_TW

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546849238175900?thread_ts=1546576509.145700&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _如果是 CC BY 3.0 的翻譯可以用這個zh-TW的喔 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/..._>

@null 23:25:44

<Https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=515471292277479&id=100014438376965> Looking forward to booking follow-up (咦?)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546874743177200|source>: _<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=515471292277479&id=100014438376965> 期待 booking 跟進..._

@null 23:25:48

Slackbot11's url: [:e-mail: I am very happy to receive a thank you letter from Expedia Group. :credit_card: Expedia is one of the largest online travel platforms in the world. Next, when the Taiwanese people swipe their cards on Expedia's website to order domestic and foreign hotels, air tickets and other services, they will not have to pay the foreign transaction fees for credit cards - in short, everyone can pay less. :gift_heart:

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546874746177400|source>: _slackbot11's url: [:e-mail: 很高興收到來自 Expedia Group 的感謝函。 :credit_card: Expedia 是全球��..._

@null 23:25:53

The success of this case has become another example of “innovation drives regulatory compliance”. I would like to thank Dean Lai Qingde, Chairman Gu Lixiong, and Minister Shen Rongjin for their full support; the Financial Management Association, the Ministry of Economic Affairs, the SME Association and the Central Bank. Units are even more important. Thanks to Expedia for their careful enumeration, these hard-working colleagues can be a famous hero in front of the scene. 🙏

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546874751177500|source>: _本案之所以能夠成功，成為「創新帶動法規調適」的又一典範，要感謝賴清�..._

@null 23:25:58

As President Tsai Ing-wen said today that he met with the "107 National Model Public Service Representatives" today: We will do our utmost to seek the best for the people of Taiwan. Let us all cheer together. ]

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546874756177600|source>: _誠如蔡英文總統今天接見「107年度全國模範公務人員代表」時所說：我們將�..._

@null 23:50:55

Yes, there is something to learn from them about Wiki Data. Thank you~~~ I learned a lot from the original concept. I originally wanted to use wikipedia to make anti-counterfeiting news sources, but I found that Wikipedia's editorial specifications must be very strict. It seems that I have to think about other ways out.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546876254177800?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _有的，那邊有跟他們學習什麼是 Wiki Data。感謝呀～～～讓原本沒有概念的�..._

@null 23:51:45

I later tried to do a HackMD-like Hackfold-type wiki on politics, but later it was not easy for the public to edit http://hackfoldr.org/tw-politics-wiki

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546876304178000?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我後來嘗試做了關於政治的 HackMD 加 Hackfoldr 型的 wiki，可是後來覺得不太容�..._

@null 23:52:24

It is not easy for the public to see, or want to see. Later, I felt that it might be easier for people to accept or touch the way.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546876343178200?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _也不容易讓大眾看到，或想要去看。後來覺得可能美玉姨那樣的方式還是比..._

@null 08:38:13

https://newsinitiative.withgoogle.com/innovation-challenges/apac-how-to-apply

@null 08:38:43

Asian pacific grant!! deadline Jan 9 !!

@null 11:13:00

<Https://medium.com/@holokchen/g0vtw-286dd13db48d> is @ael!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546917178179900|source>: _<https://medium.com/@holokchen/g0vtw-286dd13db48d> 是 @ael！_

@null 13:24:55

Https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/homelesshelperinterview :jump-g0v: The bonus grant public proposal is counted down to five days to see the participation experience of the homeless team! Ade mentioned that the grant provides a margin for the organization to have time to learn more about the different groups of ways of doing things, and to do more things that they really want to do. I welcome the news of the grants to my friends who work in non-profit organizations. Maybe this time I can change things in a different way and with technology. -- :book: What can I give to the extended reading grant? :point_down:👇 https://www.facebook.com/pg/g0v.tw/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2393014187406520&__tn__=-UC-R Awards Proposal Nine Hearts Awards :point_down:👇 https://g0v. Hackmd.io/s/HksZ3UM-N Awards Registration Method :point_down:👇 https://grants.g0v.tw/#means

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546925094181700|source>: _<https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/homelesshelperinterview> :jump-g0v:獎助金公開提案倒數五天一起..._

@null 14:05:16

If there's a job posting, I will gladly share it in my other civic tech slack of 3000 more ppl! (It's toronto-based fwiw)

@null 17:32:51

Everyone is going to ah~~~ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210506862067909&set=a.2353928147729&type=3&theater

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546939969183000|source>: _大家快上啊～～～ <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210506862067909&set=a.23539281477..._>

@null 17:46:50

I went back, it seems like a little long XD back.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546940810183600|source>: _我下去回了，好像回的有點長 XD_

Someone (across chat bridge) 18:09:37

File from bess (general@g0vtw)with comment: 發現臉書新按鈕

Image from iOS

@null 18:10:20

But I don't know what budget information does Zeng Mingzong have without Excel?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546942219184700|source>: _不過不知道曾銘宗提的沒有 Excel 是哪一個預算資料？_

@null 18:10:22

https://www.dgbas.gov.tw/ct.asp?xItem=41717&ctNode=6443&mp=1

@null 18:10:39

The budget summary of the main accounting office is released in Excel, so it is done http://budget.g0v.tw/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546942237185500|source>: _主計處的預算總表是用 Excel 放的，所以才做的出 <http://budget.g0v.tw/_>

@null 18:11:15

Or what he wants is that the ministerial level is not the hospital level?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546942275185900|source>: _還是他要的是部會等級不是院等級的？_

@null 18:11:22

Find Facebook new button point to view fan page recommendation will ask you to recommend fan page

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546942159184100|source>: _發現臉書新按鈕點檢視粉絲頁推薦會要你推薦粉絲頁_

@null 18:24:00

Saying that http://budget.g0v.tw seems to be able to do 2019 (108) version of XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546943040186400|source>: _話說 <http://budget.g0v.tw> 好像可以來做 2019 (108年度）版了 XD_

@null 18:36:40

Orz. The program that updated the 2018 data last year doesn't know where to go to XD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546943800186900|source>: _orz. 去年更新 2018 資料的程式不知道丟哪去了 XD_

@null 18:39:39

Hey, I found XDD to update the data to 2019, this time I want to push the code to github.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546943978187400|source>: _喔喔，找到了 XDD 可以來把資料更新到 2019 了，這次要記得把程式碼推上 gith..._

@null 19:44:10

There is follow-up, it feels great! ! <Https://www.facebook.com/8488708201191031/posts/8493219864073198/>

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546947849187700?thread_ts=1545624836.023900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _有後續行動了，感覺很棒！！ <https://www.facebook.com/8488708201191031/posts/84932198640..._>

@null 21:52:14

Hey, http://budget.g0v.tw I was ruined.. The nodejs project only changed once a year, then the dependency will die.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546955532189100|source>: _嗚嗚，<http://budget.g0v.tw> 被我搞壞了…. nodejs 專案一年只改一次的話 dependency �..._

@null 21:55:02

It's fixed…

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546955702189300|source>: _修好了…_

@null 21:55:07

<Http://budget.g0v.tw/budget> has 2019 data

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546955706189600|source>: _<http://budget.g0v.tw/budget> 有 2019 年資料了_

Someone (across chat bridge) 22:04:21

File from daixiaoluck (general@g0vtw)with comment: 這裡有沒有維基百科的參與人士？遇到這種弱智行為，該告知誰？

7b5716ac64337d3b

@null 22:05:13

@Shawn can go to https://www.facebook.com/groups/tw.wiki/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546956312191400|source>: _@Shawn 可以到 <https://www.facebook.com/groups/tw.wiki/_>

@null 22:10:02

@ronnywang Thank you.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546956600193200|source>: _<@U038DCDRC> 謝謝。_

@null 22:13:12

People in Citizen Technology - How do non-technical people participate? Verbatim draft (lecture part) //So the g0v community emphasizes open collaboration, we are not just for public issues, we also want information to be open – that is, for example, we represent a weak group today, then we have information The open content includes: "When we want to go to the government meeting, the meeting minutes can be made available to our community and related people"; or ". Those who use our tools, they can give us advice." I personally don't like groups that are smaller than a small circle -- that is, "we can represent some people." He will take the title and business card to a meeting - we don't want it. When more information is open to more people, more people can join. So our community is a de-intermediation and multi-centered. // full text https://medium.com/@holokchen/g0vtw-286dd13db48d

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546956791193400|source>: _公民科技中的人 — 非科技人如何參與﹖逐字稿（講座部分）／／所以 g..._

Medium

公民科技中的人 — 非科技人如何參與﹖ – 陳可樂 HoLok Chen – Medium

前頭的工程師最討厭被人指揮去做什麼事情，大家都想要參與有趣的事情，然後有創意的方法。大家都想要想到一個有趣的方法，而不是被命令 — — 如果我只是被指派要做什麼事情，那我只要上班就好了，我沒有必要在假日的時候來做這樣的事情。

@null 22:18:37

Huang Zhebin helps advertising g0v grant https://www.wealth.com.tw/home/articles/19273

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546957114193900|source>: _黃哲斌幫忙廣告 g0v grant <https://www.wealth.com.tw/home/articles/19273_>

@null 22:19:51

@ronnywang I just watched, the link you sent is not a chat room. I just want to tell this information privately and I don't want to say it publicly.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546957191195300|source>: _<@U038DCDRC> 我剛看了下，你發的連結不是聊天室。我只想私下告知這些資訊，��..._

@null 00:53:48

It’s said that it’s also publicly said.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546966428196700|source>: _在這裡說其實也是公開說 :neutral_face:_

@null 01:43:38

Hello everyone, I want to use the flow of donations from Kaohsiung, but I can't find it. This is the official website http://socbu.kcg.gov.tw/kcg_gas/index.php?prog=21&icf_code=F201506005 But this is only a rough amount of money for each major project (each amount is six) More than the number of digits) Does anyone know which other websites in the government will put in the details of spending data? Or is it possible that Kaohsiung City did not put the details on the Internet? (I think this is quite important, because the Kaohsiung gas explosion donation is really super, it is really not very good to put the super-large project details.) In fact, I am not sure that this question is suitable for this question~ If not suitable I will delete the message~ Thank you all~~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546969413202500|source>: _大家好，我想要找高雄氣爆的捐款使用流向，但是找不太到。這是氣爆的��..._

@null 10:44:48

Very suitable for asking questions, the more detailed information seems to rely on the old driver (?). If you can't ask here, you can go to "g0v Logistics Center" facebook group

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547001887205300|source>: _很適合問唷，更細部的資料看起來只能靠老司機 (?) 了。如果這裡問不到也�..._

@null 16:09:34

what is this?

@null 16:10:38

nobody here?

@null 16:11:28

No one is here

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547021487206900|source>: _沒有人在這裡_

@null 16:12:34

so you are a robot?

@null 16:13:10

anyway , what's this channel's topic?

@null 16:58:40

@Jackhan generally the #general channel generates general exchanges among this generally generous general assembly of g0vers.

@null 18:07:37

Mozilla's online health report will be open in April and May. I would like to ask if there are any suitable activities for the two months. They also want to get a press conference or debrief in Taiwan. SITCON is too early, COSCUP is too late

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547028456211700|source>: _Mozilla 今年的網路健康報告會在四五月公開，想問問這兩個月有沒有什麼適��..._

@null 2019-01-09 18:19:03

Dasong’s words are expected at the end of May.

@null 18:19:03

Dasong’s words are expected at the end of May.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547029142212200?thread_ts=1547028456.211700&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _大松的話預計在五月底_

@null 18:19:35

MordernWeb?

@null 18:19:38

https://modernweb.tw/

@null 18:19:57

What iThome does

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547029197213100|source>: _iThome 辦的_

@null 22:22:00

This article is interesting https://www.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=5093610

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547043719213700|source>: _這篇文章有意思 <https://www.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=5093610_>

@null 07:02:43

One person "net army"? (Lonely?)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547074963213900|source>: _一人 "網軍" 嗎 ... (孤軍?)_

@null 07:03:30

How was the first picture drawn?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547075010214000|source>: _第一張圖是怎麼畫出來的呢_

@null 10:08:45

Let me consider whether it is suitable or not.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547086124215300?thread_ts=1547028456.211700&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _讓我考慮下適不適合⋯⋯_

@null 10:17:50

So the conclusion is that creating network and theory is not difficult. 🤔

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547086668215500?thread_ts=1547043719.213700&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _所以結論是創造網路與論不是很難的意思囉。:thinking_face:_

@null 12:20:59

Excuse me, is all the bids and procurement cases with the amount greater than 100,000 going to the website of the Engineering Association? Like http://www.taitung.gov.tw/News_Content.aspx?n=CD06B744144B473C&sms=C60A755346B658C5&s=C1411454846DCDFC I can't find this case at the engineering meeting.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547094057216500|source>: _請問一下，是所有的金額大於十萬的標案和採購案都會上工程會網站嗎？像..._

@null 2019-01-10 14:21:28

<Http://www.wges.tc.edu.tw/ok/work5.htm> Open tender = 1 million, publicly obtained quotation = 100,000, both must go online, but the project website is the former

@null 14:21:28

<Http://www.wges.tc.edu.tw/ok/work5.htm> Open tender = 1 million, publicly obtained quotation = 100,000, both must go online, but the project website is the former

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547101287217200?thread_ts=1547094057.216500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _<http://www.wges.tc.edu.tw/ok/work5.htm> 公開招標 = 100 萬，公開取得報價 = 10 萬，兩者..._

@null 14:41:27

@au pm5 Going to FAT/Asia this weekend (https://www.digitalasiahub.org/announcing-fatasia-hong-kong-11-12-january-2019/fatasia-registration/) FAT/Asia want to talk to pm5 Taiwan government and startup how to do trust in AI, can ask Taiwan what is the relevant policy?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547102485218300|source>: _<@U02L29KSW> pm5 這週末要去 FAT/Asia (<https://www.digitalasiahub.org/announcing-fatasia-hong-kong-11-12..._>

@null 2019-01-10 14:50:31

If you are abroad, https://ai.taiwan.gov.tw/ has a policy overview

@null 2019-01-10 14:52:33

But is it related to ethical? like citizen data governance?

@null 2019-01-10 14:53:00

Rights & obligations are placed under Regulatory Co-creation. Previously, the Ministry of Science and Technology had a series of research projects and workshops, and some of them had a collection of books, such as http://www.angle.com.tw/Book.asp?BKID=10367

@null 2019-01-10 14:54:52

The data governance norms, to the best of my knowledge, are prioritized by some of the government-sponsored technology projects of the current year, but the future scope of application is not limited to technology projects.

@null 2019-01-10 14:55:38

thanksgiving

@null 2019-01-10 15:01:08

@pm5 ^

@null 2019-01-10 15:06:29

thx

@null 2019-01-10 15:10:19

In addition, regulatory co-creation can still mention ai mobility sandbox. Recently, Hong Kong 01 has a related topic for reference https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E5%8D%80%E5%B0%88%E9%A1%8C/279551/%E7%84 %A1%E4%BA%BA%E8%BB%8A-4-%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E7%AB%8B%E6%96%B0%E4%BE%8B%E5% 89%B5%E5%8F%8B%E5%96%84%E7%92%B0%E5%A2%83-%E5%8A%A9%E5%89%B5%E7%A7%91%E6%8B %86%E7%89%86%E9%AC%86%E7%B6%81

@null 14:45:32

do we have anything like this?
https://www.ospi.es/export/sites/ospi/documents/documentos/Tecnologias-habilitantes/AI_HLEG_Draft_Ethics_Guidelines.pdf

@null 14:50:31

If you are abroad, https://ai.taiwan.gov.tw/ has a policy overview

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547103029218900?thread_ts=1547102485.218300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _到國外講的話， <https://ai.taiwan.gov.tw/> 有 policy overview_

@null 14:52:33

But is it related to ethical? like citizen data governance?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547103153219200?thread_ts=1547102485.218300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _不過有跟ethical有關的嗎? like citizen data governance?_

@null 14:53:00

Rights & obligations are placed under Regulatory Co-creation. Previously, the Ministry of Science and Technology had a series of research projects and workshops, and some of them had a collection of books, such as http://www.angle.com.tw/Book.asp?BKID=10367

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547103176219400?thread_ts=1547102485.218300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _rights & obligations 是放在 Regulatory Co-creation 項下。之前科技部有辦一系列研究�..._

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作者：劉靜怡劉靜怡,顏厥安,吳從周,李榮耕,邱文聰,沈宗倫,黃居正／　　人工智慧在資訊科學領域的再度興起，被認為極可能因此劇烈改變人類的經濟、社會與文化生活模式。2017年9月舉辦之「人工智慧相關法律議題工作坊」，針對人工智慧對於法學理論和法律體系將帶來哪些影響，以及人工智慧在民刑事法律責任、個資保護、智慧財產權、行政管制、政府執法和跨國互動等法律層面，將會引發哪些潛在法律爭議，進行主題報告。會後，講者們共同決定將當天的報告內容，進一步撰寫成學術論文，編纂為本專書...

@null 14:54:52

The data governance norms, to the best of my knowledge, are prioritized by some of the government-sponsored technology projects of the current year, but the future scope of application is not limited to technology projects.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547103288219700?thread_ts=1547102485.218300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _資料治理規範，以我所知是以本年度部分政府資助之科技計畫優先試行，但�..._

@null 14:55:38

thanksgiving

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547103338219900?thread_ts=1547102485.218300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _感恩_

@null 15:01:08

@pm5 ^

@null 15:03:21

Had to mozcontw? (pushing the pit)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547103799220300?thread_ts=1547028456.211700&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _只好 mozcontw了？（亂推坑）_

@null 15:06:29

thx

@null 15:10:19

In addition, regulatory co-creation can still mention ai mobility sandbox. Recently, Hong Kong 01 has a related topic for reference https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E5%8D%80%E5%B0%88%E9%A1%8C/279551/%E7%84 %A1%E4%BA%BA%E8%BB%8A-4-%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E7%AB%8B%E6%96%B0%E4%BE%8B%E5% 89%B5%E5%8F%8B%E5%96%84%E7%92%B0%E5%A2%83-%E5%8A%A9%E5%89%B5%E7%A7%91%E6%8B %86%E7%89%86%E9%AC%86%E7%B6%81

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547104218221100?thread_ts=1547102485.218300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _另外 regulatory co-creation 還是可以提 ai mobility sandbox。最近香港 01 有一個相關�..._

@null 18:36:22

I have classified the current grant proposal. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2224019560941650&set=gm.1983378801738516&type=3&theater&ifg=1 Currently there are environmental, agricultural, fire/medical, literature , open materials, local, gender equality, justice

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547116580222200|source>: _我把目前的獎助金提案做了分類 :point_down::point_down::point_down: <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2224..._>

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@null 19:39:34

I saw the draft, but the analysis will be another month.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547120373222500?thread_ts=1547102485.218300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _看到草稿了，不過分析要再一個月_

@null 12:07:09

@nany i'll immodestly put forward my worker-cooperative web development firm, https://agaric.coop And quite apart from that, speaking as a respectful supporter of the media reform movement in the US, SEAPA's homepage alone is an impressive whirlwind of hard-hitting statements and reports!

@null 15:04:22

Hey, do you know that the referendum can open a fundraising account? According to the regulations 2018/11/24 vote + 30 days deadline for declaration + 45 days to publish the government gazette. Please pay attention to it.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547190258226500|source>: _咦，大家知道公投可以開募集經費專戶嗎？按規定2018/11/24投票+30天截止申��..._

@null 15:56:21

Share this article and, by the way, ask if anyone has read the literature cited in this article. <Https://www.inside.com.tw/article/15254-report-people-and-older-share-more-fake-news-than-other-groups> My question is, if age is the key, but if you consider Is the use of social media at a high age, and the influence of spreading false news at a high age is not very small? (By the way, is there a team that is doing fake news now? Which channel should I share?)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547193380229300|source>: _分享一下這個文章，順便問一下是否有人看過這篇文章所引用的文獻。 https:..._

@null 16:10:26

The social media you want may be different from the social media that the older ages think?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547194225229600|source>: _<JediLin> 你想的社交媒體跟高年齡層想的社交媒體可能是不同的東西？_

@null 16:37:07

I just want to define more carefully the high ages and the media that they actually use. One possible scenario is that the real high age layer may rarely use facebook...BUT they often watch TV. The problem is, but TV news often doesn't verify the information that references the Internet, and that it spreads faster than social media. (And then through the gathering of the elderly and then word of mouth...)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547195825229700?thread_ts=1547194225.229600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我只是想更仔細的定義高年齡，以及他們真正使用的訊息傳播媒介。有一個�..._

@null 18:11:58

Instead of defining "high age", I think we should define the word "fake news"...

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547201515230100|source>: _<gugod> 與其給「高年齡」下定義，我覺得應該給「假新聞」這個字眼下定義��..._

@null 19:04:30

Social media under the age of 15 is also different from what you guys think (mistakes)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547204669230900|source>: _15歲以下的社交媒體也跟你們這群老人想的不一樣(誤)_

@null 19:07:20

The text has the original link http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/1/eaau4586 "Fake news definition" is also in the "MATERIALS AND METHODS > Defining fake news" area, basically look at the domain

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547204836231500|source>: _內文有原文連結呀 <http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/1/eaau4586> 「假新聞定義」�..._

@null 19:52:12

You can change it yourself https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%BC%96%E8%BE%91%E6%96%B9%E9%92%88#%E5%98%97% E8%A9%A6%E8%A7%A3%E6%B1%BA%E5%95%8F%E9%A1%8C

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547207529232300?thread_ts=1546957191.195300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _你可以自己改 <https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%BC%96%E8%BE%91%E6%96%B9%E9%92%88#%E5%..._>

@null 22:18:43

@yutin Is there a foreign speaker who wants to know that the speech is public? She wants to find her own speech, is Adriana.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547216319233700|source>: _<@U03B2AB13> 有外國講者想知道演講的影片公開了嗎？她想要找自己的演講，是 Adr..._

@null 00:34:11

Excuse me, who is the ER db in the tube O_O?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547224450234200|source>: _請問一下現在 ER 的 db 是誰在管 O_O?_

@null 2019-01-12 15:39:58

Want to move?

@null 05:44:09

[Successful teammates] Is there anyone interested in the topic of campus power saving?~~~ There is a pit owner at the bottom of the pit for a long time. I hope someone can fill in https://g0v.hackmd.io/c/wishingken with me. /https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2Fu1gTpl8gTSGfYasX9Db8Kg%23_%3D_

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547243046234700|source>: _[誠徵隊友] 有沒有人對校園節電議題有興趣的啊～～～這裡有一個坑主在坑�..._

@null 15:39:58

Want to move?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547278796235900?thread_ts=1547224450.234200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _要搬家嗎？_

@null 19:06:32

The @t0mst0ne script part is thinking that it should be upgraded to 3.x. Also consider whether to replace the livescript part with nodejs: thinking_face:

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547291191238100?thread_ts=1547224450.234200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _<@U038BSCK3> script 的部份在想應該要升到 3.x 也在考慮要不要把 livescript 的部份就..._

@null 19:21:01

Ok !

@null 19:22:10

Livescript is really a drug change, or it is difficult to find the old version of the transplant.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547292129239900?thread_ts=1547224450.234200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _Livescript 真的藥改，不然移植很難找到舊版_

@null 19:36:37

It is recommended to translate line by line instead of using the output js directly.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547292996241000?thread_ts=1547224450.234200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _建議逐行翻譯，而不是拿輸出的 js 直接用_

@null 23:22:29

@yutin Is there a movie that the foreign speaker wants to know about the speech is public? She wants to find her own speech, is Adriana.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547216319233700|source>: _<@U03B2AB13> 有 summit外國講者想知道演講的影片公開了嗎？她想要找自己的演講， ..._

@null 10:24:08

Today is the last day of the public grant proposal! Upload deadline: 1/13 23:59 Friends who are interested in participating can remember to grasp the time. If you can't finish writing, you should upload the proposal at least today. The uploaded proposal can be modified to 1/15, but you must upload it today! <Https://www.facebook.com/g0v.tw/posts/2440245349350070>

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547346247241900|source>: _今天就是獎助金公開提案最後一天嘍！上傳截止時間：1/13 23:59 有興趣參與..._

@null 11:03:55

Hey g0vers! I recently made this web page https://speakup.tw/en/idg-xi based on the many translations (translated by g0vers and other professionals) of this incredibly beautiful declaration issued by representatives of Taiwan’s indigenous peoples. I’m wondering if anyone’s interested to contribute more languages to it? I think it will be great 🙂

speakup.tw

Indigenous Peoples of Taiwan to President Xi Jinping of China

Taiwan is the sacred land where generations of our ancestors have lived and protected with their lives. It has never belonged to China.

gj 2019-01-14 00:17:31

Awesome! Happy to translate in Korean.

Is it okay to translate some of texts naturally not strictly by words. or you want me to literally translate?

gj 2019-01-14 00:18:10

한국어 하실줄 아는 분은 여기 구글독스에서 같이 번역해요~ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yrweju6jpVB2MwqSnsF8-5Gjq1eoZMC5cRbKPVgdGjg/edit?usp=sharing

mlncn 2019-01-15 21:58:23

@chihao wow, excellent! I didn't see a place for a pull request so one typo to fix: promenent => prominent
(i did fix it in https://g0v.hackmd.io/QQfOlJONQNC5tc5c3UTMXg )

chihao 2019-01-15 22:45:15

@ben612 You can’t send a PR? Weird :( I didn’t do anything to prevent that

mlncn 2019-01-15 22:45:30

oh i just didn't find the repository!

chihao 2019-01-15 22:46:41

Oh sorry the GitHub link is quite small on the page

mlncn 2019-01-16 01:26:20

ah i should have used ctrl+f 😉

gj 00:17:31

Awesome! Happy to translate in Korean.

Is it okay to translate some of texts naturally not strictly by words. or you want me to literally translate?

gj 00:18:10

한국어 하실줄 아는 분은 여기 구글독스에서 같이 번역해요~ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yrweju6jpVB2MwqSnsF8-5Gjq1eoZMC5cRbKPVgdGjg/edit?usp=sharing

#SpeakUpForTaiwan(EN&TW to KOREAN)

chihao 03:18:27

I think it is ok to translate parts of this “naturally” and poetically. I did that for some parts of this declaration.

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chihao 03:19:11

I also opened a hackmd template for anyone who wants to start a new language translation https://g0v.hackmd.io/QQfOlJONQNC5tc5c3UTMXg @gj you could use it too to port the korean to hackmd 🙂

g0v.hackmd.io

翻譯：台灣原住民族致中國習近平主席 Translate: Indigenous Peoples of Taiwan to President Xi Jinping of China - HackMD

gj 2019-01-14 04:10:13

Thanks for making the template. ;)

gj 2019-01-15 02:28:10

Korean(한국어) translation is mostly done, but needs proofreading! https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/SJlpaBcGE

💜 1

gj 04:10:13

Thanks for making the template. ;)

@null 14:22:45

It is up to you to discuss the trend of citizen technology. Vote for the topic of the column for cooperation every two weeks in the world, and promote the scientific and technological discussion of citizens in Taiwan. Since June of last year, the Open Cultural Foundation and the World Cooperation column have been selected from the Civic Science Weekly report in the past two weeks, and the community voted for the draft to incorporate citizen technology into the public discussion in Taiwan. At first glance, it seems to be a fair credit score, but behind it is hidden! 🏚️ The landlord is bad, what should the tenant do? 📚 Tutoring is too expensive, Indian Internet companies recruited teachers and students to use new civic participation methods to create a zero-spam city topic details portal: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGAEjEC8xgCXkVbmt- 7VkfyWIDOumktE58Vf8xpd1y0/edit#

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547446963251500|source>: _公民科技趨勢討論，由你決定。投票選擇天下每兩週合作的專欄文章題目，�..._

@null 23:43:45

Hi everyone, here is a group of mountain pigs~~~ 揪松团 Please @moon_c Draw a Chinese New Year greeting card, I am thinking about printing a few sheets, some people want to take it away, the front pattern is `Roasted Mountain Pig` On the back is the `blank postcard'. ~ `Please tell me here that you want +1 or more, one is currently preset up to 5, and you have to trouble OCF self-fetching ` https://drive.google.com /file/d/1thnf2c6eZgd710mBzC2DsIbtgk2EhgZq/view?usp=sharing

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547480623256800|source>: _Hi 大家，這裡有一批山豬～～～揪松團請 <@U02L27CGL> 畫了農曆新年賀卡，正在��..._

@null 2019-01-15 03:02:38

+1~~

@null 2019-01-15 09:05:53

+1~

@null 2019-01-15 14:15:43

Great

gj 02:28:10

Korean(한국어) translation is mostly done, but needs proofreading! https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/SJlpaBcGE

❤️ 1

@null 03:02:38

+1~~

@null 09:05:53

+1~

@null 14:15:43

Great

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547532942260400?thread_ts=1547480623.256800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _好棒喔 :heart:_

@null 15:17:31

<Https://www.facebook.com/coataiwan/photos/a.1661824860809011/2221570948167730/?type=3&theater> # Fake news is coming, how do you feel about legislation? XDDD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547536649261500|source>: _<https://www.facebook.com/coataiwan/photos/a.1661824860809011/2221570948167730/?type=3&theater> # 假..._

@null 2019-01-15 18:07:40

Just use the existing ones. http://www.rootlaw.com.tw/LawArticle.aspx?LawID=A040170060000100-1070613&ShowType=Ref&FLNO=63000

@null 16:35:42

What is the fake news where is it?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547541341261900|source>: _什麼假新聞在哪裡在哪裡_

@null 18:07:40

Just use the existing ones. http://www.rootlaw.com.tw/LawArticle.aspx?LawID=A040170060000100-1070613&ShowType=Ref&FLNO=63000

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547546859262100?thread_ts=1547536649.261500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _用現有的就好呀。 <http://www.rootlaw.com.tw/LawArticle.aspx?LawID=A040170060000100-1070613&S..._>

mlncn 21:29:12

@ben612 has joined the channel

mlncn 21:58:23

@chihao wow, excellent! I didn't see a place for a pull request so one typo to fix: promenent => prominent
(i did fix it in https://g0v.hackmd.io/QQfOlJONQNC5tc5c3UTMXg )

g0v.hackmd.io

翻譯模板：台灣原住民族致中國習近平主席 Template for Translation: Indigenous Peoples of Taiwan to President Xi Jinping of China - HackMD

@null 22:15:26

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<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547561722262700?thread_ts=1545624836.023900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _抱歉，很久才上來看訊息 XD 謝謝支持 !! 我們最近也有很有趣的行動喔~~ 是��..._

chihao 22:45:15

@ben612 You can’t send a PR? Weird :( I didn’t do anything to prevent that

mlncn 22:45:30

oh i just didn't find the repository!

chihao 22:46:41

Oh sorry the GitHub link is quite small on the page

@null 23:47:27

Speak an egg, as long as the g0v grant uses the same computer to mention two cases, your proposal content will be continuously covered>///<

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547567245267300|source>: _講個彩蛋，只要在 g0v grant 用同台電腦提兩個案，你的提案內容就會不斷被��..._

@null 23:50:08

You can enjoy yourself (?)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547567407267500|source>: _可以自得其樂(?)_

mlncn 01:26:20

ah i should have used ctrl+f 😉

Someone (across chat bridge) 14:38:48

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@null 18:35:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsBchXoY9-o The title has been cut to 100 words.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547634920270200|source>: _<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsBchXoY9-o> 標題被 100 字限制切到了唷_

YouTube

剪接好的 g0v Summit 2018 Day2 R2 05 【追真相】Pegabot：媒體識讀及機器人辨識工具【譯】／【Chasing truth】Pegabot Bot Buster：an on

@null 18:48:48

I should have a response below.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547635727270400?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我下面應該有回應唷_

@null 18:49:42

In fact, Carol and I are back below.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547635780270600?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _事實上是，下面 Carol 跟我都回了。_

@null 21:37:10

Hi @au Thanks for providing a verbatim clarification question, but I would like to take the opportunity to ask, regarding the news, "The high-level person said that the health insurance IC card is confirmed and the wafer identity card is merged." Is this a misinformation? If it is, then it can be dispatched in the future. Does the number method 19-1~19-4 force him to get off the shelf? XDDD https://news.cts.com.tw/cts/life/201812/201812031944743.html

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547645828271100?thread_ts=1546264318.085800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _Hi <@U02L29KSW> 感謝提供逐字稿釐清問題, 不過我想藉機請問一下, 關於新聞所述 "高層..._

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@null 21:40:49

Please refer to the answer from Luo Zhengwei 2018-12-13. https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-13-%E8%A1%8C%E6%94%BF%E9%99%A2%E7%AC%AC-3630-%E6% AC%A1%E6%9C%83%E8%AD%B0%E5%BE%8C%E8%A8%98%E8%80%85%E6%9C%83#s244661

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547646048271500?thread_ts=1546264318.085800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _請參考羅政委 2018-12-13 的回答。 <https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-13-%E8%A1%8C%E6%94%..._>

@null 21:41:15

This can refer to the relevant paragraph of the 12/20 verbatim draft: https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-20-%E5%81%A5%E4%BF%9D%E5%8D% A1%E7%A0%94%E5%95%86%E6%9C%83%E8%AD%B0#s252472

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1546565748139500?thread_ts=1546264318.085800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _這個可以參考 12/20 逐字稿的相關段落： <https://sayit.pdis.nat.gov.tw/2018-12-20-%E5%81..._>

@null 22:54:06

+1~~

@null 13:03:54

Hihi later Shi Xiu also returned to me, and I also responded with the following article: https://www.facebook.com/hyuui/posts/10216456730786793?comment_id=10216507882305549&reply_comment_id=10216508675365375&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R% 22%7D What I am thinking about now is that this discussion seems to be able to unravel two conflicting dimensions. The first dimension is to compare the emotional dimension of the surface, somewhat similar to the conservative critique of the progress. From the nuclear end point of view, they originally had their own battlefield. Now suddenly one more Cofacts invites them to join, they will feel that they can't take care of each other; but on the other hand, because the platform is open, it will make the nuclear eventually feel more resourceful. (I am assuming that the "ruling party" and environmental groups like GreenPeace, which have received many donations from different countries), are more capable than ever to use this battlefield, and therefore will be resentful. This is a kind of "I am already very busy, why do you want to make me busier?", which explains why he wrote the sentence "Resources suppress the resources without resources." Another deeper dimension is the concept of responsibility for "innocent evil" mentioned in the verse of the sect. There is a problem of responsibility behind this, and this is completely in conflict with the open source community's "freedom and exemption" habits; because of the warranty free spirit, open source software developers can try all kinds of possibilities (so this is actually the same A little progressive feels a lot like). Reference: Legal Meaning of Disclaimer in the License Terms https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AjV00-TBPR70J%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.openfoundry.org%2Ftw%2Flegal-article% 2F518-2010-07-15-10-50-58%20&cd=1&hl=zh-TW&ct=clnk&gl=tw&fbclid=IwAR1lsOTo-0YAdlMni2Xq1a39D_s6f_TZfr6s1WuZxbFiTQHpR_tfH_aAAbQ However, the "fault" mentioned in the free exemption of open source culture usually does not cause commercial losses; When I jumped out of the software field and began to use social software for open source software, we can claim the degree of "free reimbursement", which is something I can't imagine at present. In particular, the nuclear terminal that is now questioning, as far as I know, seems to be free. I feel a little confused here, so I hope to hear from everyone.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547701425273900?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _Hihi 後來士修也有回我了，我也有跟著回應，文章如下： <https://www.facebook.com>..._

@null 14:51:05

I think the former is related to the world view that the other party believes. The discussion may have no results. Focus on the latter questions.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547707865275300?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我覺得前者和對方相信的世界觀有關，討論可能沒有結果，專注在後面的問�..._

@null 14:58:23

> I feel a little confused here, so I hope to hear your opinions. The abstraction of the concept is not enough. As you said, he mixed the two or three concepts. 1. You have resources and technology. We don't have (emotional bursts). 2. "The people who use technology are often not neutral. "His wording is actually very detailed. He does not mean that "technology is not neutral", but that it is not neutral under the factual check and g0v. (Otherwise, there is someone who swears to defend the conservative value...XD) 3. Neutrality and justice, even the definition of fact (Shi Xiu is not clearly defined, I believe we all know that this is also difficult to define, are Case by case)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547708302279500?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _>這裏我覺得有些迷惘，所以希望聽聽看大家的意見。士修概念抽象化的不�..._

@null 15:04:25

In fact, he actually points out 3 in the essay, but I think his meaning is somewhat different from the interpretation of his meaning. Although he has always re-needed the necessity of editing the position, but his meaning is actually irrelevant to the editor. A seemingly far-reaching example, I believe he meant this. We want to decentralized decision-making mechanisms
Unstructured tyranny tells you that there is no such thing, don't dream, we want a machine/mechanism that does not contain human factors to handle whether the statement is true or false
Dreaming is because people are judged whether the statement is true or false, so you can’t hold the technical banner and shake it to say that we are neutral and have no position. This is a cover-up.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547708663279800?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _他在回文裡面其實比較點出3了，不過我看他的意思跟你看他的意思解讀有點..._

@null 15:05:01

"Any technical method that wants to break away from the credibility of "people" cannot solve the problem of "community". "Since he said this sentence two or three times, then I think this should be his focus XD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547708700280100?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _"任何想要脫離「人」的公信力的技術方法，都無從解決「社群」的問題。" ..._

@null 15:11:25

**** I 4 separate lines **** Of course this does not mean that cofacts are working in white, I don't want to objectively talk about my own views. The average person is too stupid to see too little through the line bot. It is good to force them to read more information. No matter what color information is used, the tone of the propaganda must of course say that we are colorless and neutral. This can stand on the moral high ground and be more attractive to the general political position. Feeling friends, let our leverage be bigger, but the implementer should not make a mistake. You will have a vision and values, and you will have a position and a determination to push for change. No matter what your heart looks like, the result is that Chatbot pushes each one. The article may be blue + - one vote green + - one vote white + - one vote, of course, this is not the only ruler... In short, forcing people to read different positions must be good or bad, even if it is "fake" Or it is impossible to define true and false at all, not too much.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709083280400?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _****我4分隔線**** 當然這並不代表cofacts是在白做工，我就不要假客觀講我自��..._

@null 15:11:35

Thanks to the analysis of @a29988122, I did focus on the "responsibility" part and missed the part of his questioning of "neutrality." For neutrality, in fact, the return of Cofacts would be "people are not neutral, we did not say that they are fair third parties, but the system is indeed open": https://medium.com/cofacts/%E6%91 %98%E6%8E%89-%E5%85%AC%E6%AD%A3%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%89%E6%96%B9-%E7%9A%84%E9%AB %98%E5%B8%BD%E5%AD%90-cofacts-%E5%B0%8D%E9%99%B0%E8%AC%80%E8%AB%96%E7%9A%84%E5% 9B%9E%E6%87%89-bd948d128d6c So the next focus will be back to 1. This mechanism of "let everyone participate" will make it easier for those with resources to master. 2. The allegations of the responsibility of "innocent evil" will actually make future open source developers reluctant to step into the realm of changing society; but we can protect our participation in society by "freedom and exemption".

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709094280700?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _感謝 <@U78GAJAHJ> 的分析，我確實把重點放在「責任」的部分，而漏掉了他對「�..._

@null 15:12:48

❤️

@null 15:13:24

I can give you an example of our blockchain.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709203281400?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我可以給你一個我們區塊鍊那邊的例子_

@null 15:13:56

"Whether this kind of mechanism that allows everyone to participate" will make it easier for those with resources to master. "Yes, but the resources are to take time to change, to "infiltrate"

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709231281800?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _"這種「讓大家都能參與」的機制，是否會讓有資源的一方更容易掌握。" 是..._

@null 15:14:40

Is the legendary 51% attack?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709280282200?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _傳說中的 51% attack 嗎_

@null 15:15:57

Then it depends on the background data of the cofacts. If the data starts to be big, the parties will start to be eager to start the startup circle. They should have experienced their own equity and were diluted by the people/investors who entered the company. Even if you don’t talk about such a temple, Sanli’s native drama also has a lot of power to seize power. So I see that this kind of mechanism that allows everyone to participate will make it easier for those with resources to master. Can answer in seconds, because this has the correct answer.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709356282400?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _那這就要看cofacts的後臺數據了..如果數據開始大的話，各方本來就會開始蠢�..._

@null 15:16:40

51% is similar. Just like bitcoin claims to be super decentralized, the result is still occupied by most of the Chinese ASIC producer (think of a group of people with party production). XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709398282700?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _51% 類似啦就像bitcoin號稱超級去中心化，結果還是被中國ASIC producer(想成有�..._

@null 15:20:09

**The following personal positions** As for whether this is something to worry about, I don't think so. Since the thing to do is a chatbot, it is necessary to change the mentality. The core goal of the product should be finished in one sentence. Suppose he is "a news that allows users to see the opposite position of the mainstream media." Then you should use all kinds of evil. The politically incorrect method of unscrupulous and unproductive, let the user keep rising and keep rising since the core goal is maintained. I did not say that I have to make a fake, right? Because of the wording of each news, every punctuation, there is almost no way to hardly divide it. "This is a historical fact or a historical explanation." So I finally read the editorial group of the manuscript. Say don't think too much because every minute you spend on the core value of the product or on the way, your users will grow one point slower, and your influence will not increase your thrust.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709608283000?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _**以下個人立場** 至於這個是不是要擔心的事情，我覺得不是。既然做的東..._

@null 15:24:46

>1. So just give me 10 million, can I bring a bunch of blue camp writers to go with the wind? I think this thing is not saved. Whoever does it all is the same. Jumping out to defend the core value of the so-called entrepreneurship is actually just self-satisfaction. >Because the truth is, they simply can't stop the system from being abused. In fact, no one has the ability to do this. You can see that my opinion with Shi Xiu has a coincidence here. >2. Finally, once again, the key to solving the problem is actually to re-emphasize the importance of the editorial profession. Any technical method that wants to break away from the credibility of "people" cannot solve the problem of "community". Re-raise once to make a close 1. No one has the ability to maintain neutrality, humans have not yet figured out that such a method can work, it may be a non-existent rationality. 2. The direction of the product is determined by the core decision makers. In the context of cofacts is editing. Wikipedia doesn't have a bunch of junk because it's a dynamic balance (** speculation**). To make the internals of the network big enough, the snowballs will mix. At the beginning, small projects and small products could not be considered at all. Some people on the roadside would help to fill the pits. They must have taken up 99.87% of their time. So let yourself be more subjective and not too confused.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709882283300?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _>1.所以只要給我一千萬，我可以帶一堆藍營的寫手進去帶風向嗎？我認為這�..._

@null 15:25:44

❤️

@null 15:26:02

It is too ugly to say that this new slack logo is like a cancer cell. Feeling terrible...

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547709961284000|source>: _話說這個slack的新logo簡直像癌細胞，太難看了。覺得可怕..._

@null 15:30:59

I have seen edit2's allegations of responsibility for "innocent evil", in fact, will make future open source developers reluctant to step into the realm of changing society; but we can protect our society from being "free of charge". Do you really think that the House of Representatives usually cares about this concept? I heard Hannah Arendt? How could it be lol? Believe me, I am definitely not a monk, but my science and engineering house has been mixed with the temperature layer for a long time. There is a saying on our side: "Don't invent the need that does not exist." What do you say? Engineers will think that a is very important. b is very important. c is very important. It took half a year and nine months to give birth to abc and found that the product was not used by many users and it was not quite cool. Later, after doing the (quality) user interview, it was discovered.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547710258284300?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我看到edit2了 >對於「天真的邪惡」的責任的指控，其實會讓未來的開源開��..._

@null 15:31:11

Only when I discovered that the user’s biggest demand is simply

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547710270284500?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _才發現使用者最大宗的需求根本是ㄅ_

@null 15:31:57

It is best to avoid "premature optimization" when you are working on a project. > The naive evil context will become

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547710316284700?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _在做專案的時候最好避免"premature optimization" 放在這裡>天真的邪惡的語境就�..._

@null 15:32:52

"Don't think too much, wait until fifty people come to lean on you and say that you are evil and blame."

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547710369284900?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _"不要想太多，等到五十個人來跟你們靠腰說你們好邪惡都卸責"再說。_

@null 15:34:23

Sounds irresponsible? This is not the case. Time and energy are also resources, but the new creation circle and computer project management method just like this will do such resource allocation.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547710462285100?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _聽來很不負責任嗎？其實不是這樣。時間跟精力也是資源，只是新創圈跟電..._

@null 15:35:51

It’s a bit far-reaching. In short, don’t talk about such a complicated thing: if you think too much, you should only listen to the words of the cofacts users and their data (quantitative quality should not be too partial), the market reaction is everything, other It’s all noise.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547710549285300?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _有點扯遠了，總之不要講這麼複雜的話就是：想太多了，你只該聽cofacts使用..._

@null 15:44:07

Scared me

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711046285800|source>: _嚇我一跳 _

@null 15:49:45

Don’t forget that when Huang Shixiu made a public speech, he also consolidated his group’s position and beliefs.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711385285900|source>: _不要忘記黃士修公開發言時，還要鞏固自己團體的立場、信仰_

@null 15:51:10

Ah, right, and forgot to return to the second point of the child’s point. It may take too long to eat. 免>Disclaimer because this is also a very explicit case by case. So before you "experience" or "maybe", don't want to Think, worry, don't worry, useless (will not protect you) and meaningless (no need for protection / will not go that step). Anyway, everyone has been mixing for so long, the first thing before the real product has to make big changes is to find a legal professional.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711467286000?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _啊對了又忘記回剛剛那個子點的第二點了可能太久沒吃飯囧 >免責聲明因�..._

@null 15:51:35

The profession has a specialization, do not fish through the boundaries, in order to separate the divisions to maximize the social change

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711494286200?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _術業有專攻，不要撈過界，才能各自分工讓改變社會的leverage最大化_

@null 15:51:38

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@null 15:52:52

I must take into account the self-interested position of Huang Shixiu’s speech.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711570287600|source>: _要把黃士修發言的利己立場考慮進去 +1_

@null 15:53:48

I feel that there are quite a few people who think that "g0v people are very naive" and feel that innocence is stupid, they don't understand reality, they are smarter and more grounded.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711627288600|source>: _覺得好像有蠻多人覺得「g0v 的人很天真」，覺得天真就是笨、不了解現實，..._

@null 15:54:43

I personally feel that 1. A person can have a lot of facets. 2. "Innocent" can be a strategy decided by choice.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711683290100|source>: _我自己是覺得 1. 一個人可以有很多面向 2. 「天真」可以是經過選擇所決定��..._

@null 15:55:50

I object, this statement is too restrictive. It is better to say that "people who hold different values and behaviors with their own tribes are naive, do not understand reality, are very ____, and will actively speak to reinforce this impression". It is true XD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547711749291200|source>: _我反對，這個statement太限縮了不如說"與自己部族持有不同價值觀與行為的�..._

@null 16:09:49

Good thanks for the response! The development of Cofacts does not stop, so the recent direction is also very clear, that is, to make the editor decompression as much as possible (including letting the message come in less, let the LINE user provide more information), and improve the UX of the new editor to send the response, etc. . Thanks Jerry for your concern! The idea mentioned above, although it was from Shi Xiu’s speech, actually seemed to be introspective. Our current direction (care editor) should be the goal that we want to achieve (to promote the link between message and response, to allow different opinions to be communicated faster; Internet rumors and rumors, just one of them) without conflict, so still Will continue to move forward. The open platform mentioned by Shi Xiu is easier to use by people with more resources. It is more like a problem that can be considered for me. It would be great if I could come up with a solution at the end, but If not, it is not necessary to stop the entire project, because the other open features of cofacts actually help those with less resources to use, for example, to collect all the opinions in the same place, to reuse the old responses, and chatbot Automatically handle repetitive questions and so on. Without cofacts, "less resources" can only give up; with cofacts, "less resources" have a chance to spread their opinions differently than before.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547712588292600?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _好的感謝回應！ Cofacts 的開發確實沒有因此停擺，最近的方向也很明確，就..._

@null 16:10:12

(Just can't guarantee that it is more effective than "a party with more resources")

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547712611292900?thread_ts=1547620717.269600&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _（只是無法保證比「資源較多的一方」有效而已）_

@null 16:10:35

@a29988122 Your full name proposition is difficult to set up.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547712634293600|source>: _<@U78GAJAHJ> 你這個全稱命題很難成立啦 :laughing:_

@null 16:24:31

@chihao But to be honest, instead of narrowing down the target, the communication meaning of the proposition may be smaller. I prefer to enlarge the scale to see if the people involved in the discussion will feel anything different. "There will be more sparks (the guess is that after all, I am not your locust XD) > g0v people are very naive... >Respond....1. A person can have a lot of faces 2. "Innocent" It can be that the strategy decided by the choice is more like a defense (description) method when facing the foreign (not just the repair). However, if the target is enlarged, it will become like this, although the proposition will become inaccurate. It's hard to set up as you said > Holding different values and behaviors with your own tribes > Diss the meaning of this proposition, or the meaning of implicit that I personally want to express becomes: Anyway, under the circumstance of physics, human cognition F=MA, just accept him, it is enough, anyway, there is no need to do value judgment or classification of the enemy, accept him and use this behavior to see what you want to be true (or what Nothing )

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547713469300200|source>: _<@U03CX883V> 可是說真的，與其把指涉對象縮小，那個命題承擔的溝通意義可能也��..._

@null 16:29:06

But then again, the skeptics refer to innocence, at least much better than being conspiracy theorists to refer to the CIA.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547713745306700|source>: _不過話說回來，被懷疑論者指涉為天真，至少比被陰謀論者指涉為 CIA 效命��..._

@null 16:30:04

*** I would like to take the opportunity to expand the discussion scale. It is also because I found that the first time I mixed g0v last year, I found that the strips are very "well-known" in the minds of people who have just talked about it here, but if it is only true According to the explanations and criticisms, it is easy to let yourself fall into a passive defense situation and will not reach effective communication. He wants Ma to agree on a few points, and he does not agree with each other. Then you talk to each other for no time. . So I just want to come out and just say a few words, see if the head of the cofacts has been washed half, can you not be so confused, at least comfort the people who are struggling. Even if you don't want to communicate with the social strips, at least you can find ways to set him up/understand his values when you communicate, and then there are ways to make countermeasures other than communication, which will be greater than focusing on communication itself.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547713802307600|source>: _*** 會想要趁機把討論尺度拉大，也是因為我去年第一次混g0v的時候發現土條..._

@null 16:33:30

His core argument is that "cofacts are specific political parties," so they can't trust. Other neutrality, abuse is just packaging. If he decides that cofacts are behind the scenes from the beginning, there is no room for excuses, then no matter what you do. (Resolving abuse issues / finding responsible editor / joining the nuclear terminal / only supporting Ma Ying-jeou) will not affect him, it is better not to ignore him.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547714009310500|source>: _他的核心論點其實是「cofacts 是特定政黨打手」，所以不能信任，其它什麼��..._

@null 16:34:53

@mrorz Which one is CIA KGB? 😆

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547714092311400|source>: _<@U039CG5S7> 那 CIA KGB 選一個？:laughing:_

@null 16:36:50

(No one wants to know the facts) KGB is actually the USSR period

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547714209312400|source>: _(沒有人想知道的事實)KGB其實是USSR時期的_

@null 16:37:01

Now mainly called FSB XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547714221312700|source>: _現在主要可以叫FSB XD_

@null 16:40:57

C1A KG8 F5B Yeah!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547714456313100|source>: _C1A KG8 F5B 耶！_

@null 17:13:17

CMYK?

@null 19:20:11

Linux's natural person credentials and health insurance card support are a bit of a crash. Is there a place to collect patches?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547724010315900|source>: _Linux 的自然人憑證跟健保卡支援有點讓人崩潰，有地方收 patch 嗎？_

@null 19:20:26

Although it seems to be done by outsourcing vendors

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547724025316200|source>: _雖然看起來是外包廠商做的_

@null 21:08:35

His core argument is that "cofacts are specific political parties, so they can't trust." What other neutrality, abuse is just packaging. If he decides that cofacts are behind the scenes from the beginning, there is no room for excuses, then no matter what you do. (Resolving abuse issues / finding responsible editor / joining the nuclear terminal / only supporting Ma Ying-jeou) will not affect him, it is better not to ignore him.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547714009310500|source>: _他的核心論點其實是「cofacts 是特定政黨打手，所以不能信任」，其它什麼��..._

@null 2019-01-18 09:20:56

I raised my hands and feet

@null 21:32:40

@林博仁(Buo-ren, Lin) There is a part of the natural person certificate here https://github.com/orsonwang/Taiwan_CDC_RI, is the patch official driver? ( HiSecure ? )

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547731958318500|source>: _@林博仁(Buo-ren, Lin) 自然人憑證這邊有一部分實做 <https://github.com/orsonwang/Taiwan..._>

@null 2019-01-17 22:44:21

https://eservice.nhi.gov.tw/Personal1/System/Eventesting.htm Found here

@null 2019-01-17 22:47:32

"After communicate with management authority, It is not possible to release PIN verify function as password is protected by SHA256" Password SHA256 hash save and password verification program can not release the relationship 0w0?

@null 2019-01-17 23:00:57

Written for @au, but Chunghwa Telecom refused, hope that the future specifications will be more open https://talk.pdis.nat.gov.tw/t/topic/4787

@null 22:44:21

https://eservice.nhi.gov.tw/Personal1/System/Eventesting.htm Found here

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547736259319300?thread_ts=1547731958.318500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _<https://eservice.nhi.gov.tw/Personal1/System/Eventesting.htm> 這邊找到的_

@null 22:47:32

"After communicate with management authority, It is not possible to release PIN verify function as password is protected by SHA256" Password SHA256 hash save and password verification program can not release the relationship 0w0?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547736448319700?thread_ts=1547731958.318500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _"After communicate with management authority, It is not possible to release PIN verify function as p..._

@null 23:00:57

Written for @au, but Chunghwa Telecom refused, hope that the future specifications will be more open https://talk.pdis.nat.gov.tw/t/topic/4787

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547737254319900?thread_ts=1547731958.318500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _對 <@U02L29KSW> 爭取過, 但中華電信拒絕, 希望以後的規格會更開放一點 <https://talk.pdis>...._

@null 23:11:33

Since the first day was intuitively "to check the facts and check the facts," then there must be a method of checking the facts.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547737890320200|source>: _既然第一天就直覺要「對事實查核做事實查核」，那也要有個做事實查核的�..._

@null 2019-01-18 14:17:52

In fact, it is feasible XD. For example, US conservatives also feel that the US's fact checking organizations (Snopes, Politifacts, etc.) are too Liberal, so there is also a call for fact-checking the fact checkers. One way is to open a column, labeled "Deeply Distorted", "Half Baked", "Fully fake", etc. for the fact-checking report: https://www.newsbusters.org/fact-checkers Another way is , statistics on the performance of each fact checker, such as how many things claimed on the website are factual, how many are actually opinion; whether to use the media to verify (this will cause circular verification problems) and so on: https://www.realclearpolitics.com /fact_check_review/ However, many fact checkers in the US are actually made directly by the news media, so these fact-checker checkers (?) will naturally require fact-checkers with higher standards (news).

@null 23:11:55

#坑中坑(?)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547737914320300|source>: _#坑中之坑 (?)_

@null 00:48:36

@null 00:49:54

Ken display

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547743792321700|source>: _Ken 表示_

@null 09:20:56

I raised my hands and feet

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547774455322400?thread_ts=1547714009.310500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我舉雙手雙腳贊成_

@null 10:26:27

hello

@null 14:17:52

In fact, it is feasible XD. For example, US conservatives also feel that the US's fact checking organizations (Snopes, Politifacts, etc.) are too Liberal, so there is also a call for fact-checking the fact checkers. One way is to open a column, labeled "Deeply Distorted", "Half Baked", "Fully fake", etc. for the fact-checking report: https://www.newsbusters.org/fact-checkers Another way is , statistics on the performance of each fact checker, such as how many things claimed on the website are factual, how many are actually opinion; whether to use the media to verify (this will cause circular verification problems) and so on: https://www.realclearpolitics.com /fact_check_review/ However, many fact checkers in the US are actually made directly by the news media, so these fact-checker checkers (?) will naturally require fact-checkers with higher standards (news).

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547792271323800?thread_ts=1547737890.320200&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _事實上是可行的 XD 例如說，美國 conservatives 也覺得美國的 fact checking organiza..._

@null 16:48:02

In early November, I went to Toronto with au and PDIS to participate in their workshops. They introduced the topics of the PO conference to clarify the methodology and the process of vTaiwan. I sketched it into a blog record. If you are interested, you can go to see: Taiwan Can Help (on) - How can the open government do the issue to clarify the focus? <Https://medium.com/@aelcenganda/pdis-toronto-workshop-6cf850b4a2fd> Taiwan Can Help (below) - Open a vTaiwan Multi-stakeholder Consultation Meeting in Toronto https://medium.com/@aelcenganda/vtaiwan- Workshop-toronto-e6da9945b0a

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1547887675327500|source>: _11 月初的時候跟 au 和 PDIS 去了多倫多參與他們辦的工作坊，他們介紹了 PO ��..._

lizbarry 2019-01-20 01:43:30

Thank you!!!!!!!

🎉 3

@null 21:09:57

ˊ

lizbarry 01:43:30

Thank you!!!!!!!

@null 16:37:44

<Https://discuss.grants.g0v.tw/t/topic/931> The public grant proposal was officially closed last week, but public questioning is still ongoing! There are a total of 49 proposals in this award, covering all fields. You are welcome to use your field expertise, give opinions and questions on the proposal, and maybe find the team you are interested in joining! Maybe they are missing your role! In the open question of the grant, find a way to participate in the grant and work together to make the society better!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548059860334900|source>: _<https://discuss.grants.g0v.tw/t/topic/931> 獎助金公開提案於上週正式結束，但是公開..._

@null 23:41:31

Postcards are printed and you can start picking up tomorrow, at OCF

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548085290336400?thread_ts=1547480623.256800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _明信片印好惹明天就可以開始拿囉，在 OCF_

@null 23:42:34

@mrorz @ ggm @ chihao @ rice

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548085352337300?thread_ts=1547480623.256800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _<@U039CG5S7> <@U038JQFE9> <@U03CX883V> @田 _

@null 00:45:12

Do you dare to try to see the new Taiwanese input?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/CDF98K1EJ/p1548089110272900|source>: _敢有人有興趣試看覓新的台語輸入發？_

Someone (across chat bridge) 00:45:43

File from anyong (general-tw@g0vtw)

Screenshot 20190121-203524 1

@null 10:11:57

hello everyone!

@null 14:03:27

🤔 Everyone wants to turn the internet into intranet🤦‍♂️ https://gizmodo.com/how-long-before-facebooks-new-petition-feature-is-compl-1831922324

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548137003342500|source>: _:thinking_face: 大家都想把internet變成intranet:man-facepalming: <https://gizmodo.com/how-long-..._>

Gizmodo

How Long Before Facebook's New Petition Feature is Complicit in Genocide?

Facebook, a tech company that the United Nations said has been literally complicit in genocide, has a new feature that’s being rolled out this week. And there’s a very good chance that it’s going to be abused, no matter what assurances the company provides.

@null 2019-01-22 14:05:32

More detailed features are introduced at TC: https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/20/facebook-community-actions/

@null 2019-01-22 15:41:23

The entire reappearance of the referendum in November last year

@null 14:05:32

More detailed features are introduced at TC: https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/20/facebook-community-actions/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548137131343200?thread_ts=1548137003.342500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _比較詳細的功能介紹在TC: <https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/20/facebook-community-actions/_>

TechCrunch

Facebook launches petition feature, its next battlefield

Gather a mob and Facebook will now let you make political demands. Tomorrow Facebook will encounter a slew of fresh complexities with the launch of Community Actions, its News Feed petition feature. Community Actions could unite neighbors to request change from their local and national elected offi…

@null 15:33:39

<Https://xrebellion.org/> #环保

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548142417343700|source>: _<https://xrebellion.org/> #環保_

@null 15:41:23

The entire reappearance of the referendum in November last year

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548142883343900?thread_ts=1548137003.342500&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _整個重現去年11月公投的慘況_

@null 05:21:39

hello,, need to talk \

@null 2019-01-23 06:49:53

Yes, please.

@null 06:49:53

Yes, please.

@null 12:31:17

<Http://env.g0v.tw/air/> It seems that there is no information?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548217876344900|source>: _<http://env.g0v.tw/air/> 好像沒資料了？_

@null 12:31:54

It seems that it is because of http://g0v-data-mirror.gugod.org/epa/aqx.csv here 404

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548217912345400|source>: _好像是因為 <http://g0v-data-mirror.gugod.org/epa/aqx.csv> 這邊回傳 404_

@null 14:57:58

If there is someone in the Pig New Year’s card but can’t come to OCF during business hours, I have provided the mailing method XD yesterday, donated to the Dasong Donation Page, and donated the number of postcards you need (up to five). ) will be sent directly to you ~ https://www.facebook.com/groups/g0v.general/permalink/2000614470014949/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548226677347300|source>: _如果豬豬賀年卡有人想要但是沒辦法在上班時間來 OCF 領的話，昨天提供了�..._

@null 17:47:00

https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548226677347300

@null 18:11:41

I am a fake news cleaner, and I have something to ask if I can help. Let's make a LINE rumor page to give participants a trial transfer message to LINE accounts such as Cofacts, myGoPen, rum toast, etc. There is a function to write the participants to click on the text to select all, but the last test result It seems that Apple and Samsung are not working properly, but also need to manually select, want to ask if anyone knows the iOS solution, or can help try other different devices (such as Oppo and other popular machines) https://codepen.io/ Junsuwhy/pen/OrBery

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548238298352900|source>: _我是假新聞清潔劑的書懷，有事想問有沒有大大能協助~。我們做一個仿 LINE..._

@null 2019-01-23 18:27:40

Https://stackoverflow.com/a/6302507 Some people here say that iOS doesn't work when input is readonly.

@null 2019-01-23 18:29:26

Some people say that iOS handles the issue of event order, and then setTimeout might work: https://stackoverflow.com/a/7436574

@null 2019-01-23 18:36:27

Well, I just tried setSelectionRange and the result is that my Sony won’t move. Otherwise, it is necessary to detect different machines to perform different actions.

@null 2019-01-23 18:43:28

I think your focus + select + setSelectionRange can be kept

@null 2019-01-23 18:43:54

But change it to setTimeout

@null 2019-01-23 20:47:40

Try it later!

@null 18:27:40

Https://stackoverflow.com/a/6302507 Some people here say that iOS doesn't work when input is readonly.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548239259353100?thread_ts=1548238298.352900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _<https://stackoverflow.com/a/6302507> 這裏有人說 iOS 在 input 是 readonly 的狀況下不 work_

@null 18:29:26

Some people say that iOS handles the issue of event order, and then setTimeout might work: https://stackoverflow.com/a/7436574

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548239365353500?thread_ts=1548238298.352900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _有人說是 iOS 處理 event 順序的問題，然後 setTimeout 可能會 work： <https://stackove>..._

@null 18:36:27

Well, I just tried setSelectionRange and the result is that my Sony won’t move. Otherwise, it is necessary to detect different machines to perform different actions.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548239786353800?thread_ts=1548238298.352900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _嗯，我剛有試 setSelectionRange ，結果換我的 Sony 不會動了。不然就是要偵測��..._

@null 18:43:28

I think your focus + select + setSelectionRange can be kept

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548240208354000?thread_ts=1548238298.352900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我覺得你的 focus + select + setSelectionRange 可以保留_

@null 18:43:54

But change it to setTimeout

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548240232354200?thread_ts=1548238298.352900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _但是改到 setTimeout 裡做_

@null 19:24:56

I saw a friend mentioned in the FB message and found that there is such a thing, for your reference.... It seems that you can understand how to fight in the election..... https://www.youtube.com/ Watch?v=ejHeIAFmKLw&list=PL893843071B82CED7&index=2

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548242694355500|source>: _看到朋友在FB留言提到才發現有這種東西，給大家參考....看一看似乎可以看�..._

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@null 20:47:40

Try it later!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548247659355700?thread_ts=1548238298.352900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _晚一點來試試~_

@null 00:04:58

Hackfoldr doesn't open Ethercalc a bit slow>"<

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548259497357300|source>: _Hackfoldr 打不太開 Ethercalc 有點慢 >"<_

@null 2019-01-24 00:47:02

HackMD book mode?

@null 00:47:02

HackMD book mode?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548262021357700?thread_ts=1548259497.357300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _HackMD book mode 呢？_

@null 06:20:31

Hi all, just wanted to check, is Bing (Microsoft's search engine) also inaccessible to you all in China?

@null 07:47:23

Thanks for the return. Fix this.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548287241358600?thread_ts=1548217912.345400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _感謝回報。修正這一點了。_

@null 09:35:44

Would you like to ask if anyone knows the reporter who runs the French line? Whether it is in Taiwan or France. Because vTaiwan is concerned about the yellow vest movement, and is helping to translate independent articles and comments, I think these are also the resources that the press conference wants and will want to help bring the line. Yesterday I talked to Tasha who I know. If you have other friends who know you, please help us. Tag observer @fiorella

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548293740362000|source>: _想問一下有沒有人認識在跑法國線的記者呢？不管是在台灣或法國的。因為..._

@null 2019-01-24 09:43:31

Add more to our vTaiwan discussion about the yellow vest movement yesterday ``` French yellow vest and the challenge of democracy - https://g0v.hackmd.io/i1OS7PZgTgmbQxdOAsnysQ?edit Correction - posted to the French-speaking community (ex translation and translation , French-related community) - Copywriting - Description - Principles for translation of proper nouns - hackfoldr https://g0v.hackmd.io/c/SJe54lh2M4/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.storm.mg%2Farticle% 2F824145 Book Mode - A friend who can speak French in a pit - a reporter who specializes in foreign lines - after finishing the post, send the website to a reporter who has already written relevant in-depth reports - Fio recommends French independent media: Médiapart, AOC, La vie des idées ( Also available in English), Next INpact (on digital technology, e-government, transparency and networking), La Quadrature du Net (on digital technology and networking, support for free [software] culture), Mr Propagande, Usbek & Rica - reliable Mass media: Le Monde, France Culture, Huffingtonpost, (Libération) - There are many civil society organizations that want to analyze the information for everyone to see, or open a debate platform for themselves - the question of the French national debate: - The government is able to discuss There are many restrictions on the issue - the government has not legally organized the national debate ``` https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20190123-vTaiwan--0d62B1c6p6G Welcome everyone to come and take a look at vTaiwan (by the way, advertising XD

@null 09:43:31

Add more to our vTaiwan discussion about the yellow vest movement yesterday ``` French yellow vest and the challenge of democracy - https://g0v.hackmd.io/i1OS7PZgTgmbQxdOAsnysQ?edit Correction - posted to the French-speaking community (ex translation and translation , French-related community) - Copywriting - Description - Principles for translation of proper nouns - hackfoldr https://g0v.hackmd.io/c/SJe54lh2M4/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.storm.mg%2Farticle% 2F824145 Book Mode - A friend who can speak French in a pit - a reporter who specializes in foreign lines - after finishing the post, send the website to a reporter who has already written relevant in-depth reports - Fio recommends French independent media: Médiapart, AOC, La vie des idées ( Also available in English), Next INpact (on digital technology, e-government, transparency and networking), La Quadrature du Net (on digital technology and networking, support for free [software] culture), Mr Propagande, Usbek & Rica - reliable Mass media: Le Monde, France Culture, Huffingtonpost, (Libération) - There are many civil society organizations that want to analyze the information for everyone to see, or open a debate platform for themselves - the question of the French national debate: - The government is able to discuss There are many restrictions on the issue - the government has not legally organized the national debate ``` https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20190123-vTaiwan--0d62B1c6p6G Welcome everyone to come and take a look at vTaiwan (by the way, advertising XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548294207362300?thread_ts=1548293740.362000&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _多補充一下昨天我們 vTaiwan 關於黃背心運動的討論 ``` 法國黃背心與民主的�..._

patcon 12:28:12

Hey <!here>, this is an unofficial ask, but would anyone like help applying to be a Code for Canada fellow for a year? Working visas are pretty easy to get due to a recent deal 😉

> Q: Can non-citizens apply for the fellowship?
> Applicants who are not Canadian citizens or permanent residents are welcome to apply if they are legally eligible to work in Canada for the duration of the fellowship.

https://codefor.ca/fellowship/apply-2019/

> The two nations updated a reciprocal agreement made in April 2010 on then issuance of working holiday visas

https://twitter.com/taiwan_inottawa/status/1083564566448128000?s=19

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\Canada/

@null 13:50:50

Very exciting. Scuttlebutt done well could be a big hit imo.

thebestsophist 21:00:45

Is anyone planning to go to the CfA summit or OGP summit? they’re at the same time this year 😭

fiorella 2019-01-26 00:48:48

@thebestsophist Is it a mere coincidence ?

@null 2019-01-26 00:59:09

yeah…i think they announced their dates at roughly the same time and didn’t notice 😭

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@null 23:23:21

Hi @fiorella
I just found a journalist, who stays in Paris and work for 中央社, her name is 曾依璇.
I didn’t have her contact yet, but my friend will try to contact her.

Here is one of her articles
https://www.cna.com.tw/news/aopl/201901220014.aspx
And more of her reports
https://www.cna.com.tw/search/hysearchws.aspx?q=曾依璇

I hope you can get her contact soon.

@null 23:30:07

Would you like to ask someone who used TICK for influxdata? A bit curious about whether telegraf's plugin can only be written with go: thinking_face:

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548343803371000|source>: _想問一下有人用過 influxdata 的 TICK 嗎? 有點好奇 telegraf 的 plugin 是不是只能��..._

@null 23:31:58

I googled more, it looks like she’s the only one Taiwanese journalist of 中央社 in France.

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krzysztof.madejski 01:02:50

Hi ppl, how are you? I just saw that this Slack is on free limited tier. Do you know that nonprofits are eligible for https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits ? CC @aiya

Slack Help Center

Slack for Nonprofits

The Slack for Nonprofits program offers eligible organizations a free or discounted upgrade of one workspace to a paid plan. Here are the details: Standard Plan: We offer workspaces with 250 or f...

@null 2019-01-25 01:09:17

Yes we did ask Slack team, but they just said `NO` 😅

@null 2019-01-25 05:45:26

I know it sucks to deal with, but I'm hopeful that a community like this that is so capable of creating workarounds is facing the challenge that many smaller online communities are struggling with alone -- lack of chat history, lock-in of Slack platform, etc... I feel optimistic that things ppl here might create could help others stuck with same troubles :) h/t @ronnywang

@null 2019-01-25 10:51:34

well for the chat history @ronnywang has already done slack archiving tool: https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw/

Cofacts uses this a lot 😄

@null 2019-01-25 11:43:38

@ronnywang ++ @mrorz ++!

@null 2019-01-25 12:16:48

and i found that #cofacts is the second largest public channel in terms of message count, with #general being the first 😛

I think the bridged translation channels (general-*) will catch up in the near future though

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@null 01:09:17

Yes we did ask Slack team, but they just said `NO` 😅

@null 05:28:45

Deadline is Feb 8th!

@null 05:41:40

More details: Positions in Canadian government available for UX, developers, and project managers! One year at $75,000 CAD

@null 05:45:26

I know it sucks to deal with, but I'm hopeful that a community like this that is so capable of creating workarounds is facing the challenge that many smaller online communities are struggling with alone -- lack of chat history, lock-in of Slack platform, etc... I feel optimistic that things ppl here might create could help others stuck with same troubles :) h/t @ronnywang

@null 10:51:34

well for the chat history @ronnywang has already done slack archiving tool: https://g0v-slack-archive.g0v.ronny.tw/

Cofacts uses this a lot 😄

@null 11:43:38

@ronnywang ++ @mrorz ++!

@null 12:16:48

and i found that #cofacts is the second largest public channel in terms of message count, with #general being the first 😛

I think the bridged translation channels (general-*) will catch up in the near future though

@null 15:19:06

https://talk.pdis.nat.gov.tw/t/gnu-linux/6768

@null 15:46:16

hello

@null 15:59:32

mrorz

@null 20:04:49

Have you seen code for japan to mention code for all exchange program, is this with vTaiwan community exchange or PDIS? QQ @Peace @ky

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548417887379300?thread_ts=1548417887.379300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _有看到 code for japan 要提 code for all exchange program，這個是跟 vTaiwan 社群 exchange..._

@null 2019-01-25 20:05:46

https://hackmd.io/JpmrUMJXQI-EZvNqxym9xw?fbclid=IwAR3OR3U72_QGJbPoiPcGUgRpUEhzCy1SG3Kv7OB0Y-SI9kLVLQCHBh2jjzE

@null 2019-01-25 20:12:07

With vTaiwan, PDIS assistance. Because this exchange program is for training and workshops, but the community does not have the ability and experience to organize workshops. Before PDIS went to Toronto to do the vTaiwan workshop, PDIS assisted in Komatsu's discussion record: https:// g0v.hackpad.tw/20181121-vTaiwan-7TRqPFBNokB https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181212-vTaiwan--ICWJfkrm2EN

@null 2019-01-25 20:18:22

Sorry for my negligence. I almost forgot that the plan was based on the cfa architecture, but the current plan is that the PDIS and vTaiwan communities will be together and the discussion will be on the open-legislation channel of c4j slack. get on

@null 2019-01-25 20:40:14

By the way, the composition of Japan is c4j (http://www.code4japan.org/) + Pinka (https://pnika.jp/) + friends of the Cabinet Office Information Room

@null 20:05:46

https://hackmd.io/JpmrUMJXQI-EZvNqxym9xw?fbclid=IwAR3OR3U72_QGJbPoiPcGUgRpUEhzCy1SG3Kv7OB0Y-SI9kLVLQCHBh2jjzE

@null 20:12:07

With vTaiwan, PDIS assistance. Because this exchange program is for training and workshops, but the community does not have the ability and experience to organize workshops. Before PDIS went to Toronto to do the vTaiwan workshop, PDIS assisted in Komatsu's discussion record: https:// g0v.hackpad.tw/20181121-vTaiwan-7TRqPFBNokB https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181212-vTaiwan--ICWJfkrm2EN

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548418326381400?thread_ts=1548417887.379300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _跟 vTaiwan ，PDIS 協助。因為這個交換計畫是要做培訓和工作坊，但社群沒有��..._

@null 20:18:22

Sorry for my negligence. I almost forgot that the plan was based on the cfa architecture, but the current plan is that the PDIS and vTaiwan communities will be together and the discussion will be on the open-legislation channel of c4j slack. get on

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548418701382800?thread_ts=1548417887.379300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _抱歉是我的疏忽，想說要辦工作坊就差點忘了這計畫本質是基於 cfa 架構下��..._

@null 20:40:08

French f0rk becomes Code for France : https://codefor.fr/ !!!!! 🙌 They mentioned g0v: https://codefor.fr/pages/faq community chatroom: https://chat.codefor. Fr/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548420008386000|source>: _法國f0rk變成Code for France : <https://codefor.fr/> !!!!! :raised_hands: 他們提到g0v: <https://codefor.f>..._

@null 20:40:14

By the way, the composition of Japan is c4j (http://www.code4japan.org/) + Pinka (https://pnika.jp/) + friends of the Cabinet Office Information Room

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548420013386200?thread_ts=1548417887.379300&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _順帶一提日本那邊的組成是c4j(<http://www.code4japan.org/>) + Pinka (<https://pnika.jp/>) +內..._

fiorella 00:48:48

@thebestsophist Is it a mere coincidence ?

@null 00:59:09

yeah…i think they announced their dates at roughly the same time and didn’t notice 😭

@null 12:36:09

大家好.

My name is Hidehito Aoki. I’m leader of Code for Nerima. (Code for Nerima is one of the Code for Japan Bligades.)

Thank you for your using my application “UD Talk” in g0v summit.
Anyway, I released new translating application.

Name is “Smilingual”. Smile + Lingual = Smilingual.

You can use this application in a short time conversation. You can use easier than UD Talk. And if you set same languages “left” and “right”. You can use this app in deaf and hard of hearing communication.

UD Talk can create real time caption and documents. In your holding event, you can use UD Talk in the stage, and you can use Smilingual in a reception and support.

This is a free application. There is an only iOS version but I will develop Android version.

Please use it!

https://itunes.apple.com/app/smilingual/id1449029353

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‎Smilingual

‎Smilingual is translation application which everyone can use easily. "Smile + Lingual = Smilingual" After you select your language, just you tap and speak to this application. You can share your favorite phrases. Smilingual has over 60 languages now from iOS supported languages. We have a plan a…

@null 2019-01-26 13:07:12

This is a user’s manual.
https://teachme.jp/27228/manuals/5336384

@null 2019-01-26 15:02:40

@shamrock1976 That logo is so cute ❤️

@null 2019-01-26 15:52:36

@chihao Thanks! I ordered design to my friend. He is a good designer and a expert of UX.

@null 13:07:12

This is a user’s manual.
https://teachme.jp/27228/manuals/5336384

@null 15:02:40

@shamrock1976 That logo is so cute ❤️

@null 15:52:36

@chihao Thanks! I ordered design to my friend. He is a good designer and a expert of UX.

@null 20:09:38

Tech Soup Asia Pacific is hiring - Program Manager https://www.techsoupasiapacific.org/were-hiring-project-manager-techsoup-asia-pacific/. Application opens until *23rd of February 2019*. Please share. 🙂

@null 22:26:02

Later, try setTimeout will still make the option of "copy/cut/share" when some devices are used. At present, it seems that there is a problem with samsung. We want to say that we give up first, and use LINE@ official account to provide sample text. . Thank you @mrorz

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548599159403500?thread_ts=1548238298.352900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _後來試 setTimeout 還是會使一些裝置用的時候無法出現「複製/剪下/分享」那��..._

@null 17:20:12

Hello ~~ In April this year, OCF staff will participate in the Spanish IFF conference as a speaker, partner, volunteer, etc., and different community friends in Taiwan have also planned to participate, so come again, is there anyone who wants to move forward together? The hometown of Spanish seafood rice stew (haha always think this is the key point), participate in the popular online free carnival?? Please click here for more information! https://www.facebook.com/www.ocf. Tw/photos/a.1535385736737357/2310891035853486/?type=3&theater

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548667206409500|source>: _Hello ~~今年四月，OCF工作人員會以講者、夥伴、志工等身分參與西班牙IFF大��..._

@null 19:09:44

Hackfoldr seems to be out of order...can't open, does anyone know why?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548673780410200|source>: _Hackfoldr 好像出了狀況…無法打開，有人知道原因嗎～_

@null 19:14:10

Ethercalc can't connect

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548674048410400|source>: _ethercalc無法連接_

@null 19:31:43

@au Trouble to help see ethercalc 啰

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548675101410900|source>: _<@U02L29KSW> 麻煩幫忙看看 ethercalc 囉_

@null 22:19:20

@au Does the recording of https://g0v.hackpad.tw/CUFP-FLOLAC14-E7IBt43lBF9 have other backups? Soundcloud is gone, the second half is a bit fragmented 😹

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548771555415900|source>: _<@U02L29KSW> 請問 <https://g0v.hackpad.tw/CUFP-FLOLAC14-E7IBt43lBF9> 的錄音檔還有其他備份嗎? soun..._

@null 2019-01-29 22:48:48

Passed the version of your own backup https://soundcloud.com/caasu/cufp-flolac14-backup

@null 22:48:48

Passed the version of your own backup https://soundcloud.com/caasu/cufp-flolac14-backup

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548773327416100?thread_ts=1548771555.415900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _傳了自己備份的版本 <https://soundcloud.com/caasu/cufp-flolac14-backup_>

@null 00:32:32

Hackfoldr is back!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548779551416600|source>: _hackfoldr恢复啦！_

@null 05:59:41

Hello everyone, I am a friend of @itsmisscs Evan

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548799178418400|source>: _大家好，我是<@U69CAJ42U> 的朋友Evan_

@null 06:00:42

I am going to move to Taipei next week, a graduate exchange program at Shanghai Normal University.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548799242419500|source>: _我下周要搬到臺北，上師大的一個研究生交換項目_

@null 06:14:43

Please contact me if you are looking for a roommate! I can rent it to July 1st.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548800081422300|source>: _請在找室友的人儘管聯係我哈！我可以短租到7月1號_

itsmisscs 07:27:27

Welcome, @evanstaff ! He’s a dear friend of mine that helped with #facilitation-fest-nyc in June. He’s looking forward to attending a g0v hackathon. He’s a great filler, calling all pushers. 🕳️

@null 10:35:14

I received an email saying that google oauth had to unplug the support section of google+ in March and warned me that the current hackpad login is useful to google oauth.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548815713426100|source>: _收到 email 說 google oauth 三月要拔掉 google+ 的支援部份，並警告我目前 hackpad �..._

@null 10:35:36

Just looked at the hackpad code, I should not need to change the hackpad program XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548815734426600|source>: _剛看了一下 hackpad 程式碼，我應該不需要改 hackpad 程式吧 XD_

@null 13:22:36

@itsmisscs @Evan 史賀文 filler welcome!

@null 15:26:01

<Https://www.readr.tw/project/election-news> # This topic is made with @gugod people in news

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548833157428800|source>: _<https://www.readr.tw/project/election-news> # 這次用 <@U02G30WJT> people in news 的資料做成的專�..._

@null 15:49:39

Hi all, Tomorrow is my last day at OCF/g0v jothon, thank you for taking care of it for almost three years.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548834576430400|source>: _Hi all, 明天是我在 OCF/g0v jothon 工作的最後一天，謝謝大家過去快三年的照顧�..._

@null 16:10:07

Uh huh, I think this political base may be suitable for wiki colleges.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548835803432300?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _嗯⋯我覺得這個政基可能放維基學院可能比較適合_

@null 16:49:57

Hey~ Look at it later.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548838195433900?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _喔喔～晚點來看一下_

bess 17:17:46

@null 18:31:45

Thanksgiving Kathy~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548844303435400?thread_ts=1548771555.415900&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _感恩卡西~_

@null 21:11:33

When I saw Wikipedia, it seemed to be a much newer project.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548853890436700?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _看到了維基學院，看起來似乎是相較新很多的計畫？_

@null 21:19:09

I want to share this Line group, the content she shared is really very good~~ Line group called "Do you care about your elders today?" https://www.facebook.com/chihchihuang/posts/2550257284991234 can help us break through the same Warm layer, enter the elder group

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548854347438100|source>: _想分享一下這個 Line 群，她分享的內容真的非常的好～～ Line 群叫「你今天�..._

@null 21:55:48

I would like to build a structured discussion forum that is easy to modify and easy to debate.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548856545440300?thread_ts=1543988056.045400&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _我比較想建造出方便修改，方便辯論的結構化討論區_

@null 12:35:39

Is Google Nlp's sentiment analysis of a single article with only one number?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548909333442500?thread_ts=1548833157.428800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _Google nlp 的對單一篇文章的情緒分析結果是只有一個數字喔?_

@null 12:44:00

A whole score, then each segment also has its own score, and then there is intensity in addition to the score

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1548909838442700?thread_ts=1548833157.428800&cid=C02G2SXKX|source>: _整篇一個分數，然後各分段也有各自的分數，然後除了分數還有強度_

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