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Month: 2023-11

2023-11-01

Marvin Lee 18:32:33
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2023-11-02

Dong 14:44:27
請問這週六放輕松還有人會實體參加嗎？記得要報名歐～
我會統計到明天中午，然後訂位！

2023-11-03

patcon 00:18:42
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patcon 00:33:04
Hey, all! 👋🏻 I'm trying to make some invites to people who might have less exposure and pre-existing enthusiasm for g0v -- wondering whether others feel that an enthusiastic "Testimonials" section of the website could support bringing in new attendees and perspectives.
Would this be something I could stub out and start making some invites around?
stubbing out a candidate tracking spreadsheet here -- open to feedback: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EiwhmySVw0NB6bK_Dw_lSW7iW9UCj0Yujy0kLH8mZzM/edit#gid=0
also, this could be really helpful (or perhaps dovetail with) sponsorship efforts, which I'm also happy to do outreach for
any best channel I should bring this to?
patcon 00:33:04
Hey all, I'm trying to make some invites to people who might have less exposure and pre-existing enthusiasm for g0v -- wondering whether others feel that an enthusiastic "Testimonials" section of the website could support bringing in new attendees and perspectives.
Would this be something I could stub out and start making some invites around?
stubbing out a candidate tracking spreadsheet here -- open to feedback: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EiwhmySVw0NB6bK_Dw_lSW7iW9UCj0Yujy0kLH8mZzM/edit#gid=0
also, this could be really helpful (or perhaps dovetail with) sponsorship efforts, which I'm also happy to do outreach for
any best channel I should bring this to?
patcon 00:37:57
I'm going to be at a dinner tonight with some folks from RadicalxChange Foundation, in prep for an event tomorrow. I'd love to float the idea of sponsorship within their space, as I know there are big fans in there. Is there a place where sponsorship conversations are happening? cc @ipa
@chihao is the one coordinating the sponsorship process
But @patcon, I don't think it is ideal for you to bridge sponsorship opportunities for g0v Summit 2024 after you accused g0v.tw community coerced you during our discussion on whether g0v.london should advocate open source, which g0v Manifesto stated it quite well in texts that g0v lives open source. Not to mention that you culturally abused me, sexually exploited me, and indicated my Taiwanese culture has problems under the narratives of all those culture exploitation as "a gift to Taiwan".

Please leave some dignity for me and g0v.tw community on that remark.
Any inquiries or suggestions to sponsorship of g0v Summit 2024 can be directed to sponsor@summit.g0v.tw which currently is received by me, @chihao, @isabel.hou and @ipa
@aelcenganda I had tried to create opportunity for you to commit your specific grievances to writing (in a Victim Impact Statement), going as far as finding and offering to pay for a third-party mediator to support you in that articulation of the harm in such a statement. This mediator was a person of color who was familiar with us both, and had mediated many of such conflicts before. You declined to engage with any of this formal process, and blocked me as I attempted to arrange it.
I have tried to have compassion for how much you were struggling in London, but i would be untruthful if i claimed i have not been frustrated at your actions. I’m sorry that I couldn’t allow you to feel heard about the things you were struggling with -- I was dealing with my own challenges and not at my best. You continue to make repeated public insinuations about me in our shared spaces, which are at odds with the way that essentially all of our mutual relations in london understand our conflict. You’ve repeatedly moved conversation to places where ppl don’t understand your own behaviour and our history. If you continue to make vague references outside meaningful process, I will be forced to initiate the formal processes that you have failed to engage with in our shared communities. I genuinely believe these processes could contain and hold our conflict more effectively and compassionately than you or I have been able to do alone. Please do consider taking up that offer for mediation or something comparable. (to be clear, you can decline any mediator I put forward, but declining any process feels like the wrong path)
patcon 00:37:57
I'm going to be at a dinner tonight with some folks from RadicalxChange Foundation, in prep for an event tomorrow. I'd love to float the idea of sponsorship within their space, as I know there are big fans in there. Is there a place where sponsorship conversations are happening? cc @ipa

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@chihao is the one coordinating the sponsorship process
But @patcon, I don't think it is ideal for you to bridge sponsorship opportunities for g0v Summit 2024 after you accused g0v.tw community coerced you during our discussion on whether g0v.london should advocate open source, which g0v Manifesto stated it quite well in texts that g0v lives open source. Not to mention that you culturally abused me, sexually exploited me, and indicated my Taiwanese culture has problems under the narratives of all those culture exploitation as "a gift to Taiwan".

Please leave some dignity for me and g0v.tw community on that remark.
Any inquiries or suggestions to sponsorship of g0v Summit 2024 can be directed to sponsor@summit.g0v.tw which currently is received by me, @chihao, @isabel.hou and @ipa
@aelcenganda I had tried to create opportunity for you to commit your specific grievances to writing (in a Victim Impact Statement), going as far as finding and offering to pay for a third-party mediator to support you in that articulation of the harm in such a statement. This mediator was a person of color who was familiar with us both, and had mediated many of such conflicts before. You declined to engage with any of this formal process, and blocked me as I attempted to arrange it.
I have tried to have compassion for how much you were struggling in London, but i would be untruthful if i claimed i have not been frustrated at your actions. I’m sorry that I couldn’t allow you to feel heard about the things you were struggling with -- I was dealing with my own challenges and not at my best. You continue to make repeated public insinuations about me in our shared spaces, which are at odds with the way that essentially all of our mutual relations in london understand our conflict. You’ve repeatedly moved conversation to places where ppl don’t understand your own behaviour and our history. If you continue to make vague references outside meaningful process, I will be forced to initiate the formal processes that you have failed to engage with in our shared communities. I genuinely believe these processes could contain and hold our conflict more effectively and compassionately than you or I have been able to do alone. Please do consider taking up that offer for mediation or something comparable. (to be clear, you can decline any mediator I put forward, but declining any process feels like the wrong path)
Dong 13:12:52
放輕松訂好位囉！13:00 四位
Isabel Hou 22:14:32
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2023-11-04

Dong 13:07:28
來開個放輕松線上會議
會議記錄：共筆
線上連結：https://jitsi.ocf.tw/Summit2024TakeABreak
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pm5 17:24:25
謝謝大家今天的參與！
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pm5 17:24:25
謝謝大家今天的參與！

2023-11-07

Peter 14:55:19
【議程組開會】
大家好，最近議程組要開始協助拉人來投稿這一趴拉！不過今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@Pno233SAS8G5UfL5OvSRmA/ByA0V50M6
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp
Peter 14:55:19
【議程組開會】
大家好，最近議程組要開始協助拉人來投稿這一趴拉！不過今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@Pno233SAS8G5UfL5OvSRmA/ByA0V50M6
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp

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# 20231107會議 參與者：peter, yellowsoar, rayen, 以婕, 彭宬, Billion, Ddio 連結： 討論議題： - 宣傳 ## 宣傳管道 - [google

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2023-11-08

YC (Yichun) 22:31:42
有人回信問問題喔，誰可以去回答呢~

我剛才寄出第一波邀稿信了，如果大家有發現什麼問題，再麻煩回饋，謝謝！

yellowsoar 2023-11-08 22:58:59
media & program @summit.g0v.tw 信箱的發信人是 ?

另外 Summit 目前沒有講者旅費贊助。
對
YC (Yichun) 2023-11-08 23:44:20
邀稿信是用 media @summit.g0v.tell申請Mailchimp服務，以電子報形式發送的
以目前贊助的情形，確實也不太能提供旅費補助
@pm5 keynote的部分確認了嗎
還在約贊助組的會議
YC (Yichun) 22:31:42
有人回信問問題喔，誰可以去回答呢~

我剛才寄出第一波邀稿信了，如果大家有發現什麼問題，再麻煩回饋，謝謝！

yellowsoar 2023-11-08 22:58:59
media & program @summit.g0v.tw 信箱的發信人是 ?

另外 Summit 目前沒有講者旅費贊助。
對
YC (Yichun) 2023-11-08 23:44:20
邀稿信是用 media @summit.g0v.tell申請Mailchimp服務，以電子報形式發送的
以目前贊助的情形，確實也不太能提供旅費補助
@pm5 keynote的部分確認了嗎
還在約贊助組的會議
2

2023-11-10

2023-11-14

Peter 16:37:47
【議程組開會】
大家好，今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！今天會討論稿件數量與宣傳等相關事宜～本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@summit2024/BkSK5D1hh/%2Fj-T1sFN-SoWIPj2j3hsr0w
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp

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# 2024 summit 議程組 ## 專案說明 - [info 與近期事項](/3hejZMFQQmmZ9rs5qIN3jg) - [議程組日程與預排](<https://docs.google>

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我今天在高鐵移動中，會看情況加入 / 看共筆～
收到！
@sdfghj1001 宣傳組在檢查網站內文時發現有以下幾點需要修正，若議程組有相關文件要對外釋出，也可以一併參考～

1. Nerd Politics「v.s.」數位治理，應改為「vs」或「vs.」 2.關鍵字「SDG」，應改為「SDGs」
收到，這個部分我來開票
Peter 16:37:47
【議程組開會】
大家好，今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！今天會討論稿件數量與宣傳等相關事宜～本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@summit2024/BkSK5D1hh/%2Fj-T1sFN-SoWIPj2j3hsr0w
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp
我今天在高鐵移動中，會看情況加入 / 看共筆～
收到！
@sdfghj1001 宣傳組在檢查網站內文時發現有以下幾點需要修正，若議程組有相關文件要對外釋出，也可以一併參考～

1. Nerd Politics「v.s.」數位治理，應改為「vs」或「vs.」 2.關鍵字「SDG」，應改為「SDGs」
收到，這個部分我來開票

2023-11-19

2023-11-21

Skyler 01:33:38
大家晚安，我是宣傳組設計小組的Skyler，和 @ay870527 目前是紀念品專案的負責人。

g0v Summit 2024的紀念品意見仍在徵集中！沿用g0v Summit 2020 整體規劃，共分兩種紀念品，高價紀念品預算為250元，低價紀念品預算則為100元。目前有關紀念品的想法徵集，以前述預算編列的為主。如果有超出原先預算單價太多的紀念品品項還是歡迎提出，往後還是擁有討論能不能做的彈性空間。

歡迎大家將對紀念品的想法編輯至紀念品投稿區，徵集的期限至*12/1的23:59截止*～

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# g0v Summit 2024 宣傳組 - [組織規劃](<https://g0v.hackmd.io/S8pRoJUSR7uCpRksl1R7wg>) - [籌備大表](<https://doc>

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Skyler 01:33:38
大家晚安，我是宣傳組設計小組的Skyler，目前是紀念品專案的負責人之一。
g0v Summit 2024的紀念品意見仍在徵集中！根據g0v Summit 2020 整體規劃，共分兩種紀念品，高價紀念品預算為250元，低價紀念品預算則為100元。目前有關紀念品的想法徵集，以前述預算編列的為主。如果有超出原先預算單價太多的紀念品品項還是歡迎提出，往後還是擁有討論能不能做的彈性空間。
歡迎大家將對紀念品的想法編輯至紀念品投稿區，徵集的期限至*12/1的23:59截止*。
Peter 11:03:13
【議程組開會】
大家好，今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！今天會討論稿件數量與宣傳等相關事宜～本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@Pno233SAS8G5UfL5OvSRmA/HkJoRadV6
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp

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20231121會議 - HackMD

# 20231121會議 參與者：peter 連結： 討論議題： 宣傳 稿件數量 文案 截止倒數20天！目前提案：5個！ ## 文案進度 目前有兩篇文案已經丟給宣傳組，目前正在進行審核中。

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Peter 11:03:13
【議程組開會】
大家好，今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！今天會討論稿件數量與宣傳等相關事宜～本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@Pno233SAS8G5UfL5OvSRmA/HkJoRadV6
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp
Peter 19:57:06
想問一下，summit 的夥伴中有人會去12/9大松的嗎～
YC (Yichun) 2023-11-23 12:40:04
我是宣傳組-媒體小組 YC
如果沒有意外，我應該會去~
++
Peter 19:57:06
想問一下，summit 的夥伴中有人會去 summit 的嗎～
YC (Yichun) 2023-11-23 12:40:04
我是宣傳組-媒體小組 YC
如果沒有意外，我應該會去~
++

2023-11-23

2023-11-24

paulpengtw 10:30:56
轉接分機

Hi, is airfare included with participation in g0v summit 2024 by chance?

感謝已回
paulpengtw 10:30:56
轉接分機

Hi, is airfare included with participation in g0v summit 2024 by chance?

感謝已回

2023-11-27

阿敏 16:29:02
嗨大家～ 我是summit電子報的負責人阿敏

十一月刊已完成 (如圖，還請大家協助檢視是否有需修改的地方，謝謝～
阿敏 16:32:30
嗨大家～ 我是電子報的負責人阿敏
電子報的十一月刊已完成 (如圖)，還請大家協助看看是否有需修改的地方，謝謝～
截圖 2023-11-27 下午4.16.47.png
截圖 2023-11-27 下午4.17.36.png
YC (Yichun) 2023-11-27 19:29:26
應該是4年前的提案?
對欸！！感謝YC的提醒～～
我覺得很棒！是否可以放上目前議程預排的資訊（應該可以用之前 @ay870527 做的圖，並且請大家投稿～
然後投稿連結感覺可以附上～
謝謝 @sdfghj1001 的建議～ 目前更新後的版本在 這邊，歡迎大家持續提供寶貴意見
很讚！
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2023-11-28

Peter 16:28:20
【議程組開會】
大家好，雖然我今天才回台，不過今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！今天會討論稿件數量與宣傳等相關事宜～本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@Pno233SAS8G5UfL5OvSRmA/S1lpjfmQr6
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp
Peter 16:28:20
【議程組開會】
大家好，雖然我今天才回台，不過今天晚上10:00還是會有我們議程組的每週開會～歡迎對於summit 議程有興趣的大家上來聊聊！今天會討論稿件數量與宣傳等相關事宜～本週會議會接續上週討論事項，歡迎加加！
共筆：https://g0v.hackmd.io/@Pno233SAS8G5UfL5OvSRmA/S1lpjfmQr6
會議連結：
https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp

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# 20231128會議 參與者：peter 連結：<https://meet.google.com/rsx-zydx-gdp> 討論議題： 宣傳 稿件數量 文案 目前稿件數量：14！ ## 宣

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Peter 23:16:44
大家好，我是議程組的peter，有一件事想要跟大家討論！今天開會時，有夥伴提出為了要貫徹性別主流化的精神，在人的代稱（他 / 你）上可能要調整，目標是讓大家都能感到舒服的方式參與 summit 。因此想要跟大家討論相關的處理方式。這邊的討論結果會應用在 summit 發出去的文案與宣傳內容上，但是投稿者的投稿自稱不受影響。目前我們提出了幾個選項，再麻煩大家提出想法與建議！
- 1. 覺得不在意
- 2. 覺得可以調整成 你 / 妳
- 3. 覺得可以調整成 TA(他/她)跟 NI (你/妳)
- 4. 其他看法，歡迎提出！
- 5. 新增想法：統一用人字旁代稱
目前看起來大家似乎是沒有很在意/認為可以在其他地方實踐？
其他：我覺得可以考慮統一用人字旁的（你／他），因為人字旁的代稱本身是沒有分性別的中性字
補充描述一下我的想法，雖然「他」這個字本身是中性的，但如果表示時同時出現「他／她」就會隱含二元性別區分的意涵，而這也默默影響大家對這個字的看法，也許我們除了統一用字之外，可以再透過其他方式搭配，比如儘量用暱稱稱呼、英文明確採用中性代稱等等，讓整體感受更友善~
我覺得不錯欸，那我新增這個到選項中，大家可以幫忙選一下
已經新增選項5
目前看起來 @fanlanzhang 的意見獲得最多票，那我就記錄下來了！感謝大家！
1️⃣ 6 2️⃣ 2 3️⃣ 2 4️⃣ 2 5️⃣ 5
Peter 23:16:44
大家好，我是議程組的peter，有一件事想要跟大家討論！今天開會時，有夥伴提出為了要貫徹性別主流化的精神，在人的代稱（他 / 你）上可能要調整，目標是讓大家都能感到舒服的方式參與 summit 。因此想要跟大家討論相關的處理方式。這邊的討論結果會應用在 summit 發出去的文案與宣傳內容上，但是投稿者的投稿自稱不受影響。目前我們提出了幾個選項，再麻煩大家提出想法與建議！
- 1. 覺得不在意
- 2. 覺得可以調整成 你 / 妳
- 3. 覺得可以調整成 TA(他/她)跟 NI (你/妳)
- 4. 其他看法，歡迎提出！
目前看起來大家似乎是沒有很在意/認為可以在其他地方實踐？
其他：我覺得可以考慮統一用人字旁的（你／他），因為人字旁的代稱本身是沒有分性別的中性字
補充描述一下我的想法，雖然「他」這個字本身是中性的，但如果表示時同時出現「他／她」就會隱含二元性別區分的意涵，而這也默默影響大家對這個字的看法，也許我們除了統一用字之外，可以再透過其他方式搭配，比如儘量用暱稱稱呼、英文明確採用中性代稱等等，讓整體感受更友善~
我覺得不錯欸，那我新增這個到選項中，大家可以幫忙選一下
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目前看起來 @fanlanzhang 的意見獲得最多票，那我就記錄下來了！感謝大家！

2023-11-29

繁嵐 15:28:53
其他：我覺得可以考慮統一用人字旁的（你／他），因為人字旁的代稱本身是沒有分性別的中性字
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2023-11-30