#cc-daily
2018-01-04
Hey. Started an agenda doc for Saturday planning so I won’t forget anything. Feel free to add your thoughts for discussion and we chat 🙂 http://soul.compositescollective.com/t/planning-q1-2018/171
Composites Collective
Agenda—<https://hackmd.io/CYMwHCAMDMzAtANgIwCNHwCyoEwFN4BOVAQwL2QFZLRIB2MHOvIA>
2018-01-05
Thanks!
@darshana mayfirst going to up us to 50gb for our share.mayfirst.org instances. once we have some solid funding we can pay for dedicated server where we can move discourse and increase nextcloud
i’m working on putting all presentations and materials there. i’ll send you directions for how to get a folder on your computer a la dropbox style to make it easy for us to share documents
sounds good!!
@darshana another org to look at for language https://www.sypartners.com/
sypartners.com
At SYPartners, we believe it is worthy work to envision, believe in, and fight for greatness. One leader, one person, one challenge at a time.
I like how they call out consulting and made by. i was thinking of taking CC in similar direction where we callout consulting and labs. we can chat more but super tickled to see it in the wild
Ida, from orbital, is a designer at SYPartners.
> We help human beings, organizations, & societies become fuller, more vibrant versions of themselves—so they can constantly transform & have impact in the world.
thanks for this shared!
> The Fourth Industrial Revolution requires system and design thinkers, something the traditional consulting firms aren’t
❤️ been saying this for a few years!! i’m so excited for the future despite how scared i am too (read environment)
hah jyup.
people hve been saying it for years— like going back to bucky, victor papanek, etc-- it’s nice to see it finally taking root— likely because of the technologies enabling the climate (non traditional work, etc)
I promise to dig through my folders soon and send over more fodder if you like this stuff. frameworks + readings, systems thinking etc.
so true…decades, really
all the answers exist we just haven’t applied it
omg i love this stuff!
i’d love whatever you want to share ❤️
thanks for this shared!
> The Fourth Industrial Revolution requires system and design thinkers, something the traditional consulting firms aren’t
❤️ been saying this for a few years!! i’m so excited for the future despite how scared i am too (read environment)
hah jyup.
people hve been saying it for years— like going back to bucky, victor papanek, etc-- it’s nice to see it finally taking root— likely because of the technologies enabling the climate (non traditional work, etc)
I promise to dig through my folders soon and send over more fodder if you like this stuff. frameworks + readings, systems thinking etc.
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so true…decades, really
all the answers exist we just haven’t applied it
omg i love this stuff!
i’d love whatever you want to share ❤️
very interesting https://tools.sypartners.com/
SYPartners | Made By SYPartners
Free tools, prompts, and exercises from SYPartners to help your teams flourish.
@lizbarry haven’t looked through these yet but lookie!
Wow!!!!
@lizbarry haven’t looked through these yet but lookie!
Wow!!!!
@darshana do you get notifications when i @ mention you?
curious if email stuff is working or i need to debug that a bit more
anywho, here’s a research thread on hackathons http://soul.compositescollective.com/t/hackthons-a-collection-of-ideas-thoughts-and-articles/172. I shared the link with Mike Caprio
This is a share from Han Hackathons as Co-optation Rituals: Socializing Workers and Institutionalizing Innovation in the “New” Economy Hackathons help to form both a vernacular culture inside the social world of digital technology and a repertoire of everyday social and cultural practices in other spaces, institutions, and economies (Coleman, 2010 ). They translate the values of a longstanding hacker subculture into new work norms, socializing workers to create new products and institutiona...
ah found it!
the system that spread the news of the trade deal https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/index.html
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cool! this is the "taiwanese reddit" that has been alluded to in some resources, right?
hm. it's not in wayback machine. das bad.
http://archive.org/web/*/https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1397625870.A.E8F.html
i'll ping archiveteam.org about that to see if a deep crawl can be seeded
http://archive.org/web/*/https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1397625870.A.E8F.html
i'll ping archiveteam.org about that to see if a deep crawl can be seeded
i think this is around the time of the post in question, but haven't found exact one:
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
2018-01-06
@darshana on appearin
coming!
2018-01-07
@darshana https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients install the mac client; enter https://share.mayfirst.org / then enter the same info you do to access your mail account
nextcloud.com
Nextcloud is an open source, self-hosted file sync and share and communication app platform. Access & sync your files, contacts, calendars & communicate and collaborate across your devices. You decide what happens with your data, where it is and who can access it!
it’s just like dropbox!
works so well. and you can selectively chose what you want to sync to your computer.
we just need to share folders. i’ll shared the team one i have been prepping
mobile apps too 🙂
Hyperallergic
This year’s Versions conference mostly encouraged a more sober, productive, and critical probing of the cultural landscape of virtual reality, augmented reality, and mixed reality.
2018-01-09
cool! this is the "taiwanese reddit" that has been alluded to in some resources, right?
hm. it's not in wayback machine. das bad.
http://archive.org/web/*/https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1397625870.A.E8F.html
i'll ping archiveteam.org about that to see if a deep crawl can be seeded
http://archive.org/web/*/https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1397625870.A.E8F.html
i'll ping archiveteam.org about that to see if a deep crawl can be seeded
i think this is around the time of the post in question, but haven't found exact one:
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
- https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1395219269.A.709.html
Ptt 批踢踢實業坊
前情提要... 台灣於2002年以台澎金馬個別關稅領域(在WTO中簡稱Chinese Taipei)的名稱加入WTO 加入身分為自願選擇的"已開發國家" 請注意，大陸、新加坡都是以"開發中國家"名義加入 而這次爭議的重點服貿協議
2018-01-10
Yes please reuse any proposal writing for the CC website
Sorry I am just catching up on this now, just saw it.
Ah baaaahh sorry I somehow missed this! But yay!
2018-01-11
@itsmisscs hey. Can’t find the link to the DU talk. Send please.
2018-01-13
@darshana https://medium.com/p/fb1a285ac58c/edit DU talk
sorry about that, I swore it was shared. slackarchive.io is always worth checking, too. that’s basically all the channel history.
https://medium.com/@itsmisscs/fb1a285ac58c
Non-login url :)
Non-login url :)
Medium
ideas with you about how we can creatively re:imagine our futures, specifically the futures of our societies, using participatory models…
It’s not published yet.
2018-01-14
@darshana do you have photos from our 4th planning session at orbital? i don’t have them on my phone. maybe on yours? if so, can you add them to http://soul.compositescollective.com/t/fourth-planning-session-part-1/111/1?
Goal: Defining vision for projects and collective. Work in progress in hackmd
2018-01-15
Hey. Things I edited on DU talk (don’t know if they send you edits)…
The #1 principle of the g0v community is that no one is or represents the g0v community.
From papers and work of Ahmed El Hady, Princeton U. and Darshana Narayanan Composites Collective
The #1 principle of the g0v community is that no one is or represents the g0v community.
From papers and work of Ahmed El Hady, Princeton U. and Darshana Narayanan Composites Collective
All set on DU talk
Also, done with wework one. Changes there…
How have we come to this crisis — ‘NYC’s local political system is in need of updating. There are efforts underway spearheaded by BetaNYC and Manhattan Borough president to “update” the community boards. We, at Composites Collective, remain optimistic for the future of New York City.’
Changed out the vTaiwan meeting space pic for the new one (the one in the Civicist)
Added Liz’s name to acknowledgements
How have we come to this crisis — ‘NYC’s local political system is in need of updating. There are efforts underway spearheaded by BetaNYC and Manhattan Borough president to “update” the community boards. We, at Composites Collective, remain optimistic for the future of New York City.’
Changed out the vTaiwan meeting space pic for the new one (the one in the Civicist)
Added Liz’s name to acknowledgements
here too added my name to the organizational structures research with Ahmed
feel free to change back the vTaiwan pic is you would like the pink label there
Thanks @darshana!
any time!! 🙂
thanks for writing!!
we both wrote 🙂 Just lots of copy pasta and editing our scripts
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will put those out
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what time do you want to write tomorrow?
afternoon? happy to start after lunch and go onwards from there, if that works for you
let’s do that!
start at 2PM?
2018-01-16
vnyc appearin
2018-01-17
good session. coming along. i really like the symmetry between process and case study section now
oh cool! An extended pic
I’m ready to get back to it whenever you are
need another 30 minutes
middle of a task
sounds good
I’ll get ready and out of here
will ping you at 3:30PM
will have a few hours before Prog Hack night
okay
I’m back
I think my stupid phone just died on me
for good
oh no!
so weird
battery?
could be the cold
I don’t know
Try bending screen or applying weird pressure? I've had two phone where some looseness could be fixed with pressure. Around screen or plugged-in USB adapter should give leverage on internals
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
so strange
hopefully just the cold
I left it charge. Let’s see…
get started?
yes…2 secs. just putting coffee on. suddenly got way exhausted. will join in appear in
sounds good. no rush!
2018-01-18
Try bending screen or applying weird pressure? I've had two phone where some looseness could be fixed with pressure. Around screen or plugged-in USB adapter should give leverage on internals
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/christinaxu/multi-entry-telling-the-stories-of-young-creative/ nice video inspiration for patreon
Kickstarter
A multimedia collection of stories, interviews, and guides that vibrantly portrays the lives and worlds of young Chinese creatives.
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2018-01-23
Hey. Let’s put in some time this week for CC planning? Over a meal would be fine too 🙂
2018-01-25
Also, I am meeting with Civicist next week for BetaNYC stuff. We should update them about our article. Let’s chat about how to convey.
2018-01-27
Is anyone having lunch?
I just finished class and I'm on 13th street
I think I might just walk towards Orbital
I am here at orbital. Just ordered lunch from a new spot on rivington. Tongkatsu :)
:D
Ok I might eat ramen out and then make my way over
Sounds good. It’s how and tell. I’m going to be lurking on fl2 for a bit
Cool. I just need to work and not talk actually 👓 😊
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haha SAME
so busy
👋 hi. have a good work day ladies. I’ll be back tonight, down to meet up this week if you’re up to stuff. xx
I'm a few blocks away gonna get coffee want one?
2018-01-28
regarding the license discussion, Wendy Chun (who we heard at CyberConf) in "On Sourcery" cites
>Niva Elkin-Koren in “Creative Commons: A Skeptical View of a Worthy Project"
>[Sharealike] “does not aim at creating a public domain, at least not in the strict legal sense of a regime that is free of any exclusive proprietary rights. The strategy is entirely dependent upon a proprietary regime and drives its legal force from its existence. The normative framework assumes that it is possible to replace existing practices of producing and distributing informational works but relying on the existing property regime. The underlying assumption is that if intellectual-property rights remain the same, but rights are exercised differently by their owners, free culture would emerge.
>Niva Elkin-Koren in “Creative Commons: A Skeptical View of a Worthy Project"
>[Sharealike] “does not aim at creating a public domain, at least not in the strict legal sense of a regime that is free of any exclusive proprietary rights. The strategy is entirely dependent upon a proprietary regime and drives its legal force from its existence. The normative framework assumes that it is possible to replace existing practices of producing and distributing informational works but relying on the existing property regime. The underlying assumption is that if intellectual-property rights remain the same, but rights are exercised differently by their owners, free culture would emerge.
This is regarding the US social movement's emphasis on the commons and GPL vs the Asian context of g0v which public domains everything, which is rather more Maoist, in which individuals are not offered similar rights. This is my preliminary understanding.
The Western context for sharealike licenses rests (imo) Elinor Ostrom's theories of commons management. a comment on how property can be held outside of states and markets.
I read this quick blog https://www.plutobooks.com/blog/elinor-ostrom-advice-jeremy-corbyn/ and found:
"Rather boldly, her Nobel lecture was entitled ‘Beyond Markets and States’. She believed that much economic activity could be undertaken directly by communities, bypassing both centralised state control and market activity. This notion of an element of collective ownership is more and more important in our economy."
Back to my thoughts, civic tech in asia is working in the context of a centralized state. Need to bring in anarchist theory.
I read this quick blog https://www.plutobooks.com/blog/elinor-ostrom-advice-jeremy-corbyn/ and found:
"Rather boldly, her Nobel lecture was entitled ‘Beyond Markets and States’. She believed that much economic activity could be undertaken directly by communities, bypassing both centralised state control and market activity. This notion of an element of collective ownership is more and more important in our economy."
Back to my thoughts, civic tech in asia is working in the context of a centralized state. Need to bring in anarchist theory.
The next phase of sorting this out is to go through values. The values which bring people together to work on something, the value which emerges from the work
Sorry tangent: Did you even hear about how Facebook originally had a "user vote" in its corporate documents, and how the third and last vote went down in 2012? https://techcrunch.com/2012/12/09/vote-on-facebook-changes/
i found that from reading today's article on how Facebook is going to roll out a new "global privacy settings hub" after pressure from the EU's GDPR https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/24/facebook-to-roll-out-global-privacy-settings-hub-thanks-to-gdpr/
another one on fb, this time on Egypt shutting down tend of thousands of "activist" accounts http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-facebook-bans-free-speech-egypt-activist-social-media-april-6th-mubarak-1685366161