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2017-12-01
tweeted rightscon about that. assuming yes, but you've done more of this than i have 🙂
as for smart city conf, not official, but i worked briefly with Beth Coleman on another event. she is so thoughtful and intentional, that i can't imagine anything but speakers getting in free (if she has a hand)
as for smart city conf, not official, but i worked briefly with Beth Coleman on another event. she is so thoughtful and intentional, that i can't imagine anything but speakers getting in free (if she has a hand)
Unrelated: @patcon re models for open source projects, see Nobel Prize economic theorist Elinor Ostrom's "8 principles for managing the commons" (cc @greggish in hopes of reviving the content on that deleted RiseUp etherpad) http://www.onthecommons.org/magazine/elinor-ostroms-8-principles-managing-commmons#sthash.7tXKFwOQ.dpbs
Interestingly, her wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elinor_Ostrom contains the nugget that her early 60's writing was on "The organization of government in metropolitan areas" -- so relevant to us here!
Interestingly, her wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elinor_Ostrom contains the nugget that her early 60's writing was on "The organization of government in metropolitan areas" -- so relevant to us here!
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Funny you say, @lizbarry. I recently started reading her governing the commons book. Haven’t gotten very far, already sooo much we can learn from her work. Highly recommended.
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heyo! I'll be makingmy way online with y'all between 9-10am, and I'll be available until around 1pm 🙂
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@darshana @patcon @lizbarry ^^
@patcon finding you
tell us where
Omw upstairs to get settled in toronto. Maybe 10 main. Don't wait up!
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2017-12-02
rightscon policy on ticket exemptions:
https://www.rightscon.org/submission-guidelines/#2758
https://www.rightscon.org/submission-guidelines/#2758
<!here> give what to who?
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A billboard in the heart of Silicon Valley declaims the evils of the region and touts the virtues of New York.
@patcon ^^ what i vented on
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the holopolis realtimeboard as example:
https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_k03x7MA=/
https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_k03x7MA=/
city council chambers in Toronto: http://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2012/02/42dc8b0c42b2b0a8ebdeea2d5736.jpg
whoa. i never see it with such suited up people. not sure what was happening there...
cool layout, in that council chambers are in the "nest" of city hall:
https://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/45c/news/article26327071.ece/BINARY/w620/web-gt-cityhall11nw6.jpg
https://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/45c/news/article26327071.ece/BINARY/w620/web-gt-cityhall11nw6.jpg
held up by this thing in lobby:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4035/4654156000_27464f3f69_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4035/4654156000_27464f3f69_b.jpg
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Discuss. Decide. Do.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18hYQnUcteMWqOFEClXehESeZb_jPF7Th/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18hYQnUcteMWqOFEClXehESeZb_jPF7Th/view?usp=sharing
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the book! gotta go! late! yeow!
this is a great contemporary call to act http://www.intelligentmischief.com/theory-of-change/
Intelligent Mischief
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re: the book. bianca (consultation-friend) and I had conversations last year while myself and @derekhoward (mydem0cracy.ca collaborator) were pursuing using vtaiwan-like processes in toronto -- at the time it felt like working with designers to develop a common visual language around the phases of the consultation (from the book, but meshed with vtaiwan practices),as part of an open toolkit of sorts.
the thinking was that this would allow people to understand the process and their place in it, even between consultations organized by different people. it felt like a really great place to include designers and their skills.
we never went any further than that discussion though, but i'd love to re-open if others here think it might be helpful -- seems like that piece could provide a logical segmentation of work? 🙂
the thinking was that this would allow people to understand the process and their place in it, even between consultations organized by different people. it felt like a really great place to include designers and their skills.
we never went any further than that discussion though, but i'd love to re-open if others here think it might be helpful -- seems like that piece could provide a logical segmentation of work? 🙂
2017-12-03
Sounds good to me, people need support to learn how to do this stuff. Toolkit/curriculum whatever's clever
Hey I'll be "study hall" this afternoon if anyone wants to pool our collective motivation
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2017-12-04
Yesterday's "On the Media" podcast covered the DDOSing of public comment in their "public comment is broken" session http://www.wnyc.org/story/public-comment-broken , the writer of https://www.wired.com/story/bots-broke-fcc-public-comment-system/ is very articulate
Also see this PDF to public comment in the US: https://www.federalregister.gov/uploads/2011/01/the_rulemaking_process.pdf
Also see this PDF to public comment in the US: https://www.federalregister.gov/uploads/2011/01/the_rulemaking_process.pdf
WNYC 
meet.mayfirst.org
no video for me today. sick.
oh no
can you hear me?
no
you aren’t showing up as in the room
yeah
no one else in mine
the link i posted?
I clicked the link you sent me
yeah
so weird lol
2017-12-05
i see you
did you hear the strange audio
@darshana @itsmisscs is it cool if i tentatively merge this? (I realize it might need fixups, but perhaps we could do that asap after?)
I found some other folks in toronto who are diving into pol.is and consultations today, and I was hoping to share the README link to orient them to our efforts. right now, this is better than nothing, right? (really eager to re-energize a crew in toronto around this)
https://github.com/g0vNYC/hub/pull/6
I found some other folks in toronto who are diving into pol.is and consultations today, and I was hoping to share the README link to orient them to our efforts. right now, this is better than nothing, right? (really eager to re-energize a crew in toronto around this)
https://github.com/g0vNYC/hub/pull/6
GitHub
Could use a picky once-over, but thinking something is better than nothing, and didn't want to delay again. is the email in the code of conduct the right one? is there a public kanban board we cou...
actually, in light of this, i'd love to revisit:
1. openning up trello org as public
2. openning up our active sprint boards for others to orient and participate
are these two things that would be straightforward to do today without much added worked?
1. openning up trello org as public
2. openning up our active sprint boards for others to orient and participate
are these two things that would be straightforward to do today without much added worked?
@patcon by all means feel free to merge
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as for sprints, i think it may be easier to create a new board and we’ll move our things over (@darshana weigh in here). as it stands, we’re working on things that can be public but not certain how we’d pull in others.
thanks! is it ok to be public with stuff even though we don't know how to integrate people? i wonder if maybe letting people see will allow them to know how to best engage (connecting people, understanding how other projects/initiatives might fit, etc), without much burden on us?
Ah, to live a life without fear of being scooped -- a goal!!!!!
what about things that you don’t want to integrate people on 😛
overall i think public is always good because people can help or offer input
Totally. What if we made lists of those necessarily private spaces? EDGI imho took a really rad approach of saying for some convos (and this was all internal, mind you): "private things within this org are totally cool, but if you have private channels or private google drives or whatever, let's document them and their purpose and who started them so that they're legible"
I am interested in all of this, but particularly curious about the proto-government angle, and so will prob always ask for temperature checks to that end :)
I am interested in all of this, but particularly curious about the proto-government angle, and so will prob always ask for temperature checks to that end :)
we’ve talked about the need to spend some time putting together areas where others can participate
which led us to an extensive planning session
results of that session are still not super concrete, i.e. what are we focusing on/looking into
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thanks! is it ok to be public with stuff even though we don't know how to integrate people? i wonder if maybe letting people see will allow them to know how to best engage (connecting people, understanding how other projects/initiatives might fit, etc), without much burden on us?
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Ah, to live a life without fear of being scooped -- a goal!!!!!
2017-12-07
Sadly pro-bono but still http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/servicedesign/volunteer.html
So bittersweet! Engagement: yay! Explicitly defined to not compensate: sad panda.
what about things that you don’t want to integrate people on 😛
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overall i think public is always good because people can help or offer input
just sent in, thanks! curious to see what they’re up to.
I am, too. Let me know what you hear back. Do you know anyone from the team?
I do— Emily Herrick. (Just realizing :) )
Maybe she wants to join up on Sunday. Sending her a note.
fantastic! i’ll get an agenda going today that you can share out. feel free to come for all or part of the discussion.
Terrific, thanks sounds good
2017-12-08
I am, too. Let me know what you hear back. Do you know anyone from the team?
I do— Emily Herrick. (Just realizing :) )
Maybe she wants to join up on Sunday. Sending her a note.
fantastic! i’ll get an agenda going today that you can share out. feel free to come for all or part of the discussion.
Terrific, thanks sounds good
Totally. What if we made lists of those necessarily private spaces? EDGI imho took a really rad approach of saying for some convos (and this was all internal, mind you): "private things within this org are totally cool, but if you have private channels or private google drives or whatever, let's document them and their purpose and who started them so that they're legible"
I am interested in all of this, but particularly curious about the proto-government angle, and so will prob always ask for temperature checks to that end :)
I am interested in all of this, but particularly curious about the proto-government angle, and so will prob always ask for temperature checks to that end :)
So bittersweet! Engagement: yay! Explicitly defined to not compensate: sad panda.
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@darshana just when we were thinking of pateron everyone is up in 🔥 about recent changes
2017-12-09
@darshana how was the event yesterday? we were hoping to see the conclusion but the stream stopped after the intro
Haven't watched it yet, but I discovered there was a second feed! (can't pause maybe?)
https://youtu.be/UAwJkjdgIaU
https://youtu.be/UAwJkjdgIaU
oh you found it!!
The event went really well. The best so far. Having people actually attend makes a huge difference. Your question was spot on though. Slido only works of it is being displayed the entire time. People don't use it to ask questions otherwise. They did the survey but didn't ask questions. Important for next time!
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Also, some excellent leads
Met her ^^
Works at the PB place and she wants to meet and plot
She is great
Yay! awesome. Josh Lerner’s crew
she is very interested in see the videos we took of candidates during our summer exp
says that she has been trying to get access of council members and it’s been hard
we really did make good use of election time
It like the way she thinks will be good to see what she can push from the PB angle
We had a chat about expanding beyond infrastructure, they are trying in small ways. tackling homelessness issue in some dist etc. Will be good to push them on this
also, she is thinking A LOT about how to reach non-digital audiences and use visualizations effectively
that’s great! they would be excellent facilitation partners…we augment their practices.
oh wow! council members in office already or ones that were running?
we should put those up! raw convos, why not…very au. we can say it is raw footage \
Also, lots of new info from Noel and D&S. let's chat some time
whenever. can hop on a call if you want to debrief
@itsmisscs back in coffee shop. Can chat whenever
Yeah, slido bit we knew from Au. I know initially we had asked about different projectors for early ones. I have an extra projector that slido master can add to her kit 😉
Haven't watched it yet, but I discovered there was a second feed! (can't pause maybe?)
https://youtu.be/UAwJkjdgIaU
https://youtu.be/UAwJkjdgIaU
YouTube
Haha who is "slido master"??
lol. That’s what Noel titled me last night
Yeah! Second projector is good! I first thought of the second projector as mostly for transparency but now it seems like it encourages people to engage with slido. Let’s test next time and see. Also, how cool would it be to have a projector always at hand!!!
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> a projector always on hand!!!
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images1000x1000/uo_smart_beam_uo_smart_beam_smart_beam_laser_projector_1279596.jpg
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images1000x1000/uo_smart_beam_uo_smart_beam_smart_beam_laser_projector_1279596.jpg
just pair with our politican in your pocket @devin and we’re set.
@itsmisscs back in coffee shop. Can chat whenever
she is very interested in see the videos we took of candidates during our summer exp
says that she has been trying to get access of council members and it’s been hard
we really did make good use of election time
It like the way she thinks will be good to see what she can push from the PB angle
We had a chat about expanding beyond infrastructure, they are trying in small ways. tackling homelessness issue in some dist etc. Will be good to push them on this
also, she is thinking A LOT about how to reach non-digital audiences and use visualizations effectively
it’s not a pico one, but it isn’t annoying to transport
pocket projector would be neat though
yeah, au mentioned it needed to be up so people can engage. thinking back to tictec, it become valuable for me when i could see it
@darshana @itsmisscs been meaning to cross this off my crafts to do list https://www.popsci.com/article/diy/turn-shoe-box-phone-projector-video
Popular Science
Buy some new crocs, gain a mini movie theater.
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ooooo nice!
(though pretty sure quality would be abominable)
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> a projector always on hand!!!
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images1000x1000/uo_smart_beam_uo_smart_beam_smart_beam_laser_projector_1279596.jpg
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images1000x1000/uo_smart_beam_uo_smart_beam_smart_beam_laser_projector_1279596.jpg
just pair with our politican in your pocket @devin and we’re set.
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that’s great! they would be excellent facilitation partners…we augment their practices.
oh wow! council members in office already or ones that were running?
we should put those up! raw convos, why not…very au. we can say it is raw footage \
oh you found it!!
@darshana very interesting comments from creator of blulu metrics. their reactions to ocf report https://disqus.com/home/discussion/opengovreport-ocf-tw/8146343df8a94559ae13733228cab03c/
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For folks joining/planning on joining in on Sunday (@patcon @lizbarry @darshana @devin @katehnicholson) http://soul.compositescollective.com/t/second-workshop-orbital-sunday-december-10/153 Please feel free to edit the Hackmd post. If you have questions about anything, you can reply to the thread or ask here in slack. Excited to see everyone!
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2017-12-10
@darshana i’m finally back. alive. ❄️
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2017-12-11
@patcon set the channel topic: PUBLICLY logged. Daily going ons of g0vnyc project. All welcome! Standup daily 11am (https://appear.in/vnyc). Resources/Notes: http://beta.hackfoldr.org/vnyc. Set your notifications accordingly. We chatter.
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Did anyone give @katehnicholson money for snacks?
Just followed!
no?
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I’ll send Venmo request for 4 bucks from each of you. Liz what’s your phone? I got the others.
<tel:336-269-1539|336-269-1539> on venmo i'm Liz-Barry-3
Thanks!
Such delicious snacks for 4$!!
Oh wait I miscalculated. @darshana how much did we spend in the transaction you made w my cash
The cash transaction was for 8.60
Thanks for paying :)
All good. Will await the request :) thanks so much snacks++ crew
The cash transaction was for 8.60
Thanks for paying :)
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yo @katehnicholson @davehackett1 can you dm me a google-friendly email so that I can add you to some a google drive (just some odds and ends: session proposal and a book i scanned). Also, if you're on trello, would be rad to get a username or email that you signed up with, so I can add y'all :tada:
can someone invite me to the airtable at patrick.c.connolly at the big G one? cc @devin
also, @darshana @itsmisscs might you have google-friendly emails that you could DM me so that I can specifically invite you to the session doc (it's world editable right now)
<tel:336-269-1539|336-269-1539> on venmo i'm Liz-Barry-3
morning! i just wrote back a lot of replies in the vnyc-grants-conf channel. and also i think in a DM shared more about Ed Keller's partner Carla Letai (?) who works in VR at Rensellear
ok i just got connected on email to the woman who runs the VR lab at RPI -- does someone who is really into VR and wanting to get us into Holopolis want to get looped in a take lead?
2017-12-12
Nice, @lizbarry! Q: Where should meeting pictures and artifacts be uploaded in general?
It's not official yet until I pitch it and we consent, but this proposed trello board has a resources list, in which I have a google drive with some docs we've worked with:
https://trello.com/b/ZzxRte37/g0vnetwork-task-tracker
Could add there if it seems like the right place?
https://trello.com/b/ZzxRte37/g0vnetwork-task-tracker
Could add there if it seems like the right place?
Loveliness. Thanks, I’ll check it out in a bit.
A thought — once we have an assortment of facilitation method resources we could have weekly meetings where we each (or in pairs/threes) bring one method to the table and practice on each other— to download everyone quickly on what’s out there—in a sort of applied learning exchange. Could help us quickly eliminate and choose methodologies that we want to use / adapt for the toolkit. ** not sure if this is the right place for this comment, if not feel free to copy past somewhere **
2017-12-13
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It's not official yet until I pitch it and we consent, but this proposed trello board has a resources list, in which I have a google drive with some docs we've worked with:
https://trello.com/b/ZzxRte37/g0vnetwork-task-tracker
Could add there if it seems like the right place?
https://trello.com/b/ZzxRte37/g0vnetwork-task-tracker
Could add there if it seems like the right place?
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ok i just got connected on email to the woman who runs the VR lab at RPI -- does someone who is really into VR and wanting to get us into Holopolis want to get looped in a take lead?
Here's a handdrawn guide "How to have great meetings" that Molly de Blanc illustrated at Public Lab's last Barnraising https://www.instagram.com/p/BbF1F6cAvT0/ -- she would be great to loop in with as the "methods toolkit" gets going https://www.instagram.com/p/BbF1F6cAvT0/
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let's talk tonight in person about a Taiwan travel plan, ok? @itsmisscs @darshana and we can call in @patcon
I'm down, but hacknight tonight! Pitches at 7:30. Groups convene around 7:40.
Could I call in from there and invite observers to listen in? I don't want to turn this into an onboarding call, so would need to be careful on that, but would be helpful to energising Toronto :) I could bring them up-to-speed in 10 min before calling in?
Could I call in from there and invite observers to listen in? I don't want to turn this into an onboarding call, so would need to be careful on that, but would be helpful to energising Toronto :) I could bring them up-to-speed in 10 min before calling in?
Or I could just do the call from there, and 7:40 would give me time to join
it's like our travel logistics
it's not planning the awesome stuff we would do, it's figuring out how much we can personally spend and stuff
Ahh. this sound like so much fun.
I'm willing to call into Toronto in general but jeex i am not going to get on the phone and talk about my personal finance!
like, to get these tickets in a reasonable time frame we're going to have to purchase them before we have any grant money in hand. As a group we need to talk about who has cash to put down, and who doesn't, and if anyone can cover the people who don't. this is not for public broadcast.
i also am 🙅🏾 to a big public call
this is very specific and related to the group of people that are planning on going on the trip.
@lizbarry Darshana has to leave for an appointment at 7:30. Seems it may not be a good time for 2/4 members. Can we have this wednesday?
Haha ok ok I thought this was bigger scope. I have that group commitment anyhow, so I guess I can't make tonight anyhow. Wednesday gets my vote
ok good idea! i can do more like 8pm on wednesday
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I'm down, but hacknight tonight! Pitches at 7:30. Groups convene around 7:40.
Could I call in from there and invite observers to listen in? I don't want to turn this into an onboarding call, so would need to be careful on that, but would be helpful to energising Toronto :) I could bring them up-to-speed in 10 min before calling in?
Could I call in from there and invite observers to listen in? I don't want to turn this into an onboarding call, so would need to be careful on that, but would be helpful to energising Toronto :) I could bring them up-to-speed in 10 min before calling in?
Or I could just do the call from there, and 7:40 would give me time to join
it's like our travel logistics
it's not planning the awesome stuff we would do, it's figuring out how much we can personally spend and stuff
Loveliness. Thanks, I’ll check it out in a bit.
Ahh. this sound like so much fun.
I'm willing to call into Toronto in general but jeex i am not going to get on the phone and talk about my personal finance!
like, to get these tickets in a reasonable time frame we're going to have to purchase them before we have any grant money in hand. As a group we need to talk about who has cash to put down, and who doesn't, and if anyone can cover the people who don't. this is not for public broadcast.
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i also am 🙅🏾 to a big public call
this is very specific and related to the group of people that are planning on going on the trip.
@lizbarry Darshana has to leave for an appointment at 7:30. Seems it may not be a good time for 2/4 members. Can we have this wednesday?
Haha ok ok I thought this was bigger scope. I have that group commitment anyhow, so I guess I can't make tonight anyhow. Wednesday gets my vote
@darshana I believe I have added links to all the areas in the article were photos were marked. I left you one question about the photo in the “Back to NYC” section. I still have a couple albums to upload (mglee, fi, claire), but all the photos that support the article are up on flickr now. Feel free to pull stuff that you want, too.
do you have the link handy to the g0v hackth25n photos?
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hmmm one does not seem able to rename channels. we can archive and open a new one.
@itsmisscs Its up to whoever created. One sec
I’ll change!
So @darshana
ah. cool. i’ll have her rename this. any others? happy to make the grants conf more generic to the vnetwork as well
I'd be down for a more generic rename, but admit that I'm a little confused on what we decided: I left thinking g0v-network was the new namespace, but I'm down for vnetwork too, which I think @katehnicholson used in that rad image she made
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
g0vnetwork
one and same
Ooooh! Okie doke!
the grants we list have been more applicable to the work we’re doing in nyc
Sure. I mean, I might hop in and participate in grant stuff too, and might not relate to vnyc, but whatever's clever
maybe all these get renamed to cc channels? and then you can create more generic ones for the network?
(As in I wasn't reading them specific for NYC context, but am down whatever. Don't want to step on toes. I will alwaysbbe conversant, cause we're all on same team! Team human!
grants are for all 🙂
i’m mostly just sharing how we’ve been using these channels up to now
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Oh! Phewf! I'm glad you clarified that. thought I'd misunderstood
Tl;dr def rename whatever feels right, and we could maybe confirm that it makes sense to others next meeting, and sort from there
ok good idea! i can do more like 8pm on wednesday
A thought — once we have an assortment of facilitation method resources we could have weekly meetings where we each (or in pairs/threes) bring one method to the table and practice on each other— to download everyone quickly on what’s out there—in a sort of applied learning exchange. Could help us quickly eliminate and choose methodologies that we want to use / adapt for the toolkit. ** not sure if this is the right place for this comment, if not feel free to copy past somewhere **
I’ll change!
2017-12-14
@darshana has renamed the channel from "vnyc-daily" to "cc-daily"
2017-12-15
it’s out!
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great great job, @darshana!
they haven’t tweeted about it yet lol
are they keeping it silent?
oh shit, i just tweeted. was wondering why I couldn’t find anything up there to re-tweet
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let me know if you prefer to made the first shout
i think you retweeted my tweet, right?
thank you ❤️
oh cool, you wrote your own!
excellent. Thank you!!
k
yyeeeeeaaahhh! excited to read!
please read 🙂 would love love to hear what you think!
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2017-12-18
@darshana maybe this is the avenue to hold the facilitation about civic hall new space…https://civichall.org/programs/eir/. Can’t believe it’s one of those “pay to be a resident” types. grrr
Civic Hall
The Civic Hall Entrepreneurs In Residence Program offers an unparalleled opportunity for civic innovators to foster their growth, while simultaneously strengthening Civic Hall’s community. Our Residents are committed to the mission of Civic Hall, building civic technology, and contributing to others in meaningful and impactful ways. Qualified participants are looking to get a civic tech project, …
@darshana @sylin PDC short paper is coming up early February. Shall we resume weekly or bi-weekly work sessions? I’m still interested in submitting. @sylin if you’ve decided to just have it be a PDIS thing, let us know!
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Hey thanks for bring this up! As mentioned last week, Avross and I have started the first draft. We plan to have it done before Christmas and send the draft to you as Christmas present.. let’s (Avross, D, cs, Shu) have a meeting on 3rd Jan noon, your 2nd evening. Does that work?
Is it possible to have it earlier? Noon is 1am EST / 2am DR
Maybe 11pm EST?
Also, I’m totes okay with helping y’all edit/offer feedback on your submission 🙂 It sounds like you have a direction.
Ah I have lost track of our time difference, let’s do 10am EST then :)
The direction align with original goal of documenting how vTaiwan works and describe some real caes, that means empirical case studies with methodology.
Thx for the offer, we will try wrap this present asap
10am EST is 11PM in Taipei, is that okay?
We can do 10PM est, 11AM taipei, if that’s better
ohoh. thought i was in est…
You’re living in the future 😉
10PM est, 11AM taipei ok.
lol I slept too much
didn’t catch up when earth made its turn
10PM EST on Jan 2nd?
> original goal of documenting how vTaiwan works and describe some real caes, that means empirical case studies with methodology.
i feel that I should mention that @theobass has a giant long-form case-study doc written (19 pages) on vtaiwan in extension to the nestaUK Digital Democracy whitepaper, and might be worth sync'ing up with?
he wrote it in late 2016, but got busy and then just got back from 3 months sabbatical. He's now dusting it off when he's back in the office in 4 days, and finishing was going to be his first priority
anyhow, just relaying, and perhaps y'all might want to connect 🙂
i feel that I should mention that @theobass has a giant long-form case-study doc written (19 pages) on vtaiwan in extension to the nestaUK Digital Democracy whitepaper, and might be worth sync'ing up with?
he wrote it in late 2016, but got busy and then just got back from 3 months sabbatical. He's now dusting it off when he's back in the office in 4 days, and finishing was going to be his first priority
anyhow, just relaying, and perhaps y'all might want to connect 🙂
@patcon we are aware of his article except that’s still an on going project. Would love to say hi.
Hey @sylin! Would love to chat! I've just been tidying it up and responding to helpful comments from @patcon and other colleagues. Could i send you an email to have a catch-up maybe? Heard lots about the stuff you're doing 🙂
Yay let’s catch up :) shuyanglin@ey.gov.tw
Is it possible to have it earlier? Noon is 1am EST / 2am DR
Maybe 11pm EST?
Also, I’m totes okay with helping y’all edit/offer feedback on your submission 🙂 It sounds like you have a direction.
Ah I have lost track of our time difference, let’s do 10am EST then :)
The direction align with original goal of documenting how vTaiwan works and describe some real caes, that means empirical case studies with methodology.
Thx for the offer, we will try wrap this present asap
10am EST is 11PM in Taipei, is that okay?
We can do 10PM est, 11AM taipei, if that’s better
ohoh. thought i was in est…
You’re living in the future 😉
10PM est, 11AM taipei ok.
lol I slept too much
didn’t catch up when earth made its turn
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10PM EST on Jan 2nd?
> original goal of documenting how vTaiwan works and describe some real caes, that means empirical case studies with methodology.
i feel that I should mention that @theobass has a giant long-form case-study doc written (19 pages) on vtaiwan in extension to the nestaUK Digital Democracy whitepaper, and might be worth sync'ing up with?
he wrote it in late 2016, but got busy and then just got back from 3 months sabbatical. He's now dusting it off when he's back in the office in 4 days, and finishing was going to be his first priority
anyhow, just relaying, and perhaps y'all might want to connect 🙂
i feel that I should mention that @theobass has a giant long-form case-study doc written (19 pages) on vtaiwan in extension to the nestaUK Digital Democracy whitepaper, and might be worth sync'ing up with?
he wrote it in late 2016, but got busy and then just got back from 3 months sabbatical. He's now dusting it off when he's back in the office in 4 days, and finishing was going to be his first priority
anyhow, just relaying, and perhaps y'all might want to connect 🙂
@patcon we are aware of his article except that’s still an on going project. Would love to say hi.
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2017-12-19
@darshana i’m out for the day. see you tomorrow for planning. i’m returning to the lovely cafe that we chatted from this summer when you were helping me workshop the eyeo talk 🙂
nice! See you tomorrow 🙂
it was closed. lolz. found a new coworking space though. 10$ for speedy internet. not bad
not as nice as the other, but I’ll take a solid spot to work for the day.
@darshana can we start 11:30?
Sure!
ty
2017-12-20
few more minutes…
@darshana i’m on appear.in
Cool.
Coming on
@darshana and done
i’m still on appear.in
back
oy
2017-12-21
whoa
> The Flower Matrix (2013-ongoing) – Decor in large editions from Claudia Hart’s mixed-reality chamber (on view at Gallery 151 in Chelsea through January 28th, 2018)
2017-12-24
sutble animations. focus on photos. nice inspiration when it comes to story telling on the web http://loveforiceland.com/
loveforiceland.com
Love for Iceland is a project made by and for lovers of Iceland, for those who have visited and for those who wish to. This site is a tribute to this magical island, aiming to guide the visitor through some of its secrets.
@lizbarry ^^
I like A LOT
This style of storytelling is so good.
Another one…
I really like that one. thanks for sharing. I’d love to publish some our critical explorations interactively. such a different experience than reading. thanks for sharing!
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@itsmisscs Content for CC website…
tweaks to main page — https://hackmd.io/CYMwhgDAHAnAjAIwLRwOwlUgLMBBmJBMAY2RhggCY8oEBWMSqAUyA===
Facilitation project — https://hackmd.io/OwUwDAhsCsDGAmBaAZrOiAsICMHEQGZgAORAJgDYBOM2ZECgI2guKA==
@lizbarry is it ok if we use your writing for the facilitation project page on CC website??
@lizbarry @patcon the plan is to have the website ready and apply to https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/challenging-inequality/. Get them to fund our facilitation project.
we have a good shot!! Some solid grant money will be soooo good.
Yes please reuse any proposal writing for the CC website
Sorry I am just catching up on this now, just saw it.
Ah baaaahh sorry I somehow missed this! But yay!
@lizbarry is it ok if we use your writing for the facilitation project page on CC website??
@lizbarry @patcon the plan is to have the website ready and apply to https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/challenging-inequality/. Get them to fund our facilitation project.
Ford Foundation
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we have a good shot!! Some solid grant money will be soooo good.
2017-12-26
@darshana dope! thank you! will dig in deeper tomorrow. keeping space for family today
though the telenovelas won out over bingo game
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Interesting reference from pdc vtaiwan paper that could apply to next civicist article https://culanth.org/articles/157-geeks-social-imaginaries-and-recursive-publics
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@darshana invited you to toggl. let me know if you have trouble joining
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2017-12-27
Aw man, couldn't view paper on web, so tried to share PDF from scihub, but upload fails... perhaps slack blocks sharing of some files via checksums :/
2017-12-28
@darshana First draft of WeWork talk in Medium https://medium.com/p/a3977d620af8/edit. I’m wrapping up DU talk. Then I’m moving on to site work. Thanks so much for the content. Will be sharing review links with you over next couple days.
2017-12-29
cool! I’ll take a look at the draft
Sweet. I’m cleaning up a few things. I’m at the end of the doc in the part where we mock vtaiwan process for rezoning
yeah. I started it editing and it kicked me off. I’ll take over once you are done.
🙂
it did?!
annoying. i’ll jump out. I was just adding links tightening up that section. Please go ahead!
I’ve been in that doc since AM. Will gladly take a break
@darshana ^^
here’s the outline we put together https://hackmd.io/CwVgTAJgnA7GBmBaAHBAjAI0cN8ooGMBmAU0XgAZp5M0woi0g===
I made a gif of the watchout snippet. I’m optimizing it now. had some troubles adding it in earlier. medium kept rejecting it.
no rush. today is a slightly frenetic day for me. Getting ready to leave for providence..
oh good, i was wondering when you were heading out
train?
hitching a ride to boston with Henry and then train from there
so much more convenient
much!
nice to drive with friends
tell him “hello”
will do! Haven’t decided if we are going to drive tonight or tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning would be good. Then I can clean my house etc.
Soooooo many chores
awww
nice to come back to a clean house
yeah. So very much nicer.
I wanted to get the DU talk out before New Year bc I plan on sending an email to all the contacts to see what we can line up for next year. Since you’re busy, I’ll get feedback from folks in MUC and maybe Liz. We can always edit again once it is up. That okay with you?
can you explain more? email to all contacts
emailing the people i met in denver
also, I’ll take a look before that. Would always like to see stuff that we have worked onto together before it goes online.
ah! cool!!
I’ll take a look. Before New Year for sure.
Great! ty. will post tomorrow.
great! 🙂
can’t look at medium any more. on to the website and other low hanging fruit
probably going to go swim actually…sun came out
have fun!!!
it’s sunny here but sooooo cold
will do
thanks!
ha. never made it. i need to go in the AM. will go tomorrow
I’ll take a look at site stuff as you pass along 🙂
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Sweet. I’m cleaning up a few things. I’m at the end of the doc in the part where we mock vtaiwan process for rezoning
by the way, i’m at the Talk to NYC youtube account. Mary Silver <3…And Chris Marte video that provided so much laughter has the highest number of views hehe
we did so much this summer 🤗
yeah. I started it editing and it kicked me off. I’ll take over once you are done.
🙂
We did a lot!!
summer and after..
it did?!
annoying. i’ll jump out. I was just adding links tightening up that section. Please go ahead!
I’ve been in that doc since AM. Will gladly take a break
@darshana ^^
here’s the outline we put together https://hackmd.io/CwVgTAJgnA7GBmBaAHBAjAI0cN8ooGMBmAU0XgAZp5M0woi0g===
I made a gif of the watchout snippet. I’m optimizing it now. had some troubles adding it in earlier. medium kept rejecting it.
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no rush. today is a slightly frenetic day for me. Getting ready to leave for providence..
oh good, i was wondering when you were heading out
train?
I’m having a hard time looking at medium after 5 hours of wework talk work. I’ll get to the DU talk tomorrow morning when my brain is fresh. Moving on to site content stuffs.
hitching a ride to boston with Henry and then train from there
so much more convenient
much!
nice to drive with friends
tell him “hello”
will do! Haven’t decided if we are going to drive tonight or tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning would be good. Then I can clean my house etc.
Soooooo many chores
awww
nice to come back to a clean house
yeah. So very much nicer.
I wanted to get the DU talk out before New Year bc I plan on sending an email to all the contacts to see what we can line up for next year. Since you’re busy, I’ll get feedback from folks in MUC and maybe Liz. We can always edit again once it is up. That okay with you?
can you explain more? email to all contacts
emailing the people i met in denver
also, I’ll take a look before that. Would always like to see stuff that we have worked onto together before it goes online.
ah! cool!!
I’ll take a look. Before New Year for sure.
Great! ty. will post tomorrow.
great! 🙂
can’t look at medium any more. on to the website and other low hanging fruit
probably going to go swim actually…sun came out
have fun!!!
it’s sunny here but sooooo cold
will do
thanks!
Created a speakerdeck account for CC to publish talks. Also trying out Issuu, cuz whyz not all the places https://speakerdeck.com/compositesco/creatively-re-imagining-our-futures-using-online-and-offline-participatory-models-and-tools
Speaker Deck
This talk presents ideas about how we can creatively re:imagine our futures, specifically the futures of our societies, using participatory models, collaborative models that are both on/offline. These ideas are ways in which core governance processes can change for more inclusion and effective problem-solving. This version of the talk was presented at Denver University Emergent Digital Practices.
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Tried out Issuu. I don’t think talks look good there. I do think it will be nice for project briefs and more designed content. Going to put all of our talks on Speakerdeck. Stuff looks nice there me thinks.
Issuu also messed up the page order
issuu
We employ complex systems research, design and technology, to build and strengthening participatory channels in organizations. We work with governments, businesses, universities, non-profits and communities.
speakerdeck looks good!!
can’t see ISSUU
it’s just a profile page. but LOL
that I can see 🙂
lol
that’s all we got
looks good
i deleted the thing i uploaded
it wasn’t very nice…pages were out of order
also, you like the new CC intro!!
glad you like speakerdeck!
i do 🙂
more to the point I think
yup!
i’m putting it out there!!
hehe
excellent!! Thanks for taking charge of this
no problem! it is calming my soul to get this stuff done
we are close!!
all the accounts are in lastpass if you need to make any changes to descriptions etc
we will have stuff up there by early next year for sure
I saw!! 🙂
you know it
lol
ha. never made it. i need to go in the AM. will go tomorrow
Just wanted to 👋 / say hi. Catching up on these threads and tasks post holidays… taking me a minute. hope all your holidays and travels are going welll / went well. xx :]
hi 👋🏾 how were you holidays?
They were jam packed and fun. My brothers and i executed a swell surprise antic (surprise = one of them visiting for the wknd). Nice to hang with them all. Now have some friends in town so running around which has been fun. How is your trip?
I went to the transit museum today, that place is great (though could use some major introductory context ihMO)
aww holidays are a great time for family surprises. Where do your brothers live?
i’ve never been but heard great things!
One’s in brooklyn. The other is in LA (so was him and his wife visiting)
Recommended!
he made the LA mass exodus, eh
i hear it’s freezing over there
uh yeah, it’s really cold. currently hiding out in bed stuy at a coffee shop afraid to go outside since the sun went down.
my trip is good. it’s chill af. getting to hang with grandma. i’m having a great time just getting to focus on projects. i just started a puzzle today (lol)…i go swimming in the ocean…planning a week trip to some beaches so i can completely isolate to finish the D&S application. power outages are the only bummer.
which coffee shop?!
outpost
i love outpost
such a good coffee shop. sometimes the music is off, but usually it’s a joy. feels multigenerational. plus its hella 🌈
it’s yummy and warm. so many good spots this way. i also really like this bougie plant place. stonefruit something something or other.
oh ya! i’ve jogged by that numerous times
yeaaah multigenerational is good point.
ya, bed stuy has good coffeeshops. there’s a couple on franklin i enjoy
i appreciate that in coffeeshop patronage
indeed. i wish nyc had a good 24 hour coffee shop like austin texas
ooo. that sounds nice, do they have multiple or just one stand out?
i swear it would be a hit. yaffa was my late night go to
ahh yaffa. I used to escape there in high school when i wanted to feel rebellious.
they have a few (lucky bastards). epoch is the one i hung out at
they closed recently yeah?
ah nice. I haven’t been to Austin, one day i’lll check it out.
yes :((
I’m into more late night options that aren’t only bars / clubs.
east village is…slowly swallowing its gems
aouuwyooie.
i wonder how much longer i’ll last downtown…bed stuy or ridgewood yard may call me soon
we shall see…i’m embarking on my collective buying project in 2018 🤞🏾
Aye. Yeah I need to think about a change up soon too. I do like two bridges area downtown (though it’s also being swallowed up ), otherwise bk.
Hm, collective buying project? whatare you looking at i?
that’s where i am now
two bridges. i’m fighting…don’t want to see it turn. it’s been home for 8 years. i love it.
i’d like to find a few friends/folks that would be interesting in purchasing a building. we’d used LLC model and divide up shares according to decided upon metrics (downpayment, repair costs, size, etc). i’m thinking to start by looking at foreclosures.
aye yeah. it’s a shame when it happens yet it happens. there have been smalls successes with groups organizing though though, but not sure how long that can withstand.
dream would be a storefront on the bottom and 2-3 floors agove
that sounds dreamy
two bridges has some formidable groups so we’ve come to find out. yeah, hence the need for coup de council hehe
i knw a guy who has a spot in ft greene that he just fixed up.
did he get a foreclosed building?
that’s like that. i’m not sure what he’s doing up top but he is finishing renovations on a community food space (w education.employment opps for local youth) in the storefront
dream!
that’s dope
i would love to visit it when i get back
right? he’s interested in building out a model, and incorporating tech into his retail concept so we’ve been talking (slowly). I’m due to swing by again soon, can let you know when i do if you wanna say hi.
that would be great
i’m slatted to be back on 17 jan
i still have not purchased my ticket lol
Nice way to be. I’ll keep that in mind and see what he’s up to in late Jan.
Are you enjoying your time?
Is this a family visit?
yeah, i’m chilling with my grandma. it’s been really nice minus the annoyances of the dominican republic.
i’m excited for my week trip to some beaches. thinking of going to an island that i’ve never been to / didn’t know existed
sounds like a nice break of pace. and piratey adventures are always fun. doo it.
overall, it is what i wanted: very few distractions, warm weather, and getting to spend time with abuelita
i think i will. i love waking up on the beach
my favorite part of mexico was waking up in front of the ocean for a week in tulum.
Mhm. sun and old people wisdom, ✨ things to soak up.
moving waters too.
yesss the best
last night my grandma was telling me stories about hurricane david that destroyed the island in 79
i will be happy to be back to see friends. the weather, on the other hand, i could do with out
oh wow, what did she say about it / anything about its role in shaping the now?
signing off-- nice to chat, enjoy the stories sun and adventure. xx
it didn’t directly have much to do with the now but we have been talking about different presidents and where things took a turn. she feels things were better under dictatoship. next convo i want to have is about the time when there were sanctions
indeed! chat soon
hope you get home warmly
Oh sounds like a juicy conversation, share more soon!
i’m recording them :))
yayy
hasta pronto 👋🏾
hasta luego
hi 👋🏾 how were you holidays?
They were jam packed and fun. My brothers and i executed a swell surprise antic (surprise = one of them visiting for the wknd). Nice to hang with them all. Now have some friends in town so running around which has been fun. How is your trip?
I went to the transit museum today, that place is great (though could use some major introductory context ihMO)
aww holidays are a great time for family surprises. Where do your brothers live?
i’ve never been but heard great things!
One’s in brooklyn. The other is in LA (so was him and his wife visiting)
Recommended!
he made the LA mass exodus, eh
i hear it’s freezing over there
uh yeah, it’s really cold. currently hiding out in bed stuy at a coffee shop afraid to go outside since the sun went down.
my trip is good. it’s chill af. getting to hang with grandma. i’m having a great time just getting to focus on projects. i just started a puzzle today (lol)…i go swimming in the ocean…planning a week trip to some beaches so i can completely isolate to finish the D&S application. power outages are the only bummer.
which coffee shop?!
outpost
i love outpost
such a good coffee shop. sometimes the music is off, but usually it’s a joy. feels multigenerational. plus its hella 🌈
it’s yummy and warm. so many good spots this way. i also really like this bougie plant place. stonefruit something something or other.
oh ya! i’ve jogged by that numerous times
yeaaah multigenerational is good point.
ya, bed stuy has good coffeeshops. there’s a couple on franklin i enjoy
i appreciate that in coffeeshop patronage
indeed. i wish nyc had a good 24 hour coffee shop like austin texas
ooo. that sounds nice, do they have multiple or just one stand out?
i swear it would be a hit. yaffa was my late night go to
ahh yaffa. I used to escape there in high school when i wanted to feel rebellious.
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they have a few (lucky bastards). epoch is the one i hung out at
they closed recently yeah?
ah nice. I haven’t been to Austin, one day i’lll check it out.
yes :((
I’m into more late night options that aren’t only bars / clubs.
east village is…slowly swallowing its gems
aouuwyooie.
i wonder how much longer i’ll last downtown…bed stuy or ridgewood yard may call me soon
we shall see…i’m embarking on my collective buying project in 2018 🤞🏾
Aye. Yeah I need to think about a change up soon too. I do like two bridges area downtown (though it’s also being swallowed up ), otherwise bk.
Hm, collective buying project? whatare you looking at i?
that’s where i am now
two bridges. i’m fighting…don’t want to see it turn. it’s been home for 8 years. i love it.
i’d like to find a few friends/folks that would be interesting in purchasing a building. we’d used LLC model and divide up shares according to decided upon metrics (downpayment, repair costs, size, etc). i’m thinking to start by looking at foreclosures.
aye yeah. it’s a shame when it happens yet it happens. there have been smalls successes with groups organizing though though, but not sure how long that can withstand.
dream would be a storefront on the bottom and 2-3 floors agove
that sounds dreamy
two bridges has some formidable groups so we’ve come to find out. yeah, hence the need for coup de council hehe
i knw a guy who has a spot in ft greene that he just fixed up.
did he get a foreclosed building?
that’s like that. i’m not sure what he’s doing up top but he is finishing renovations on a community food space (w education.employment opps for local youth) in the storefront
dream!
that’s dope
i would love to visit it when i get back
right? he’s interested in building out a model, and incorporating tech into his retail concept so we’ve been talking (slowly). I’m due to swing by again soon, can let you know when i do if you wanna say hi.
that would be great
i’m slatted to be back on 17 jan
i still have not purchased my ticket lol
Nice way to be. I’ll keep that in mind and see what he’s up to in late Jan.
Are you enjoying your time?
Is this a family visit?
yeah, i’m chilling with my grandma. it’s been really nice minus the annoyances of the dominican republic.
i’m excited for my week trip to some beaches. thinking of going to an island that i’ve never been to / didn’t know existed
sounds like a nice break of pace. and piratey adventures are always fun. doo it.
overall, it is what i wanted: very few distractions, warm weather, and getting to spend time with abuelita
i think i will. i love waking up on the beach
my favorite part of mexico was waking up in front of the ocean for a week in tulum.
Mhm. sun and old people wisdom, ✨ things to soak up.
moving waters too.
yesss the best
last night my grandma was telling me stories about hurricane david that destroyed the island in 79
i will be happy to be back to see friends. the weather, on the other hand, i could do with out
oh wow, what did she say about it / anything about its role in shaping the now?
signing off-- nice to chat, enjoy the stories sun and adventure. xx
it didn’t directly have much to do with the now but we have been talking about different presidents and where things took a turn. she feels things were better under dictatoship. next convo i want to have is about the time when there were sanctions
indeed! chat soon
hope you get home warmly
Oh sounds like a juicy conversation, share more soon!
i’m recording them :))
yayy
hasta pronto 👋🏾
hasta luego
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