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dzn 03:34:47

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dzn 03:34:47

@darshana set the channel purpose: Daily reports and discussions of vnyc progress will be found on this channel. Tune in here to stay on the pulse.

itsmisscs 03:34:47

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itsmisscs 03:36:30

🙌🏾 holler

itsmisscs 03:39:08

i must go get food and coffee. i’ll be joining up again in 10-15

dzn 03:42:45

@itsmisscs fancy seeing you here

itsmisscs 04:19:22

itsmisscs 04:19:41

tehehe

dzn 04:29:34

hahahaha. Nyan cat!!!

itsmisscs 05:22:22

@darshana Still very much in progress with layout but wanted to give you something to take a look through. If this early of a state isn’t helpful, let me know.

itsmisscs 05:22:24

http://concerned-smoke.surge.sh/

itsmisscs 05:25:22

Mobile/small screen is probably the better view for now.

dzn 05:27:07

It is helpful. I’ll change some of the content wording and ordering to make it work better

dzn 05:27:16

are the pictures stop-gap?

dzn 05:28:36

also, let’s have taking and making a survey match up in layout? maybe flip the picture/text order to add some contrast?

itsmisscs 05:28:51

haven’t added images yet

itsmisscs 05:28:57

i will get to that

dzn 05:29:00

also also, I think the steps to take a survey should go on another page

dzn 05:29:30

I like our usual cyber democracy image for the top one

itsmisscs 05:29:40

not sure if we have credit for that…

itsmisscs 05:29:51

as a public project we can’t use images without permission

itsmisscs 05:30:28

for now, focus on content. i’ll get another version with images and links over to you

dzn 05:30:41

let’s write to artist and maybe he gives up permission?

itsmisscs 05:30:48

go for it 🙂

dzn 05:31:10

cool

itsmisscs 05:31:18

i endorse this plan 👍🏾

dzn 05:32:41

saw the layout suggestions?

dzn 05:32:55

for the taking a survey and making a survey parts?

itsmisscs 05:37:01

i feel like i’ve missed something

itsmisscs 05:37:03

where?

dzn 05:37:45

the taking a survey and making a survey bits look different

dzn 05:37:51

in layout

itsmisscs 05:38:10

i don’t remember but i’m also not done with layout yet 😉

dzn 05:38:11

the second part still undone?

itsmisscs 05:38:13

yes

dzn 05:38:18

ah cool

dzn 05:38:21

that makes sense

itsmisscs 05:38:23

i just wanted to get it to you for content review

dzn 05:39:13

yep

dzn 05:55:52

went through the content and fixed some things

dzn 05:56:30

the changes are *the underlined bold* parts

itsmisscs 07:02:05

awesome.

itsmisscs 07:02:10

there are the tampons mitra ate

itsmisscs 07:02:18

in her vomit

itsmisscs 07:06:13

i am confused about L47…the take a survey portion. you’ll notice that i started to move content that’s linking out to a new pad.

itsmisscs 07:06:41

can you move the take a survey content that you envison on a new page to either a new pad or https://pad.riseup.net/p/take-polis-survey?

itsmisscs 07:06:52

thank you! i will update the prototype accordingly

itsmisscs 07:08:00

if you could do that for the reminder of that page, would be great. i’m not entirely sure i capture the content correctly.

dzn 07:25:32

hey. I’m back

dzn 07:25:45

you mean, take a survey and make a survey instructions??

dzn 07:26:53

L47 in which pad?

itsmisscs 07:29:41

i am having a hard time parsing what goes on the homepage and what’s another page

itsmisscs 07:29:57

so if you could move new page content to another pad or use https://pol.is/createuser, would be helpful

dzn 07:31:48

sure. I’ll spit into home page and the rest

itsmisscs 07:35:06

🙏🏾 danke

dzn 07:35:24

🙂

dzn 07:35:29

home page — https://pad.riseup.net/p/talktonyc-website-homepage

dzn 07:36:15

how does this look?

itsmisscs 07:39:33

👍🏾

itsmisscs 07:40:10

are these all the other pages then: https://pad.riseup.net/p/take-polis-survey?

itsmisscs 07:40:19

seems to be missing privacy

dzn 07:45:54

wait, I’m confused now. don’t each of those sections lead to another page? One for each section? The pad you sent doesn’t have most of the content stuff in there.

dzn 07:46:48

how do you want me to organize content for ease? Each header will have a content page is what I thought

itsmisscs 07:53:43

maybe we can make a site map quickly?

itsmisscs 07:54:03

i moved content out that represents pages into a separate pad because it was hard to distinguish

dzn 07:54:15

site map sounds good

dzn 07:54:49

Also, some of that text can be swapped with the screenshot instructions

itsmisscs 07:55:01

that’s not as advisable

itsmisscs 07:55:11

better to have text for accessibility and search engines

dzn 07:55:11

both text and screenshot instrcutions?

dzn 07:55:15

cool

dzn 07:55:40

also, email to photographer of the NYC pic we like so much…

dzn 07:55:46

Dear Mr. Laforet,

We are huge fans of your work and would like to use one of your night over New York images on our website.

The website is for our non-commercial project, Talk to NYC, through which we are working to forge a stronger connection between NYC citizens and city decision makers by the introduction of participatory democracy tools into NYC governance.

Most happy to point you to the website and share any other details you would like to hear about.

Looking forward to hearing from you. Hoping you will consent to the use of your image.

Thanks!
Talk to NYC team, Darshana and Claudina

itsmisscs 07:56:12

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dzn 07:56:29

great. will send now. he has contact form on this website

itsmisscs 07:56:48

excellent

itsmisscs 07:57:07

i must take the dog out. i should also consider some food….meh

itsmisscs 07:57:41

car situation is a bummer…probably going to rent a car to get back to nyc for a few days then come back to pick up the car here

dzn 07:57:46

I braved the rain

dzn 07:57:50

mostly for my addiction

dzn 07:57:54

but air was good

dzn 07:58:02

ping when you are back

itsmisscs 07:58:02

not raining here….just very limited options within walking distance

itsmisscs 07:58:22

and now it is getting dark due to my delay…

dzn 07:59:18

saw Erin’s email? The one I sent you??

dzn 07:59:26

Let’s give a talk there?

itsmisscs 08:00:03

rituals lol

itsmisscs 08:00:05

sure

itsmisscs 08:00:25

another erin

itsmisscs 08:00:29

no shortage of staff

itsmisscs 08:01:00

taking the pup for a walk and my soul for a stroll

dzn 08:22:36

reminder — we should add our bios to the website

itsmisscs 22:56:47

Morning, updated http://concerned-smoke.surge.sh/. Top menu and footer are not done. Adding photos this AM. Will be ready to go first thing tomorrow, realistically if we don’t want to send things out late tonight

itsmisscs 22:57:07

I can send off all the emails early morning.

itsmisscs 22:57:43

Tried to push through last night and had to get some sleep. Bunch of car errands and needed to take mitra on a long walk.

itsmisscs 22:58:10

Sorry this is delayed 😞 Between not feeling well and pol.is mocks my schedule got pushed out

dzn 23:01:39

Morning! Stand up?

itsmisscs 23:02:11

si si

itsmisscs 23:02:23

will call you from DM channel since we can’t start one here

itsmisscs 23:02:37

we will have to move to another service if other folks want to join standup. bummer

itsmisscs 23:39:26

✅ standup 🙌🏾

itsmisscs 23:49:54

@darshana : a grid like this with each survey. an icon and name…clicking it takes folks to survey page. i say we embed the polis surveys on talkto

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dzn 23:50:21

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dzn 23:50:24

agree!!

itsmisscs 23:50:36

dzn 23:52:02

itsmisscs 23:55:45

ah! what one is that?

dzn 00:00:01

boogie penguin 😄

itsmisscs 00:04:39

excellent

itsmisscs 00:20:07

@darshana event tonight https://civichall.org/events/reboot-citizen-engagement/

itsmisscs 00:20:43

I wish I was in town

dzn 00:21:42

I will go! This is good

dzn 00:29:48

RSVP’ed for the event. We will have the website by then, that will be good!!

dzn 00:30:24

think I should try to get a talk in?

dzn 00:30:31

can’t hurt, right?

itsmisscs 00:48:36

can’t hurt!

itsmisscs 00:50:18

we can def have a solid homepage up. and decent looking interior pages

itsmisscs 01:08:37

@darshana couple things for future

itsmisscs 01:09:08

for screenshots: we need to share a folder, zip, or put them on trello card. it is impossible to pull images from google slides :stuck_out_tongue:

dzn 01:09:41

damn! ok. we will do this differently

itsmisscs 01:09:49

also, i highly highly recommend evernote clip functionality. over mac’s screenshot capture

itsmisscs 01:10:00

i’ll take a couple shots of what i think could work in each of those

dzn 01:10:14

cool! I’ll keep that in mind

itsmisscs 01:10:17

i wish we had more engaging illustrations but we will make due

itsmisscs 01:11:22

all good 🙂 figuring out what tools work best

itsmisscs 01:11:46

also thinking it would be good to have a short blurb under “Understanding the people in order to make more effective decisions.” headline

itsmisscs 01:12:26

something like “From government officials to city planners…”

itsmisscs 01:12:47

state whom the tool is for

itsmisscs 01:13:09

and the more i read those boxes the more i think we could combine the content…there are two for templates that can be combined

dzn 01:18:35

I don’t want to dictate who uses it but get your point for sure

dzn 01:18:39

How about…

dzn 01:18:57

A working nervous system for society. Crowdsourcing information in order to make effective decisions.

dzn 01:19:45

Soon after that they see ‘get started on your own survey’

dzn 01:19:54

between those two points it should be clear

dzn 01:21:54

sending icons your way..

dzn 01:22:01

crowdsourcing — https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=crowdsourcing&i=27466

dzn 01:25:05

participation — https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=participate&i=43181

dzn 01:31:16

connecting orgs — https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=connecting&i=951718

dzn 01:31:42

connecting option 2 — https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=connecting&i=41039

dzn 01:33:04

open data — https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=open%20data&i=38245

dzn 01:39:28

the about page — https://pad.riseup.net/p/website-about-page

itsmisscs 01:48:36

I love “A working nervous system for society” but i don’t like it for copy on a site for people
’

itsmisscs 01:49:42

simple and clear and calling out some people that can benefit from making a survey feels good. we need to be inviting and open to all.

itsmisscs 01:59:29

@darshana can about page also include aims of the project?

itsmisscs 01:59:39

I really like what talkto.tw does

dzn 01:59:47

ah. will look

dzn 02:00:44

I like!!

itsmisscs 02:00:47

for now because we dont’ have another site up, i’ll put in our bios but i’d love to see us move the page more in their direction

dzn 02:00:51

I will put something into that pad

itsmisscs 02:00:56

cool 🙂

dzn 02:01:27

it’s good to have our bios. people will want to know who we are

itsmisscs 02:01:54

emily got back to us

itsmisscs 02:02:13

yup yup agreed…bios should move to the project site and company site eventually though.

itsmisscs 02:02:25

> Hi Darshana,

I was forwarded your request and would love to learn more about what you’re working on!
What is the best way to learn more?

Best,
Emily

dzn 02:02:32

Just saw!

dzn 02:02:54

whats to send? 🤔

dzn 02:03:06

when do you think website will be ready?

itsmisscs 02:03:33

that’s a loaded question. i would not count on it. i’m getting screenshots now so homepage doesn’t look so bare

itsmisscs 02:03:41

but still have lots of work on interior pages.

itsmisscs 02:03:54

i was hoping to reduce that by including steps on homepage 😛

itsmisscs 02:04:42

my intial idea was to have a single page site..scope has kinda grown, but in a good way 🙂

itsmisscs 02:04:57

i would send links to our presentations

itsmisscs 02:05:12

and say our site is launching this week

dzn 02:05:38

sounds good

dzn 02:08:37

I’m going to create a third presentation with bits of our 2. Will do and then send over. I think that will be good

dzn 02:08:51

also, will be nice for them to see a presentation since that is our request

itsmisscs 02:09:00

image for Easy to Use. Open for Everyone?

dzn 02:09:04

*send over to you

dzn 02:10:05

depends. send me what you have in mind for one of the other sections in ‘take a survey’

dzn 02:10:14

I’ll riff off that 🙂

itsmisscs 02:11:45

we dont have many options

itsmisscs 02:13:05

help figuring them out or letting me know what you were thinking in terms of the screenshots you took would be helpful 🙂

itsmisscs 02:13:09

i’m at a loss for most of these tbh

dzn 02:13:14

we can use a pic of pol.is visualization

itsmisscs 02:13:36

yeah i have that

itsmisscs 02:13:38

but there are 6

itsmisscs 02:14:43

i’m going to change it up so the make section uses icons too.

dzn 02:15:58

was looking at talkto.taiwan for inspiration

dzn 02:16:00

thinking

dzn 02:16:01

…

itsmisscs 02:16:19

my thoughts are: 3 images from polis in the take section

itsmisscs 02:16:40

icons in make section and probably switch up formatting to be all in a row instead of stacked

dzn 02:16:49

the first 3 can use pol.is screenshots

dzn 02:16:57

for the make a survey, screenshot won’t really work

dzn 02:17:06

not of pol.is anyway

itsmisscs 02:17:39

ya, exactly why let’s use icons

itsmisscs 02:18:25

eventually the first four can be switched for images with an overlay. it’ll add a bit of depth and humaness to the site

itsmisscs 02:22:14

ooo cute open data icon

itsmisscs 02:31:20

lol buzzword icon collection from Duke uni

dzn 02:36:13

I know!! the open data one is so cute

dzn 02:36:19

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pv116bNTwFK9PR8FIsXaD22l4ReDe4qlVQemoOi5TBQ/edit#slide=id.g24a4bdfbe1_0_91

dzn 02:36:35

sending this presentation to Civic Hall

dzn 02:36:45

check it out?

dzn 02:37:58

if no time, that’s fine. I’ll send away

dzn 02:38:24

It’s just a combination of v-Taiwan stuff from first presentation and our work from the second

dzn 02:38:32

gives them a better picture I think

itsmisscs 02:38:51

looking

itsmisscs 02:39:32

looks great

itsmisscs 02:39:47

made one edit on title slide…removed betanyc mention for now

itsmisscs 02:39:53

looks goooooood

itsmisscs 02:40:02

noice. pro slide maker

dzn 02:41:00

good catch

dzn 02:41:23

lol. shake and bake 😉

itsmisscs 02:41:45

mention talkto.nyc?

itsmisscs 02:41:57

or holding off?

itsmisscs 02:42:30

*finges crossed* will be great if you can present!!

dzn 02:43:48

send me screenshot and I will add a slide

dzn 02:44:09

after our pol.is bit

dzn 02:44:47

or in the share data openly bit

dzn 02:44:59

we do have a media icon after all

itsmisscs 02:46:50

thoughts for participation? https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=team&i=969506

itsmisscs 02:47:51

the hands in a circle bit 🏕️

itsmisscs 02:48:07

this one https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=team&i=1182728

itsmisscs 02:48:24

will be neat to make our own eventually and keep the pulse theme…so many desires. where’s the team hehe

dzn 02:49:25

not even a dash of Kumbaya???

dzn 02:49:30

😢

itsmisscs 02:49:41

https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=team&i=850702

dzn 02:49:55

that is good!!

dzn 02:50:11

i like like

itsmisscs 02:50:18

https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=team&i=884718

dzn 02:50:25

send me a screenshot for talktonyc, no?

dzn 02:50:33

I’ll put it in slides

itsmisscs 02:50:38

sure let me put in the photo we like

dzn 02:50:43

cool 🙂

itsmisscs 02:50:48

let me put this icon in!!!

itsmisscs 02:50:59

which one…send me link

dzn 02:51:07

I’ll write out the aims so we can put that in speaker notes

dzn 02:51:20

https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=team&i=850702

dzn 02:51:37

let’s put that in connecting

itsmisscs 02:51:56

wait that was for participating

itsmisscs 02:52:12

does work better for connecting though.

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