#web3-da0

2022-09-01
n0ah 06:03:41
Hi all, 這是 da0 DAO 第一次討論會議記錄跟 action items
會議記錄:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2F7XQR2nmHQ4iGx00um7zhIQ

Action items :
• 社群訪談研究 : Noah, @isabelhou, @mashbean@mashbean
• 工具及市場案例研究 : @taipeicity.eth @stamford.hwang
Next session
• 對進度與時程
• 模擬想像目標與終點
• 短期目標(是否是 10/21 產出計畫?)
@isabelhou @mashbean@mashbean 我想比較實際做 user research 可能還是得花個至少兩到三週,兩位的時間怎麼樣?我可以多做些實記得面談,如果時間少的話可以幫忙找訪談的人也很好,看看我們怎麼分配

@taipeicity.eth @stamford.hwang 如果有什麼需要協助再跟我說,因為 user research 會需要一些時間,我們可以看一下下週你們進度怎麼樣再來看接下來怎麼排程

我們下週可以討論一下大家對 da0 DAO 的目標想像,有時間可以先想一下,很期待聽大家的想法 :+1:
要不要週六下午基礎松來拉人談?可以先生一個問卷草稿。
我週六可能有點困難,得跟家人在一起,但也許是個詢問誰可以做面談的時機?我可以先做個面談簡介也寫一下內容💪 你們覺得如何
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 09:53:28
我可以代打!可能今天晚點在 NPO HUB 討論看看?
沒問題,我們討論完再跟 @isabelhou 報告
不是報告啦,寫個hackmd 讓所有人可以 sync
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 11:34:45
是的船長XD
n0ah 06:03:41
Hi all, 這是 da0 DAO 第一次討論會議記錄跟 action items
會議記錄:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2F7XQR2nmHQ4iGx00um7zhIQ

Action items :
• 社群訪談研究 : Noah, @isabelhou, @mashbean@mashbean
• 工具及市場案例研究 : @taipeicity.eth @stamford.hwang
Next session
• 對進度與時程
• 模擬想像目標與終點
• 短期目標(是否是 10/21 產出計畫?)
@isabelhou @mashbean@mashbean 我想比較實際做 user research 可能還是得花個至少兩到三週,兩位的時間怎麼樣?我可以多做些實記得面談,如果時間少的話可以幫忙找訪談的人也很好,看看我們怎麼分配

@taipeicity.eth @stamford.hwang 如果有什麼需要協助再跟我說,因為 user research 會需要一些時間,我們可以看一下下週你們進度怎麼樣再來看接下來怎麼排程

我們下週可以討論一下大家對 da0 DAO 的目標想像,有時間可以先想一下,很期待聽大家的想法 :+1:
HackMD
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要不要週六下午基礎松來拉人談?可以先生一個問卷草稿。
我週六可能有點困難,得跟家人在一起,但也許是個詢問誰可以做面談的時機?我可以先做個面談簡介也寫一下內容💪 你們覺得如何
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 09:53:28
我可以代打!可能今天晚點在 NPO HUB 討論看看?
沒問題,我們討論完再跟 @isabelhou 報告
不是報告啦,寫個hackmd 讓所有人可以 sync
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 11:34:45
是的船長XD
isabelhou 07:35:29
要不要週六下午基礎松來拉人談?可以先生一個問卷草稿。
n0ah 07:59:20
我週六可能有點困難,得跟家人在一起,但也許是個詢問誰可以做面談的時機?我可以先做個面談簡介也寫一下內容💪 你們覺得如何
mashbean 豆泥 09:53:28
我可以代打!可能今天晚點在 NPO HUB 討論看看?
n0ah 11:33:22
沒問題,我們討論完再跟 @isabelhou 報告
isabelhou 11:34:29
不是報告啦,寫個hackmd 讓所有人可以 sync
mashbean 豆泥 11:34:45
是的船長XD
n0ah 11:49:27
早上我跟 @vivian.chen 和 Protocol Labs 的人開了個會(如果新人還不知道的話 PL 是 IPFS 跟 Filecoin 的團隊,我們對到的是他們的研究單位)對齊一些動機與共識,跟大家報告一下

這是我們給的 Deck https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1IgKKweG_g8KqwP0-fbKexUqmJUXX4Xf81zVfkskn1zI/edit

針對我們的幾個提案 PL 給了一些想法,這邊我寫結論也 tag 相關的成員

da0 研討會,給 @isabelhou @hcchien407 @mashbean@mashbean @stamford.hwang @au @taipeicity.eth @billy3321
研討會也是 PL 的最優先事項之一,十月會線上出席,十一月實體出席,目前正在確認人選。明年亞洲 Funding the Commons 樂觀與我們合辦,現在每兩週會議主要推進這件事,這些一直是確認的,沒有太大問題。

Impact certificates / Hypercerts 給 @mashbean@mashbean @isabelhou
我們走得比他們快了,他們現在還在封閉式高成功率的 PoC 階段,有鑒於這個實驗如果成功未來可以長得很大,我們現在可以參與的方式是幫他們找類似這樣的實驗案例或場域,這可能得跟 Isabel 多聊一下

DeSoc @stamford.hwang @taipeicity.eth @isabelhou @mashbean@mashbean @ronnywang @vivian.chen @tom4996131207 DID 與 SBT 這目前不是 PL 最重視的事,但他們可以介接到最核心在討論 DeSoc 的人(譬如說論文撰寫者 Puja 等),我正在請他介紹看是否有機會可以請人來當 advisor

如果有問題再跟我說~
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 12:11:47
讚到爆!沒有任何問題
HyperCert 如何與在地策群、視覺設計是我很關心的事,please count me in!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-01 12:12:13
讚鼠!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-01 12:13:14
@mashbean 是在偷偷累積你的 emoji 數嗎 嘿嘿
amazing deck!!!
very helpful for our discussion cc @stamford.hwang
So excited to build this!!!
will be interesting to brainstorm / discuss what the vision and values are for da0 as well to inform some of the tooling / structure ideas and incentive designs 🙂
@taipeicity.eth Totally open and up for discussion, that is just a version I did for the purpose of connecting current dots and to give PL a sense on what we are doing, it can definitely be an open discussion, let’s also discuss this in our next meeting, I actually put sth similar in the agenda already
thanks for this~ deck looks great!
n0ah 11:49:27
早上我跟 @vivian.chen 和 Protocol Labs 的人開了個會(如果新人還不知道的話 PL 是 IPFS 跟 Filecoin 的團隊,我們對到的是他們的研究單位)對齊一些動機與共識,跟大家報告一下

這是我們給的 Deck https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1IgKKweG_g8KqwP0-fbKexUqmJUXX4Xf81zVfkskn1zI/edit

針對我們的幾個提案 PL 給了一些想法,這邊我寫結論也 tag 相關的成員

da0 研討會,給 @isabelhou @hcchien407 @mashbean@mashbean @stamford.hwang @au @taipeicity.eth @billy3321
研討會也是 PL 的最優先事項之一,十月會線上出席,十一月實體出席,目前正在確認人選。明年亞洲 Funding the Commons 樂觀與我們合辦,現在每兩週會議主要推進這件事,這些一直是確認的,沒有太大問題。

Impact certificates / Hypercerts 給 @mashbean@mashbean @isabelhou
我們走得比他們快了,他們現在還在封閉式高成功率的 PoC 階段,有鑒於這個實驗如果成功未來可以長得很大,我們現在可以參與的方式是幫他們找類似這樣的實驗案例或場域,這可能得跟 Isabel 多聊一下

DeSoc @stamford.hwang @taipeicity.eth @isabelhou @mashbean@mashbean @ronnywang @vivian.chen @tom4996131207 DID 與 SBT 這目前不是 PL 最重視的事,但他們可以介接到最核心在討論 DeSoc 的人(譬如說論文撰寫者 Puja 等),我正在請他介紹看是否有機會可以請人來當 advisor

如果有問題再跟我說~
da0<>PL
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mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 12:11:47
讚到爆!沒有任何問題
HyperCert 如何與在地策群、視覺設計是我很關心的事,please count me in!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-01 12:12:13
讚鼠!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-01 12:13:14
@mashbean 是在偷偷累積你的 emoji 數嗎 嘿嘿
amazing deck!!!
very helpful for our discussion cc @stamford.hwang
So excited to build this!!!
will be interesting to brainstorm / discuss what the vision and values are for da0 as well to inform some of the tooling / structure ideas and incentive designs 🙂
@taipeicity.eth Totally open and up for discussion, that is just a version I did for the purpose of connecting current dots and to give PL a sense on what we are doing, it can definitely be an open discussion, let’s also discuss this in our next meeting, I actually put sth similar in the agenda already
thanks for this~ deck looks great!
mashbean 豆泥 12:11:47
讚到爆!沒有任何問題
HyperCert 如何與在地策群、視覺設計是我很關心的事,please count me in!
Vivian Chen 12:12:13
讚鼠!
Vivian Chen 12:13:14
@mashbean 是在偷偷累積你的 emoji 數嗎 嘿嘿
Jacky 12:37:00
amazing deck!!!
Jacky 12:37:22
very helpful for our discussion cc @stamford.hwang
Jacky 12:37:38
So excited to build this!!!
Jacky 12:53:19
will be interesting to brainstorm / discuss what the vision and values are for da0 as well to inform some of the tooling / structure ideas and incentive designs 🙂
n0ah 12:55:07
@taipeicity.eth Totally open and up for discussion, that is just a version I did for the purpose of connecting current dots and to give PL a sense on what we are doing, it can definitely be an open discussion, let’s also discuss this in our next meeting, I actually put sth similar in the agenda already
Peter 15:31:10
大家好,我是g0v podcast 的主持人群成員peter<
Peter 15:31:10
大家好,我是g0v podcast 的主持人群成員peter<
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n0ah 15:31:22
@isabelhou 我開車的時候多想了一下怎麼回答妳說 web3 跟 web2 的 ID 或 badge 系統有什麼不同,這邊也貼上來因為我想很多人可能有同樣的問題或是更好的答案

我覺得一句話講是因為 web3 能更有效的做到「公平基礎上的堆疊與激勵」,公平基礎指的是 soul 有機會做到 ID 不會被女巫攻擊或產生其他投機漏洞(一般 web3 項目沒有 soul,所以不是很公平),堆疊是 web2 做不到的(API 的彈性及空間是有限的,或是被控制的),激勵上 web3 因為能創造開放貨幣/資產而不是封閉點數所以比 web2 更有激勵效果,這是我覺得比較完整的答案

歡迎大家也提供自己的答案,堆疊!
n0ah 15:31:22
@isabelhou 我開車的時候多想了一下怎麼回答妳說 web3 跟 web2 的 ID 或 badge 系統有什麼不同,這邊也貼上來因為我想很多人可能有同樣的問題或是更好的答案

我覺得一句話講是因為 web3 能更有效的做到「公平基礎上的堆疊與激勵」,公平基礎指的是 soul 有機會做到 ID 不會被女巫攻擊或產生其他投機漏洞(一般 web3 項目沒有 soul,所以不是很公平),堆疊是 web2 做不到的(API 的彈性及空間是有限的,或是被控制的),激勵上 web3 因為能創造開放貨幣/資產而不是封閉點數所以比 web2 更有激勵效果,這是我覺得比較完整的答案

歡迎大家也提供自己的答案,堆疊!
Peter 15:32:07
今天是我們podcast web3 集數的錄音日,原先規劃是針對web3 議題與社群關聯性做基礎介紹,不過在 Isabel 2k7
Peter 15:32:41
今天是我們podcast web3 集數的錄音日,原先規劃是針對web3 議題與社群關聯性做基礎介紹,不過在 Isabel 的建議下我調整了訪綱,方向會聚焦於十週年的活動上!
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Peter 15:32:41
今天是我們podcast web3 集數的錄音日,原先規劃是針對web3 議題與社群關聯性做基礎介紹,不過在 Isabel 的建議下我調整了訪綱,方向會聚焦於十週年的活動上!
Peter 15:33:18
附上最新的訪綱內容,如果三位受訪者針對問題有疑問或想補充可以直接放在共筆上
好的非常感謝
不會~等等見!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-01 16:07:17
thank you! talk soon!!!
@sdfghj1001 在幾樓啊
4樓!
按門鈴進來上來四樓即可
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Peter 15:33:18
附上最新的訪綱內容,如果三位受訪者針對問題有疑問或想補充可以直接放在共筆上
好的非常感謝
不會~等等見!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-01 16:07:17
thank you! talk soon!!!
@sdfghj1001 在幾樓啊
4樓!
按門鈴進來上來四樓即可
💪💪💪
n0ah 15:33:41
好的非常感謝
Peter 15:34:58
不會~等等見!
Vivian Chen 16:07:17
thank you! talk soon!!!
n0ah 17:50:46
@sdfghj1001 在幾樓啊
Peter 17:51:02
4樓!
Peter 17:51:15
按門鈴進來上來四樓即可
n0ah 17:51:19
💪💪💪
Peter 19:22:13
Podcast 順利錄製完成!感謝大家!
感謝 Peter,想要合照
已轉!感謝 Noah!
沒問題!
Peter 19:22:13
Podcast 順利錄製完成!感謝大家!
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感謝 Peter,想要合照
已轉!感謝 Noah!
沒問題!
hcchien 20:04:47
大家有討論出人選跟主題,幫忙填表是沒問題的喔
hcchien 20:06:24
是說小遊戲是可以讓使用者填錢包位址,送成就 《沒有人PFP》的嗎? XD (但好像無法即時靈魂綁定
hcchien 20:07:37
看「如何讓社群願意加入」想到
n0ah 21:19:22
感謝 Peter,想要合照
Peter 21:19:54
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cant wait to hear it!!! wen launch?!
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 23:40:32
好票釀XD
I think will take a couple weeks? Thx for the support!
Peter 21:19:54
Analeigh Yao
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cant wait to hear it!!! wen launch?!
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-01 23:40:32
好票釀XD
I think will take a couple weeks? Thx for the support!
n0ah 21:20:01
對我這兩週可能也找時間跟你聊一下
n0ah 21:20:13
PFP 只是一種可能💪
Peter 21:20:24
已轉!感謝 Noah!
n0ah 21:20:33
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Gisele Chou 22:37:00
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Gisele Chou 22:47:36
Hello 大家好~我是Gisele (謝謝noah
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Hello 大家好~我是Gisele (謝謝noah
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Jacky 23:21:54
cant wait to hear it!!! wen launch?!
mashbean 豆泥 23:40:32
好票釀XD
n0ah 23:54:35
I think will take a couple weeks? Thx for the support!
2022-09-02
Stamford 05:18:07
thanks for this~ deck looks great!
n0ah 13:09:46
Hi all 這是今晚第六次研討會的文件,我先 tag 一下上週有 action items 的朋友,萬一大家想先編輯文件也很好,沒有也沒關係 @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @isabelhou @mashbean @billy3321
https://g0v.hackmd.io/z56uCvkTQvO51-FwmE3LVg?view
@hcchien407 你的部份有幫你貼上了,感謝!

一樣歡迎新手參與!旁聽也很好,如果有問題我最後可以留下來回答
n0ah 13:09:46
Hi all 這是今晚第六次研討會的文件,我先 tag 一下上週有 action items 的朋友,萬一大家想先編輯文件也很好,沒有也沒關係 @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @isabelhou @mashbean @billy3321
https://g0v.hackmd.io/z56uCvkTQvO51-FwmE3LVg?view
@hcchien407 你的部份有幫你貼上了,感謝!

一樣歡迎新手參與!旁聽也很好,如果有問題我最後可以留下來回答
Peter 13:27:05
沒問題!
isabelhou 13:43:35
Ronnywang
好奇問個 ipfs 的技術問題。我本來以為 ipfs 是只要建立 node ,整個 ipfs 的其他 nodes 就會自動分散你的檔案達到讓檔案可以永久被儲存的效果,但剛剛稍微再看了一下,好像他並不會自動,還是要有人下載這個檔案,他才會分擔儲存?那如果都沒人下載的話,這個檔案還是只存在於一個 node 而已不會主動被擴散嗎?
對我的理解是因為 IPFS 並沒有像 Filecoin 這樣的激勵機制去鼓勵下載分散,所以雖然共識是分擔儲存,但實際上可能常有漏洞,我不是技術的人但我下次碰到 IPFS 的人可以幫你問一下。但無論如何整個 web3 產業都同意 IPFS 不是最去中心化的作法,所以才會有像 onchain monkey 這樣的計畫 https://onchainmonkey.com/

如果有誰比較熟的也可以跳進來說一下。
@ronnywang
嗯,我研究的結論也是 IPFS 本身並無法保證資料真的永久不消失,所以要靠 Filecoin 這種外部的誘因鼓勵人提供自己硬碟空間幫助這件事
對只能說他資料消失的機率比較低而已
arweave siacoin 也可以參考,跟 Filecoin 類似
我的理解 ipfs 跟 filecoin, arweave, siacoin 是兩個不同層面的東西,前者是檔案系統,後者是提供誘因的數位貨幣。前者才可以存放資料,後者無法存放資料,但是他讓礦工提供自己的硬碟空間協助前者存放資料
Filecoin 是ipfs的激勵層
Yes 🙌 onchain monkey 另一方面就直接寫在以太上,因為資料量小
我假如希望我的資料在 ipfs 盡可能達到永久存在,我就要花費 filecoin, arweave 或 siacoin 來鼓勵礦工幫我存資料
isabelhou 13:43:35
Ronnywang
好奇問個 ipfs 的技術問題。我本來以為 ipfs 是只要建立 node ,整個 ipfs 的其他 nodes 就會自動分散你的檔案達到讓檔案可以永久被儲存的效果,但剛剛稍微再看了一下,好像他並不會自動,還是要有人下載這個檔案,他才會分擔儲存?那如果都沒人下載的話,這個檔案還是只存在於一個 node 而已不會主動被擴散嗎?
對我的理解是因為 IPFS 並沒有像 Filecoin 這樣的激勵機制去鼓勵下載分散,所以雖然共識是分擔儲存,但實際上可能常有漏洞,我不是技術的人但我下次碰到 IPFS 的人可以幫你問一下。但無論如何整個 web3 產業都同意 IPFS 不是最去中心化的作法,所以才會有像 onchain monkey 這樣的計畫 https://onchainmonkey.com/

如果有誰比較熟的也可以跳進來說一下。
@ronnywang
嗯,我研究的結論也是 IPFS 本身並無法保證資料真的永久不消失,所以要靠 Filecoin 這種外部的誘因鼓勵人提供自己硬碟空間幫助這件事
對只能說他資料消失的機率比較低而已
arweave siacoin 也可以參考,跟 Filecoin 類似
我的理解 ipfs 跟 filecoin, arweave, siacoin 是兩個不同層面的東西,前者是檔案系統,後者是提供誘因的數位貨幣。前者才可以存放資料,後者無法存放資料,但是他讓礦工提供自己的硬碟空間協助前者存放資料
Filecoin 是ipfs的激勵層
Yes 🙌 onchain monkey 另一方面就直接寫在以太上,因為資料量小
我假如希望我的資料在 ipfs 盡可能達到永久存在,我就要花費 filecoin, arweave 或 siacoin 來鼓勵礦工幫我存資料
n0ah 13:49:27
對我的理解是因為 IPFS 並沒有像 Filecoin 這樣的激勵機制去鼓勵下載分散,所以雖然共識是分擔儲存,但實際上可能常有漏洞,我不是技術的人但我下次碰到 IPFS 的人可以幫你問一下。但無論如何整個 web3 產業都同意 IPFS 不是最去中心化的作法,所以才會有像 onchain monkey 這樣的計畫 https://onchainmonkey.com/

如果有誰比較熟的也可以跳進來說一下。
isabelhou 13:49:52
@ronnywang
ronnywang 13:51:19
嗯,我研究的結論也是 IPFS 本身並無法保證資料真的永久不消失,所以要靠 Filecoin 這種外部的誘因鼓勵人提供自己硬碟空間幫助這件事
n0ah 13:51:46
對只能說他資料消失的機率比較低而已
n0ah 13:53:23
arweave siacoin 也可以參考,跟 Filecoin 類似
ronnywang 13:56:50
我的理解 ipfs 跟 filecoin, arweave, siacoin 是兩個不同層面的東西,前者是檔案系統,後者是提供誘因的數位貨幣。前者才可以存放資料,後者無法存放資料,但是他讓礦工提供自己的硬碟空間協助前者存放資料
isabelhou 13:57:56
Filecoin 是ipfs的激勵層
n0ah 13:58:47
Yes 🙌 onchain monkey 另一方面就直接寫在以太上,因為資料量小
ronnywang 13:58:48
我假如希望我的資料在 ipfs 盡可能達到永久存在,我就要花費 filecoin, arweave 或 siacoin 來鼓勵礦工幫我存資料
Jacky 14:40:18
hi hi 我今天在紐約跟 @stamford.hwang 聚了一下,聊了很多 DAO 。之後我就一直在想da0的東西,想說寫篇文記錄我目前在創立 DAOs 的一些經驗跟學到的東西,還沒發佈但想給各位參考看看,有什麼回饋拜託跟我說 🙏🏻

https://mirror.xyz/taipeicity.eth/VYHV1MNhztqmp513ZW_RtWzkbr1pdlXsJetnHt4vo70
Wonderful article! I’ll finish by today!
@taipeicity.eth this is amazing, yes let’s clarify on mission & goal in our next session, @isabelhou is there a charter of g0v? Here’s one for BZD so I’m just curious https://buzhidao.notion.site/DAO-Charter-90ac4db841fd4decafd41e7f560545ba . @taipeicity.eth I’m also interested in knowing more about the fundraising part, let’s chat some time soon
Vivian Chen 2022-09-02 17:07:30
Thanks for sharing! Always amazing to see someone actually producing valuable contents 🙂

Some thoughts:
• I would love to see more on how you go about the "WHY", namely the goal of a DAO. Instead of just starting a DAO for starting a DAO, how can people position themselves with an accurate mission statement that fits them the best?
• On tokenomics - If there's no token in place, is it still a DAO? What are the necessities for DAOs to have tokens? (Cuz people can def vote and participate without token, so why is this section important and how does it make a DAO different?)
yes I can elaborate more on the why! Tokens are just a tool for a DAO infrastructure to be built upon. It's better to delay launching a token imo until the use case is super clear, migration is costly and inconvenient. @noah226 had a great comment on why web3 from the last meeting - other than the obvious use case of rewards, governance and reputation, it is also permission-less system that anyone can build on top of, which is very inline with g0v's values
thanks for great feedback
the g0v charter looks amazing!
Jacky 14:40:18
hi hi 我今天在紐約跟 @stamford.hwang 聚了一下,聊了很多 DAO 。之後我就一直在想da0的東西,在想有什麼的 framework 可以用來思考,問什麼樣的問題,想說寫篇筆記記錄我目前在創立 DAOs 的一些經驗跟學到的東西,還沒發佈但想給各位參考看看,有什麼回饋拜託跟我說,感謝 🙏🏻

https://mirror.xyz/taipeicity.eth/VYHV1MNhztqmp513ZW_RtWzkbr1pdlXsJetnHt4vo70
mirror.xyz
After some experience with starting a few DAOs, being part of a few, seen some collapse, some blossom (Bu Zhi DAO), recently volunteered to help with another DAO with a great cause so wanted to write up a general yet opinionated framework for starting DAOs, thought it’d be a great idea to share publicly as well!
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Wonderful article! I’ll finish by today!
@taipeicity.eth this is amazing, yes let’s clarify on mission & goal in our next session, @isabelhou is there a charter of g0v? Here’s one for BZD so I’m just curious https://buzhidao.notion.site/DAO-Charter-90ac4db841fd4decafd41e7f560545ba . @taipeicity.eth I’m also interested in knowing more about the fundraising part, let’s chat some time soon
Vivian Chen 2022-09-02 17:07:30
Thanks for sharing! Always amazing to see someone actually producing valuable contents 🙂

Some thoughts:
• I would love to see more on how you go about the "WHY", namely the goal of a DAO. Instead of just starting a DAO for starting a DAO, how can people position themselves with an accurate mission statement that fits them the best?
• On tokenomics - If there's no token in place, is it still a DAO? What are the necessities for DAOs to have tokens? (Cuz people can def vote and participate without token, so why is this section important and how does it make a DAO different?)
yes I can elaborate more on the why! Tokens are just a tool for a DAO infrastructure to be built upon. It's better to delay launching a token imo until the use case is super clear, migration is costly and inconvenient. @noah226 had a great comment on why web3 from the last meeting - other than the obvious use case of rewards, governance and reputation, it is also permission-less system that anyone can build on top of, which is very inline with g0v's values
thanks for great feedback
the g0v charter looks amazing!
n0ah 14:53:26
Wonderful article! I’ll finish by today!
n0ah 15:54:32
@mashbean @isabelhou 我寫了一個簡單的面談筆記給你們參考 @vivian.chen 如果有時間幫忙也很好。筆記可以參考一下方向跟作法,有其他想法歡迎跟我討論,如果有不適當的也跟我說。抱歉明天沒辦法到場,一對一線上面談是我的偏好,週六可能是約人的時間。
一對多 focus group 也很好,也許週六可以做 👍 again 面談是個花時間的工作,大家不要有壓力,我們可以花三週時間,多丟些人給我也很好,我時間還可以拿捏得來
https://g0v.hackmd.io/nFT5T8-ITae5l8VBxejZJg?view
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n0ah 15:54:32
@mashbean @isabelhou 我寫了一個簡單的面談筆記給你們參考 @vivian.chen 如果有時間幫忙也很好。筆記可以參考一下方向跟作法,有其他想法歡迎跟我討論,如果有不適當的也跟我說。抱歉明天沒辦法到場,一對一線上面談是我的偏好,週六可能是約人的時間。
一對多 focus group 也很好,也許週六可以做 👍 again 面談是個花時間的工作,大家不要有壓力,我們可以花三週時間,多丟些人給我也很好,我時間還可以拿捏得來
https://g0v.hackmd.io/nFT5T8-ITae5l8VBxejZJg?view
n0ah 16:07:20
@taipeicity.eth this is amazing, yes let’s clarify on mission & goal in our next session, @isabelhou is there a charter of g0v? Here’s one for BZD so I’m just curious https://buzhidao.notion.site/DAO-Charter-90ac4db841fd4decafd41e7f560545ba . @taipeicity.eth I’m also interested in knowing more about the fundraising part, let’s chat some time soon
Vivian Chen 17:07:30
Thanks for sharing! Always amazing to see someone actually producing valuable contents 🙂

Some thoughts:
• I would love to see more on how you go about the "WHY", namely the goal of a DAO. Instead of just starting a DAO for starting a DAO, how can people position themselves with an accurate mission statement that fits them the best?
• On tokenomics - If there's no token in place, is it still a DAO? What are the necessities for DAOs to have tokens? (Cuz people can def vote and participate without token, so why is this section important and how does it make a DAO different?)
Vivian Chen 18:48:14
還在處理工作的事情,晚點如果來得及就會加入會議!
好的沒問題
Vivian Chen 18:48:14
還在處理工作的事情,晚點如果來得及就會加入會議!
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好的沒問題
n0ah 19:46:43
好的沒問題
n0ah 20:05:16
Hi all, 過一下 8:15PM 的會議,這次主要對一下上週的 action items,另外會稍微討論一下 Branding 問題

會議連結 https://meet.google.com/kzj-yixe-vao 如果有人進不來請一定跟我說,tag 一下有要會議日曆邀請的 @stamford.hwang @billy3321 @isabelhou @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @giselechou @tom4996131207@hcchien407 多謝會前提供資料

Web3x公共財 會議第6次討論會 會議筆記連結 https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2Fz56uCvkTQvO51-FwmE3LVg%3Fview

一如往常歡迎新手加入旁聽,有問題會後我可以留下來回答 :+1:
有空可以上來囉
@stamford.hwang @tom4996131207 我們先開始囉
我人還在外面😅
今早有點事,沒法參加,我去看一下會議筆記~
No problem 👌
n0ah 20:05:16
Hi all, 過一下 8:15PM 的會議,這次主要對一下上週的 action items,另外會稍微討論一下 Branding 問題

會議連結 https://meet.google.com/kzj-yixe-vao 如果有人進不來請一定跟我說,tag 一下有要會議日曆邀請的 @stamford.hwang @billy3321 @isabelhou @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @giselechou @tom4996131207@hcchien407 多謝會前提供資料

Web3x公共財 會議第6次討論會 會議筆記連結 https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2Fz56uCvkTQvO51-FwmE3LVg%3Fview

一如往常歡迎新手加入旁聽,有問題會後我可以留下來回答 :+1:
有空可以上來囉
@stamford.hwang @tom4996131207 我們先開始囉
我人還在外面😅
今早有點事,沒法參加,我去看一下會議筆記~
No problem 👌
Jacky 20:10:46
yes I can elaborate more on the why! Tokens are just a tool for a DAO infrastructure to be built upon. It's better to delay launching a token imo until the use case is super clear, migration is costly and inconvenient. @noah226 had a great comment on why web3 from the last meeting - other than the obvious use case of rewards, governance and reputation, it is also permission-less system that anyone can build on top of, which is very inline with g0v's values
Jacky 20:10:51
thanks for great feedback
Jacky 20:10:56
the g0v charter looks amazing!
n0ah 20:14:19
有空可以上來囉
n0ah 20:19:16
@stamford.hwang @tom4996131207 我們先開始囉
hcchien 20:52:35
Tkirby
文字一起爆炸感覺如何
hcchien 20:52:35
Tkirby
文字一起爆炸感覺如何
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huang06 20:54:59
我人還在外面😅
Jacky 21:07:25
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n0ah 21:37:55
感謝大家參加今天會議,會議紀錄在這
https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2Fz56uCvkTQvO51-FwmE3LVg%3Fview

我也把大家的 action item 寫在檔案最後,在這複製貼上

本週 action item
• Isabel 與 au 確認 10/22 及 11/19 是否可以出席
• Noah & Vivian 詢問高重建是否可以參與 10/21 Panel
• Vivian 確認 10/21 與 11/19 Gitcoin 參與情況
• Jacky 持續聯繫 Jesse
• Noah 與方舟確認餐飲與擺設
• Isabel 及豆泥確認直播廠商
• Noah & 豆泥產出幾種 logo 版本給大家選擇
• Gisele 介紹媒體窗口
• 豆泥把短講題目給 HC
• Noah 找 POAP 設計師 Stella 討論 POAP 製作,也確認 POAP 製作細節
• Noah 向 Stella 要原檔製作 da0零週年主視覺
Later
• Jacky podcast
• 豆泥 Austria 回來後再聯繫媒體
• 雨蒼等議程確認更新手冊
有問題再請大家隨時提出 👍
這個活動有目前可以對外用的 one pager 嗎?想用來邀請講師
目前還沒有, I can do it in a couple of days?
Would you be interested in inviting founders of Gitcoin virtually? or is that too similar to Leon? I can help ask, another concern is the time zone is not friendly for US west coast, 6-9 pm Taiwan is 3-6 am in California 😞
btw, have you guys heard of this platform? similar to poap but a bit cooler and better design haha https://mintkudos.xyz/
i can connect with founder if interested in this too, otherwise POAP works great too!
Yea Jacky the timezone does concern me too, we’ll have to figure that out.

@vivian.chen does know Scott but she thought Leon would be a better person to talk about Gitcoin passport as a starting point for DeSoc and DID

mintkudos looks amazing, I’ll do some more research on it. If you think we can try it I’d love to talk to the founders, I’m currently thinking if it’s possible for this to integrate into our future efforts with SBT and DID, on the other hand also wonder how many are using them, POAP does have some network effect that might or might not be relevant to our future endeavor, what do you think?
ok - that's perfect then!
Jesse said he can't make it 😞 but want to invite you guys to their next community call to connect, I'll forward the info over!
Sounds great thank you!
ill research on mintkudos vs poap too, and report back!
looks like some big institutions use them too

https://twitter.com/mintkudosXYZ
seems like a lot of use cases of educational focused
the founders are coming to TBW too so, let me ask/research about the value prop between mintkudos vs poap before suggesting it
the time of the event, probably more feasible for speakers living on East coast to speak around 8 or 8:30 am
wow that’s definitely big for them, sorry what’s TBW?

Time of event me and Vivian are definitely going to work on it, indeed seems unrealistic to have speakers wake up so early, there should be a couple of workarounds

thank you @taipeicity.eth, really appreciate having you around

I haven’t tried using kudos yet, a couple of quick thoughts
• I thought the peer-verified way is a clever way to make SBTs (or NTTs) credible, we should take that with us for future designs of DeSoc
• It seems we need to WL the wallet addresses first to use Kudos, this might be a little hard for physical event proof of attendance like the one we’re having, but I think this can be perfect for our future endeavors
• I still am a little fuzzy on structured SBTs vs completely open SBTs like Kudos, structured ones make it easier to build trust, unstructured ones make it easier to scale, maybe a mix can be a good solution, this might be clearer after our research
• With kudos APIs this should be pretty easy to build upon, loving it
For now if you agree I think because of the limitation with whitelisted wallets we might want to go for POAP for physical event this time, what do you think?
Actually no whitelist needed, there's another open claim option, if you're interested, I can connect the founder to run a demo for you and ask questions! (Or we can just use POAP haha up to you!)
Oh shit then we can probably try kudos 💪💪
its on polygon though, are we opinionated on what chain?
I think the community had a preference towards eco-friendly ones, other than that none. Optimism is one that has a strong culture on public goods, but that's just an observation 💪
Just minted! One potential problem w polygon or other L2 is it would require some MATICs or sth else, other than that seems quite perfect
And yes would love to chat with founder to understand its full potential, and how we can use it in the future 💪
Thank u Jacky!
補一個,想請 @isabelhou 幫忙確定hackmd能否開組織帳號,謝謝!
都到已更新
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:51:01
明天會跟 Gitcoin 聊!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:51:25
@noah226 如果你時間 ok 的話要不要加入?
好呀如果方便的話,你們是幾點啊 💪💪💪
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:52:09
還沒確定 XD
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:52:13
我正在問他
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:52:18
等我一下呦~~
🤣🤣🤣慢慢來
再跟我說 我下午不行,晚上九點有會議,其他都可以
ok ill make a group chat for us in telegram to book a meeting with mintkudos founder! anyone welcome to join if interested in learning more!
@noah226 any interest to have people from cityDAO talk?
@noah226 what's your email? I'll add you to thread with Jesse from city3 and OAK and his team. Even though he can't make it, still be nice for us to connect and learn what they are doing - they invited us to be a guest on their next community call - can include anyone else interested too!
Fantastic, noah@lostutopias.xyz thanks Jacky!
n0ah 21:37:55
感謝大家參加今天會議,會議紀錄在這
https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2Fz56uCvkTQvO51-FwmE3LVg%3Fview

我也把大家的 action item 寫在檔案最後,在這複製貼上

本週 action item
• Isabel 與 au 確認 10/22 及 11/19 是否可以出席
• Noah & Vivian 詢問高重建是否可以參與 10/21 Panel
• Vivian 確認 10/21 與 11/19 Gitcoin 參與情況
• Jacky 持續聯繫 Jesse
• Noah 與方舟確認餐飲與擺設
• Isabel 及豆泥確認直播廠商
• Noah & 豆泥產出幾種 logo 版本給大家選擇
• Gisele 介紹媒體窗口
• 豆泥把短講題目給 HC
• Noah 找 POAP 設計師 Stella 討論 POAP 製作,也確認 POAP 製作細節
• Noah 向 Stella 要原檔製作 da0零週年主視覺
Later
• Jacky podcast
• 豆泥 Austria 回來後再聯繫媒體
• 雨蒼等議程確認更新手冊
有問題再請大家隨時提出 👍
這個活動有目前可以對外用的 one pager 嗎?想用來邀請講師
目前還沒有, I can do it in a couple of days?
Would you be interested in inviting founders of Gitcoin virtually? or is that too similar to Leon? I can help ask, another concern is the time zone is not friendly for US west coast, 6-9 pm Taiwan is 3-6 am in California 😞
btw, have you guys heard of this platform? similar to poap but a bit cooler and better design haha https://mintkudos.xyz/
i can connect with founder if interested in this too, otherwise POAP works great too!
Yea Jacky the timezone does concern me too, we’ll have to figure that out.

@vivian.chen does know Scott but she thought Leon would be a better person to talk about Gitcoin passport as a starting point for DeSoc and DID

mintkudos looks amazing, I’ll do some more research on it. If you think we can try it I’d love to talk to the founders, I’m currently thinking if it’s possible for this to integrate into our future efforts with SBT and DID, on the other hand also wonder how many are using them, POAP does have some network effect that might or might not be relevant to our future endeavor, what do you think?
ok - that's perfect then!
Jesse said he can't make it 😞 but want to invite you guys to their next community call to connect, I'll forward the info over!
Sounds great thank you!
ill research on mintkudos vs poap too, and report back!
looks like some big institutions use them too

https://twitter.com/mintkudosXYZ
seems like a lot of use cases of educational focused
the founders are coming to TBW too so, let me ask/research about the value prop between mintkudos vs poap before suggesting it
the time of the event, probably more feasible for speakers living on East coast to speak around 8 or 8:30 am
wow that’s definitely big for them, sorry what’s TBW?

Time of event me and Vivian are definitely going to work on it, indeed seems unrealistic to have speakers wake up so early, there should be a couple of workarounds

thank you @taipeicity.eth, really appreciate having you around

I haven’t tried using kudos yet, a couple of quick thoughts
• I thought the peer-verified way is a clever way to make SBTs (or NTTs) credible, we should take that with us for future designs of DeSoc
• It seems we need to WL the wallet addresses first to use Kudos, this might be a little hard for physical event proof of attendance like the one we’re having, but I think this can be perfect for our future endeavors
• I still am a little fuzzy on structured SBTs vs completely open SBTs like Kudos, structured ones make it easier to build trust, unstructured ones make it easier to scale, maybe a mix can be a good solution, this might be clearer after our research
• With kudos APIs this should be pretty easy to build upon, loving it
For now if you agree I think because of the limitation with whitelisted wallets we might want to go for POAP for physical event this time, what do you think?
Actually no whitelist needed, there's another open claim option, if you're interested, I can connect the founder to run a demo for you and ask questions! (Or we can just use POAP haha up to you!)
Oh shit then we can probably try kudos 💪💪
its on polygon though, are we opinionated on what chain?
I think the community had a preference towards eco-friendly ones, other than that none. Optimism is one that has a strong culture on public goods, but that's just an observation 💪
Just minted! One potential problem w polygon or other L2 is it would require some MATICs or sth else, other than that seems quite perfect
And yes would love to chat with founder to understand its full potential, and how we can use it in the future 💪
Thank u Jacky!
補一個,想請 @isabelhou 幫忙確定hackmd能否開組織帳號,謝謝!
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Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:51:01
明天會跟 Gitcoin 聊!
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:51:25
@noah226 如果你時間 ok 的話要不要加入?
好呀如果方便的話,你們是幾點啊 💪💪💪
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:52:09
還沒確定 XD
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:52:13
我正在問他
Vivian Chen 2022-09-05 21:52:18
等我一下呦~~
🤣🤣🤣慢慢來
再跟我說 我下午不行,晚上九點有會議,其他都可以
ok ill make a group chat for us in telegram to book a meeting with mintkudos founder! anyone welcome to join if interested in learning more!
@noah226 any interest to have people from cityDAO talk?
@noah226 what's your email? I'll add you to thread with Jesse from city3 and OAK and his team. Even though he can't make it, still be nice for us to connect and learn what they are doing - they invited us to be a guest on their next community call - can include anyone else interested too!
Fantastic, noah@lostutopias.xyz thanks Jacky!
Stamford 21:54:28
今早有點事,沒法參加,我去看一下會議筆記~
n0ah 21:56:19
No problem 👌
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Jacky 23:16:38
這個活動有目前可以對外用的 one pager 嗎?想用來邀請講師
n0ah 23:28:31
目前還沒有, I can do it in a couple of days?
2022-09-03
Jacky 06:05:31
Would you be interested in inviting founders of Gitcoin virtually? or is that too similar to Leon? I can help ask, another concern is the time zone is not friendly for US west coast, 6-9 pm Taiwan is 3-6 am in California 😞
Jacky 06:06:36
btw, have you guys heard of this platform? similar to poap but a bit cooler and better design haha https://mintkudos.xyz/
Jacky 06:06:54
i can connect with founder if interested in this too, otherwise POAP works great too!
n0ah 13:24:39
Yea Jacky the timezone does concern me too, we’ll have to figure that out.

@vivian.chen does know Scott but she thought Leon would be a better person to talk about Gitcoin passport as a starting point for DeSoc and DID

mintkudos looks amazing, I’ll do some more research on it. If you think we can try it I’d love to talk to the founders, I’m currently thinking if it’s possible for this to integrate into our future efforts with SBT and DID, on the other hand also wonder how many are using them, POAP does have some network effect that might or might not be relevant to our future endeavor, what do you think?
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chihao 19:19:37
我正在整理 10 週年各項活動的資訊,有看到 10.21「da0 零時道研討會」的共筆,想問 10.22 的論壇(panel discussion 嗎)有獨立的一份共筆嗎?
在揪松論壇裡。
這個?找到了!
isabel ++ \o/
感謝@chihao
揪松論壇好帥氣喔
系列活動也會有個議程手冊,要等一成確定、名稱確定,就會開始製作。
@billy3321 系列活動是指什麼?
chihao 19:19:37
我正在整理 10 週年各項活動的資訊,有看到 10.21「da0 零時道研討會」的共筆,想問 10.22 的論壇(panel discussion 嗎)有獨立的一份共筆嗎?
在揪松論壇裡。
這個?找到了!
isabel ++ \o/
感謝@chihao
揪松論壇好帥氣喔
系列活動也會有個議程手冊,要等一成確定、名稱確定,就會開始製作。
@billy3321 系列活動是指什麼?
isabelhou 19:35:42
在揪松論壇裡。
chihao 19:36:23
這個?找到了!
chihao 19:36:31
isabel ++ \o/
isabelhou 19:37:01
感謝@chihao
chihao 19:37:04
揪松論壇好帥氣喔
Jacky 23:23:16
ok - that's perfect then!
Jacky 23:23:50
Jesse said he can't make it 😞 but want to invite you guys to their next community call to connect, I'll forward the info over!
n0ah 23:46:51
Sounds great thank you!
Jacky 23:50:59
ill research on mintkudos vs poap too, and report back!
Jacky 23:51:08
looks like some big institutions use them too

https://twitter.com/mintkudosXYZ
Jacky 23:51:39
seems like a lot of use cases of educational focused
Jacky 23:56:54
the founders are coming to TBW too so, let me ask/research about the value prop between mintkudos vs poap before suggesting it
2022-09-04
Jacky 00:35:22
the time of the event, probably more feasible for speakers living on East coast to speak around 8 or 8:30 am
n0ah 05:19:23
wow that’s definitely big for them, sorry what’s TBW?

Time of event me and Vivian are definitely going to work on it, indeed seems unrealistic to have speakers wake up so early, there should be a couple of workarounds

thank you @taipeicity.eth, really appreciate having you around

I haven’t tried using kudos yet, a couple of quick thoughts
• I thought the peer-verified way is a clever way to make SBTs (or NTTs) credible, we should take that with us for future designs of DeSoc
• It seems we need to WL the wallet addresses first to use Kudos, this might be a little hard for physical event proof of attendance like the one we’re having, but I think this can be perfect for our future endeavors
• I still am a little fuzzy on structured SBTs vs completely open SBTs like Kudos, structured ones make it easier to build trust, unstructured ones make it easier to scale, maybe a mix can be a good solution, this might be clearer after our research
• With kudos APIs this should be pretty easy to build upon, loving it
For now if you agree I think because of the limitation with whitelisted wallets we might want to go for POAP for physical event this time, what do you think?
Jacky 07:03:51
Actually no whitelist needed, there's another open claim option, if you're interested, I can connect the founder to run a demo for you and ask questions! (Or we can just use POAP haha up to you!)
n0ah 09:21:57
Oh shit then we can probably try kudos 💪💪
Jacky 09:24:17
its on polygon though, are we opinionated on what chain?
n0ah 09:25:43
I think the community had a preference towards eco-friendly ones, other than that none. Optimism is one that has a strong culture on public goods, but that's just an observation 💪
n0ah 09:32:15
Just minted! One potential problem w polygon or other L2 is it would require some MATICs or sth else, other than that seems quite perfect
n0ah 09:45:06
And yes would love to chat with founder to understand its full potential, and how we can use it in the future 💪
n0ah 09:48:28
Thank u Jacky!
billy3321 13:12:37
系列活動也會有個議程手冊,要等一成確定、名稱確定,就會開始製作。
billy3321 13:13:17
補一個,想請 @isabelhou 幫忙確定hackmd能否開組織帳號,謝謝!
chihao 13:13:30
@billy3321 系列活動是指什麼?
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n0ah 14:39:37
都到已更新
isabelhou 15:00:58
@billy3321 @noah226 關於組織帳號,現在超級管理員都是揪松成員,週二例會時會討論一下申請規範。
chewei
建立 team 現在需要 instance 的超級管理員權限,目前有的 team:summit2018、jothon、summit2020

好像可以把申請機制寫起來
例如命名權,先申請者先取得(跟網域概念一樣!)
https://g0v.hackmd.io/vYdTfaYeR7SnIU3zT5evOw#team-%E5%8A%9F%E8%83%BD
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isabelhou 15:00:58
@billy3321 @noah226 關於組織帳號,現在超級管理員都是揪松成員,週二例會時會討論一下申請規範。
chewei
建立 team 現在需要 instance 的超級管理員權限,目前有的 team:summit2018、jothon、summit2020

好像可以把申請機制寫起來
例如命名權,先申請者先取得(跟網域概念一樣!)
https://g0v.hackmd.io/vYdTfaYeR7SnIU3zT5evOw#team-%E5%8A%9F%E8%83%BD
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n0ah 17:23:54
Dear <!channel>
這幾次會議因為都有新人參加,跟他們聊過發現主要有兩個小障礙,一是不知道怎麼貢獻,二是對項目或領域背景知識不足,二我們永遠都可以在會後留下來聊聊或是增加會議筆記的深度,對一我想我可以把我們目前需要的人力不時列出來,讓大家知道我們哪些坑需要人

1. 視覺平面設計:da0 logo & identity
2. 使用者研究員:去中心化社會方案的使用者訪談
3. 智能合約工程師:希望能早點 involve 工程師在未來的架構上
當然就算你不符合上述我們也非常歡迎你來,誰知道什麼時候會需要什麼,或是起了什麼坑對吧

Cheers, onward 💪
目前雖然有「先期知識共筆」,但這個其實是給insider看的東西。我想,如果Noah願意,我們可以先在筆記上放上FAQ,你可以先把收集到的問題放上去,我們慢慢調整FAQ的內容。
當然願意,沒有問題
Billy FAQ 是想放在哪個筆記?
目前在這邊多開一頁就好了~
我加上一頁了
Perfect 感謝
我是鄭婉琪,準備特別思考「社群治理」這一題。我自己是年輕時是讀社會學,後來做一些學習社群工作,有一些真實經驗。在網路上怎麼做社群我只有兩三分熟悉,但希望自己能夠運用科技,做一些與教育、學習、生活、文化、知識積累相關的社群。不知道這樣適合如何參與?
n0ah 17:23:54
Dear <!channel>
這幾次會議因為都有新人參加,跟他們聊過發現主要有兩個小障礙,一是不知道怎麼貢獻,二是對項目或領域背景知識不足,二我們永遠都可以在會後留下來聊聊或是增加會議筆記的深度,對一我想我可以把我們目前需要的人力不時列出來,讓大家知道我們哪些坑需要人

1. 視覺平面設計:da0 logo & identity
2. 使用者研究員:去中心化社會方案的使用者訪談
3. 智能合約工程師:希望能早點 involve 工程師在未來的架構上
當然就算你不符合上述我們也非常歡迎你來,誰知道什麼時候會需要什麼,或是起了什麼坑對吧

Cheers, onward 💪
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目前雖然有「先期知識共筆」,但這個其實是給insider看的東西。我想,如果Noah願意,我們可以先在筆記上放上FAQ,你可以先把收集到的問題放上去,我們慢慢調整FAQ的內容。
當然願意,沒有問題
Billy FAQ 是想放在哪個筆記?
目前在這邊多開一頁就好了~
我加上一頁了
Perfect 感謝
我是鄭婉琪,準備特別思考「社群治理」這一題。我自己是年輕時是讀社會學,後來做一些學習社群工作,有一些真實經驗。在網路上怎麼做社群我只有兩三分熟悉,但希望自己能夠運用科技,做一些與教育、學習、生活、文化、知識積累相關的社群。不知道這樣適合如何參與?
Vivian Chen 21:51:01
明天會跟 Gitcoin 聊!
Vivian Chen 21:51:25
@noah226 如果你時間 ok 的話要不要加入?
n0ah 21:51:57
好呀如果方便的話,你們是幾點啊 💪💪💪
Vivian Chen 21:52:09
還沒確定 XD
Vivian Chen 21:52:13
我正在問他
Vivian Chen 21:52:18
等我一下呦~~
n0ah 21:52:23
🤣🤣🤣慢慢來
n0ah 21:52:42
再跟我說 我下午不行,晚上九點有會議,其他都可以
2022-09-06
Jacky 06:25:31
ok ill make a group chat for us in telegram to book a meeting with mintkudos founder! anyone welcome to join if interested in learning more!
Jacky 06:25:54
@noah226 any interest to have people from cityDAO talk?
Jacky 08:18:15
@noah226 what's your email? I'll add you to thread with Jesse from city3 and OAK and his team. Even though he can't make it, still be nice for us to connect and learn what they are doing - they invited us to be a guest on their next community call - can include anyone else interested too!
n0ah 08:49:04
Fantastic, noah@lostutopias.xyz thanks Jacky!
billy3321 14:16:57
目前雖然有「先期知識共筆」,但這個其實是給insider看的東西。我想,如果Noah願意,我們可以先在筆記上放上FAQ,你可以先把收集到的問題放上去,我們慢慢調整FAQ的內容。
n0ah 14:18:50
(Not a graphic designer obviously) 因為還找不到設計師來跳坑所以先給大家看一些概念方向,黑白是刻意的,我們可以先做形的選擇再做顏色的選擇,這樣會比較順暢,最後當然會請正常的設計師再做優化

我們週五開會時投票選方向,現在如果還有誰有什麼概念想要嘗試可以自己畫一下或是跟我說,在週五前可以趕出來

幾個重點提一下,左半邊是用跟 g0v 相同字型,細字體相對比較現代(但我會不小心想到化妝品),A 就照 @mashbean 將 g0v 的 V 反過來的設計(也嘗試了 @billy3321 的以太 logo 借用設計),設計重點都放在零的重塑,多中心、堆疊等在零裡展現。右半邊是不延續 g0v 的想法,web3 的主要早期核心文化之一是點陣(cryptopunk, moonbirds 等),點陣也有樂高堆疊的感覺,右中嘗試的是零的 optical illusion,代表 da0 希望創造無限正向循環的意思,最後只是試一下最近在用的字體

我們先做發散,週五會議在做收斂,有其他想法想試試的歡迎跟我說
截圖 2022-09-06 下午2.02.49.png
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Vivian Chen 2022-09-06 19:23:30
Thank you for all the hard work Noah!
提議一個 da 小寫 + g0v 的
沒問題晚點加上,感謝 idea!
說起來,這好像可以變成順序齁⋯ d > a > o > 0
@billy3321 可以多說點,我還沒 get 到🤣
亂做一下
好像可以混在一起?招財進寶style
對欸我也有發現這件事
用的是同一個圓
這個就可以做動畫
d ->(彎腰)a -> (上面封起來) 0
對欸 a 中間那槓往上就變零了
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 00:11:32
疊起來好酷~~ 多元宇宙的立體感 XD
我覺得用零時小學校的字體應該蠻有料的
Perfect! 我晚點來試試 @terry.f.wang 這個字型是哪個?
@yiting.lin 揪松那邊有紀錄這是什麼字體嗎
@terry.f.wang love it ❤️
@noah226 線上的話可以喔
@terry.f.wang 沒錯都是線上的,很期待,如果有需要日曆 invite 再把 email 給我
拍謝我不知道是什麼字體(詢問前輩中),但看起來你已經找到答案了讚讚
n0ah 14:19:17
當然願意,沒有問題
n0ah 14:19:39
Billy FAQ 是想放在哪個筆記?
n0ah 14:21:56
另外先簡單做了這個暫用,Logo 確定後會換掉。
da00anniversary.png
updated with sponsors
n0ah 14:22:33
@taipeicity.eth here’s the promised one-pager if still useful
da00anniversary_Onepager.pdf
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thank you! still useful for speaker invite, any interest in cityDAO team?
Yes of course, for speakers right? Sorry I probably missed the message somewhere, wasn't Jesse with cityDAO? Very interested in what they're building, this is the kind of topic that can expand people’s imagination
haha no Jesse is with city3 and oakcurrency, specifically for Oakland. CityDAO is in Wyoming
Got it sorry 🤣
But yes I think they basically serve the same purpose to 開腦洞 for the possibilities of DeSoc
billy3321 14:26:48
目前在這邊多開一頁就好了~
billy3321 14:28:09
我加上一頁了
n0ah 14:28:33
Perfect 感謝
n0ah 15:12:56
updated with sponsors
Vivian Chen 19:23:30
Thank you for all the hard work Noah!
提議一個 da 小寫 + g0v 的
n0ah 19:24:25
沒問題晚點加上,感謝 idea!
billy3321 19:37:44
0th of da0 好棒👍
billy3321 19:37:44
0th of da0 好棒👍
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billy3321 21:46:40
說起來,這好像可以變成順序齁⋯ d > a > o > 0
n0ah 21:47:48
@billy3321 可以多說點,我還沒 get 到🤣
Jacky 21:51:40
thank you! still useful for speaker invite, any interest in cityDAO team?
n0ah 21:54:14
Yes of course, for speakers right? Sorry I probably missed the message somewhere, wasn't Jesse with cityDAO? Very interested in what they're building, this is the kind of topic that can expand people’s imagination
billy3321 21:54:43
亂做一下
billy3321 21:54:51
好像可以混在一起?招財進寶style
n0ah 21:55:26
對欸我也有發現這件事
n0ah 21:55:33
用的是同一個圓
billy3321 21:55:58
這個就可以做動畫
billy3321 21:56:23
d ->(彎腰)a -> (上面封起來) 0
Jacky 21:57:12
haha no Jesse is with city3 and oakcurrency, specifically for Oakland. CityDAO is in Wyoming
n0ah 21:58:46
對欸 a 中間那槓往上就變零了
n0ah 21:59:23
Got it sorry 🤣
n0ah 22:04:38
But yes I think they basically serve the same purpose to 開腦洞 for the possibilities of DeSoc
2022-09-07
Vivian Chen 00:11:32
疊起來好酷~~ 多元宇宙的立體感 XD
Benji 05:54:48
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Benji 07:14:31
Hey Everyone, I’m a Web3 researcher and a professional tokenomist for web3 games. Please let me know if I can help with anything. (I don’t code, sorry)
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 11:08:24
Hello Benjamin! Perhaps join us in our next da0 meeting! we are now in the progress of setting up a dao for g0v 🙂
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 11:08:55
it'll be tonight 9pm taiwan time
Hi Benjamin! Yes like Vivian said we are having meetings every Wednesday 9pm (on da0 formation) and Friday 8:15pm (on web3xcommons events) Taiwan time, if you need an invite let me know your email. Most of the things we talked about are in meeting notes. We’re only just starting to set our missions on the Dao tonight, I think it'd be a great start for you there, if you can't make it tonite I'd still love to make time and talk to you, let me know how you want to do this
Hi @vivian.chen, @noah226, Thank you for responding. Yes, please send me an invite to today’s meeting. I’ll be there.
@benjamin.gellie do you have an email I can send the invite to?
Could you please link to the past da0 meetings? So I can catch up.
Of course, you can find everything here, mostly in Chinese. Invite sent as well

https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/%2FsfHrlbETTS-iw22xtrZC6Q%3Fview
Great. See you soon.
@benjamin.gellie might be too much to read before meeting, here’s what we’re going to talk about tonite if that’s easier https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2FYwMCg7oWTY67Gac6f5Lgvg%3Fview
Great! Lots here! :)
For sure, happy to catch you up after meeting if you think that’s helpful
Benji 07:14:31
Hey Everyone, I’m a Web3 researcher and a professional tokenomist for web3 games. Please let me know if I can help with anything. (I don’t code, sorry)
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Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 11:08:24
Hello Benjamin! Perhaps join us in our next da0 meeting! we are now in the progress of setting up a dao for g0v 🙂
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 11:08:55
it'll be tonight 9pm taiwan time
Hi Benjamin! Yes like Vivian said we are having meetings every Wednesday 9pm (on da0 formation) and Friday 8:15pm (on web3xcommons events) Taiwan time, if you need an invite let me know your email. Most of the things we talked about are in meeting notes. We’re only just starting to set our missions on the Dao tonight, I think it'd be a great start for you there, if you can't make it tonite I'd still love to make time and talk to you, let me know how you want to do this
Hi @vivian.chen, @noah226, Thank you for responding. Yes, please send me an invite to today’s meeting. I’ll be there.
@benjamin.gellie do you have an email I can send the invite to?
Could you please link to the past da0 meetings? So I can catch up.
Of course, you can find everything here, mostly in Chinese. Invite sent as well

https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/%2FsfHrlbETTS-iw22xtrZC6Q%3Fview
Great. See you soon.
@benjamin.gellie might be too much to read before meeting, here’s what we’re going to talk about tonite if that’s easier https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2FYwMCg7oWTY67Gac6f5Lgvg%3Fview
Great! Lots here! :)
For sure, happy to catch you up after meeting if you think that’s helpful
hcchien 07:59:28
10/23 短講報名截止: 5 days
HC 如果 @mashbean 截止前沒回的話(他剛好在國外可能時間難調)我們先用「公民組織的Web3 未來」這個題目,這樣豆泥應該有很寬的空間發揮💪💪💪
感謝~~
需要 @mashbean 的 email
@hcchien407 noah@lostutopias.xyz 非常感謝!
短講已報
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-15 16:36:48
mashbean@gmail.com 不好意思遲回了!
hcchien 07:59:28
10/23 短講報名截止: 5 days
HC 如果 @mashbean 截止前沒回的話(他剛好在國外可能時間難調)我們先用「公民組織的Web3 未來」這個題目,這樣豆泥應該有很寬的空間發揮💪💪💪
感謝~~
需要 @mashbean 的 email
@hcchien407 noah@lostutopias.xyz 非常感謝!
短講已報
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-15 16:36:48
mashbean@gmail.com 不好意思遲回了!
Vivian Chen 11:08:24
Hello Benjamin! Perhaps join us in our next da0 meeting! we are now in the progress of setting up a dao for g0v 🙂
Vivian Chen 11:08:55
it'll be tonight 9pm taiwan time
Ying 12:35:10
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n0ah 12:48:05
Hi Benjamin! Yes like Vivian said we are having meetings every Wednesday 9pm (on da0 formation) and Friday 8:15pm (on web3xcommons events) Taiwan time, if you need an invite let me know your email. Most of the things we talked about are in meeting notes. We’re only just starting to set our missions on the Dao tonight, I think it'd be a great start for you there, if you can't make it tonite I'd still love to make time and talk to you, let me know how you want to do this
n0ah 12:51:20
HC 如果 @mashbean 截止前沒回的話(他剛好在國外可能時間難調)我們先用「公民組織的Web3 未來」這個題目,這樣豆泥應該有很寬的空間發揮💪💪💪
n0ah 12:51:29
感謝~~
Benji 17:49:41
Hi @vivian.chen, @noah226, Thank you for responding. Yes, please send me an invite to today’s meeting. I’ll be there.
tofus 18:21:47
我覺得用零時小學校的字體應該蠻有料的
n0ah 18:22:29
Perfect! 我晚點來試試 @terry.f.wang 這個字型是哪個?
tofus 18:23:04
@yiting.lin 揪松那邊有紀錄這是什麼字體嗎
n0ah 18:23:20
@benjamin.gellie do you have an email I can send the invite to?
n0ah 18:58:43
@terry.f.wang love it ❤️
Benji 19:03:49
Could you please link to the past da0 meetings? So I can catch up.
n0ah 19:05:00
Of course, you can find everything here, mostly in Chinese. Invite sent as well

https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/%2FsfHrlbETTS-iw22xtrZC6Q%3Fview
Benji 19:05:27
Great. See you soon.
n0ah 19:21:15
@benjamin.gellie might be too much to read before meeting, here’s what we’re going to talk about tonite if that’s easier https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackmd.io%2FYwMCg7oWTY67Gac6f5Lgvg%3Fview
n0ah 19:28:35
Dear all, 今晚九點我們會開 da0 DAO 的第2次討論會議,主要的主題會圍繞在 da0 的任務與願景,與 g0v 的關係定義,同時也更新一下 user & tool research。
tag 有日曆邀請的人 @stamford.hwang @isabelhou @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @tom4996131207 @vivian.chen @benjamin.gellie
一樣新人非常歡迎,如果有不懂的我會後都會留下來解釋,@giselechou @tom4996131207 如果要參與這邊剛開始可能很合適

會議邀請連結(如果有進不來的請一定要跟我說):https://meet.google.com/gft-ytiy-wjj
會議 HackMD 文件:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/HkZMVVJei
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# da0 DAO 第2次討論會 ### 前情提要 [da0 面談筆記](<https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/S1H4OMyei>) [da0 DAO 第1次討論會](ht
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Gisele Chou 2022-09-07 19:41:05
好喔👌收到
我上線啦,有空的可以慢慢進來
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 20:59:34
正在要求加入中~~~
@vivian.chen 你的 invite 好像是 girlsintech 的
是不適用到私人 email
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 21:00:30
喔喔好 XD
Gisele Chou 2022-09-07 21:02:46
等待許可中
@giselechou 你 email 再給我一下
等待許可中請問新人可以加入嗎?
n0ah 19:28:35
Dear all, 今晚九點我們會開 da0 DAO 的第2次討論會議,主要的主題會圍繞在 da0 的任務與願景,與 g0v 的關係定義,同時也更新一下 user & tool research。
tag 有日曆邀請的人 @stamford.hwang @isabelhou @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @tom4996131207 @vivian.chen @benjamin.gellie
一樣新人非常歡迎,如果有不懂的我會後都會留下來解釋,@giselechou @tom4996131207 如果要參與這邊剛開始可能很合適

會議邀請連結(如果有進不來的請一定要跟我說):https://meet.google.com/gft-ytiy-wjj
會議 HackMD 文件:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/HkZMVVJei
Gisele Chou 2022-09-07 19:41:05
好喔👌收到
我上線啦,有空的可以慢慢進來
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 20:59:34
正在要求加入中~~~
@vivian.chen 你的 invite 好像是 girlsintech 的
是不適用到私人 email
Vivian Chen 2022-09-07 21:00:30
喔喔好 XD
Gisele Chou 2022-09-07 21:02:46
等待許可中
@giselechou 你 email 再給我一下
等待許可中請問新人可以加入嗎?
tofus 19:30:51
@noah226 線上的話可以喔
n0ah 19:31:22
@terry.f.wang 沒錯都是線上的,很期待,如果有需要日曆 invite 再把 email 給我
tofus 19:31:55
Benji 19:40:27
Great! Lots here! :)
Gisele Chou 19:41:05
好喔👌收到
n0ah 19:41:06
For sure, happy to catch you up after meeting if you think that’s helpful
Tiff 20:53:07
拍謝我不知道是什麼字體(詢問前輩中),但看起來你已經找到答案了讚讚
n0ah 20:59:15
我上線啦,有空的可以慢慢進來
Vivian Chen 20:59:34
正在要求加入中~~~
n0ah 21:00:19
@vivian.chen 你的 invite 好像是 girlsintech 的
n0ah 21:00:26
是不適用到私人 email
Vivian Chen 21:00:30
喔喔好 XD
Gisele Chou 21:02:46
等待許可中
n0ah 21:03:36
@giselechou 你 email 再給我一下
等待許可中請問新人可以加入嗎?
Vivian Chen 21:27:53
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Steward 21:51:11
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isabelhou 22:33:47
剛剛忘記說,@noah226 @vivian.chen 要在週五前提供@analeigh.jothon 21活動的下列下資料:
1. 活動簡介(150-200 字)
2. 活動時間/地點
3. 活動簡版流程
4. 其他希望放的資訊或提醒(例如:網站連結?)
5. 主辦單位/協辦單位/特別感謝(credit list)
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是不是直接copy paste hackmd上版本就可以?
這是為了報名網頁用。
我稍微整理一下貼這裡好了,我怕有些資訊沒有更新到
我明天寫上來
@analeigh.jothon 資料在這,麻煩 @isabelhou 也幫我看一下有沒有不適當的地方。

@analeigh.jothon 這個活動資訊之後還可以更新對嗎?

活動簡介(150-200 字)

從紐約 Funding the Commons 活動萌芽,da0 零週年我們希望可以將 web3 的力量導入亞洲的公共財領域。從 Gitcoin 領頭的去中心化社會,到 Protocol Labs(Filecoin/IPFS)探勘的影響力證明,為台灣打開公共財起飛的想像空間,也對接國際資源與舞台,讓台灣成為持續領先世界的創新公民社會。

活動時間:2022/10/21 6:00PM 進場
地點:N24台北方舟ARK·TPE 台北區塊鏈創新育成基地 https://goo.gl/maps/C8j6kYk2XUuJW2vV7

活動簡版流程
6:00~6:30PM Entry
6:30~7:40PM Keynotes
7:40~8:00PM Break
8:00~8:40PM Panel
8:40~8:50PM Break
8:50~9:20PM Closing

其他希望放的資訊或提醒(例如:網站連結?)
NA

主辦單位/協辦單位/特別感謝(credit list)
主辦單位 g0v
贊助單位 XR Express、TAVAR、國家發展委員會、區塊鏈愛好者協會
感謝 @noah226 !已收到!(資訊可以再修正,最晚於下週三前確認更新內容即可)
收到感謝
isabelhou 22:33:47
剛剛忘記說,@noah226 @vivian.chen 要在週五前提供@analeigh.jothon 21活動的下列下資料:
1. 活動簡介(150-200 字)
2. 活動時間/地點
3. 活動簡版流程
4. 其他希望放的資訊或提醒(例如:網站連結?)
5. 主辦單位/協辦單位/特別感謝(credit list)
是不是直接copy paste hackmd上版本就可以?
這是為了報名網頁用。
我稍微整理一下貼這裡好了,我怕有些資訊沒有更新到
我明天寫上來
@analeigh.jothon 資料在這,麻煩 @isabelhou 也幫我看一下有沒有不適當的地方。

@analeigh.jothon 這個活動資訊之後還可以更新對嗎?

活動簡介(150-200 字)

從紐約 Funding the Commons 活動萌芽,da0 零週年我們希望可以將 web3 的力量導入亞洲的公共財領域。從 Gitcoin 領頭的去中心化社會,到 Protocol Labs(Filecoin/IPFS)探勘的影響力證明,為台灣打開公共財起飛的想像空間,也對接國際資源與舞台,讓台灣成為持續領先世界的創新公民社會。

活動時間:2022/10/21 6:00PM 進場
地點:N24台北方舟ARK·TPE 台北區塊鏈創新育成基地 https://goo.gl/maps/C8j6kYk2XUuJW2vV7

活動簡版流程
6:00~6:30PM Entry
6:30~7:40PM Keynotes
7:40~8:00PM Break
8:00~8:40PM Panel
8:40~8:50PM Break
8:50~9:20PM Closing

其他希望放的資訊或提醒(例如:網站連結?)
NA

主辦單位/協辦單位/特別感謝(credit list)
主辦單位 g0v
贊助單位 XR Express、TAVAR、國家發展委員會、區塊鏈愛好者協會
感謝 @noah226 !已收到!(資訊可以再修正,最晚於下週三前確認更新內容即可)
收到感謝
isabelhou 22:34:30
是不是直接copy paste hackmd上版本就可以?
isabelhou 22:34:55
這是為了報名網頁用。
n0ah 22:35:07
我稍微整理一下貼這裡好了,我怕有些資訊沒有更新到
n0ah 22:36:18
我明天寫上來
n0ah 22:53:51
感謝大家參與會議!如果有人想要 catch up,會議筆記在這 https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/HkZMVVJei
Loving our momentum!
n0ah 22:53:51
感謝大家參與會議!如果有人想要 catch up,會議筆記在這 https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/HkZMVVJei
Loving our momentum!
HackMD
# da0 DAO 第2次討論會 ### 時間地點 時間:2022/9/7 9PM Taipei time 會議連結:<https://meet.google.com/gft-ytiy-wjj> #
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n0ah 01:53:34
Hi all, 這篇可能對理解去中心化身份在 g0v 的應用有點幫助,先介紹 Gitcoin Passport 的作法給比較不熟悉的人,最後也拿對 g0v 的想像當做例子,如果說錯什麼請指教我,cheers https://medium.com/noahs-onward-blog/web3-gitcoin-passport-%E9%96%8B%E5%95%9F%E7%9[…]8F%88%E4%B8%8A%E8%BA%AB%E4%BB%BD%E6%9C%AA%E4%BE%86-4d6a04cecf71
n0ah 01:53:34
Hi all, 這篇可能對理解去中心化身份在 g0v 的應用有點幫助,先介紹 Gitcoin Passport 的作法給比較不熟悉的人,最後也拿對 g0v 的想像當做例子,我寫東西很隨性,如果說錯什麼請指教我,cheers https://medium.com/noahs-onward-blog/web3-gitcoin-passport-%E9%96%8B%E5%95%9F%E7%9[…]8F%88%E4%B8%8A%E8%BA%AB%E4%BB%BD%E6%9C%AA%E4%BE%86-4d6a04cecf71
Medium
去中心化身份的早期應用案例
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婉琪 08:32:02
我是鄭婉琪,準備特別思考「社群治理」這一題。我自己是年輕時是讀社會學,後來做一些學習社群工作,有一些真實經驗。在網路上怎麼做社群我只有兩三分熟悉,但希望自己能夠運用科技,做一些與教育、學習、生活、文化、知識積累相關的社群。不知道這樣適合如何參與?
Vivian Chen 10:47:56
Hey guys, 我們接下來的幾個 web3 活動都有 bu zhi dao 的 support,不知道大家是否介意把 g0v logo 放在 Taipei Blockchain Week 的官網上呢?
Vivian Chen 2022-09-08 10:48:19
@isabelhou @hcchien407 問前輩們這樣有什麼要注意的呢?
Vivian Chen 2022-09-08 10:48:28
cc @taipeicity.eth
I think we can use da0 logo and “powered by g0v”. The usage of g0v logo is kind of complicated and sensitive (we can talk about this in Friday’s meeting).
da0 (DAO x g0v, powered by g0v) 是專案 (project of g0v) 層級;注意事項確實比單獨使用 g0v 單純多了。坑主公開透明的狀況下使用;『沒有人』會有意見吧⋯
Vivian Chen 10:47:56
Hey guys, 我們接下來的幾個 web3 活動都有 bu zhi dao 的 support,不知道大家是否介意把 g0v logo 放在 Taipei Blockchain Week 的官網上呢?
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Vivian Chen 2022-09-08 10:48:19
@isabelhou @hcchien407 問前輩們這樣有什麼要注意的呢?
Vivian Chen 2022-09-08 10:48:28
cc @taipeicity.eth
I think we can use da0 logo and “powered by g0v”. The usage of g0v logo is kind of complicated and sensitive (we can talk about this in Friday’s meeting).
da0 (DAO x g0v, powered by g0v) 是專案 (project of g0v) 層級;注意事項確實比單獨使用 g0v 單純多了。坑主公開透明的狀況下使用;『沒有人』會有意見吧⋯
Vivian Chen 10:48:19
@isabelhou @hcchien407 問前輩們這樣有什麼要注意的呢?
Vivian Chen 10:48:28
cc @taipeicity.eth
n0ah 10:53:18
Hi all, Glen Weyl 激進市場作者和 au 的書這兩周會出,我們正在翻譯一篇介紹文,還有大概一頁的部分需要人幫忙,有時間的人舉個手,多謝~~
推坑 @giselechou 🤣 既然多元宇宙妳都翻了
有相關書訊嗎!
Peter 書名是這個,我們目前只拿到一篇文章 _Plurality: Technology for Collaborative Diversity and Democracy_
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:23:21
哈,我現在才看到
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:24:20
那你把連結丟給我一下~or 傳給我?
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:26:22
@noah226 我昨天的那個連結後來好像跑掉了,看是哪一頁需要,我週末可以來嘗試一下~這沒問題。
感謝,我晚點拉妳入翻譯群💪💪
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:28:49
恩恩~好
我也可以幫忙
感謝 @kc.kuanchi ! 我先把妳拉進群,目前都滿了,萬一有人沒辦法負荷在麻煩妳!
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-16 12:49:54
如果還有翻譯群,不知道有沒有機會加加XD
@mashbean 可以起坑哈哈哈,之後有當然也會跟大家說~
n0ah 10:53:18
Hi all, Glen Weyl 激進市場作者和 au 的書這兩周會出,我們正在翻譯一篇介紹文,還有大概一頁的部分需要人幫忙,有時間的人舉個手,多謝~~
推坑 @giselechou 🤣 既然多元宇宙妳都翻了
有相關書訊嗎!
Peter 書名是這個,我們目前只拿到一篇文章 _Plurality: Technology for Collaborative Diversity and Democracy_
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:23:21
哈,我現在才看到
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:24:20
那你把連結丟給我一下~or 傳給我?
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:26:22
@noah226 我昨天的那個連結後來好像跑掉了,看是哪一頁需要,我週末可以來嘗試一下~這沒問題。
感謝,我晚點拉妳入翻譯群💪💪
Gisele Chou 2022-09-08 15:28:49
恩恩~好
我也可以幫忙
感謝 @kc.kuanchi ! 我先把妳拉進群,目前都滿了,萬一有人沒辦法負荷在麻煩妳!
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-16 12:49:54
如果還有翻譯群,不知道有沒有機會加加XD
@mashbean 可以起坑哈哈哈,之後有當然也會跟大家說~
n0ah 10:53:43
推坑 @giselechou 🤣 既然多元宇宙妳都翻了
isabelhou 10:56:39
I think we can use da0 logo and “powered by g0v”. The usage of g0v logo is kind of complicated and sensitive (we can talk about this in Friday’s meeting).
Peter 11:53:26
有相關書訊嗎!
n0ah 11:59:10
Peter 書名是這個,我們目前只拿到一篇文章 _Plurality: Technology for Collaborative Diversity and Democracy_
n0ah 13:02:49
@analeigh.jothon 資料在這,麻煩 @isabelhou 也幫我看一下有沒有不適當的地方。

@analeigh.jothon 這個活動資訊之後還可以更新對嗎?

活動簡介(150-200 字)

從紐約 Funding the Commons 活動萌芽,da0 零週年我們希望可以將 web3 的力量導入亞洲的公共財領域。從 Gitcoin 領頭的去中心化社會,到 Protocol Labs(Filecoin/IPFS)探勘的影響力證明,為台灣打開公共財起飛的想像空間,也對接國際資源與舞台,讓台灣成為持續領先世界的創新公民社會。

活動時間:2022/10/21 6:00PM 進場
地點:N24台北方舟ARK·TPE 台北區塊鏈創新育成基地 https://goo.gl/maps/C8j6kYk2XUuJW2vV7

活動簡版流程
6:00~6:30PM Entry
6:30~7:40PM Keynotes
7:40~8:00PM Break
8:00~8:40PM Panel
8:40~8:50PM Break
8:50~9:20PM Closing

其他希望放的資訊或提醒(例如:網站連結?)
NA

主辦單位/協辦單位/特別感謝(credit list)
主辦單位 g0v
贊助單位 XR Express、TAVAR、國家發展委員會、區塊鏈愛好者協會
Analeigh 13:16:17
感謝 @noah226 !已收到!(資訊可以再修正,最晚於下週三前確認更新內容即可)
n0ah 13:17:38
收到感謝
Gisele Chou 15:23:21
哈,我現在才看到
Gisele Chou 15:24:20
那你把連結丟給我一下~or 傳給我?
Gisele Chou 15:26:22
@noah226 我昨天的那個連結後來好像跑掉了,看是哪一頁需要,我週末可以來嘗試一下~這沒問題。
n0ah 15:27:43
感謝,我晚點拉妳入翻譯群💪💪
Gisele Chou 15:28:49
恩恩~好
我也可以幫忙
n0ah 16:34:44
感謝 @kc.kuanchi ! 我先把妳拉進群,目前都滿了,萬一有人沒辦法負荷在麻煩妳!
tkirby 17:13:19
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Le0n 22:21:21
da0 (DAO x g0v, powered by g0v) 是專案 (project of g0v) 層級;注意事項確實比單獨使用 g0v 單純多了。坑主公開透明的狀況下使用;『沒有人』會有意見吧⋯
2022-09-09
Vivian Chen 02:38:40
@vivian756 has joined the channel
hcchien 10:55:24
需要 @mashbean 的 email
ddio 13:32:57
@ddio has joined the channel
n0ah 14:37:55
Dear all, 今晚 8:15PM 我們會開 da0 零週年的第7次討論會議,主要的主題會圍繞在活動的計畫,另外還有 logo 投票!
tag 有日曆邀請的人 @stamford.hwang @billy3321 @hcchien407 @isabelhou @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @giselechou @terry.f.wang @tom4996131207
一樣新人非常歡迎,如果有不懂的我會後都會留下來解釋

多一件事 *面談者徵招* !我最近在做面談,希望可以更深入理解 g0v 大家心裡的想法,如果有意願請直接私訊我,非常需要面談者!

會議邀請連結(如果有進不來的請一定要跟我說):https://meet.google.com/kzj-yixe-vao
會議 HackMD 文件:https://g0v.hackmd.io/i3YpqncwTtG71gXxxDS4ag?view
meet.google.com
Real-time meetings by Google. Using your browser, share your video, desktop, and presentations with teammates and customers.
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我今天可能沒有辦法上去投票(我家在烤肉 🍖🍖🍖)投票的部分就再麻煩大家了🙏🙏🙏
好的沒事👌
Hi all 我在會議裡了,有空的可以慢慢上來~
Sorry will be 5 min late~
no problem at all
@stamford.hwang @hcchien407 @isabelhou @mashbean @vivian.chen @tom4996131207 有空就可以進來囉
Vivian Chen 2022-09-09 22:04:49
抱歉我今天忘記請假了!!參加朋友婚禮,我會補看紀錄!
n0ah 14:37:55
Dear all, 今晚 8:15PM 我們會開 da0 零週年的第7次討論會議,主要的主題會圍繞在活動的計畫,另外還有 logo 投票!
tag 有日曆邀請的人 @stamford.hwang @billy3321 @hcchien407 @isabelhou @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @giselechou @terry.f.wang @tom4996131207
一樣新人非常歡迎,如果有不懂的我會後都會留下來解釋

多一件事 *面談者徵招* !我最近在做面談,希望可以更深入理解 g0v 大家心裡的想法,如果有意願請直接私訊我,非常需要面談者!

會議邀請連結(如果有進不來的請一定要跟我說):https://meet.google.com/kzj-yixe-vao
會議 HackMD 文件:https://g0v.hackmd.io/i3YpqncwTtG71gXxxDS4ag?view
我今天可能沒有辦法上去投票(我家在烤肉 🍖🍖🍖)投票的部分就再麻煩大家了🙏🙏🙏
好的沒事👌
Hi all 我在會議裡了,有空的可以慢慢上來~
Sorry will be 5 min late~
no problem at all
@stamford.hwang @hcchien407 @isabelhou @mashbean @vivian.chen @tom4996131207 有空就可以進來囉
Vivian Chen 2022-09-09 22:04:49
抱歉我今天忘記請假了!!參加朋友婚禮,我會補看紀錄!
tofus 19:43:47
我今天可能沒有辦法上去投票(我家在烤肉 🍖🍖🍖)投票的部分就再麻煩大家了🙏🙏🙏
n0ah 19:49:59
好的沒事👌
n0ah 20:13:58
Hi all 我在會議裡了,有空的可以慢慢上來~
Jacky 20:14:56
Sorry will be 5 min late~
n0ah 20:16:42
no problem at all
n0ah 20:19:19
@stamford.hwang @hcchien407 @isabelhou @mashbean @vivian.chen @tom4996131207 有空就可以進來囉
n0ah 21:17:35
@hcchien407 noah@lostutopias.xyz 非常感謝!
n0ah 21:34:33
感謝大家參與會議,大家中秋快樂!
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n0ah 21:34:33
感謝大家參與會議,大家中秋快樂!
Vivian Chen 22:04:49
抱歉我今天忘記請假了!!參加朋友婚禮,我會補看紀錄!
hcchien 22:08:42
短講已報
2022-09-10
Jacky 03:23:15
關於之前提到的 mission brainstorm 下禮拜三,

我想試試一個我之前試過覺得效果不賴,好玩一點的方法讓大家都有機會可以各自發表想法,
想問問大家 feedback,會不會想試試這樣,也讓大家有點時間可以在裡面先看看跟加一些其他想討論問題
https://ideaflip.com/edit/4f9kefvrysj7/amuMk9oBUAbX

我們可以試試
• Opening + Brainstorm (Jacky)
◦ 先各自回答 prompt 用同樣顏色的貼紙
◦ 10-15 分鐘後,大家分享自己寫了什麼
• Consolidation (need volunteer)
◦ 我們可以請自願者幫忙把各個問題的答案整理再一起,相同理念的答案重疊在一起 (大概就看得出大家的共識在哪)
◦ 在 go over each question together again
• Consensus (Noah?)
◦ 大家一起抓一個 mission statement + values 出來
◦ 更多討論
大家覺得這個 format ok 嗎?welcome any feedback!
Love it let's try 💪💪
does this link work for you guys?
I saw au’s pic hahahaha, that means it works yes?
@taipeicity.eth one question, do you have a specific format of mission statement you have in mind as our deliverable?
Hm not sure about format, but the goal of the session is come up within a sentence or 2 that is clear, concise, and concrete that we all are happy with and a few values we lean heavily into

Got it, I'll reference some other information as well to come up with a more detailed statement considering we already have the two sentences sort of outlined 💪 the goal might be to come up with a structured draft for sth like a g0v宣言, what do you think?
Ah ok ok I thought maybe we wanted to come up with refined mission and add values. Ya we probably need a charter instead, but not sure how far we can get, let's try! Sounds good
Yup aim high and fail better 🤣
If number of participant is a thing Miro should help too
ok! i will migrate!
miro has limit too 😞
@taipeicity.eth if you think appropriate we can use mine, I can have up to 14 members
Oh you have a miro account? It's not free right?
That'd be wonderful
I opened a board in case you want to do some prep first
thanks!!!
I updated the miro board. take a look. feel free to edit~
thanks @noah226 for sharing account and @taipeicity.eth for getting this started ✌️🏼
thank you @stamford.hwang!!!
@stamford.hwang this is great! do people write privately first then share to the board or directly write onto the board?
former! we can work along the agenda you had put out
but either is cool really
ok! lets do former!
Jacky 03:23:15
關於之前提到的 da0 mission brainstorm 下禮拜三,

我想試試一個我之前試過覺得效果不賴,好玩一點的方法讓大家都有機會可以充分各自發表想法,
想問問大家 feedback,會不會想試試這樣,也讓大家有點時間可以在裡面先看看跟加一些其他想討論問題
https://ideaflip.com/edit/4f9kefvrysj7/amuMk9oBUAbX

我們可以試試
• Opening + Brainstorm (@taipeicity.eth)
◦ 先各自回答 prompt 用同樣顏色的貼紙
◦ (要在開始前偷寫也可以但別放上來,怕影響到別人的答案)
◦ 10 分鐘後,大家分享自己寫了什麼
• Consolidation
◦ 我們可以把各個問題的答案整理再一起,相同理念的答案重疊在一起 (大概就看得出大家的共識在哪)
◦ 在 go over each question together again (@vivian.chen)
• Consensus (@noah226)
◦ 大家一起抓一個 mission statement + values 出來
◦ 更多討論
大家覺得這個 format ok 嗎?welcome any feedback!
Ideaflip
Ideaflip — Online sticky notes for planning, brainstorming and organising with your team
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Love it let's try 💪💪
does this link work for you guys?
I saw au’s pic hahahaha, that means it works yes?
@taipeicity.eth one question, do you have a specific format of mission statement you have in mind as our deliverable?
Hm not sure about format, but the goal of the session is come up within a sentence or 2 that is clear, concise, and concrete that we all are happy with and a few values we lean heavily into

Got it, I'll reference some other information as well to come up with a more detailed statement considering we already have the two sentences sort of outlined 💪 the goal might be to come up with a structured draft for sth like a g0v宣言, what do you think?
Ah ok ok I thought maybe we wanted to come up with refined mission and add values. Ya we probably need a charter instead, but not sure how far we can get, let's try! Sounds good
Yup aim high and fail better 🤣
If number of participant is a thing Miro should help too
ok! i will migrate!
miro has limit too 😞
@taipeicity.eth if you think appropriate we can use mine, I can have up to 14 members
Oh you have a miro account? It's not free right?
That'd be wonderful
I opened a board in case you want to do some prep first
thanks!!!
I updated the miro board. take a look. feel free to edit~
thanks @noah226 for sharing account and @taipeicity.eth for getting this started ✌️🏼
thank you @stamford.hwang!!!
@stamford.hwang this is great! do people write privately first then share to the board or directly write onto the board?
former! we can work along the agenda you had put out
but either is cool really
ok! lets do former!
n0ah 03:55:00
Love it let's try 💪💪
Jacky 11:15:34
does this link work for you guys?
n0ah 12:16:06
I saw au’s pic hahahaha, that means it works yes?
n0ah 12:18:03
@taipeicity.eth one question, do you have a specific format of mission statement you have in mind as our deliverable?
Jacky 13:15:19
Hm not sure about format, but the goal of the session is come up within a sentence or 2 that is clear, concise, and concrete that we all are happy with and a few values we lean heavily into

n0ah 13:18:12
Got it, I'll reference some other information as well to come up with a more detailed statement considering we already have the two sentences sort of outlined 💪 the goal might be to come up with a structured draft for sth like a g0v宣言, what do you think?
Peter 17:59:16
*對了,因為我們十週年艦隊目前正在徵集闖關小遊戲的坑主夥伴加入,想詢問web3頻道要不要加入~因為有蠻多活動跟後續的計畫在進行的,如果要參考相關資訊的話,可以參考共筆連結:*
*https://g0v.hackmd.io/@PnCIgRWVQsqQ4A5lSSVXEQ/H12QX1oFq*

如果想要參加的話,可以填寫以下表單!
*https://forms.gle/rRGCJsLifFwALThP9*
有任何問題都可以問我~基本上只要提供介紹、照片以及一個活動的網址,我們就可以將這個網址串到我們闖關小遊戲上了!
Peter 17:59:16
*對了,因為我們十週年艦隊目前正在徵集闖關小遊戲的坑主夥伴加入,想詢問web3頻道要不要加入~因為有蠻多活動跟後續的計畫在進行的,如果要參考相關資訊的話,可以參考共筆連結:*
*https://g0v.hackmd.io/@PnCIgRWVQsqQ4A5lSSVXEQ/H12QX1oFq*

如果想要參加的話,可以填寫以下表單!
*https://forms.gle/rRGCJsLifFwALThP9*
有任何問題都可以問我~基本上只要提供介紹、照片以及一個活動的網址,我們就可以將這個網址串到我們闖關小遊戲上了!
HackMD
# 十週年生日趴-集點互動式闖關共筆 ## 概念 利用QR code 結合互動式的網頁,讓參與者掃描QR code 後,參與專案的貢獻,例如協助推廣社群、進行特定專案的微小貢獻。完成每一關後都可
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Jacky 19:25:46
Ah ok ok I thought maybe we wanted to come up with refined mission and add values. Ya we probably need a charter instead, but not sure how far we can get, let's try! Sounds good
n0ah 19:45:58
Yup aim high and fail better 🤣
Gisele Chou 22:01:50
@noah226 直接更了一下媒體的部分(今天剛好線上遇到一家)~Cheers.
Wonderful
Gisele Chou 22:01:50
@noah226 直接更了一下媒體的部分(今天剛好線上遇到一家)~Cheers.
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Wonderful
n0ah 22:56:44
Wonderful
2022-09-11
n0ah 00:51:48
If number of participant is a thing Miro should help too
ael 17:56:56
@noah226 推薦看一下西班牙 Decidim ,一個開源線上公民參與平台,governance 跟白皮書做的很好

https://docs.decidim.org/en/index.html

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this is very good reference, thank you @aelcenganda
ael 17:56:56
@noah226 推薦看一下西班牙 Decidim ,一個開源線上公民參與平台,governance 跟白皮書做的很好

https://docs.decidim.org/en/index.html

this is very good reference, thank you @aelcenganda
ael 18:27:18
My sharing on g0v community and digital democracy in Taiwan to Swiss RadicalXChange. We briefly touched on possibility of civic tech and web3

https://youtu.be/dNDim8UwnR8
ael 18:27:18
My sharing on g0v community and digital democracy in Taiwan to Swiss RadicalXChange. We briefly touched on possibility of civic tech and web3

https://youtu.be/dNDim8UwnR8
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n0ah 18:55:22
this is very good reference, thank you @aelcenganda
Jacky 23:05:09
ok! i will migrate!
2022-09-12
ael 00:50:59
I am not sure if folks are already familiar with this organization Consensys. They have developed some amazing blockchain solutions for civil society and social good.

https://consensys.net/
ConsenSys
Build next-generation apps, launch blockchain-based financial infrastructure, and access the decentralized web with ConsenSys' Ethereum product suite.
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Yes 👍 the solutions we’re looking at now a lot of them are coming from consensys, gitcoin & ceramic network are some bigger ones
ael 00:50:59
I am not sure if folks are already familiar with this organization Consensys. They have developed some amazing blockchain solutions for civil society and social good.

https://consensys.net/
Yes 👍 the solutions we’re looking at now a lot of them are coming from consensys, gitcoin & ceramic network are some bigger ones
n0ah 01:29:56
Yes 👍 the solutions we’re looking at now a lot of them are coming from consensys, gitcoin & ceramic network are some bigger ones
Vivian Chen 01:34:27
跟大家分享我今天寫的這篇文章,內容有提到 g0v 的案例,也期待大家可以點到連結支持一下我跟 @taipeicity.eth 現在在 Gitcoin 上面的專案!
https://medium.com/@viviantp6/%E8%AE%93-web3-%E6%88%90%E7%82%BA%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%[…]B8%80%E5%BA%A7%E8%AD%B7%E5%9C%8B%E7%A5%9E%E5%B1%B1-2d81ece9396a
Vivian Chen 01:34:27
跟大家分享我今天寫的這篇文章,內容有提到 g0v 的案例,也期待大家可以點到連結支持一下我跟 @taipeicity.eth 現在在 Gitcoin 上面的專案!
https://medium.com/@viviantp6/%E8%AE%93-web3-%E6%88%90%E7%82%BA%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%[…]B8%80%E5%BA%A7%E8%AD%B7%E5%9C%8B%E7%A5%9E%E5%B1%B1-2d81ece9396a
Medium
Web3 可以帶來的價值是超越「國家」和「政治」的,我們在逐漸發展的去中心化平台中,慢慢的建立每個自主的個人和世界互動的方式。這是一個互相扶持、共同開發的去中心化社會,所有我們相信的概念,都能在技術的支持上被保存。
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Vivian Chen 11:47:36
@noah226 are we still doing the gitcoin chat?
@vivian.chen there’s some confusion with time, Leon sent an email to reschedule
Vivian Chen 11:47:36
@noah226 are we still doing the gitcoin chat?
@vivian.chen there’s some confusion with time, Leon sent an email to reschedule
n0ah 12:35:16
@vivian.chen there’s some confusion with time, Leon sent an email to reschedule
mglee 12:40:10
@mglee has joined the channel
Elena Chen 14:03:42
@elena.chen has joined the channel
Ted Chen 14:47:22
@ted178 has joined the channel
2022-09-13
tofus 00:27:49
第三次 logo 迭代的提案!
豪豪笑,logo 畫著畫著就變成一本小本本了
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KDQ6-zyUdeahBsRcXPACrCn8fATHqNxi/view?usp=sharing
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this is amazing!!!
tofus 00:28:20
這邊有原檔的 figma 喔!
有需要的可以複製後拿去修改
https://www.figma.com/file/1z87CdrcfLLJus7AWYHoC9/da0-%E8%A8%AD%E8%A8%88%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88?node-id=0%3A1
figma.com
Created with Figma
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Thank you @terry.f.wang!!!
Gisele Chou 2022-09-14 00:06:49
方案一好跳!
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-14 21:26:14
太神啦!
Jacky 00:42:52
this is amazing!!!
Jacky 00:45:06
miro has limit too 😞
n0ah 07:42:14
@taipeicity.eth if you think appropriate we can use mine, I can have up to 14 members
n0ah 08:11:29
Thank you @terry.f.wang!!!
Jacky 08:24:56
Oh you have a miro account? It's not free right?
Jacky 08:25:01
That'd be wonderful
n0ah 08:27:52
I opened a board in case you want to do some prep first
Jacky 13:39:37
thanks!!!
isabelhou 16:58:16
hackmd team 申請方式。@noah226
收到,我可能週末來看一下這怎麼用
isabelhou 16:58:16
hackmd team 申請方式。@noah226
收到,我可能週末來看一下這怎麼用
isabelhou 16:58:59
hackmd team 申請方式。@noah226
n0ah 18:56:38
收到,我可能週末來看一下這怎麼用
Stamford 23:01:15
I updated the miro board. take a look. feel free to edit~
Stamford 23:01:32
thanks @noah226 for sharing account and @taipeicity.eth for getting this started ✌️🏼
Jacky 23:32:41
thank you @stamford.hwang!!!
2022-09-14
Gisele Chou 00:06:49
方案一好跳!
n0ah 16:58:12
Hi all 今晚九點我們會開 da0 工作小組的會議,主要會進行 Mission statement 的腦力激盪與更新一下社群研究的進度
• 一樣歡迎新人參與,如果有問題我會後會留下來解答
• 會議討論連結:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/rkAZP00xo
• 會議邀請連結(如果有進不來的請一定要跟我說):https://meet.google.com/gft-ytiy-wjj
目前仍然在做面試者招募,如果有興趣的請找我~
tag 有接受日曆邀請的人 @isabelhou @stamford.hwang @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @tom4996131207 @benjamin.gellie 晚上見,cheers!
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在 call 裡囉!
n0ah 16:58:12
Hi all 今晚九點我們會開 da0 工作小組的會議,主要會進行 Mission statement 的腦力激盪與更新一下社群研究的進度
• 一樣歡迎新人參與,如果有問題我會後會留下來解答
• 會議討論連結:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/rkAZP00xo
• 會議邀請連結(如果有進不來的請一定要跟我說):https://meet.google.com/gft-ytiy-wjj
目前仍然在做面試者招募,如果有興趣的請找我~
tag 有接受日曆邀請的人 @isabelhou @stamford.hwang @mashbean @taipeicity.eth @vivian.chen @tom4996131207 @benjamin.gellie 晚上見,cheers!
在 call 裡囉!
Michael Hwang 20:39:18
@michael698 has joined the channel
Jacky 20:49:38
@stamford.hwang this is great! do people write privately first then share to the board or directly write onto the board?
Jacky 20:58:20
hey all, @michael698 is my friend who is currently in Taiwan curious to learn more about g0v/da0 too!
welcome!
Jacky 20:58:20
hey all, @michael698 is my friend who is currently in Taiwan curious to learn more about g0v/da0 too!
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welcome!
Stamford 20:59:20
former! we can work along the agenda you had put out
Stamford 20:59:26
but either is cool really
Jacky 20:59:45
ok! lets do former!
n0ah 21:00:33
在 call 裡囉!
n0ah 21:01:30
welcome!
mashbean 豆泥 21:26:14
太神啦!
n0ah 22:57:35
Super productive session, 感謝 @taipeicity.eth, @stamford.hwang for hosting @vivian.chen & @mashbean for consolidating, and welcome @michael698!

有興趣的人可以看一下
Miro 筆記:https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPYeuDTw=/?share_link_id=883655453891
總結筆記:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/rkAZP00xo

我明天會開一份 da0 charter 的文件,先把部分資料整理上去再給大家共編

again exciting times!
今天感謝 @noah226 的總結,感覺好 empowered and powerful!再說一聲不好意思今天時間拉比較長 🙏
Vivian Chen 2022-09-14 23:00:08
謝謝大家~~~~
Loved it! what a wonderful session, thanks to you guys~
Vivian Chen 2022-09-14 23:00:26
結論好棒,我很驚艷~~~~
Michael Hwang 2022-09-14 23:05:53
Great meeting you all, and thanks for letting me attend! @noah226 my email is michael@tmoclabs.com
@michael698 invite sent!
I just might 🤣🤣🤣
n0ah 22:57:35
Super productive session, 感謝 @taipeicity.eth, @stamford.hwang for hosting @vivian.chen & @mashbean for consolidating, and welcome @michael698!

有興趣的人可以看一下
Miro 筆記:https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPYeuDTw=/?share_link_id=883655453891
總結筆記:https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/rkAZP00xo

我明天會開一份 da0 charter 的文件,先把部分資料整理上去再給大家共編

again exciting times!
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今天感謝 @noah226 的總結,感覺好 empowered and powerful!再說一聲不好意思今天時間拉比較長 🙏
Vivian Chen 2022-09-14 23:00:08
謝謝大家~~~~
Loved it! what a wonderful session, thanks to you guys~
Vivian Chen 2022-09-14 23:00:26
結論好棒,我很驚艷~~~~
Michael Hwang 2022-09-14 23:05:53
Great meeting you all, and thanks for letting me attend! @noah226 my email is michael@tmoclabs.com
@michael698 invite sent!
I just might 🤣🤣🤣
Jacky 22:59:40
今天感謝 @noah226 的總結,感覺好 empowered and powerful!再說一聲不好意思今天時間拉比較長 🙏
Vivian Chen 23:00:08
謝謝大家~~~~
n0ah 23:00:10
Loved it! what a wonderful session, thanks to you guys~
Vivian Chen 23:00:26
結論好棒,我很驚艷~~~~
Michael Hwang 23:05:53
Great meeting you all, and thanks for letting me attend! @noah226 my email is michael@tmoclabs.com
n0ah 23:07:20
@michael698 invite sent!
n0ah 23:28:49
I just might 🤣🤣🤣
2022-09-15
n0ah 09:56:39
Hi all 我照著昨天的討論寫了一個 Mission 的架構,大家可以看一下,歡迎加加減減。除了 Mission 外寫了一個 da0 的敘事,類似零時政府的宣言,歡迎給 notes 或修改,尤其請讀書人 @mashbean 幫我們多看一下文字。標示了一些價值,歡迎提出多幾個版本。最後Highlight 了一些昨天的金句。我們可以花一週的時間大家編輯線上討論,下週訂出 v1 結果

https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/H1sX3DkZs

tag 昨天的參與者
@taipeicity.eth @stamford.hwang @vivian.chen @mashbean @isabelhou @terry.f.wang @michael698 @giselechou

其他人也請隨時給回饋~ 我們下週三定案
Mission 確定後接下來幾週我們試著完成幾件事
• 社群使用者研究 - TA 及問題定義
• 討論接下來的協作及工作方式
• 討論定義的任務下我們的優先順序為何,什麼是現在最需要做的事
如果有其他想要前期先討論的事項也請不吝提出

Again thank you all for the putting this together, this is quite amazing
看了第一句眼匡泛紅 🥺
you mean 仍在修編中? 🤣
這太棒了
@isabelhou when brilliant minds come together for a solid mission 💪
@noah226 我把你寫的 narrative 排列了一下,你覺得如何

We are nobody, but driven by pride, love and curiosity for Taiwan.
We are democratic, but driven by do-ocracy.
We are locally activated, but connected and impactful globally.
We are decentralized, but driven by builders, dreamers and leaders.
We are forward, but built upon 10 years of open source success.
We are da0, here to supercharge g0v.
absolutely love it, please make changes on the document directly
但我其實看不太懂「無大台激勵堆疊」想要表達的意思 XD
@hcchien407 收到🤣🤣🤣
https://www.oak.community/about-2

this can be interesting reference to compare with
Interesting, they are very specific on what they would be doing, we can do that once we have more clarity too, that part changes over time anyway
寫東西間看到這個,覺得大家也許會有興趣。https://g0v.hackmd.io/x-ngci7LQ1-UrAFKL5FLAQ?view
Very useful, 我貼到我們文件裡
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-15 16:22:05
被cue所以寫了一些東西,Noah看一下,隨時可以整併或刪修。

主要有四個部分,

一、
We are da0, here to supercharge g0v.
零時道,為零時政府開闢一條前往web3的道路

Supercharge 有點難翻譯(教育部辭典是增壓),所以我從零時道的字義逕行延伸為「道路」

二、
and we dream of democratic liberty.
我們有一個夢,一群嚮往自由民主的自主行動

「自主」的擴寫叫做「自由民主」。自主也有做自己的主人公之意
然後我有一個夢改成「我們」,是延伸自馬丁路德金恩博士的演講「I Have a Dream」XD

三、
yet respect past successes.
追尋文化共識,而非謀求工具尋租

這邊我想 Noah 的意思是尊重the old good glory,並且從昨天的會議採用 Isabel 對於「公益、公民」的正道,所以將工具尋租放進來與文化共識做對照。如果擴寫成長版,就是「追尋零時文化共識,而非謀求web3工具尋租」。尋租文化除了是平台資本主義目前的弊病,也是web3世界正在慢慢出現的潛在危險。g0v是離這件事較遠了,我想可以特別強調。至於要用長版還是短板,都可以!

四、
we will survive, we will progress, we will fit in.
da0持續與台灣一同共融、迭代、擬合。

這邊我將詞彙改成相對geek一點,
survive寫成「共融」,讓多元族群可以在數位社會都過得還不錯。
progress寫成「迭代」,除了成長,也從一次次的版本中進步,這也符合Noah想要強調的「堆疊」之概念
fit in寫成「擬合」,這是人工智慧學術用語,是演算法在預測實際世界時,可以正確預測,卻又不會過於偏向於某些特殊案例。我想web3工具的通用性,也很適合使用擬合這個概念,而擬合的重要前提,便是要不斷迭代,創造通用世界的共融。

其他翻譯我有寫在HackMD裏面,歡迎隨時修改,歡迎下一棒!
我覺得超棒!
Love it! @mashbean
Gisele Chou 2022-09-15 22:24:23
我想到了i dream a dream 這首歌(喚醒)
n0ah 09:56:39
Hi all 我照著昨天的討論寫了一個 Mission 的架構,大家可以看一下,歡迎加加減減。除了 Mission 外寫了一個 da0 的敘事,類似零時政府的宣言,歡迎給 notes 或修改,尤其請讀書人 @mashbean 幫我們多看一下文字。標示了一些價值,歡迎提出多幾個版本。最後Highlight 了一些昨天的金句。我們可以花一週的時間大家編輯線上討論,下週訂出 v1 結果

https://g0v.hackmd.io/@noahyeh/H1sX3DkZs

tag 昨天的參與者
@taipeicity.eth @stamford.hwang @vivian.chen @mashbean @isabelhou @terry.f.wang @michael698 @giselechou

其他人也請隨時給回饋~ 我們下週三定案
Mission 確定後接下來幾週我們試著完成幾件事
• 社群使用者研究 - TA 及問題定義
• 討論接下來的協作及工作方式
• 討論定義的任務下我們的優先順序為何,什麼是現在最需要做的事
如果有其他想要前期先討論的事項也請不吝提出

Again thank you all for the putting this together, this is quite amazing
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看了第一句眼匡泛紅 🥺
you mean 仍在修編中? 🤣
這太棒了
@isabelhou when brilliant minds come together for a solid mission 💪
@noah226 我把你寫的 narrative 排列了一下,你覺得如何

We are nobody, but driven by pride, love and curiosity for Taiwan.
We are democratic, but driven by do-ocracy.
We are locally activated, but connected and impactful globally.
We are decentralized, but driven by builders, dreamers and leaders.
We are forward, but built upon 10 years of open source success.
We are da0, here to supercharge g0v.
absolutely love it, please make changes on the document directly
但我其實看不太懂「無大台激勵堆疊」想要表達的意思 XD
@hcchien407 收到🤣🤣🤣
https://www.oak.community/about-2

this can be interesting reference to compare with
Interesting, they are very specific on what they would be doing, we can do that once we have more clarity too, that part changes over time anyway
寫東西間看到這個,覺得大家也許會有興趣。https://g0v.hackmd.io/x-ngci7LQ1-UrAFKL5FLAQ?view
Very useful, 我貼到我們文件裡
mashbean 豆泥 2022-09-15 16:22:05
被cue所以寫了一些東西,Noah看一下,隨時可以整併或刪修。

主要有四個部分,

一、
We are da0, here to supercharge g0v.
零時道,為零時政府開闢一條前往web3的道路

Supercharge 有點難翻譯(教育部辭典是增壓),所以我從零時道的字義逕行延伸為「道路」

二、
and we dream of democratic liberty.
我們有一個夢,一群嚮往自由民主的自主行動

「自主」的擴寫叫做「自由民主」。自主也有做自己的主人公之意
然後我有一個夢改成「我們」,是延伸自馬丁路德金恩博士的演講「I Have a Dream」XD

三、
yet respect past successes.
追尋文化共識,而非謀求工具尋租

這邊我想 Noah 的意思是尊重the old good glory,並且從昨天的會議採用 Isabel 對於「公益、公民」的正道,所以將工具尋租放進來與文化共識做對照。如果擴寫成長版,就是「追尋零時文化共識,而非謀求web3工具尋租」。尋租文化除了是平台資本主義目前的弊病,也是web3世界正在慢慢出現的潛在危險。g0v是離這件事較遠了,我想可以特別強調。至於要用長版還是短板,都可以!

四、
we will survive, we will progress, we will fit in.
da0持續與台灣一同共融、迭代、擬合。

這邊我將詞彙改成相對geek一點,
survive寫成「共融」,讓多元族群可以在數位社會都過得還不錯。
progress寫成「迭代」,除了成長,也從一次次的版本中進步,這也符合Noah想要強調的「堆疊」之概念
fit in寫成「擬合」,這是人工智慧學術用語,是演算法在預測實際世界時,可以正確預測,卻又不會過於偏向於某些特殊案例。我想web3工具的通用性,也很適合使用擬合這個概念,而擬合的重要前提,便是要不斷迭代,創造通用世界的共融。

其他翻譯我有寫在HackMD裏面,歡迎隨時修改,歡迎下一棒!
我覺得超棒!
Love it! @mashbean
Gisele Chou 2022-09-15 22:24:23
我想到了i dream a dream 這首歌(喚醒)
Jacky 10:07:48
看了第一句眼匡泛紅 🥺
n0ah 10:08:32
you mean 仍在修編中? 🤣
isabelhou 10:11:28
這太棒了
n0ah 10:12:11
另外如果有新手還在思考如何參與,我也再給一些連結

前期知識共筆,這邊像 @terry.f.wang 講的有一些 medium 的連結,我下週會錄一個簡單的 onboard video 讓大家更容易上手
https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/%2FxPWwJ01tRNqPk3p-RYYgEw%3Fview

潛在坑列表,請找坑跳https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/%2Fl2rw0_oKQ8GCusAB-_TYyg%3Fview

最後不管你知不知道怎麼做,都歡迎找我聊聊天
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n0ah 10:12:11
另外如果有新手還在思考如何參與,我也再給一些連結

前期知識共筆,這邊像 @terry.f.wang 講的有一些 medium 的連結,我下週會錄一個簡單的 onboard video 讓大家更容易上手
https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/%2FxPWwJ01tRNqPk3p-RYYgEw%3Fview

潛在坑列表,請找坑跳https://g0v.hackmd.io/@jmqqBzEuTfyhzhylQiNAgw/rkmURiDaq/%2Fl2rw0_oKQ8GCusAB-_TYyg%3Fview

最後不管你知不知道怎麼做,都歡迎找我聊聊天
n0ah 10:12:48
@isabelhou when brilliant minds come together for a solid mission 💪
Jacky 10:18:25
@noah226 我把你寫的 narrative 排列了一下,你覺得如何

We are nobody, but driven by pride, love and curiosity for Taiwan.
We are democratic, but driven by do-ocracy.
We are locally activated, but connected and impactful globally.
We are decentralized, but driven by builders, dreamers and leaders.
We are forward, but built upon 10 years of open source success.
We are da0, here to supercharge g0v.
n0ah 10:23:19
absolutely love it, please make changes on the document directly
hcchien 11:26:56
但我其實看不太懂「無大台激勵堆疊」想要表達的意思 XD
n0ah 11:27:50
@hcchien407 收到🤣🤣🤣
Jacky 13:15:51
https://www.oak.community/about-2

this can be interesting reference to compare with
n0ah 14:29:09
Interesting, they are very specific on what they would be doing, we can do that once we have more clarity too, that part changes over time anyway
isabelhou 16:05:40
寫東西間看到這個,覺得大家也許會有興趣。https://g0v.hackmd.io/x-ngci7LQ1-UrAFKL5FLAQ?view
n0ah 16:07:03
Very useful, 我貼到我們文件裡
billy3321 16:13:34
「為零時政府開闢一條前往web3的道路」

這邊也許大家可以多討論一下,我覺得我們可以在g0v下探索g0v的不同可能,但是要注意不要讓人覺得我們正在試圖自己定義新的g0v,或是代表g0v來發出宣言唷!
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感謝提醒~ 我們有注意這一點
沒問題,永遠都要假設還有人不想數位化,我們的服務、宣言、看法也要涵容他們~
billy3321 16:13:34
「為零時政府開闢一條前往web3的道路」

這邊也許大家可以多討論一下,我覺得我們可以在g0v下探索g0v的不同可能,但是要注意不要讓人覺得我們正在試圖自己定義新的g0v,或是代表g0v來發出宣言唷!
感謝提醒~ 我們有注意這一點
沒問題,永遠都要假設還有人不想數位化,我們的服務、宣言、看法也要涵容他們~
n0ah 16:21:12
感謝提醒~ 我們有注意這一點
mashbean 豆泥 16:22:05
Replied to a thread: 2022-09-15 09:56:39
被cue所以寫了一些東西,Noah看一下,隨時可以整併或刪修。

主要有四個部分,

一、
We are da0, here to supercharge g0v.
零時道,為零時政府開闢一條前往web3的道路

Supercharge 有點難翻譯(教育部辭典是增壓),所以我從零時道的字義逕行延伸為「道路」

二、
and we dream of democratic liberty.
我們有一個夢,一群嚮往自由民主的自主行動

「自主」的擴寫叫做「自由民主」。自主也有做自己的主人公之意
然後我有一個夢改成「我們」,是延伸自馬丁路德金恩博士的演講「I Have a Dream」XD

三、
yet respect past successes.
追尋文化共識,而非謀求工具尋租

這邊我想 Noah 的意思是尊重the old good glory,並且從昨天的會議採用 Isabel 對於「公益、公民」的正道,所以將工具尋租放進來與文化共識做對照。如果擴寫成長版,就是「追尋零時文化共識,而非謀求web3工具尋租」。尋租文化除了是平台資本主義目前的弊病,也是web3世界正在慢慢出現的潛在危險。g0v是離這件事較遠了,我想可以特別強調。至於要用長版還是短板,都可以!

四、
we will survive, we will progress, we will fit in.
da0持續與台灣一同共融、迭代、擬合。

這邊我將詞彙改成相對geek一點,
survive寫成「共融」,讓多元族群可以在數位社會都過得還不錯。
progress寫成「迭代」,除了成長,也從一次次的版本中進步,這也符合Noah想要強調的「堆疊」之概念
fit in寫成「擬合」,這是人工智慧學術用語,是演算法在預測實際世界時,可以正確預測,卻又不會過於偏向於某些特殊案例。我想web3工具的通用性,也很適合使用擬合這個概念,而擬合的重要前提,便是要不斷迭代,創造通用世界的共融。

其他翻譯我有寫在HackMD裏面,歡迎隨時修改,歡迎下一棒!
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billy3321 16:23:55
沒問題,永遠都要假設還有人不想數位化,我們的服務、宣言、看法也要涵容他們~
billy3321 16:25:40
我覺得超棒!
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:25:56
@shihtung.lo has joined the channel
n0ah 16:27:26
Love it! @mashbean
mashbean 豆泥 16:34:50
@shihtung.lo 仕東是打開當代藝術工作站的站長,是藝術家也是策展人,也是我的好朋友!仕東在web3世界做了非常大量的收藏、社群、論述工作,也是 Volume DAO 成員, Vol DAO 是一個藝術收藏策展的DAO。我覺得da0在發展過程中,有藝術家觀點提問、討論、成長,是一個非常好的事情!
非常同意
mashbean 豆泥 16:34:50
@shihtung.lo 仕東是打開當代藝術工作站的站長,是藝術家也是策展人,也是我的好朋友!仕東在web3世界做了非常大量的收藏、社群、論述工作,也是 Volume DAO 成員, Vol DAO 是一個藝術收藏策展的DAO。我覺得da0在發展過程中,有藝術家觀點提問、討論、成長,是一個非常好的事情!
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非常同意
chihao 16:35:50
原來仕東最近在忙這個!好久不見 XD @shihtung.lo
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chihao 16:35:50
原來仕東最近在忙這個!好久不見 XD @shihtung.lo
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:36:03
hihi 大家好 被豆泥拎了進來~
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:36:03
hihi 大家好 被豆泥拎了進來~
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OCAC - ssshihtung 16:36:33
@chihao yooo 之浩,超久沒見XDD
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:36:33
@chihao yooo 之浩,超久沒見XDD
mashbean 豆泥 16:36:48
mashbean@gmail.com 不好意思遲回了!
chihao 16:36:55
對啊 XDD
chihao 16:36:55
對啊 XDD
n0ah 16:37:43
歡迎!!!
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n0ah 16:37:43
歡迎!!!
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:38:25
好久沒用slack,好生疏哈哈哈
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OCAC - ssshihtung 16:38:25
好久沒用slack,好生疏哈哈哈
chihao 16:38:31
好久沒吃到那家豬腳(?)
chihao 16:38:31
好久沒吃到那家豬腳(?)
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:40:02
來呀XD!! 豆泥家就在附近,殼以一起去吃 lolll
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:40:02
來呀XD!! 豆泥家就在附近,殼以一起去吃 lolll
chihao 16:40:10
還有米苔目!
chihao 16:40:10
還有米苔目!
chihao 16:40:17
只知道吃 XDD
chihao 16:40:17
只知道吃 XDD
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:40:27
還有廟口!
OCAC - ssshihtung 16:40:27
還有廟口!
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