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vtaiwan-en

Month: 2018-10

2018-10-11

patcon 12:48:25
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patcon 13:18:35
Hoping that this works: Typing a messag in #vtaiwan-en in english will translate it and send it to #vtaiwan. Mandarin messages in #vtaiwan also get translated into English for #vtaiwan-en :slightly_smiling_face:
@null 13:21:05
^^^ is this a terrible idea? --- powered by Google Translate

@null 13:40:45
I can buy few out of my pocket, vendor needed though --- powered by Google Translate

@null 15:27:52
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pm5 15:28:05
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@null 15:28:31
Test the translation of the vtiwan sla relaxation channel from "Civic Tech Toronto" [translated by ] [translated by ]

fiorella 15:29:29
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@null 15:30:44
ok, testing revealed that three-way bridges might be a little buggy, but I will work on it offline and try to fix it before exploring the connection of other slack teams 🙂

@null 15:33:17
Loose team: the_horns: [translated by ]

chihao 15:33:41
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@null 15:39:06
I think it's a super cool idea.

@null 15:40:55
"Too much slack work space is a bit annoying" [translated by ]

@null 18:08:18
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patcon 18:46:54
i heard back from the hackerspace about fabricating circuit boards: members recommend using pcbway.com or http://tw.taobao.com/market/tw/twxz.php

let's order them this week, @sylin 🙂

going to grab some quick food, and then head to the open house tonight at Taipei Hackerspace, if anyone wants to come: https://taipeihack.org/

ref: https://hackmd.io/txrNRnNVSW-jI0kFH_udXg?view

tw.taobao.com

淘宝台湾新站

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taipeihack.org

Taipei Hackerspace

The Taipei Hackerspace is an open and public workshop to do any kind of DIY projects, from electronics to 3D printing, from urban farming to clothes hacking.

hackmd.io

g0v: Sociometric Badges - HackMD

@null 18:47:27
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@null 18:47:57
hm. seems urls don't translate well. will fix tomorrow

@null 21:13:19
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2018-10-12

yitzu 10:11:30
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@null 10:52:51
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2018-10-13

@null 09:02:36
I looked at the 10/10 pen. The meaning of Yu Cang should refer to the practice of balancing the human rights of the Internet and minimizing the harm after the nude photos have been circulated. [translated by ]

@null 09:02:58
This should be a part of the discussion that day. [translated by ]

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2018-10-15

Peace 00:45:57
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@null 09:20:14
NCII _vTaiwan_ Women's Fan Cooperation Questionnaire Results Report
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rZ0jVqVI2CwhSL8r_J9JerxQwKcSwEfv/view?usp=sharing
Word card used to report the newsletter
https://g0v.hackmd.io/VZaFmaPGTWmOHTbAQawm4Q?view
Any additional advice is welcome. [translated by ]

@null 11:57:07
@olivebranch.a Anything to help on Wednesday, you can open a work list for everyone to claim [translated by ]

@null 12:01:01
The funds here can only give everyone a bread box. If you don't have enough food, you may have to trouble yourself to send it out. XD should be okay now. The law will help, but there is only one microphone at present, for the live broadcast, By the time of trouble holding a microphone people can speak Oh 🙏 [translated by ]

@null 14:15:01
@ky Weakly ask, Polis has no way to apply for an individual, is it normal?
This page will not be used
https://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw/signin/5nckzdszrc [translated by ]

@null 14:15:17
Apply for an individual? [translated by ]

@null 14:17:09
Can't find sign up, so I can't sign in? [translated by ]

@null 14:18:10
@olivebranch.a (continue to weakly ask) Does the former Guoju invited experts or some people who have had a questionnaire, have contacted them to write polis or participate in 7/31 Komatsu? [translated by ]

@null 14:19:06
Seems to only sign in with facebook? [translated by ]

@null 14:21:30
But this option ignores me (then I am weakly anonymous)... [translated by ]

@null 14:21:33
@Peace should be PDIS polis to turn off the registration, so if you don't have an account, you can only log in with facebook. [translated by ]

@null 14:21:57
@wildjcrt Thank you~ I got it. [translated by ]

@null 14:22:02
Thanks for reminding, can only be provided to the national giant in the form of sharing to see if it can be forwarded to the people they contacted before, but can not ask for 喔 [translated by ]

@null 14:23:51
Sure. Thank you:) [translated by :google:]

@null 14:29:33
But I remember I saw you in the background. [translated by ]

@null 14:38:21
I just thought that something bad was discovered. [translated by ]

2018-10-16

@null 18:28:17
@olivebranch.a Originally, will the time for "comparison of various legislative drafts" be transferred to iWin to share "network protection and grievance processing sharing"? [translated by ]

@null 18:28:57
Yu Cang has been in contact with iWin these days, and they also provided a briefing report. [translated by ]

@null 18:28:59
Can also be shared by iWin when sharing discussions? [translated by ]

@null 18:30:01
I think the part of each bill is a bit too distracting the theme of this conference - the part of network management [translated by ]

@null 18:30:16
@tmonk The host is the biggest, the final decision by the host is finalized XD [translated by ]

@null 18:30:18
In contrast, the theme shared by iWin is directly related to the topic. [translated by ]

@null 18:30:53
So good, then I will make a decision, just saying that the registration page was originally set up so that it is a bit unreasonable to modify it later. [translated by ]

itsmisscs 18:31:28
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@null 18:32:03
And I personally think that... The conclusions of each bill are one - the most complete and comprehensive of the current women's 😄 [translated by ]

@null 18:32:15
The host is also one of the spirits of vTaiwan. You can use vTaiwan's account to change the agenda on KKtix directly. The following is marked with * to explain why it should be OK. [translated by ]

@null 18:33:06
The organizers do not always have the final decision on the agenda of the event? XDD [translated by ]

@null 18:36:00
OK I am in the process of revising, after the introduction of the host's topic, the next step is to share the results of the questionnaire and then come to iWin's "Network Protection and Appeal Processing Sharing". [translated by ]

patcon 18:52:28
Hey all! I was asked at the last meeting to livestream tomorrow's meeting. Is this still helpful? cc @olivebranch.a (as someone mentioned to ask you)

Is there any sort of guide or documentation for how this is usually done?

Also, full disclosure: There is a chance I might not be able to make it this week, as my partner is coming into the city and it's her first night :heart: (I should know for sure by morning)
olivebranch.a 2018-10-16 20:22:25
We will livestream tomorrow’s meeting on vTaiwan Facebook page. 😊
Ok! If I'm able to make it tomorrow, I'm happy to create a runsheet with what I learn, so that others can more freely step into the role without hesitancy :) Example from Civic Tech Toronto: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hbkZArGYcE1rI8_7QoRavMtWmqts4A7a1sdHxXq-aXQ/edit?usp=drivesdk
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@null 19:05:14
^^^hm. found a bug in the translation bridge 🙂 cc @olivebranch.a

@null 19:05:57
For any english-speakers <!here>, just an FYI that #vtaiwan-en is now a thing (auto-translates all the messages in here into English 🎉

olivebranch.a 20:20:32
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frederic 23:18:06
Hi everyone, my name is Frederic, I'm a Belgian currently living in the US. I'll be visiting Taiwan and will join the hackaton on October 31. I've written a book about self-management in organizations ("Reinventing Organizations") that has become a global bestseller (it's currently in translation into traditional chinese characters). I'm currently researching participatory democracy practices, and that's why I'm coming to Taiwan to research vTaiwan. 😀

I already got to interview with skype Shuyang and Audrey, but I'm excited to be in Taiwan and get to see and meet you. 😁
frederic 23:26:28
Currently, the *Uber* case is the main case that has been somewhat documented in English. I'm hoping to understand two more cases in detail. I'm wondering if one of you who has worked on an interesting case would be willing to spend an hour with me on Wednesday October 31 before the hackathon or on the day before (Tuesday Oct 30).

And if you are interested, I'm happy to share stories of other impressive experiments in other places around the world!
Peace 23:36:18
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2018-10-17

patcon 01:09:26
@frederic🖖
@null 11:24:07
@ky Excuse me, do I still need to help report this evening? [translated by ]

@null 11:25:12
It should be okay, @olivebranch said that someone will be responsible, thank you~~ [translated by ]

@null 11:27:26
@ky 咦What report? XD [translated by ]

patcon 11:38:25
Unfortunately, I need to uncommit from livestreaming so that I can be a little less rushed with my airport pickup 😞 I'm sorry, but I'll step up another week! We're still going to try to drop in, just might be a bit late
@null 12:04:23
Report to XDDDDD [translated by ]

@null 13:19:59
👍 , we will be ready to sign in 👍 [translated by ]

@null 18:17:25
Tonight, the assistant of the office of the beauty office can't come. [translated by ]

@null 18:36:50
May I ask who I am going to at the Social Innovation Center? [translated by ]

@null 18:38:53
You can look for it on the first floor to see if anyone has come to XD first.
Or go directly to the meeting room on the second floor. [translated by ]

@null 18:42:10
Hmm can we add original message link in the end of translated msgs? That can help if translated msg is not easy to understand

@null 18:45:34
Okay I am in the conference room first. [translated by ]

@null 19:19:25
[Disappearing my own private photo in violation of my wishes] Controlling the content of online content Online consultation conference live, welcome everyone to watch & online discussion! https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/192274775006375/?hc _ref=ARQVHSElH7glzVnA9OIiGg8dqS7f8Tn6JTK89A-iG_ kRFQrCITW3xNK2fkDFV _0_ 0o8&fref=gs&dti=387816094628136&hc_location=group [translated by ]

please see the co-note for this discussion
https://g0v.hackpad.tw/2018-10-17-vTaiwan--piqja95kk07
patcon 19:28:21
@irvin was working out last night how to add easy permalinks to the translations. Curious to get more feedback too :)
patcon 19:28:39
@lizbarry and I are on our way. Maybe 30 min
Peace 19:32:20
please see the co-note for this discussion
https://g0v.hackpad.tw/2018-10-17-vTaiwan--piqja95kk07

g0v.hackpad.tw

2018-10-17 vTaiwan 【拒絕裸照外流】談網路內容之管制措施線上諮詢會議共筆

影片 <https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/192274775006375/> *議程 <https://vtaiwan>.

@null 20:43:07
Live broadcast
https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/192274775006375/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDUwNjg2MjU3MDpWSzoxODYzNTkyMTIzNzE3MTg1/?multi _permalinks=1863592123717185¬if_ id=1539774984824811¬if _t=feedback_ reaction _generic
_ Comparison of bills
https://g0v.hackmd.io/M6 dN3PDQoCmV _jbr9mB-A?view
_ Mind map
https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J kygU1II=/ [translated by ]

2018-10-18

@null 00:13:01
Does anyone see Komatsu donation box? Go home and didn't find it. I wonder if it will be left in the kitchen by QQ. [translated by ]

@null 01:00:23
Was it not because I didn’t have a key last week, so I couldn’t put it back in the office? [translated by ]

@null 02:53:27
Hi, everyone, I would like to ask 10/31 "Inter-departmental and private data exchange system", whether to discuss data exchange, or to have the opportunity to discuss the program (calculation) on the data side to execute, send the results back Mode? (similar to MIT OPAL architecture)
https://t.cj.sina.com.cn/articles/view/5901272611/15fbe462301900lf7q [translated by ]

@null 02:54:44
Because I seem to have the impression that au has a similar structure in helping Guogao [translated by ]

@null 07:28:03
@pofeng Yes, yes, please refer to this briefing p8, the current word is "Bring code to data" https://event.nchc.org.tw/2018/openhouse/templates/files/C2-從IoT到雲端智慧預測-以民生公共物聯網為例(林錫慶).pdf [translated by ]

@null 08:52:46
I remembered it, and finally I asked the guard to keep it. [translated by ]

@null 09:31:32
@tmonk Do you want to put vTaiwan official website yesterday? [translated by ]

@null 11:14:41
Hello, everyone, Komatsu next Wednesday wants to discuss with you. Maybe in November or December, you can spend twice or twice in Komatsu to discuss vTaiwan in your mind (representing each other), build mutual understanding, share your thoughts and want to try.
The initial idea is to coordinate with everyone. A (PDIS and) community is relatively free time, b. agenda and c. discussion mode (facilitator?). Thanks~~ [translated by ]

@null 11:57:31
#vtaiwan-en keeps translating 小松 into Komatsu.....

@null 11:59:49
komatsu XDDDDDDDDDDDD [translated by ]

@null 11:59:53
Someone in Japan has been sneezing all the time. [translated by ]

@null 12:00:00
komatsu no mistake
http://www.komatsuairport.jp/ [translated by ]

patcon 12:16:24
Haha I have been trying to figure that one out :)
@null 15:26:42
It turned out to be an airport [translated by ]

2018-10-19

@null 01:02:12
I feel that since it now feels that the version of the Women's Aid Society is more complete, it is really necessary to disclose their drafts so that interested parties can look at them carefully, otherwise they will not see the draft. There is really no room for discussion. [translated by ]

@null 01:02:49
As I did yesterday, if I didn’t discuss the contents of the draft, I’m talking about it. [translated by ]

itsmisscs 08:03:53
Simultaneous translation is incredible. Thank you to the crew that made this happen <3
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@null 13:10:11
Provide notes from seven participants interviewed last year:
https://hackmd.io/s/ryT4xywjQ [translated by :google:]

patcon 13:50:35
@sylin 🎉 🎉 🎉 🙌 🙌
@null 13:59:16
what happened [translated by ]

patcon 14:03:14
@achemistd: @sylin shared interviews. (Messages unfortunately get "unthreaded" through the translation bridge. Sorry, there's no great way to fix that!)
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shuyang 14:19:00
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@null 14:19:44
lol

@null 16:31:09
Missing [translated by ]

@null 16:41:50
Well, it’s been a year too :) [translated by :google:]

2018-10-20

patcon 20:14:27
I'm thinking about disabling all translation for messages coming into #vtaiwan, so that translation isn't forced on all you folks who speak both. Should I do that?

(I can then create #vtaiwan-tw, and have all messages written in other languages auto-translate to mandarin in there.)

2018-10-22

@null 17:08:39
Komatsu registration & co-writing here this week
https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/34fa4d9b-copy-7
https://g0v.hackpad.tw/20181024-vTaiwan-xHUkJdMjomp

&lt;https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540199318000100|本周小松報名&amp;共筆在此 https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/34fa4d9b-copy-7 https://g0v.hackpad....&gt;

ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff 22:13:53
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2018-10-24

@null 00:32:48
This week there will be a Summit listened to you not understand my friends understand civil servants into the pit ❤️ ️

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540312367000100|本週會有一位 Summit 聽了你的明白不是我的明白的公務員朋友入坑 :heart::vtaiwa...>

@null 00:46:26
I want to know what he understands.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540313185000100?thread_ts=1540312367.000100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|想知道他的明白是甚麼>

@null 18:33:49
Booked a pizza~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540377228000100|訂了披薩～>

@null 22:43:55
https://pol.is/7sbbavbdsn

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540392234000100|https://pol.is/7sbbavbdsn>

patcon 23:05:28
Message for anyone who cares: I'm here until morning of Dec 17 :)
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2018-10-25

Michael_li 00:04:45
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@null 16:21:14
🙌

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540455673000100?thread_ts=1540312367.000100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|:raised_hands:>

@null 21:56:32
By the end of the year?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540475792000100?thread_ts=1540392234.000100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|到年底嗎？>

2018-10-27

patcon 12:07:59
Is anyone from vTaiwan applying for a g0v grant?
patcon 12:08:31
I have a few ideas to submit, but would want to workshop them with others :)
@null 19:28:07
@sylin I am Michael_LI / To-do: Comic Chinese/Taiwanese

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540639686001300|@sylin 　我是 Michael_LI　／　待辦事項：漫畫　中文／台語>

2018-10-28

@null 22:13:32
At least until December.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540736011001500?thread_ts=1540392234.000100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|預計到12月吧>

2018-10-29

@null 17:35:34
https://www.facebook.com/weatherrisk/videos/517114028700243/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540805733002200|https://www.facebook.com/weatherrisk/videos/517114028700243/>

@null 17:35:45
Live broadcast of Open Data Next today

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540805745002600|今天 Open Data Next 的直播>

@null 17:36:16
Therefore, the National Development Association is set to be adjusted. The next direction of open information should not be a separate law, but a way to maximize the government information disclosure law.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540805775003100|所以國發會算是定調了，開放資料接下來的方向應該不是另立專法，而是想�...>

@null 21:50:47
Excuse me... What is the theme of the vTaiwan discussion on Wednesday?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540821045005200|請問一下... 這週三的 vTaiwan 討論主題是什麼呢？>

2018-10-30

@null 10:31:11
https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/47a429c7

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540866671005400?thread_ts=1540821045.005200&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/47a429c7>

2018-10-31

@null 08:53:59
Thank you!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540947238005900?thread_ts=1540821045.005200&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|謝謝！>

patcon 18:47:49
Running a little late, but omw down from OTF Summit. Also, Stefania Milan wants to come stop in and visit as well. She thinks she can head down in like an hour, if we're still going
https://stefaniamilan.net/about-me
@null 19:12:17
Is there a pen today?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540984336006300|今天有共筆嗎？>

@null 19:14:13
<!here>

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540984453006600|@here>

@null 19:15:07
Live broadcast here
https://www.facebook.com/groups/g0v.general/permalink/1885401751536222/

&lt;https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540984506006800|直播在此 https://www.facebook.com/groups/g0v.general/permalink/1885401751536222/&gt;

@null 19:17:18
https://g0v.hackpad.tw/2018-10-17-vTaiwan--piqja95kk07

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540984637007100|https://g0v.hackpad.tw/2018-10-17-vTaiwan--piqja95kk07>

@null 19:17:31
A total of pens are here.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540984651007800|共筆在這裏。>

@null 19:17:36
*Here

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540984655008000|*這裡>

@null 19:24:49
A total of pens here
https://g0v.hackpad.tw/2018-10-31-vTaiwan--piqja95kk07

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540985089008800|https://g0v.hackpad.tw/2018-10-31-vTaiwan--piqja95kk07>

@null 19:28:55
My hackpad is hanging

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540985334009200|我的hackpad掛了>

patcon 19:30:21
should we switch to hackmd?
@null 19:30:45
Orz, hackpad hangs again?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540985444009800|orz, hackpad 又掛了嗎>

patcon 19:31:30
could someone drop the realtime board link in the meantime?
@null 19:44:15
<!here> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14J8Mf4aITpNqj4Zrgjb2eHks3a7RTZCU9-dlPXBzRnc/edit?usp=sharing

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540986255014000|@here https://docs.google.com/document/d/14J8Mf4aITpNqj4Zrgjb2eHks3a7RTZCU9-dlPXBzRnc/edit?usp=shari...>

@null 19:49:36
Thanks, can you open the editing rights to everyone?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540986575014200?thread_ts=1540986255.014000&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|感謝，可以開編輯權限給所有人嗎>

patcon 19:50:08
@kevinliao 🙌
@null 20:01:01
Today's theme is not to be changed to: [to hand over the information! 】 Inter-departmental data use online consultation meeting

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1540987258015300?thread_ts=1540986255.014000&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|今天的主題是不是要改成：【把資料交出來！】跨部門資料運用線上諮詢會�...>

patcon 20:06:31
@olivebranch.a I think stefania is almost here
olivebranch.a 2018-10-31 20:43:09
Really? I haven’t seen her yet 😎
hm. maybe i misunderstood when she was leaving...
olivebranch.a 2018-10-31 20:55:30
She is here, outside
olivebranch.a 2018-10-31 20:55:37
With another guy
patcon 20:17:05
i really hope stefania feels like contributing when she gets here. the politics of data are totally the mission of her group:

> We are DATACTIVE, a research project and a research collective exploring the politics of big data broadly defined. We take a critical look at massive data collection, privacy and surveillance | social movements, activism and internet activism | internet infrastructure, cybersecurity and their governance | open data and civic tech networks.

https://data-activism.net/