#facilitation-fest-nyc
2018-05-01
lizbarry
03:08:32
that would be cool if possible
devin
04:13:12
yes I'm aware
devin
04:19:22
Since the sloan money would pass through Sarapis I could create a page on the sarapis.org site with basic info and/or I could create an Open Collective page under the Sarapis Host Organization https://opencollective.com/sarapisorg#
dzn
06:05:35
Noel’s feedback on using the vtaiwan url — ‘There should be a local page. If not, you need to talk about how this money can help build that page...’
dzn
06:08:35
@sylin @fang @olivebranch.a @au Can we please get bios and pictures for the training website please. We will be promoting the event using the website, pointing potential sponsors and media to it, and eventually hosting the training videos there. This is the template we will use — https://nyc.g0v.network/
olivebranch.a
2018-05-01 16:18:45
Let’s talk about this on 10PM/AM call?
Audrey Tang, a civic hacker and Taiwan’s Digital Minister in charge of Social Innovation, is known for revitalizing global open source communities such as Perl and Haskell. Audrey served on Taiwan national development council’s open data committee and K-12 curriculum committee; and led the country’s first e-Rulemaking project. Prior to joining the cabinet, Audrey was a consultant with Apple on computational linguistics, with Oxford University Press on crowd lexicography, and with Socialtext on social interaction design.
As for picture, you can use http://audreyt.org/audrey.jpg (high res for print), http://www.opensourceopensociety.com/img/speakers/audrey.jpg (for web); https://pixabay.com/en/users/audreytang-6659931/ (CC0); or any of the portraits at https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyt/page1
As for picture, you can use http://audreyt.org/audrey.jpg (high res for print), http://www.opensourceopensociety.com/img/speakers/audrey.jpg (for web); https://pixabay.com/en/users/audreytang-6659931/ (CC0); or any of the portraits at https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyt/page1
Thank you!
dzn
06:08:40
Thank you!
dzn
06:10:48
If you need any more details, we can discuss it on our Wednesday call
itsmisscs
08:03:33
what does he mean by local page?
itsmisscs
08:03:40
a page on the vnetwork site?
itsmisscs
09:36:33
@katehnicholson do you do logo designs? i feel like our lil page needs a logo of sorts…could be simple and mostly text
katenicholson
2018-05-01 13:46:33
Not generally but let’s talk tomorrow. I can probably get a friend or if if it’s simple and I have a sec, can try something.
katenicholson
2018-05-02 04:57:17
Hey - let me know your needs re logo.
dzn
11:03:22
something that speaks to our project and is not the vtaiwan website
dzn
11:04:22
Sent to Joe at AA and David the Director of American Assembly.
dzn
11:04:42
Noel came back with some good suggestions for the Sloan cover letter
dzn
11:05:05
will work on that and send around a note for extra eyes.
itsmisscs
13:32:40
okay. so the site we are working on would satisfy that
katenicholson
13:46:33
Not generally but let’s talk tomorrow. I can probably get a friend or if if it’s simple and I have a sec, can try something.
itsmisscs
20:17:08
coming along. will def need some content help. keeping first pass simple. can refine as we go.
@null
21:33:57
@itsmisscs commented on @itsmisscs’s file in-progress.png: speaker and organizer info are all outputting to the page. currently i’m just pulling from the doc with stub for taiwan team
au
21:37:28
Audrey Tang, a civic hacker and Taiwan’s Digital Minister in charge of Social Innovation, is known for revitalizing global open source communities such as Perl and Haskell. Audrey served on Taiwan national development council’s open data committee and K-12 curriculum committee; and led the country’s first e-Rulemaking project. Prior to joining the cabinet, Audrey was a consultant with Apple on computational linguistics, with Oxford University Press on crowd lexicography, and with Socialtext on social interaction design.
As for picture, you can use http://audreyt.org/audrey.jpg (high res for print), http://www.opensourceopensociety.com/img/speakers/audrey.jpg (for web); https://pixabay.com/en/users/audreytang-6659931/ (CC0); or any of the portraits at https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyt/page1
As for picture, you can use http://audreyt.org/audrey.jpg (high res for print), http://www.opensourceopensociety.com/img/speakers/audrey.jpg (for web); https://pixabay.com/en/users/audreytang-6659931/ (CC0); or any of the portraits at https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyt/page1
itsmisscs
23:12:22
very much WIP. Much of the content is stubbed especially in Tickets section. Another handful of hours today and should have it in a state that we can go out to the world with. Will continue to expand throughout the week. https://network-effects.surge.sh/
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dzn
23:41:37
Thank you!
2018-05-02
katenicholson
04:57:17
Hey - let me know your needs re logo.
itsmisscs
08:45:37
What are we using for tonight’s call?
olivebranch.a
10:03:18
fang and I are ready
Fang
10:04:18
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itsmisscs
10:24:27
room is full
itsmisscs
10:24:37
also is it 10:30/11:30 or 10?
shuyang
10:24:58
ohhhh
shuyang
10:25:02
now
itsmisscs
10:25:05
i thought i t was 10:30/11:30…sorry
shuyang
10:25:14
let me change to zoom
itsmisscs
10:25:15
how about jitsi?
itsmisscs
10:25:48
itsmisscs
10:25:59
lol what does now mean?
shuyang
10:26:08
we are in that meeting now.
shuyang
10:28:41
hey
shuyang
10:28:48
we are in jitsi
dzn
10:29:46
@itsmisscs are you in jitsi?
dzn
10:29:50
can’t hear you
olivebranch.a
10:29:57
can anyone hear me?
itsmisscs
10:30:38
switching to chrome
shuyang
10:42:23
@fiorella here
shuyang
10:48:42
housing and gentrification…
shuyang
10:48:51
😞
shuyang
10:49:00
didn’t say transportation at all
shuyang
10:49:09
but glad that you all like it..
fiorella
10:52:22
@fiorella has joined the channel
npstorey
21:44:53
@nathan.p.storey has joined the channel
npstorey
22:25:40
Sorry I’m bad at Slack and just caught on that this channel for organizing the nyc facilitation training in nyc. Pasting the link to my suggestions for possible participants here. Any timeline for when invites will go out? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZQUqWIqOkdD5Gl6c5Jb9OiIRzWH0MYoxzJg90mNeJy0
2018-05-03
lizbarry
22:57:28
Hi folks, what does everyone's Friday afternoon in NYC schedules look like? Please respond to thread, thanks! @itsmisscs @darshana @devin @katehnicholson @nathan.p.storey and anyone else i forgot to mention ❤️
itsmisscs
2018-05-03 22:58:09
Will be at Orbital early afternoon onward
I can make it. 2PM onwards.
devin
2018-05-03 23:21:23
Free around 3.
lizbarry
2018-05-04 07:07:40
Great! Let's aim for 3pm or as soon thereafter as possible!
npstorey
2018-05-04 07:37:37
Unfortunately I can’t make it tomorrow or the next Friday. I don’t need to insert myself into the decision making process of who gets an invite - mainly want to contribute suggestions and provide any info about nyc gov that may be helpful. Since I have limited/unpredictable time availability I’m happy to contribute when I can as long as it’s useful.
npstorey
2018-05-04 07:38:38
I’ll be ready to send an invite out to any of the people from my list once the invite list is finalized.
devin
2018-05-04 08:19:59
Thx nathan. Hopefully we'll come up with an easy way for you to contribute knowledge on the invite list without it taking too much time. 🙂
agenda for Friday meeting — https://hackmd.io/u6o7ig6VS0ue4_LZsnc2Jw?both
katenicholson
2018-05-04 11:37:18
Hi all - i just moved and am in major catch up mode on a few fronts, so unfortunately don’t have bandwidth tomorrow. Im planning to come next friday. Ill chime in if I see any opportunities to help out until then, otherwise I look forward to coming on board next week.
lizbarry
2018-05-04 20:44:11
thanks Kate! we'll try to be clearer about where a good spot to pitch in might be 🙂 thanks so much for your help last week with editing the form!
patcon
2018-05-05 01:04:02
I have a last-minute appointment with some friends to open a bank account at 3:30-5pm today :(
itsmisscs
2018-05-05 02:46:46
@devin please let us know when you are here so we can buzz you in
devin
2018-05-05 04:20:42
Thx. 15 minish for me. What should I bring? Coissants?
lizbarry
2018-05-05 04:49:54
sure! savory
devin
2018-05-05 04:50:08
To late downstairs
itsmisscs
2018-05-05 05:57:32
@patcon if you free up, we’d love to get you on the phone to talk about people you nominated.
itsmisscs
22:58:09
Will be at Orbital early afternoon onward
dzn
23:00:25
I can make it. 2PM onwards.
devin
23:21:23
Free around 3.
2018-05-04
lizbarry
07:07:40
Great! Let's aim for 3pm or as soon thereafter as possible!
npstorey
07:37:37
Unfortunately I can’t make it tomorrow or the next Friday. I don’t need to insert myself into the decision making process of who gets an invite - mainly want to contribute suggestions and provide any info about nyc gov that may be helpful. Since I have limited/unpredictable time availability I’m happy to contribute when I can as long as it’s useful.
npstorey
07:38:38
I’ll be ready to send an invite out to any of the people from my list once the invite list is finalized.
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devin
08:19:59
Thx nathan. Hopefully we'll come up with an easy way for you to contribute knowledge on the invite list without it taking too much time. 🙂
katenicholson
11:37:18
Hi all - i just moved and am in major catch up mode on a few fronts, so unfortunately don’t have bandwidth tomorrow. Im planning to come next friday. Ill chime in if I see any opportunities to help out until then, otherwise I look forward to coming on board next week.
lizbarry
20:44:11
thanks Kate! we'll try to be clearer about where a good spot to pitch in might be 🙂 thanks so much for your help last week with editing the form!
2018-05-05
patcon
01:04:02
I have a last-minute appointment with some friends to open a bank account at 3:30-5pm today :(
itsmisscs
02:46:46
@devin please let us know when you are here so we can buzz you in
devin
04:20:42
Thx. 15 minish for me. What should I bring? Coissants?
lizbarry
04:49:54
sure! savory
devin
04:50:08
To late downstairs
itsmisscs
05:57:32
@patcon if you free up, we’d love to get you on the phone to talk about people you nominated.
2018-05-06
dzn
04:39:38
@lizbarry sloan 1-pager ready for hand-off to you 🙂
2018-05-07
lizbarry
03:56:53
picking up now
lizbarry
04:07:27
ok i did tiny edits and i'm already done, thank you so much for overhauling this! @itsmisscs, i'm wondering if you can put an eyeball on this now?👀👁️👓👁️🗨️🕶️
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 20:52:22
Took a look @darshana and @lizbarry 💯 My one question is whether it can be on behalf of g0v Network. Your earlier version listed it this way, D.
Is there anything else that goes with the application to the Sloan Foundation?
Is there anything else that goes with the application to the Sloan Foundation?
dzn
04:21:48
@devin @patcon too. We have promised things on all your behalf. Speak now or forever hold your peace.
itsmisscs
05:41:33
Will check when I get home.
devin
08:37:17
hi folks. I put together a temporary page on sarapis for the application - http://sarapis.org/vtaiwan-nyc/
Sarapis
In the spirit of international exchange and with the support of the Taiwanese government, we are pleased to announce the first English language opportunity to learn the facilitation methods that po…
I don’t see anything
devin
2018-05-07 08:55:30
wooooops http://sarapis.org/vtaiwan-nyc/
dzn
08:54:39
I don’t see anything
devin
08:55:30
wooooops http://sarapis.org/vtaiwan-nyc/
Sarapis
In the spirit of international exchange and with the support of the Taiwanese government, we are pleased to announce the first English language opportunity to learn the facilitation methods that po…
dzn
08:56:00
@darshana pinned a message to this channel.
Devin Balkind
wooooops http://sarapis.org/vtaiwan-nyc/
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- 2018-05-07 08:55:30
itsmisscs
19:58:09
morning @patcon, could you setup a subdomain for the site? Two Friday’s ago agreed to go with `training.g0v.network` for this first version.
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 20:12:07
I created a new repo for training.g0v.network. I was a bit frustrated with Jekyll site when I sat down to work on it. So…I did what every dev should not do and I started clean with a static site generator called Gatsby. It functions similarly, static markdown content, can be autodeployed.
For speed, I set it up on Netlfy (a heroku for static sites) which also powers a nifty little CMS setup for admin folks (can demo). We can easily point Netlify to custom DNS or I can move the contents of the site into the other repo. Here’s how we can setup Gatsby with Heroku https://www.gatsbyjs.org/docs/deploy-gatsby/#heroku.
For speed, I set it up on Netlfy (a heroku for static sites) which also powers a nifty little CMS setup for admin folks (can demo). We can easily point Netlify to custom DNS or I can move the contents of the site into the other repo. Here’s how we can setup Gatsby with Heroku https://www.gatsbyjs.org/docs/deploy-gatsby/#heroku.
patcon
2018-05-07 22:15:55
i've heard great things about netlify, so 👍
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 22:18:17
Cool beans. I have you admin access. I can also set it and send you details for DNS.
patcon
2018-05-07 22:19:36
okie doke, i'll check email and get custom domains set up on netlify. thanks!
patcon
2018-05-07 22:29:25
ok done in aws route53, but DNS not showing up yet 🙂
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:02:41
thanks, @patcon! waiting by for DNS 👩🚀🏾
itsmisscs
20:02:19
@olivebranch.a @fang @sylin do you have any photos from a prior PO workshop? thanks in advance!
itsmisscs
20:12:07
I created a new repo for training.g0v.network. I was a bit frustrated with Jekyll site when I sat down to work on it. So…I did what every dev should not do and I started clean with a static site generator called Gatsby. It functions similarly, static markdown content, can be autodeployed.
For speed, I set it up on Netlfy (a heroku for static sites) which also powers a nifty little CMS setup for admin folks (can demo). We can easily point Netlify to custom DNS or I can move the contents of the site into the other repo. Here’s how we can setup Gatsby with Heroku https://www.gatsbyjs.org/docs/deploy-gatsby/#heroku.
For speed, I set it up on Netlfy (a heroku for static sites) which also powers a nifty little CMS setup for admin folks (can demo). We can easily point Netlify to custom DNS or I can move the contents of the site into the other repo. Here’s how we can setup Gatsby with Heroku https://www.gatsbyjs.org/docs/deploy-gatsby/#heroku.
itsmisscs
20:39:02
Here’s the completed site with the content areas we discussed on Friday—link to fill out the application, link to sponsorship prospectus. https://trainingg0vnetwork.netlify.com. Anyone can edit any of the content in Github https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network. Most everything is in `data` or `content` with some minor exceptions. Any code committed to `master` will auto deploy. I’ve asked @patcon to setup the agreed upon subdomain for the project.
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itsmisscs
20:40:26
Feel free to open up issues as well. ^^
itsmisscs
20:52:22
Took a look @darshana and @lizbarry 💯 My one question is whether it can be on behalf of g0v Network. Your earlier version listed it this way, D.
Is there anything else that goes with the application to the Sloan Foundation?
Is there anything else that goes with the application to the Sloan Foundation?
lizbarry
22:10:20
WOW!!!!!!!
lizbarry
22:13:20
For @patcon, the criteria is "the capacity and influence to deploy participatory processes at scale; including, government officials from cities worldwide, community organizers, and academics."
patcon
22:15:55
i've heard great things about netlify, so 👍
itsmisscs
22:18:17
Cool beans. I have you admin access. I can also set it and send you details for DNS.
patcon
22:19:36
okie doke, i'll check email and get custom domains set up on netlify. thanks!
patcon
22:29:25
ok done in aws route53, but DNS not showing up yet 🙂
patcon
22:59:15
re: g0v.network email.
patcon
2018-05-07 22:59:37
great idea! but we're on route53, and they don't do email forwarding 😞
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:01:02
i can add us to mayfirst. we can all be admins which will give us access to admin email address etc
patcon
2018-05-07 23:01:30
for now, we can use https://improvmx.com/ to forward all incoming email addresses to g0v.network@googlegroups.com. that'll keep a record outside individual mailboxes for posterity
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:01:36
on plus side we’ll get a nextcloud instance and unlimited email addresses
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:02:06
Great ++ all for it
patcon
2018-05-07 23:03:54
also, would love to stay thoughtful on wearing the banner of "g0v.network" judiciously -- we're not yet able to organize a community like theirs, so it feels a little funny for a handful of us to wear the whole big name, if that makes sense 🙂
patcon
2018-05-07 23:04:39
also, should the g0v.network@googlegroups.com list be public or private?
patcon
2018-05-07 23:05:38
(google groups can be renamed, so if we decide we want a public mailbox later, we can switcheroo it and vacate the high-level namespace)
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:06:17
public makes sense to me. private for now because of applications?
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:07:39
open by default
patcon
2018-05-07 23:25:09
ok, so this improvmx.com service isn't working. options: 1) switch domain to a place with email forwarding, or 2) subscribe to something like https://forwardmx.io/pricing for $9/year
any objection to (2)? or should we do a domain xfer to a shared account real quick, with email forwarding?
any objection to (2)? or should we do a domain xfer to a shared account real quick, with email forwarding?
devin
2018-05-07 23:25:40
I'd vote for any email address --> google group be a private group. You never know what people are going to send and people don't generally associate email with publishing/public.
devin
2018-05-07 23:27:30
also - I'm not particularly comfortable with us claiming personal g0v.network email addresses at this point either. I'd keep it general.
patcon
2018-05-07 23:28:00
yep, we'd have to make a larger effort to communicate how we work. my impression is g0v has the constant work of socializing the "we are not a normal group" thing. but happy to kick the can on that for now
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:28:11
i agree with general
patcon
2018-05-07 23:28:50
I'll create an account on forwardmx.io
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:28:58
but could also see city specific email addy’s…we are too small for such asbtractions. one inbox for all
patcon
2018-05-07 23:29:15
my credit is shit, so might be safer if someone with a better credit card attaches theirs, but seems i don't need one for now
patcon
2018-05-07 23:29:42
re: username / password (see link to credential library trello card below)
devin
2018-05-07 23:30:59
Sarapis has a free/nonprofit Google Apps account that could host email if needed.
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:32:36
If we’re between Google and Mayfirst, can we go with a service aligned with our values? You can use IMAP to receive your mail in your google inbox and we can create a google user, if we so desire
itsmisscs
2018-05-07 23:33:39
multiple people can have admin rights to the hosting order easily
devin
2018-05-07 23:34:25
definitely fine with me
patcon
2018-05-07 23:37:01
sorry, is it ok if i just use this forwardmx? i just feel close, and i've shared the password here so everyone can have access, so it feels nice and accessible to all 🙂
devin
2018-05-07 23:38:26
also fine with me. Just don't want to see you paying for something we can get vfree but maybe it's free so - yay progress. 🙂
patcon
2018-05-07 23:44:03
heh, no unfortunately not free, but just something we can all share credentials to, which i really love!
patcon
2018-05-07 23:44:16
hopefully will be ready to go in 300 seconds
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/
patcon
2018-05-08 00:53:57
ah man, this is laaaame. the update of mx records just isn't showing up yet. supposedly they advise up to 48 hours, but i've never seen it take so long
I've got to run to have a meeting, but I've linked my personal AWS account credentials in the trello card above if someone wants to go into AWS and transfer the domain to another shared account. I'd greatly prefer that if it's being transferred, it gets a quick +1 from someone, and that it go to an account with credentials that can be linked in that doc 🙂 but i'll let it to y'all!
I've got to run to have a meeting, but I've linked my personal AWS account credentials in the trello card above if someone wants to go into AWS and transfer the domain to another shared account. I'd greatly prefer that if it's being transferred, it gets a quick +1 from someone, and that it go to an account with credentials that can be linked in that doc 🙂 but i'll let it to y'all!
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 01:08:40
I am finishing up a PR for work then I can look into it if someone hasn’t. on mayfirst we each have our own accounts with same admin access to hosting order. i don’t think we should share the admin account for our servers publicly.
patcon
2018-05-08 02:58:26
@itsmisscs def whatever works, but it's not public -- it's in a google doc with locked down access to just some select few -- just to make one simple level of access-control for now. all-or-nothing for passwords until we outgrow that 🙂
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 03:53:10
👀 that’s public #deepstate 😉
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 04:20:08
i switched nameservers in route 53….taking a bit. going to take the pup out
patcon
22:59:37
great idea! but we're on route53, and they don't do email forwarding 😞
itsmisscs
23:01:02
i can add us to mayfirst. we can all be admins which will give us access to admin email address etc
patcon
23:01:30
for now, we can use https://improvmx.com/ to forward all incoming email addresses to g0v.network@googlegroups.com. that'll keep a record outside individual mailboxes for posterity
improvmx.com
Free painless email forwarding for your domains. Set up catch-all email forwarding in seconds. No fees. No registration. No clutter.
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itsmisscs
23:01:36
on plus side we’ll get a nextcloud instance and unlimited email addresses
itsmisscs
23:02:06
Great ++ all for it
itsmisscs
23:02:41
thanks, @patcon! waiting by for DNS 👩🚀🏾
patcon
23:03:54
also, would love to stay thoughtful on wearing the banner of "g0v.network" judiciously -- we're not yet able to organize a community like theirs, so it feels a little funny for a handful of us to wear the whole big name, if that makes sense 🙂
patcon
23:04:39
also, should the g0v.network@googlegroups.com list be public or private?
patcon
23:05:38
(google groups can be renamed, so if we decide we want a public mailbox later, we can switcheroo it and vacate the high-level namespace)
itsmisscs
23:06:17
public makes sense to me. private for now because of applications?
patcon
23:25:09
ok, so this improvmx.com service isn't working. options: 1) switch domain to a place with email forwarding, or 2) subscribe to something like https://forwardmx.io/pricing for $9/year
any objection to (2)? or should we do a domain xfer to a shared account real quick, with email forwarding?
any objection to (2)? or should we do a domain xfer to a shared account real quick, with email forwarding?
devin
23:25:40
I'd vote for any email address --> google group be a private group. You never know what people are going to send and people don't generally associate email with publishing/public.
devin
23:27:30
also - I'm not particularly comfortable with us claiming personal g0v.network email addresses at this point either. I'd keep it general.
patcon
23:28:00
yep, we'd have to make a larger effort to communicate how we work. my impression is g0v has the constant work of socializing the "we are not a normal group" thing. but happy to kick the can on that for now
itsmisscs
23:28:11
i agree with general
patcon
23:28:50
I'll create an account on forwardmx.io
itsmisscs
23:28:58
but could also see city specific email addy’s…we are too small for such asbtractions. one inbox for all
patcon
23:29:15
my credit is shit, so might be safer if someone with a better credit card attaches theirs, but seems i don't need one for now
patcon
23:29:42
re: username / password (see link to credential library trello card below)
devin
23:30:59
Sarapis has a free/nonprofit Google Apps account that could host email if needed.
itsmisscs
23:32:36
If we’re between Google and Mayfirst, can we go with a service aligned with our values? You can use IMAP to receive your mail in your google inbox and we can create a google user, if we so desire
itsmisscs
23:33:39
multiple people can have admin rights to the hosting order easily
devin
23:34:25
definitely fine with me
patcon
23:37:01
sorry, is it ok if i just use this forwardmx? i just feel close, and i've shared the password here so everyone can have access, so it feels nice and accessible to all 🙂
devin
23:38:26
also fine with me. Just don't want to see you paying for something we can get vfree but maybe it's free so - yay progress. 🙂
patcon
23:44:03
heh, no unfortunately not free, but just something we can all share credentials to, which i really love!
patcon
23:44:16
hopefully will be ready to go in 300 seconds
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/
2018-05-08
itsmisscs
00:03:30
Should we have an airtable form for training.g0v signups or just direct to g0v.network for “email updates” button?
npstorey
00:28:26
Hey - I have a sick kid on my hands today, so may not have a chance to add email addresses to the outreach document until later tonight
no problem! Hope kiddo feels better soon 💗
npstorey
2018-05-08 09:34:22
Hi - I added contact info for the people from my list. Missing contact info for Gale Brewer, Carlos Menchaca, and Vlada Kenniff, but I can try to get it if needed.
I can get that info. Meeting Noel on Thursday. Thanks a lot @nathan.p.storey for adding the rest!
dzn
00:37:30
Hi @lizbarry @itsmisscs @patcon @devin I’m starting a new thread so we can discuss what is need to submit the Sloan grant.
I see the comments on using the group name for submission. My mistake. Sorry! I wrote my name down at the very beginning when this was a more informal ask and then didn’t think about it until now. I will put down all of our names as Principal Investigators (we can’t just put a group name down since they need to know who to hold accountable). I will ask Noel if it’s ok just to use the group email or if a point person is needed for correspondence.
lizbarry
2018-05-08 00:38:57
I am still interested in the group format
lizbarry
2018-05-08 00:39:33
i just told my non-profit that my name won't be mentioned on this (as we also work with Sloane), so this is not a great solution for me as i'd have to go back and re-disclose conflict of interest with my nonprofit
lizbarry
2018-05-08 00:40:05
We are a group, and this is how we can push philanthropy along, by working as a collective. Using a group name, and a group email.
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 00:40:13
we have a group email address now, too so we don’t have to use talkto
It’s not my understanding of how grants work but we can try. I’ll put group name and send
Also, would be good if everyone went through the list of promises we made and put their name against the outcome that they are willing to be in-charge of/work on. Anything that is not claimed, we should consider removing.
We’ve promised quite a bit
video, manual, wiki, online measures, follow-up calls etc.
lizbarry
2018-05-08 00:48:11
Thanks for shepherding this D. I agree its important that we look at the outcomes, i'll go do that now. The name thing is also important, and an moment of slippage that can pose a threat to collective dynamics. ❤️
🙂
Two other questions:
- thoughts on proposed end time? (I’m guessing that is something like a timeline for completion)
- Should we ask for more than $15,000. That money was for the event and video alone. We have included quite a bit beyond.
@lizbarry ^^
- thoughts on proposed end time? (I’m guessing that is something like a timeline for completion)
- Should we ask for more than $15,000. That money was for the event and video alone. We have included quite a bit beyond.
@lizbarry ^^
@itsmisscs website looks great!! To add it to the grant and send today or tomorrow, we need one quick round of edits or we can include it as a work in progress that is part of the grant ask (suggestion from Noel when we didn’t have a final website to show). Thoughts?
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 01:04:31
Add it into the grant. I can make some edits tonight. Please feel free to edit any and all content. I just stubbed stuff in to provide an idea of how it tells the story
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 01:04:46
thanks! 🙂
Great! I can take a look at content.
Other kinds of feedback, how would you like?
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 01:10:03
Github issues are good. That way there’s accountability and a trail.
👍🏾
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 01:10:42
Known issues i should move over to GH after work
```
trainer section image sizing
menu on smaller devices
need PO image..looks bare
add social links for trainers
add social links for team
```
```
trainer section image sizing
menu on smaller devices
need PO image..looks bare
add social links for trainers
add social links for team
```
@devin will you take a look at the sponsorship bit on the g0v.network website please and see if that looks fine to you. Thanks for putting together the training content!! Since g0v.network is up and running let’s just use this for the application?
devin
2018-05-08 01:45:28
The text is fine. The top level menu links don't all seem to work.
itsmisscs
2018-05-08 03:52:28
they should scroll to containers but it isn’t ideally…stops too far up. Can replace those…use regular links for now.
update: Noel wants to meet on Thursday morning to workshop the sloan submission and make sure we get everything right. Any edits you want to make, do before that please (also, don’t forget to take a look at the outcomes list). Tx!
dzn
00:37:42
I see the comments on using the group name for submission. My mistake. Sorry! I wrote my name down at the very beginning when this was a more informal ask and then didn’t think about it until now. I will put down all of our names as Principal Investigators (we can’t just put a group name down since they need to know who to hold accountable). I will ask Noel if it’s ok just to use the group email or if a point person is needed for correspondence.
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lizbarry
00:39:33
i just told my non-profit that my name won't be mentioned on this (as we also work with Sloane), so this is not a great solution for me as i'd have to go back and re-disclose conflict of interest with my nonprofit
lizbarry
00:40:05
We are a group, and this is how we can push philanthropy along, by working as a collective. Using a group name, and a group email.
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itsmisscs
00:40:13
we have a group email address now, too so we don’t have to use talkto
dzn
00:41:00
It’s not my understanding of how grants work but we can try. I’ll put group name and send
dzn
00:42:07
Also, would be good if everyone went through the list of promises we made and put their name against the outcome that they are willing to be in-charge of/work on. Anything that is not claimed, we should consider removing.
dzn
00:42:14
We’ve promised quite a bit
dzn
00:42:55
video, manual, wiki, online measures, follow-up calls etc.
lizbarry
00:48:11
Thanks for shepherding this D. I agree its important that we look at the outcomes, i'll go do that now. The name thing is also important, and an moment of slippage that can pose a threat to collective dynamics. ❤️
dzn
00:48:28
🙂
dzn
00:53:41
Two other questions:
- thoughts on proposed end time? (I’m guessing that is something like a timeline for completion)
- Should we ask for more than $15,000. That money was for the event and video alone. We have included quite a bit beyond.
@lizbarry ^^
- thoughts on proposed end time? (I’m guessing that is something like a timeline for completion)
- Should we ask for more than $15,000. That money was for the event and video alone. We have included quite a bit beyond.
@lizbarry ^^
patcon
00:53:57
ah man, this is laaaame. the update of mx records just isn't showing up yet. supposedly they advise up to 48 hours, but i've never seen it take so long
I've got to run to have a meeting, but I've linked my personal AWS account credentials in the trello card above if someone wants to go into AWS and transfer the domain to another shared account. I'd greatly prefer that if it's being transferred, it gets a quick +1 from someone, and that it go to an account with credentials that can be linked in that doc 🙂 but i'll let it to y'all!
I've got to run to have a meeting, but I've linked my personal AWS account credentials in the trello card above if someone wants to go into AWS and transfer the domain to another shared account. I'd greatly prefer that if it's being transferred, it gets a quick +1 from someone, and that it go to an account with credentials that can be linked in that doc 🙂 but i'll let it to y'all!
dzn
01:03:26
@itsmisscs website looks great!! To add it to the grant and send today or tomorrow, we need one quick round of edits or we can include it as a work in progress that is part of the grant ask (suggestion from Noel when we didn’t have a final website to show). Thoughts?
itsmisscs
01:04:31
Add it into the grant. I can make some edits tonight. Please feel free to edit any and all content. I just stubbed stuff in to provide an idea of how it tells the story
itsmisscs
01:04:46
thanks! 🙂
dzn
01:07:29
no problem! Hope kiddo feels better soon 💗
dzn
01:08:24
Great! I can take a look at content.
itsmisscs
01:08:40
I am finishing up a PR for work then I can look into it if someone hasn’t. on mayfirst we each have our own accounts with same admin access to hosting order. i don’t think we should share the admin account for our servers publicly.
dzn
01:09:28
Other kinds of feedback, how would you like?
itsmisscs
01:10:03
Github issues are good. That way there’s accountability and a trail.
dzn
01:10:20
👍🏾
itsmisscs
01:10:42
Known issues i should move over to GH after work
```
trainer section image sizing
menu on smaller devices
need PO image..looks bare
add social links for trainers
add social links for team
```
```
trainer section image sizing
menu on smaller devices
need PO image..looks bare
add social links for trainers
add social links for team
```
- ✅1
dzn
01:29:12
@devin will you take a look at the sponsorship bit on the g0v.network website please and see if that looks fine to you. Thanks for putting together the training content!! Since g0v.network is up and running let’s just use this for the application?
patcon
02:58:26
@itsmisscs def whatever works, but it's not public -- it's in a google doc with locked down access to just some select few -- just to make one simple level of access-control for now. all-or-nothing for passwords until we outgrow that 🙂
itsmisscs
03:52:28
they should scroll to containers but it isn’t ideally…stops too far up. Can replace those…use regular links for now.
itsmisscs
03:53:10
👀 that’s public #deepstate 😉
itsmisscs
04:06:56
Folks (@patcon @devin @lizbarry @darshana ) what should the group email be…`algo@g0v.network`
itsmisscs
04:07:11
nobodies?
itsmisscs
04:07:28
northamerica? hello? hi?
devin
04:08:50
I'd vote for hi@ or info@
patcon
04:43:13
my 2c would be resolution =< "north america" 🙂 i'd love to stay mindful that the distinction between g0v.network and g0v.tw will not be clear to people who come across it -- we even sound "higher up". what about mapping `nyc.training@g0v.network => g0v-network@googlegroups.com` because we can always tweak-alias or rename googlegroup down the road
my preference would be below, but whatever you think best, given about context: 🙂
nyc.training > nyc > northamerica > americas >>> info > hi etc
my preference would be below, but whatever you think best, given about context: 🙂
nyc.training > nyc > northamerica > americas >>> info > hi etc
devin
04:52:00
tbh I'm pretty uncomfortable with the g0v.network framing because we don't have a shared statement about who we are, what we want, and how people can join us, what are our shared values, what responsibilities we're taking for the brand, how can we be held accountable, etc.
devin
04:58:19
as such - I'd agree that nyc-training@ would be best - keeps it specific to this event.
npstorey
09:34:22
Replied to a thread: 2018-05-08 00:28:26
Hi - I added contact info for the people from my list. Missing contact info for Gale Brewer, Carlos Menchaca, and Vlada Kenniff, but I can try to get it if needed.
dzn
10:43:36
update: Noel wants to meet on Thursday morning to workshop the sloan submission and make sure we get everything right. Any edits you want to make, do before that please (also, don’t forget to take a look at the outcomes list). Tx!
dzn
10:44:31
I can get that info. Meeting Noel on Thursday. Thanks a lot @nathan.p.storey for adding the rest!
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npstorey
22:56:47
Oh! Just thought of another potential invite. Somebody from the Coro New York Leadership Center. They have worked in nyc gov and non-profit leadership development for decades. I did a training there once that was great. I have a contact there if you are interested. Check out their theory of change: https://coronewyork.org/about-coro/coros-theory-of-change/
Coro New York
Our Theory of Change was developed to reflect the change we want to see in the world and to guide our current and future programs.
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katenicholson
23:24:05
Hey <!channel> - where are we making invite suggestions?
katenicholson
23:35:19
Thanks!
dzn
23:35:24
🙂
2018-05-09
lizbarry
06:30:20
nyc.training@g0v.network sounds great to me too!
lizbarry
06:32:12
Hi all, are we on for a 10pm call tonight?
itsmisscs
09:54:15
Shall we use the vnetwork jitsi line?
shuyang
09:58:49
yup
itsmisscs
2018-05-09 10:01:10
Can you slack me the call in details ? 😝
itsmisscs
2018-05-09 10:01:24
The phone number...
itsmisscs
10:01:10
Can you slack me the call in details ? 😝
itsmisscs
10:01:24
The phone number...
dzn
10:02:03
what’s the line
dzn
10:02:10
can you slack please
dzn
10:03:56
itsmisscs
10:05:21
@darshana can you send me the phone number? It's on the bottom.
dzn
10:16:35
expand transportation access into areas not served?
how do you counter gentrification and build diversity into city neighborhoods?
How to build smart cities that are not run by corporations?
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
how do you counter gentrification and build diversity into city neighborhoods?
How to build smart cities that are not run by corporations?
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
lizbarry
10:19:19
So grateful to people on this call right now (sleeeeeepyyyy)
shuyang
10:21:58
Fang-Jui Chang
4:30 AM Today
*Possible issues:
1. Artificial insemination policy for single women.
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
3. Drunk driving issue.
4. Housing.
4:30 AM Today
*Possible issues:
1. Artificial insemination policy for single women.
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
3. Drunk driving issue.
4. Housing.
shuyang
10:22:29
the
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
is very related to
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
is very related to
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
shuyang
10:23:46
taipeitimes.com
Perpetrators of ACCIDENTS due to drunk driving always arouse public fury. Three such notorious cases are those of Yeh Kuan-heng (葉冠亨), nicknamed “Master Yeh” because of his wealthy background, British businessman Zain Dean and, most recently, a hostess who worked at the Golden Jaguar club in Taichung.![]()
olivebranch.a
10:28:47
my messages are on jitsi, just a reminder 😅
shuyang
10:36:37
ps,
my algo when moderating Artificial insemination 🙂
if (人 which is 不分性傾向&&不分婚姻狀態&&不分身體構造){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡)
人.生殖權 == yes
if (人.婚姻狀態 === single && 人.sex_orientation === 異性戀) 人.婚姻權 == yes
}
construct 人() {
人(){
sex = undefined // defined by doctor
age = 0
sex_identity = undefined // defined by law
sex_orientation = undefined // define by oneself
生殖權 = no
婚姻權 = no
婚姻狀態 === single }
update(sex, age){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡){
生殖權 == yes
warning (“define 法定生殖年齡“) }
if (sex_identity === male) if (age > 18) 婚姻權 == yes
if (sex_identity === female) if (age > 20) 婚姻權 == yes
}
}
if (人.生殖權 == yes){
生殖價值 attach 平等
if (人 apply 助孕科技 === legal && 人 apply 避孕科技 === legal){
生殖價值 attach 自由
}}
my algo when moderating Artificial insemination 🙂
if (人 which is 不分性傾向&&不分婚姻狀態&&不分身體構造){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡)
人.生殖權 == yes
if (人.婚姻狀態 === single && 人.sex_orientation === 異性戀) 人.婚姻權 == yes
}
construct 人() {
人(){
sex = undefined // defined by doctor
age = 0
sex_identity = undefined // defined by law
sex_orientation = undefined // define by oneself
生殖權 = no
婚姻權 = no
婚姻狀態 === single }
update(sex, age){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡){
生殖權 == yes
warning (“define 法定生殖年齡“) }
if (sex_identity === male) if (age > 18) 婚姻權 == yes
if (sex_identity === female) if (age > 20) 婚姻權 == yes
}
}
if (人.生殖權 == yes){
生殖價值 attach 平等
if (人 apply 助孕科技 === legal && 人 apply 避孕科技 === legal){
生殖價值 attach 自由
}}
- 👀1
- 🎀1
dzn
11:09:05
424 W 54th St (between 9th and 10th aves), New York, NY
shuyang
11:37:53
optimistic futures @ NZ
https://www.optimisticfutures.nz/
https://www.optimisticfutures.nz/
shuyang
11:41:38
Bodystorming is a technique sometimes used in interaction design or as a creativity technique. The idea is to imagine what it would be like if the product existed, and act as though it exists, ideally in the place it would be used. It is going through an idea with improvised artifacts and physical activities to envision a solution. This User Experience Design (UXD) technique is ideal to design physical spaces (e.g. the interior design of a shop) but can also be used to design physical products or software.
shuyang
11:42:18
Ash at CIID
Tim Brown of IDEO speaks here on the importance of the (work/play?) environment used by leading design teams worldwide. Closely connected is the ideation method called Bodystorming, a complimentary to Brainstorming, which we practiced at CIID recently. We borrowed the challenge of building a ‘Cartoon House’ from early Xerox PARC attempts to use the process to envision future technologies. Bill Verplank was our principal instructor, guide and crit for the mini-project. Bodystorming is essentially an immersive ideation process for groups, where simulation, role-playing, play acting and interactive prototyping become the materials for design. It takes the design group of of the studio and into the real world where design creations live, amongst people with real problems and desires. Nevertheless, this world is an elaborate simulation designed for the team to live with those needs/problems/desires rather than simply ‘talk’ about them. Ideas for solutions are ‘built’, not sketched, taking full of the scalability of paper prototyping techniques. The solutions are then placed context, used (in simulation), new insights and problems derived, and the process is repeated all over again. Consequent iterations serve to move the team through a remarkable range of refinement in ideas. An interesting connection here is Brend Laurel’s work positioning design as theatre, which I would like to explore more here sometime. Our team worked on a futuristic living room concept design based on the persona of Jason – a married twenty-something Taiwanese male, living alone and away from his wife Janice while studying in Copenhagen. Technologies possibly 20 years into the future were considered. In addressing Jason’s needs and desires, the living room was designed to help Jason better manage his long-distance relationship, provide ready outlets to his strong technological and gaming interests, and promote his social life in a new city with a very different culture than his own. In presenting the concept to Bill and team of teachers, we enacted out a typical weekday evening in the life of Jason, therefore demonstrating the use of the many technologies embedded into his living room. Jason in his simulated living room. Janice is 'generated' next to Jason on his memory couch for an evening chat. Widgets of all kinds populate Jason's interactive window. A wall for idea generation while bodystorming. Simulation of VR video game playable on Jason's living room table.
2018-05-10
lizbarry
08:39:13
hi North America crew, is there any chance we could do our crowdfunding worktime that we scheduled for Friday on Saturday instead?
dzn
08:58:03
I can do before 1PM on Saturday.
itsmisscs
10:16:31
Site is resolving http://training.g0v.network/
training.g0v.network
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
itsmisscs
2018-05-10 10:56:25
For some reason Let’s Encrypt settings are throwing an error. I’ll open up a help ticket. Should have https soon.
itsmisscs
10:54:20
Thread: Team email is up and running. `nyctraining.g0v.network`. @darshana @lizbarry @devin @patcon
itsmisscs
2018-05-10 10:55:08
All email forwards to your personal account. To send mail using the account through gmail, following these directions https://github.com/g0vNYC/hub/blob/3f9822dd64ef94fb745646eb9705875e7faa4b5f/email-setup.md#configure-your-account-to-send-mail-as-your-project-email-account. Use the username and password you received in DM.
itsmisscs
2018-05-10 10:55:53
@darshana, you would use your talktonyc username and password. let me know if you need those reset
lizbarry
2018-05-10 22:52:35
AWESOME!
I can get into the talkto email. tx.
itsmisscs
2018-05-11 23:01:42
It’s your personal one, not hi but darshana@talkto.nyc
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:30:45
thank you! I follwed these directions and everything worked great, just need to know what the link is for checking mail on MayFirst to confirm that i have access to that inbox in order to forward to gmail. @itsmisscs let me know if you know what the link is!
Hey. Sorry I am late to get on this. I will need a reset I think.
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:36:11
ok i didint' need what i thought i needed, and mine is working -- thanks @itsmisscs AKA web genie!
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 09:11:43
There's no mayfirst webmail for g0v accounts. It's all forwarding to personal accounts.
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 09:12:44
If you get it in your personal account, you are set. Follow the directions in github to allow you to send mail as the email addy.
@itsmisscs the email I received had your email on it not mine
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 09:13:41
Which one?
itsmisscs
10:55:08
All email forwards to your personal account. To send mail using the account through gmail, following these directions https://github.com/g0vNYC/hub/blob/3f9822dd64ef94fb745646eb9705875e7faa4b5f/email-setup.md#configure-your-account-to-send-mail-as-your-project-email-account. Use the username and password you received in DM.
GitHub
hub - :balloon: Start here for how to get involved and other documentation. A resource for new and veteran members.
itsmisscs
10:55:53
@darshana, you would use your talktonyc username and password. let me know if you need those reset
itsmisscs
10:56:25
For some reason Let’s Encrypt settings are throwing an error. I’ll open up a help ticket. Should have https soon.
lizbarry
22:52:35
AWESOME!
2018-05-11
itsmisscs
00:47:53
Are we still meeting tomorrow for weekly checkin? @darshana @patcon @lizbarry @devin
itsmisscs
2018-05-11 00:49:03
If so, can we agree on a start time where we can review the agenda + go through Trello.
katenicholson
2018-05-11 08:58:42
I could come after 2pm!
itsmisscs
2018-05-11 23:02:07
Whose still on for work session/check-in today?
I can start around 2PM too.
itsmisscs
2018-05-12 01:47:19
@devin or @lizbarry are you either of you joining today?
devin
2018-05-12 01:47:42
I could be there 330-6ish
lizbarry
2018-05-12 01:47:58
i am till finishing another Public Lab grant! a giant 3-year behemoth of 170 + pages
lizbarry
2018-05-12 01:48:08
i can connect tmrw
itsmisscs
2018-05-12 01:49:12
@devin are you available tomorrow? if not, we can have work session tomorrow and connect on general progress today
katenicholson
2018-05-12 01:50:07
Okay. If we connect on gen progress let’s make it at 4/5? Don’t need more than an hour and, so it doesn’t chop the day.
katenicholson
2018-05-12 01:50:19
Good luck @lizbarry !
itsmisscs
2018-05-12 02:05:56
4-5 for checkin works. i added a few items to the agenda.
devin
2018-05-12 02:33:23
We meeting at orbital 4-5 or is this all virtual?
katenicholson
2018-05-12 02:36:10
I was gonna ask the same...
katenicholson
2018-05-12 02:36:35
What’s good @itsmisscs @darshana ?
4PM is good for me
itsmisscs
2018-05-12 02:36:54
4-5 checkin
itsmisscs
2018-05-12 02:36:57
can be whatever…
oh oops. Didn’t see the question clearly. If it’s only for 1 hour, I prefer virtual.
katenicholson
2018-05-12 03:13:38
Okay - appear in link?
itsmisscs
2018-05-12 03:55:16
Sorry I will be 10 min late. Have to wrap up a work call.
katenicholson
2018-05-12 03:59:06
All good, @darshana @devin so a 410 start
itsmisscs
00:49:03
If so, can we agree on a start time where we can review the agenda + go through Trello.
itsmisscs
00:59:27
@sylin @fang do you have any photos from past PO workshops that you can share with me? Thanks in advance!
Fang
2018-05-11 10:44:00
Sure! I'll upload some photos to google drive and share the link.
itsmisscs
01:20:52
Added issues for the website to Github. If you have any others, don’t hesitate to add an issue. https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network/issues
GitHub
training.g0v.network - English language facilitation training site
itsmisscs
2018-05-11 01:21:24
@darshana @lizbarry sent you both owner invites to the org + project
katenicholson
08:58:42
I could come after 2pm!
dzn
10:19:59
I can get into the talkto email. tx.
Fang
10:44:00
Replied to a thread: 2018-05-11 00:59:27
Sure! I'll upload some photos to google drive and share the link.
shuyang
13:15:55
oops
itsmisscs
23:01:13
Thank you @sylin @fang
itsmisscs
23:01:42
It’s your personal one, not hi but darshana@talkto.nyc
itsmisscs
23:02:07
Whose still on for work session/check-in today?
2018-05-12
dzn
01:35:21
I can start around 2PM too.
itsmisscs
01:47:19
@devin or @lizbarry are you either of you joining today?
devin
01:47:42
I could be there 330-6ish
lizbarry
01:47:58
i am till finishing another Public Lab grant! a giant 3-year behemoth of 170 + pages
lizbarry
01:48:08
i can connect tmrw
itsmisscs
01:49:12
@devin are you available tomorrow? if not, we can have work session tomorrow and connect on general progress today
katenicholson
01:50:07
Okay. If we connect on gen progress let’s make it at 4/5? Don’t need more than an hour and, so it doesn’t chop the day.
katenicholson
01:50:19
Good luck @lizbarry !
itsmisscs
02:05:56
4-5 for checkin works. i added a few items to the agenda.
devin
02:33:23
We meeting at orbital 4-5 or is this all virtual?
katenicholson
02:36:10
I was gonna ask the same...
katenicholson
02:36:35
What’s good @itsmisscs @darshana ?
dzn
02:36:50
4PM is good for me
itsmisscs
02:36:54
4-5 checkin
itsmisscs
02:36:57
can be whatever…
dzn
02:40:53
oh oops. Didn’t see the question clearly. If it’s only for 1 hour, I prefer virtual.
katenicholson
03:13:38
Okay - appear in link?
itsmisscs
03:24:27
itsmisscs
03:55:16
Sorry I will be 10 min late. Have to wrap up a work call.
itsmisscs
04:48:44
itsmisscs
04:51:42
itsmisscs
05:15:48
I had some questions about some cards that we didn’t get to address on the phone. Going to ping folks here for updates/discussion
itsmisscs
2018-05-12 05:16:43
@devin what’s the plan with media event on 13th https://trello.com/c/VXKbbSij
itsmisscs
05:16:43
@devin what’s the plan with media event on 13th https://trello.com/c/VXKbbSij
lizbarry
21:57:26
Good morning! I'm looking forward to getting caught up here and on the Trello and in the docs. I have some family stuff for the next 3 hours and then will check in
itsmisscs
22:28:45
Morning. When do we want to sync to work on the script?
dzn
22:57:57
I am out for the day sadly but will leave notes in trello for sloan, which is my news for the week
2018-05-13
lizbarry
01:40:11
What's your schedule today @itsmisscs? I'll also be available tmrw early afternoon thru 7pm
itsmisscs
2018-05-13 01:47:21
I’m around and working today. I wanted to get a move on the critical items we agreed on yesterday then get going on invites and sponsor money. I will also be working tomorrow. Perhaps we connect then on the script?
itsmisscs
2018-05-13 01:47:51
I feel a little too flustered by the other smaller pieces to focus on content today. Will feel better knowing we have invites and money requests out in the world.
lizbarry
2018-05-13 01:59:56
Ok sounds like I need to first get caught up on the trello
lizbarry
2018-05-13 03:49:28
I'm arranging with PatCon to review the spreadsheet for invitations, wanna get on a phone call?
itsmisscs
01:47:21
I’m around and working today. I wanted to get a move on the critical items we agreed on yesterday then get going on invites and sponsor money. I will also be working tomorrow. Perhaps we connect then on the script?
itsmisscs
01:47:51
I feel a little too flustered by the other smaller pieces to focus on content today. Will feel better knowing we have invites and money requests out in the world.
lizbarry
01:59:56
Ok sounds like I need to first get caught up on the trello
lizbarry
03:49:28
I'm arranging with PatCon to review the spreadsheet for invitations, wanna get on a phone call?
2018-05-14
dzn
05:52:39
@lizbarry @devin @itsmisscs @patcon starting new thread for Sloan grant.
I have made last and (hopefully!) final edit to sloan grant.
I think this part is good to go. Noel wants to send it to his person at sloan ASAP. I will have it out by tomorrow with our sponsorship doc.
Sloan needs names with the cover letter, we can’t get by with group name and email. @lizbarry you are not comfortable putting your name on? Who else does not want their name on?
They also need a budget sheet (which we can send later) — https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Se3noI_2vfA0YKO0HNw1Pd5TPdBOd3s5rqJoBJ9nWMA/edit#gid=0
we can ask for some $ for the time we put into this. What are thoughts on this?
According to Noel, a fair asking price is 3K for 1 month. He said for one main organizer, but we can ask the same amount and just split it. Actually, I am going to try for $1000 each. @lizbarry can you accept money for the project?
we should also ask for $ for each of the outcome projects—video, manual, wiki. What amount is acceptable?
@itsmisscs update on website fixes?
itsmisscs
2018-05-14 06:14:08
Finishing up but in tonight.
itsmisscs
2018-05-14 06:15:16
Thanks for the updates on the grant.
itsmisscs
2018-05-14 06:16:39
Video is 3-5k. Manual and wiki I am not certain. We should factor server costs of 20$ per month.
sounds good. Thanks!!
lizbarry
2018-05-14 10:50:15
Thank you D!
lizbarry
2018-05-14 10:50:33
I will check in on my side abt name
lizbarry
2018-05-14 10:52:56
I expect / hope to hear back early AM. If I don't maybe you guys go ahead without me on this
We have a bit of time. As long as it’s tomorrow..
lizbarry
2018-05-15 03:08:42
seems like i can go on solo as an individual (not listed as staff member of Public Lab, for instance). Can you share what the name of the program officer at Sloane is? thanks! and then i think it's GTG
cool! Shall I put your name in as one of the PIs then?
The person’s name is Justin I think
can ask Noel
lizbarry
2018-05-15 03:20:04
great, thanks!
lizbarry
2018-05-15 06:56:11
Hi @darshana, thanks for pushing on this. how much later will we be able to send this budget sheet?
He wants it all together 😞
working on it now
almost done!
take a look?
lizbarry
2018-05-15 06:58:02
yes?
2 min!
🙂
dzn
05:54:09
I have made last and (hopefully!) final edit to sloan grant.
dzn
05:54:44
I think this part is good to go. Noel wants to send it to his person at sloan ASAP. I will have it out by tomorrow with our sponsorship doc.
dzn
05:55:31
Sloan needs names with the cover letter, we can’t get by with group name and email. @lizbarry you are not comfortable putting your name on? Who else does not want their name on?
dzn
05:56:35
They also need a budget sheet (which we can send later) — https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Se3noI_2vfA0YKO0HNw1Pd5TPdBOd3s5rqJoBJ9nWMA/edit#gid=0
dzn
05:58:41
we can ask for some $ for the time we put into this. What are thoughts on this?
dzn
06:01:23
According to Noel, a fair asking price is 3K for 1 month. He said for one main organizer, but we can ask the same amount and just split it. Actually, I am going to try for $1000 each. @lizbarry can you accept money for the project?
dzn
06:06:06
we should also ask for $ for each of the outcome projects—video, manual, wiki. What amount is acceptable?
dzn
06:09:48
@itsmisscs update on website fixes?
itsmisscs
06:14:08
Finishing up but in tonight.
itsmisscs
06:15:16
Thanks for the updates on the grant.
itsmisscs
06:16:39
Video is 3-5k. Manual and wiki I am not certain. We should factor server costs of 20$ per month.
dzn
06:29:24
sounds good. Thanks!!
lizbarry
10:52:56
I expect / hope to hear back early AM. If I don't maybe you guys go ahead without me on this
dzn
10:53:56
We have a bit of time. As long as it’s tomorrow..
2018-05-15
Fang
00:21:23
@darshana @itsmisscs This is the interesting project I mentioned last Wednesday - 'What if we could turn planning policy into algorithmic code?' I saw this in an exhibition at Future City Catapult.
lizbarry
03:08:42
seems like i can go on solo as an individual (not listed as staff member of Public Lab, for instance). Can you share what the name of the program officer at Sloane is? thanks! and then i think it's GTG
dzn
03:12:11
cool! Shall I put your name in as one of the PIs then?
dzn
03:12:28
The person’s name is Justin I think
dzn
03:12:32
can ask Noel
lizbarry
03:20:04
great, thanks!
lizbarry
05:48:29
Hi organizers, just FYI i've heard back from my Consensys connection who CC'd in a "c-level" from the company, and Eric Gordon from Engagement Lab has a question about "if there's only one day i could attend, which should it be". Looking forward to working on these tmrw
lizbarry
06:56:11
Hi @darshana, thanks for pushing on this. how much later will we be able to send this budget sheet?
dzn
06:56:51
He wants it all together 😞
dzn
06:56:57
working on it now
dzn
06:57:00
almost done!
dzn
06:57:03
take a look?
lizbarry
06:58:02
yes?
dzn
06:58:57
2 min!
dzn
06:58:58
🙂
dzn
07:09:45
@lizbarry budget sheet ^^
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lizbarry
2018-05-15 07:11:38
wow this format. Thanks for working on this!
lizbarry
2018-05-15 07:12:50
is your name really Darshans?
lizbarry
2018-05-15 07:12:56
also: "Hors d'oeuvre"
lizbarry
2018-05-15 07:14:48
IT LOOKS FANTASTIC
lizbarry
2018-05-15 07:14:52
💯
lol
fixing everything
including my name 😄
lizbarry
07:11:38
wow this format. Thanks for working on this!
lizbarry
07:12:50
is your name really Darshans?
lizbarry
07:12:56
also: "Hors d'oeuvre"
lizbarry
07:14:48
IT LOOKS FANTASTIC
lizbarry
07:14:52
💯
dzn
07:17:02
lol
dzn
07:17:08
fixing everything
dzn
07:17:17
including my name 😄
dzn
07:20:06
Also, does any one have a CV on hand to send to Sloan. I have mine but the more the merrier.
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@lizbarry Thanks!! Got yours 🙂
impressed I am!!
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:47:31
lol i should really reformat. had the same one for like....years
try this for CV formatting
a LaTeX skin
saved my life
they have some good templates!
lizbarry
07:56:09
Where can i submit an issue about the speaker's image ratios on http://training.g0v.network/?
@itsmisscs I added an issue on Fang’s request
also, sloan will probably look at website tomorrow.
@lizbarry @itsmisscs if you have time tomorrow, maybe we can all do some website work? I’d like to work on some of the content, @lizbarry will be awesome if we can work together on that part. I am free any time after lunch.
lizbarry
2018-05-15 10:03:12
Ok Team Toronto will open a video link!
excellent!! 🙂
dzn
08:18:59
some budget changes @devin convinced me that reception will not cost that much and that we should probably keep things under 20k
lizbarry
08:19:19
nice
dzn
08:19:48
@lizbarry saw the comments you made on the google doc. It’s a bit outdated. Started working on word to get thir formatting correct
lizbarry
08:20:03
ok no prob
dzn
08:20:18
if it looks ok to you, we are good to go!
dzn
08:21:50
I can’t figure out how to get into my personal g0v.network email 😞 so used my regular email plus common one
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:22:35
that's too bad, but i suppose it's not the end of the world
if you give me some tips I can fix that now 🙂
how did you do it?
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:23:24
let me find the instructions.....will be a minute real quick
ok!
Thanks thanks
ah! got your email. that explains it. Mine has CS’s email on it (like yours has ebarry@)
wires got crossed
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:38:59
ok i did the thing. i am receiveing mail but my outgoing messages when i set my own address to be nyctraining@g0v.network are not sending yet
I am receiving email too. Can’t send either
are you able to log into hi@talkto.nyc? I can’t seem to
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:42:29
what is the website to go to to check mail there? i hope i didn't mess up any password stuff
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:45:26
ok i got the "sending as nyctraining@g0v.network" to work. had to go back into gmail settings and update password
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:53:41
ok i don't know how to check webmail for hi@talkto.nyc, but it's still sending and receiving from my ebarry@gmail.com account perfectly. @darshana, can you run a check on it?
I can’t seem to access the hi@ account
I am receiving the training@ emails in my gmail inbox though!!
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:56:05
did you get my recent series of tests to hi@ to and from myself?
hi@ or training@
?
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:57:43
_just_ now, hi@
don’t think so
what did you say
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:58:11
ah ok. so seems like there's a broken pipe on that one.
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:58:27
subject line: "testing send-as hi@talkto.nyc"\
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:58:41
and subject line: "testing if i still get this! (might have messed something up)"
didn’t get that one
lol
nope. not that one either
BUT.. nyctraining works!!
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:59:26
well you missed a scintillating conversation between me and myself
lizbarry
2018-05-15 08:59:55
ok let's fix it tmrw, @itsmisscs & @patcon and i together ALL DAY
hahahahaha. I’d hate to get in the way of that (you and yourself I mean)
cool cool. Thanks!!
I’ll send Noel stuff now and cc nyctraining@
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:00:42
ok so do you want to do any more tests of the nyctraining@g0v.network?
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:00:52
i'm about to fall out of my chair with sedentary-ness
that seems to work!
is it nice walking weather in toronto??
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:01:27
sweet, thanks for shipping this tonight!
👍 💪
any time!! I can’t wait to ship this off. It’s been a WHILE
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:01:56
it was warm today but our hemisphere has turned our backs on the sun
hopefully all the work pays off (literally!)
Wow Liz. Trigger happy much?
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:02:56
'night D!
night!
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:03:07
👀
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:03:17
i can't look away
it’s my favorite!!
sooo good.
lizbarry
2018-05-15 09:04:12
that's mesmerizing ok i have to force quit this day now ❤️
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 09:08:12
I sent directions on how to send. You have to set it up in your gmail.
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 09:09:32
That's how to set up your gmail. If you have issues, ping me and we can work on it.
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 09:10:28
No one has a personal g0v account. We are using mail forwarding. Everything goes in and out of your email address (gmail accounts for most of you).
lizbarry
2018-05-16 05:26:59
thanks CS!
dzn
08:22:08
lol. I call it artistic license
lizbarry
08:22:35
that's too bad, but i suppose it's not the end of the world
lizbarry
08:22:52
ok great! it looks nice and spiffy on one page
It worked out but how I hate word!!
dzn
08:23:05
if you give me some tips I can fix that now 🙂
dzn
08:23:11
how did you do it?
lizbarry
08:23:24
let me find the instructions.....will be a minute real quick
dzn
08:23:42
It worked out but how I hate word!!
dzn
08:23:50
ok!
dzn
08:23:53
Thanks thanks
dzn
08:25:28
@lizbarry Thanks!! Got yours 🙂
dzn
08:25:39
impressed I am!!
dzn
08:29:06
ah! got your email. that explains it. Mine has CS’s email on it (like yours has ebarry@)
dzn
08:29:21
wires got crossed
lizbarry
08:30:45
thank you! I follwed these directions and everything worked great, just need to know what the link is for checking mail on MayFirst to confirm that i have access to that inbox in order to forward to gmail. @itsmisscs let me know if you know what the link is!
dzn
08:35:06
Hey. Sorry I am late to get on this. I will need a reset I think.
lizbarry
08:36:11
ok i didint' need what i thought i needed, and mine is working -- thanks @itsmisscs AKA web genie!
lizbarry
08:38:59
ok i did the thing. i am receiveing mail but my outgoing messages when i set my own address to be nyctraining@g0v.network are not sending yet
dzn
08:39:24
I am receiving email too. Can’t send either
dzn
08:39:40
are you able to log into hi@talkto.nyc? I can’t seem to
lizbarry
08:42:29
what is the website to go to to check mail there? i hope i didn't mess up any password stuff
lizbarry
08:45:26
ok i got the "sending as nyctraining@g0v.network" to work. had to go back into gmail settings and update password
lizbarry
08:47:31
lol i should really reformat. had the same one for like....years
lizbarry
08:53:41
ok i don't know how to check webmail for hi@talkto.nyc, but it's still sending and receiving from my ebarry@gmail.com account perfectly. @darshana, can you run a check on it?
dzn
08:54:23
I can’t seem to access the hi@ account
dzn
08:54:44
I am receiving the training@ emails in my gmail inbox though!!
dzn
08:55:16
try this for CV formatting
dzn
08:55:17
overleaf.com
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dzn
08:55:28
a LaTeX skin
dzn
08:55:32
saved my life
dzn
08:55:47
they have some good templates!
lizbarry
08:56:05
did you get my recent series of tests to hi@ to and from myself?
dzn
08:57:20
hi@ or training@
dzn
08:57:22
?
lizbarry
08:57:43
_just_ now, hi@
dzn
08:57:58
don’t think so
dzn
08:58:07
what did you say
lizbarry
08:58:11
ah ok. so seems like there's a broken pipe on that one.
lizbarry
08:58:27
subject line: "testing send-as hi@talkto.nyc"\
lizbarry
08:58:41
and subject line: "testing if i still get this! (might have messed something up)"
dzn
08:58:43
didn’t get that one
dzn
08:58:57
nope. not that one either
dzn
08:59:23
BUT.. nyctraining works!!
lizbarry
08:59:26
well you missed a scintillating conversation between me and myself
lizbarry
08:59:55
ok let's fix it tmrw, @itsmisscs & @patcon and i together ALL DAY
dzn
09:00:22
cool cool. Thanks!!
dzn
09:00:40
I’ll send Noel stuff now and cc nyctraining@
lizbarry
09:00:42
ok so do you want to do any more tests of the nyctraining@g0v.network?
lizbarry
09:00:52
i'm about to fall out of my chair with sedentary-ness
dzn
09:01:05
that seems to work!
dzn
09:01:21
is it nice walking weather in toronto??
lizbarry
09:01:27
sweet, thanks for shipping this tonight!
👍 💪
dzn
09:01:47
any time!! I can’t wait to ship this off. It’s been a WHILE
lizbarry
09:02:56
'night D!
dzn
09:02:59
dzn
09:03:05
night!
lizbarry
09:03:07
👀
lizbarry
09:03:17
i can't look away
dzn
09:03:28
it’s my favorite!!
dzn
09:03:32
sooo good.
itsmisscs
09:08:12
I sent directions on how to send. You have to set it up in your gmail.
itsmisscs
09:09:12
CS
All email forwards to your personal account. To send mail using the account through gmail, following these directions https://github.com/g0vNYC/hub/blob/3f9822dd64ef94fb745646eb9705875e7faa4b5f/email-setup.md#configure-your-account-to-send-mail-as-your-project-email-account. Use the username and password you received in DM.
- Forwarded from #facilitation-fest-nyc
- 2018-05-10 10:55:08
itsmisscs
09:09:32
That's how to set up your gmail. If you have issues, ping me and we can work on it.
itsmisscs
09:10:28
No one has a personal g0v account. We are using mail forwarding. Everything goes in and out of your email address (gmail accounts for most of you).
itsmisscs
09:11:43
There's no mayfirst webmail for g0v accounts. It's all forwarding to personal accounts.
itsmisscs
09:12:44
If you get it in your personal account, you are set. Follow the directions in github to allow you to send mail as the email addy.
dzn
09:13:19
@itsmisscs the email I received had your email on it not mine
itsmisscs
09:13:41
Which one?
dzn
09:15:03
is this the dm with username and password?
dzn
09:29:04
I just sent the Sloan stuff off. Phew! I hope this amounts to something.
dzn
09:30:28
@itsmisscs getting the nyctraining@ emails so no rush on the rest
dzn
09:34:32
@itsmisscs I added an issue on Fang’s request
dzn
09:35:42
also, sloan will probably look at website tomorrow.
dzn
09:44:58
@lizbarry @itsmisscs if you have time tomorrow, maybe we can all do some website work? I’d like to work on some of the content, @lizbarry will be awesome if we can work together on that part. I am free any time after lunch.
lizbarry
10:03:12
Ok Team Toronto will open a video link!
dzn
10:09:09
excellent!! 🙂
shuyang
15:03:57
Hey! Is there a finished public website we can use to communicate with our Ministries what facilitation workshop is?
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 21:01:43
training.g0v.network
shuyang
2018-05-16 20:17:50
謝謝!
itsmisscs
21:01:43
training.g0v.network
itsmisscs
23:10:38
I’m around. Have a short call from 11:30-12. Otherwise, online. Working on through site stuff
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dzn
23:31:22
@sylin this might be useful for communicating with your Ministers..
2018-05-16
dzn
01:44:51
@lizbarry @itsmisscs if you have time for some website stuff I can get on in 30min or so.
lizbarry
05:26:34
hi! sorry i missed this, i'm here now for an hour
lizbarry
05:26:59
thanks CS!
dzn
06:00:14
oh yay!!
dzn
06:00:41
@lizbarry Let’s get on a quick call and go over the changes I made?
lizbarry
06:01:08
sure!
dzn
06:01:12
🙂
dzn
06:01:15
getting on now
dzn
06:02:02
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dzn
06:05:50
GitHub
training.g0v.network - English language facilitation training site
shuyang
09:49:39
itsmisscs
09:54:05
hi folks, i will be late to the meeting tonight/may miss it. fang and i have ✅ her flight. i left updates in the google doc through comments. this week i will be working on getting 3M sponsorship for materials. I’m happy to prioritize housing next. I was a bit confused where that left off last week.
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dzn
10:14:00
shuyang
11:28:32
chat again soon - for @fang’s part
on Thursday 9pm-10.30pm (TPE) / Thursday 9am-10am (NY)
on Thursday 9pm-10.30pm (TPE) / Thursday 9am-10am (NY)
- 👍1
Fang
2018-05-17 21:01:47
Shall we try this link? https://appear.in/pdis
olivebranch.a
11:35:03
My name is spelled wrong on the webpage "Avorss is a senior legal consultant of PDIS.tw" (http://training.g0v.network/) :joy:
training.g0v.network
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
Pull request sent
Note you can make the edit through pull request too — click “edit” on https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network/blob/master/content/trainers/avross.md will do
olivebranch.a
2018-05-16 13:17:28
Thanks for reminding!
lizbarry
2018-05-16 21:40:17
merged!
au
12:46:35
Note you can make the edit through pull request too — click “edit” on https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network/blob/master/content/trainers/avross.md will do
GitHub
training.g0v.network - English language facilitation training site
olivebranch.a
13:17:28
Thanks for reminding!
shuyang
20:17:50
謝謝!
lizbarry
21:40:17
merged!
itsmisscs
22:22:01
@darshana @lizbarry I merged one of the pull requests with content changes. The next pull request edits the same file. I’m not sure which is the right one. Are there edits on this one https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network/pull/25 that are still valid? Take a look at the site http://training.g0v.network/. It is reflecting content changes
training.g0v.network
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
dzn
22:23:18
I just added a new pull request
itsmisscs
2018-05-16 22:25:19
Looks good. Just merged.
Thanks!!
dzn
22:23:24
for this part
dzn
22:23:31
the others were showing an error
dzn
22:23:36
this one looks ok
dzn
22:23:47
let me know if it works
itsmisscs
22:25:19
Looks good. Just merged.
dzn
22:36:44
Thanks!!
dzn
22:58:24
starting new thread for sloan grant updates
so we heard back from Sloan (look in nyctraining@ email)
Hey, Noel - sounds like a great opportunity, but too far afield from my core focus on data and computational skills for me to be able to sell in the context of our civic program at Sloan (at least as currently constituted). Sorry I can’t be of direct help - are there other funders you’re thinking of?
😞
Let’s send around EVERYWHERE
also, I’ll chat with Noel and see if we can re-work for sloan
we have data and computation!
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @devin @patcon any ideas for more places
Noel also suggested Craigslist Foundation
dzn
22:58:57
so we heard back from Sloan (look in nyctraining@ email)
dzn
22:59:18
Hey, Noel - sounds like a great opportunity, but too far afield from my core focus on data and computational skills for me to be able to sell in the context of our civic program at Sloan (at least as currently constituted). Sorry I can’t be of direct help - are there other funders you’re thinking of?
dzn
22:59:21
😞
dzn
23:00:02
Let’s send around EVERYWHERE
dzn
23:00:03
Knight Foundation
Knight Foundation is a national foundation with strong local roots. We invest in journalism, in the arts, and in the success of cities where brothers John S. and James L. Knight once published newspapers. Our goal is to foster informed and engaged communities, which we believe are essential for a healthy democracy.![]()
dzn
23:00:25
also, I’ll chat with Noel and see if we can re-work for sloan
dzn
23:00:31
we have data and computation!
dzn
23:01:11
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @devin @patcon any ideas for more places
dzn
23:01:23
Noel also suggested Craigslist Foundation
dzn
23:41:27
also, I see that the content changes that I made to the vtaiwan section are quite wordy. will refine that
itsmisscs
2018-05-17 22:53:16
@ mention me in github or paste the link here if you need any review/help
2018-05-17
Fang
21:01:47
Replied to a thread: 2018-05-16 11:28:32
Shall we try this link? https://appear.in/pdis
Video conversations with up to 4 people for free - no login, no downloads. Create a video room. Share the link. Appear together. Try it now at <https://appear.in>![]()
itsmisscs
22:55:10
Are there notes from today’s meeting for those of us at RightsCon?
dzn
23:01:27
weekly meeting notes always in here — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E-wqamROVahCgzbHi4W8NwDEnKiKRkVUoMtK0jawnOc/edit?ts=5afb8e37#. We went over the plan for day 1 and day 2 this week.
itsmisscs
23:08:55
Thanks @dzn!
2018-05-18
shuyang
11:04:31
@itsmisscs could you add the organisers on the website?
shuyang
11:08:37
It looks like PDIS is organising this event 😛
http://training.g0v.network/
It will be a great help if you can clearly write something like “this is event is organised by the New York City node of the global g0v network, BetaNYC and American Assembly” as described in your invitation letter
http://training.g0v.network/
It will be a great help if you can clearly write something like “this is event is organised by the New York City node of the global g0v network, BetaNYC and American Assembly” as described in your invitation letter
training.g0v.network
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
itsmisscs
2018-05-18 23:02:54
Sure! we can more clear about it. Organizers are here http://training.g0v.network/team but there is no lead/intro text.
itsmisscs
2018-05-18 23:03:03
Your suggestion is ++.
shuyang
11:16:05
but this in not in a hurry. anytime you feel comfortable with 🙂
itsmisscs
23:02:54
Sure! we can more clear about it. Organizers are here http://training.g0v.network/team but there is no lead/intro text.
training.g0v.network
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
itsmisscs
23:03:03
Your suggestion is ++.
2018-05-19
dzn
08:36:59
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @patcon @devin starting a new thread for the ticketing stuff
@devin and I put together an eventbrite page today. Feedback please — https://www.eventbrite.com/e/vtaiwan-open-consultation-participation-officers-training-tickets-46243627936. It’s published so you can view it but can be edited.
one thought — shall we just send everyone in tier 1 the invite and not do the application?
that’s 54 people
we selected these people pretty carefully and many have expressed interest in coming already, what if we just see who buys tickets? We are running up against the dates pretty close, will be good to get this sealed.
devin
2018-05-19 09:28:25
I saw a tiny letter registration a few days ago in the shared email. Are folks using that for the initial invite? We have a mailchimp from a while ago too we can use.
devin
2018-05-19 09:29:32
Just to keep things moving I added our attendees to the g0v.network mailchimp. There are 40 people with rank 1 and email addresses.
lizbarry
2018-05-20 03:28:54
i would think so, yes. ping @itsmisscs ?
itsmisscs
2018-05-20 03:29:32
Yes
lizbarry
2018-05-20 03:29:34
is the $200 ticket price enough to cover minimum costs ?
itsmisscs
2018-05-20 03:30:08
@devin I had setup a tiny letter since it’s simpler but if we have mail chimp already, go for it. Didn’t know we had an account
$250 would be more comfortable but worried that might turn away people
itsmisscs
2018-05-20 03:30:22
Sliding scale?
itsmisscs
2018-05-20 03:30:30
200-250?
lizbarry
2018-05-20 03:31:08
i mean, $200 is already high...
lizbarry
2018-05-20 03:31:18
i think we should just ask for what we need
lizbarry
2018-05-20 03:31:29
if it's $250 that's not a lot different.
lizbarry
2018-05-20 03:32:29
we're only going to be able to sell like 22 or 24 tickets total after all organizers are in
itsmisscs
2018-05-20 03:33:10
I’m up for giving up my seat. I don’t need to be in the activities. Listening will be good
lizbarry
2018-05-20 03:33:33
6K is our minimum, that's $250*24 seats
250 would definitely be safer
we can do that and see what happens
sell 25 instead of 30?
also, after going over the PO stuff with Fang I think the training will be most useful to govt and people who work with govt
we can push through those channels a bit more heavily as a professional development thing
dzn
08:37:23
@devin and I put together an eventbrite page today. Feedback please — https://www.eventbrite.com/e/vtaiwan-open-consultation-participation-officers-training-tickets-46243627936. It’s published so you can view it but can be edited.
dzn
08:38:27
one thought — shall we just send everyone in tier 1 the invite and not do the application?
dzn
08:38:50
that’s 54 people
dzn
08:40:22
we selected these people pretty carefully and many have expressed interest in coming already, what if we just see who buys tickets? We are running up against the dates pretty close, will be good to get this sealed.
devin
09:28:25
I saw a tiny letter registration a few days ago in the shared email. Are folks using that for the initial invite? We have a mailchimp from a while ago too we can use.
devin
09:29:32
Just to keep things moving I added our attendees to the g0v.network mailchimp. There are 40 people with rank 1 and email addresses.
2018-05-20
lizbarry
03:28:54
i would think so, yes. ping @itsmisscs ?
dzn
03:29:18
Hey NYC crew. We missed our usual friday. Have some time to chat today?
itsmisscs
03:29:32
Yes
lizbarry
03:29:34
is the $200 ticket price enough to cover minimum costs ?
itsmisscs
03:30:08
@devin I had setup a tiny letter since it’s simpler but if we have mail chimp already, go for it. Didn’t know we had an account
dzn
03:30:09
$250 would be more comfortable but worried that might turn away people
itsmisscs
03:30:22
Sliding scale?
itsmisscs
03:30:30
200-250?
lizbarry
03:31:08
i mean, $200 is already high...
lizbarry
03:31:18
i think we should just ask for what we need
lizbarry
03:31:29
if it's $250 that's not a lot different.
lizbarry
03:32:29
we're only going to be able to sell like 22 or 24 tickets total after all organizers are in
itsmisscs
03:33:10
I’m up for giving up my seat. I don’t need to be in the activities. Listening will be good
lizbarry
03:33:33
6K is our minimum, that's $250*24 seats
lizbarry
03:34:58
sure i can do a quickie
dzn
03:35:26
250 would definitely be safer
dzn
03:35:35
we can do that and see what happens
dzn
03:35:51
sell 25 instead of 30?
dzn
03:36:37
also, after going over the PO stuff with Fang I think the training will be most useful to govt and people who work with govt
dzn
03:37:11
we can push through those channels a bit more heavily as a professional development thing
dzn
03:37:31
🙂 cool
dzn
03:37:41
dzn
08:35:48
@lizbarry ready for you — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTAcSg2mzyC6uvuvIl9Hq7e4d1J9kJJuEn8tRumKXcE/edit
2018-05-21
lizbarry
09:05:49
alright -- reading now, thanks
One thing I forgot to comment on, I didn't know how to add the receipt thing based on workshop structure. See if you can do better?
Also, some of those tools will only mentioned, others covered in detail. I just wrote the whole lot in there
Thanks @lizbarry
lizbarry
2018-05-21 09:28:17
alright, i mucked around quite a bit in the first paragraph, check it out
lizbarry
2018-05-21 09:28:34
be back in half an hour or so
hi hi. Cleaned it up so we can fit everything on one page and got the budget stuff ready
looking good I think, Check if you can. Not a biggie otherwise. Thanks for your writing! Blended that into condensed first paragraph.
Will send it out tomorrow morning
dzn
09:14:54
One thing I forgot to comment on, I didn't know how to add the receipt thing based on workshop structure. See if you can do better?
dzn
09:15:30
Also, some of those tools will only mentioned, others covered in detail. I just wrote the whole lot in there
dzn
09:15:42
Thanks @lizbarry
lizbarry
09:28:17
alright, i mucked around quite a bit in the first paragraph, check it out
lizbarry
09:28:34
be back in half an hour or so
dzn
12:47:22
hi hi. Cleaned it up so we can fit everything on one page and got the budget stuff ready
dzn
12:47:30
looking good I think, Check if you can. Not a biggie otherwise. Thanks for your writing! Blended that into condensed first paragraph.
dzn
12:47:44
Will send it out tomorrow morning
2018-05-22
itsmisscs
00:26:16
@darshana @lizbarry @devin @patcon Great news from the Awesome foundation! Our submission is in the final rounds. They would like to set up a call
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 00:26:28
```The trustees of the Awesome Foundation - NYC chapter met last week to review applications for the June grant, and your application was among a handful that stood out.
We have a couple of follow-up questions about your project. I would love to set up a quick Skype call of about 15 - 20 minutes.
Are there any times this afternoon, tomorrow, or at the latest Wednesday that would work for you?
```
We have a couple of follow-up questions about your project. I would love to set up a quick Skype call of about 15 - 20 minutes.
Are there any times this afternoon, tomorrow, or at the latest Wednesday that would work for you?
```
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 00:26:42
The email went to `hi@talktonyc`
devin
2018-05-22 00:45:59
nice
lizbarry
2018-05-22 01:15:09
Awesome!! Literally!!
oh wow. Excellent!!
Those pictures did the trick. Seriously! Was then only thing I changed from round 1.
I can hop on call at any time
🙂
@itsmisscs the application went out in our names let’s coordinate, get on this call and get that $$!
Also, I can’t seem to sign into the hi@ account. Help @itsmisscs. tx!
Actually, I just looked… it went out as CC but @lizbarry @patcon your names in there too.
lizbarry
2018-05-22 03:01:12
ok i'm in Houston through wednesday night. feel free to have without me or to schedule thurs/fri
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 03:02:37
Will be back at computer in 20-30 min. Then will look @darshana
They say latest Wed, so let’s try for before that? We’ll wax eloquent about you on call @lizbarry 🙂
The application content is here — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NGLamy4arKORjYTyx-CvuMQJhnWOUYd08njdoS1gIlw/edit#
@itsmisscs No luck accessing the hi@ email so you will have to coordinate. I can do before 12:30PM and after 3PM tomorrow. Wednesday any time before 5PM is fine. Thanks!
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 07:25:15
sent off email
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 07:25:48
@darshana can you get to https://roundcube.mayfirst.org/? once you are there, does the lastpass info show?
The info shows but can't login.
What time did you suggest for awesome? I need to fit in a meeting. Will work around the times you gave them. Thanks sending email.
devin
2018-05-22 08:49:16
If you all want me to attend I'm happy to do it Tuesday - pretty busy Wednesday. Also happy to let you all take it. 🙂
@devin maybe we just take this one? Will be easier I think since they have our names and pictures from the Taiwan trip. That ok?
@itsmisscs Don’t worry about troubleshooting email. It’s something on my end. I can see the email you sent on my phone now so password is not the issue. I’ll take care of it.
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 22:11:54
@darshana added to shared cal. Call is tomorrow at 10am. Please add Kat on Skype. Her username is also in the event details.
@itsmisscs I saw the email. Added info. Tx!
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 00:31:45
See you on the call tomorrow @darshana. I re-read the application content.
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 00:32:21
Thanks for re-submitting for us. Ex-ci-ting to get to this stage. Perhaps this is a sign of what’s to come with Sloan 🤞🏾
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 22:23:05
Super positive call
yep 🙂 Should have told her about Tina!!
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 22:25:22
oh! damn. i think it went well
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 22:25:33
also they will be such amplifiers for the projects
we have to send her the materials anyway (for the reception etc.)
yes!!!
will be great
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 22:26:10
what is the plan for that? are we putting together a paperless post or eventbrighte or mailchimp?
we can just do the same thing we do for tickets with reception
mailchimp+eventbrite?
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 22:28:22
yeah. the eventbrite is free
devin
2018-05-24 01:45:06
When are we planning to send out the first round of invites?
yesterday
jokes aside. Thanks for reminder @devin. How about we email the people have on our individual lists the eventbrite?
For me that would be Micah, BetaNYC, American Assembly
I can do Christina Xu as well
devin
2018-05-24 01:56:42
Why not send it out to all the rank=1
devin
2018-05-24 01:56:42
?
That would be ideal, I thought we were slow on that cause of coordination hitches
devin
2018-05-24 02:00:48
I can send out an email with a link to the eventbrite via mailchimp. I just need the content for the email.
I can send you something today
devin
2018-05-24 02:02:01
Great - and are we linking to the eventbrite or the expression of interest? Do we need to discuss that part further?
that is the part we hadn’t decided on
I’m happy to just send out to group 1 without needing them to fill out anything. Maybe we can do the expression of interest for 2 and 3.
Thoughts on adding https://www.navapbc.com/ to group 1?
after getting to know the PO part better, I think they will really benefit from it
itsmisscs
2018-05-24 08:39:55
def expression of interest for 2 and 3. send group 1 the link to register. ++
@devin @itsmisscs Draft for invitation email — https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Oc8fbueMW5LkK5J2-bJ_CxIMZZVpXFexavpusYdyYE/edit
can we also have the person who put down the contact name, email separately?
devin
2018-05-24 10:27:32
Yes Nathan has offered to do thst for his names and I'll do it for mine.
excellent. Then we are mostly set.
Let’s coordinate tomorrow and get this out the door?
We have to add a line about the video bit either in eventbrite or email
also, price is $250
and number of tickets 25
@devin I don’t remember if the eventbrite account is a common one or your personal one
itsmisscs
2018-05-24 13:19:43
It's common
itsmisscs
2018-05-24 13:20:06
The information is in super secret google doc.
itsmisscs
00:26:28
```The trustees of the Awesome Foundation - NYC chapter met last week to review applications for the June grant, and your application was among a handful that stood out.
We have a couple of follow-up questions about your project. I would love to set up a quick Skype call of about 15 - 20 minutes.
Are there any times this afternoon, tomorrow, or at the latest Wednesday that would work for you?
```
We have a couple of follow-up questions about your project. I would love to set up a quick Skype call of about 15 - 20 minutes.
Are there any times this afternoon, tomorrow, or at the latest Wednesday that would work for you?
```
itsmisscs
00:26:42
The email went to `hi@talktonyc`
devin
00:45:59
nice
itsmisscs
00:47:09
before replying I wanted to check-in to see if we’d gotta back to Haowei Wei’s email. If not, I’ll reply back.
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 00:47:50
@devin any plans on the media front for the 13th?
devin
2018-05-22 00:53:12
I've spoken with people at NPR and Gotham Gazette about doing something.
devin
2018-05-22 00:53:55
For Gotham Gazette, they'll publish an event preview piece if we write it.
devin
2018-05-22 00:54:23
for NPR they're interested in interviewing Audrey.
devin
2018-05-22 00:55:26
I'd like to do a broader media event but still lack clarity on who would participate. Seems like Audrey is available the 12th for interviews while the workshop is going on and Avross is around til the 18th?
devin
2018-05-22 00:55:59
Is there a point person I should coordinate with on the Taiwan team? That's probably the best way forward at this point.
@sylin is the point person on schedules
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 01:28:55
Okay. Will wait to hear confirmation from @sylin about schedules to reply back. Email can go out tonight.
shuyang
2018-05-22 01:47:37
Yes
shuyang
2018-05-22 01:48:05
Audrey will be available on the 12th, and Avross will be around til 18th
devin
2018-05-22 01:48:36
Is there anyone else in your party that should be speaking to the press or just them?
shuyang
2018-05-22 01:49:45
Who are you looking for?
devin
2018-05-22 01:50:28
I'm trying to figure out which types of journalists to reach out to for the visit.
devin
2018-05-22 01:51:34
Considering that schedules are tight and journalists aren't always flexible with time, the more people who make themselves available for interviews the better.
shuyang
2018-05-22 01:52:03
Note that we don’t need to be arranged with press. We will be happy to have a quiet visit, especially Audrey.
devin
2018-05-22 01:52:07
And if certainly people are particularly concenred with certain topics - then we can try to place them with journalists that are also interested in those topics.
shuyang
2018-05-22 01:52:48
Other people, on the other hand, like Avross, Fang-jui can be front facing
shuyang
2018-05-22 01:56:12
(Will come back to you in few hours)
devin
2018-05-22 02:17:04
ok thx
itsmisscs
00:47:50
@devin any plans on the media front for the 13th?
devin
00:53:12
I've spoken with people at NPR and Gotham Gazette about doing something.
devin
00:53:55
For Gotham Gazette, they'll publish an event preview piece if we write it.
devin
00:54:23
for NPR they're interested in interviewing Audrey.
devin
00:55:26
I'd like to do a broader media event but still lack clarity on who would participate. Seems like Audrey is available the 12th for interviews while the workshop is going on and Avross is around til the 18th?
devin
00:55:59
Is there a point person I should coordinate with on the Taiwan team? That's probably the best way forward at this point.
dzn
01:09:29
@sylin is the point person on schedules
lizbarry
01:15:09
Awesome!! Literally!!
devin
01:20:00
hi @sylin let's work together to arrange for some media interviews/events while your team is in NYC.
devin
2018-05-22 01:20:12
please join me in this thread. 🙂
itsmisscs
01:28:55
Okay. Will wait to hear confirmation from @sylin about schedules to reply back. Email can go out tonight.
shuyang
01:47:37
Yes
shuyang
01:48:05
Audrey will be available on the 12th, and Avross will be around til 18th
devin
01:48:36
Is there anyone else in your party that should be speaking to the press or just them?
shuyang
01:49:45
Who are you looking for?
devin
01:50:28
I'm trying to figure out which types of journalists to reach out to for the visit.
devin
01:51:34
Considering that schedules are tight and journalists aren't always flexible with time, the more people who make themselves available for interviews the better.
shuyang
01:52:03
Note that we don’t need to be arranged with press. We will be happy to have a quiet visit, especially Audrey.
devin
01:52:07
And if certainly people are particularly concenred with certain topics - then we can try to place them with journalists that are also interested in those topics.
shuyang
01:52:48
Other people, on the other hand, like Avross, Fang-jui can be front facing
shuyang
01:56:12
(Will come back to you in few hours)
devin
02:17:04
ok thx
dzn
02:38:17
oh wow. Excellent!!
dzn
02:38:53
Those pictures did the trick. Seriously! Was then only thing I changed from round 1.
dzn
02:39:11
I can hop on call at any time
dzn
02:49:54
🙂
dzn
02:53:21
@itsmisscs the application went out in our names let’s coordinate, get on this call and get that $$!
dzn
02:57:32
Also, I can’t seem to sign into the hi@ account. Help @itsmisscs. tx!
dzn
03:00:15
Actually, I just looked… it went out as CC but @lizbarry @patcon your names in there too.
lizbarry
03:01:12
ok i'm in Houston through wednesday night. feel free to have without me or to schedule thurs/fri
- 1
dzn
03:03:14
They say latest Wed, so let’s try for before that? We’ll wax eloquent about you on call @lizbarry 🙂
- 😍1
- 😜1
dzn
03:03:22
The application content is here — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NGLamy4arKORjYTyx-CvuMQJhnWOUYd08njdoS1gIlw/edit#
dzn
05:13:53
@itsmisscs No luck accessing the hi@ email so you will have to coordinate. I can do before 12:30PM and after 3PM tomorrow. Wednesday any time before 5PM is fine. Thanks!
itsmisscs
06:27:56
@darshana can you login from https://roundcube.mayfirst.org/? the info is what’s in the shared folder
no luck. that’s the info I’ve been using.
don’t know what happened
reset password?
itsmisscs
2018-05-22 08:59:12
Nope. That's how I get in too. Tried it on various computers.
dzn
06:30:28
no luck. that’s the info I’ve been using.
dzn
06:30:49
don’t know what happened
dzn
06:30:56
reset password?
itsmisscs
07:25:15
sent off email
itsmisscs
07:25:48
@darshana can you get to https://roundcube.mayfirst.org/? once you are there, does the lastpass info show?
dzn
08:47:06
The info shows but can't login.
dzn
08:48:43
What time did you suggest for awesome? I need to fit in a meeting. Will work around the times you gave them. Thanks sending email.
devin
08:49:16
If you all want me to attend I'm happy to do it Tuesday - pretty busy Wednesday. Also happy to let you all take it. 🙂
itsmisscs
08:59:12
Nope. That's how I get in too. Tried it on various computers.
dzn
10:14:29
@devin maybe we just take this one? Will be easier I think since they have our names and pictures from the Taiwan trip. That ok?
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dzn
10:16:18
@itsmisscs Don’t worry about troubleshooting email. It’s something on my end. I can see the email you sent on my phone now so password is not the issue. I’ll take care of it.
itsmisscs
22:11:54
@darshana added to shared cal. Call is tomorrow at 10am. Please add Kat on Skype. Her username is also in the event details.
2018-05-23
itsmisscs
00:31:45
See you on the call tomorrow @darshana. I re-read the application content.
dzn
00:32:18
Isn’t it cool! 🙂 This reminds me, I told Tina I would invite her here so she can show us all the amazing things she has been putting together. There’s a whole other board she has going!!
itsmisscs
00:32:21
Thanks for re-submitting for us. Ex-ci-ting to get to this stage. Perhaps this is a sign of what’s to come with Sloan 🤞🏾
itsmisscs
00:32:42
YESSSSS very much so
tinabeans
03:07:39
@t has joined the channel
dzn
03:13:19
Hi everyone. Please meet @t. Incredibly talented chef and designer. She is crafting a vTaiwan/PO Training inspired food experience for June11&12 and will be feeding us with many yummies! 🍲🍙🍘🌯 🍧 🍣 🥪
- ❤️2
katenicholson
2018-05-23 03:58:02
ALSO, fun fact. @t was my first college roommate!
tinabeans
2018-05-23 05:07:09
haha hi kate! omg yay you’re here too!
wow. small world 🙂
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 18:24:31
WOW!
tinabeans
03:14:13
helloooo
- 🎊6
- 🍭1
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 18:25:38
Hi Tina, do you have a short bio I can put up on site? And any social media accounts you’d like to link.
tinabeans
03:14:35
nice to meet y’all!
tinabeans
03:14:57
im going to be doing some recipe prototypes this week! but it looks like i’m converging on 2 ideas for the 2 days. can’t wait to share with y’all
tinabeans
03:15:19
lots of opportunities for feedback once we are at a higher level of detail so i’d love to hear from all of you
katenicholson
03:58:02
ALSO, fun fact. @t was my first college roommate!
tinabeans
05:07:09
haha hi kate! omg yay you’re here too!
dzn
06:09:13
wow. small world 🙂
dzn
09:21:50
@sylin @fang @anyone else joining meeting, would it be ok if we started at 10:30PM today?
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 09:34:08
10:30 is fine for me. Tomorrow I can't do evening but could do something in the morning.
Fang
2018-05-23 10:04:50
10:30AM taiwan time today is fine for me. I'm also fine to chat tomorrow, but I'll be free from 10:50AM taiwan time onwards.
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 10:30:09
I have a call from 11-11:30 tomorrow. Is that too late?
dzn
09:22:01
10:30AM taiwan time.
dzn
09:24:53
Also, since Avross is a bit ill today, if postponing is better, I can do tomorrow 10:30PM onwards also.
itsmisscs
09:34:08
10:30 is fine for me. Tomorrow I can't do evening but could do something in the morning.
Fang
10:04:50
Replied to a thread: 2018-05-23 09:21:50
10:30AM taiwan time today is fine for me. I'm also fine to chat tomorrow, but I'll be free from 10:50AM taiwan time onwards.
itsmisscs
10:30:09
I have a call from 11-11:30 tomorrow. Is that too late?
itsmisscs
10:31:32
We doing this or postpone? I can rearrange my evening tomorrow too
shuyang
10:32:47
ok, postpone to tmr 11am - 12am
shuyang
10:33:06
ny 11pm-mid night (thanks for staying up late with us)
shuyang
10:34:08
@itsmisscs if you want to catch up now, I am up for it. let me know
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 10:36:32
Chilling in jitsi but sounds like tomorrow?
itsmisscs
10:35:17
K. Will move my call. 👌🏾
itsmisscs
10:36:32
Chilling in jitsi but sounds like tomorrow?
dzn
10:53:04
hi. So sorry!! I got totally bamboozled. Yun Chen Chien came to NYC today and is staying with me. Her bus delayed, then hackathon, then train delay. Phew!
dzn
10:53:09
What’s the plan?
dzn
10:53:21
I can talk now or tomorrow
dzn
10:54:40
I see plan now. 11AM/PM tomorrow. Cool!
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olivebranch.a
2018-05-23 15:07:49
hey guys, sorry that i'll have a meeting with MOEA tmr morning (Taipei Time), so I can't make it at 11AM/PM
olivebranch.a
2018-05-23 15:09:57
I can do at THU. night (THU. morning in NYC). Friday is also flexible for me. 🙏
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 21:36:12
What's the plan? Are we meeting?
olivebranch.a
2018-05-23 22:02:07
@darshana @sylin @fang re-reschedule? I can do at Thu. night and Friday morning or night, but if the original plan (Thu. 11am/pm) is the best for everyone, I can just sync with fang and shu 😎 sorry about causing the inconvenience again 😣
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 22:27:33
no worries avross. is there anything that’s pressing for the group? Sounds like @sylin needs to connect with @devin.
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 22:27:59
not sure if you were referencing taiwan times.thursday eve i’m busy, i can do morning tomorrow or friday morning (but that’s your saturday)
olivebranch.a
2018-05-23 23:05:39
Yes I was using Taiwan time. Seems like Thursday night (Thursday morning in NYC) works for fang, cs and me! How about @darshana and @sylin ? Let’s say 8 AM(NYC)/PM(TW) on Thursday?
itsmisscs
2018-05-23 23:08:06
+1 here for 8am/pm.
I can do Thursday morning
shuyang
2018-05-23 23:55:05
I will be on the move but I can quickly give you some updates on logistics
itsmisscs
2018-05-24 01:03:26
Okay! If we should have those sooner, @sylin, we can jump on a call before
olivebranch.a
2018-05-24 08:38:27
👍 see you on Thursday at 8AM/PM 🤓
itsmisscs
2018-05-24 19:23:43
Jitsi vnetwork room work for everyone?
olivebranch.a
2018-05-24 19:57:09
Works for me! Url, please, thanks!
shuyang
12:25:20
Will @devin be there tmr? I have some updates for audrey’s schedule (need to explore digital doubles options)
devin
2018-05-24 01:44:16
Hi. Lets chat here.
olivebranch.a
15:07:49
hey guys, sorry that i'll have a meeting with MOEA tmr morning (Taipei Time), so I can't make it at 11AM/PM
olivebranch.a
15:09:57
I can do at THU. night (THU. morning in NYC). Friday is also flexible for me. 🙏
olivebranch.a
15:45:53
Slido has a great theme of nyc as background, yay. this is how the welcome page and poll page look. please help check the wording of the poll question and options, thanks!
itsmisscs
18:24:31
WOW!
itsmisscs
18:25:38
Hi Tina, do you have a short bio I can put up on site? And any social media accounts you’d like to link.
itsmisscs
21:36:12
What's the plan? Are we meeting?
olivebranch.a
22:02:07
@darshana @sylin @fang re-reschedule? I can do at Thu. night and Friday morning or night, but if the original plan (Thu. 11am/pm) is the best for everyone, I can just sync with fang and shu 😎 sorry about causing the inconvenience again 😣
itsmisscs
22:23:05
Super positive call
dzn
22:24:59
yep 🙂 Should have told her about Tina!!
itsmisscs
22:25:22
oh! damn. i think it went well
itsmisscs
22:25:33
also they will be such amplifiers for the projects
dzn
22:25:45
we have to send her the materials anyway (for the reception etc.)
dzn
22:25:49
yes!!!
dzn
22:25:52
will be great
itsmisscs
22:26:10
what is the plan for that? are we putting together a paperless post or eventbrighte or mailchimp?
dzn
22:27:17
we can just do the same thing we do for tickets with reception
dzn
22:27:28
mailchimp+eventbrite?
itsmisscs
22:27:33
no worries avross. is there anything that’s pressing for the group? Sounds like @sylin needs to connect with @devin.
itsmisscs
22:27:59
not sure if you were referencing taiwan times.thursday eve i’m busy, i can do morning tomorrow or friday morning (but that’s your saturday)
itsmisscs
22:28:22
yeah. the eventbrite is free
olivebranch.a
23:05:39
Yes I was using Taiwan time. Seems like Thursday night (Thursday morning in NYC) works for fang, cs and me! How about @darshana and @sylin ? Let’s say 8 AM(NYC)/PM(TW) on Thursday?
itsmisscs
23:08:06
+1 here for 8am/pm.
dzn
23:10:46
I can do Thursday morning
shuyang
23:55:05
I will be on the move but I can quickly give you some updates on logistics
2018-05-24
devin
01:44:16
Hi. Lets chat here.
devin
01:45:06
When are we planning to send out the first round of invites?
dzn
01:54:10
yesterday
dzn
01:55:02
jokes aside. Thanks for reminder @devin. How about we email the people have on our individual lists the eventbrite?
dzn
01:55:15
For me that would be Micah, BetaNYC, American Assembly
dzn
01:56:15
I can do Christina Xu as well
devin
01:56:42
Why not send it out to all the rank=1
devin
01:56:42
?
dzn
01:58:01
That would be ideal, I thought we were slow on that cause of coordination hitches
devin
02:00:48
I can send out an email with a link to the eventbrite via mailchimp. I just need the content for the email.
dzn
02:01:15
I can send you something today
devin
02:02:01
Great - and are we linking to the eventbrite or the expression of interest? Do we need to discuss that part further?
dzn
02:04:00
that is the part we hadn’t decided on
dzn
02:04:11
I’m happy to just send out to group 1 without needing them to fill out anything. Maybe we can do the expression of interest for 2 and 3.
dzn
02:08:06
Thoughts on adding https://www.navapbc.com/ to group 1?
navapbc.com
Nava is a public benefit corporation creating software to improve how our government serves people.![]()
dzn
02:08:36
after getting to know the PO part better, I think they will really benefit from it
dzn
06:30:34
Update on sponsorship — Elaine Chung chief of staff of City Council member Peter Koo (Noel’s contact) just emailed and is willing to chat and see how she can help us. @itsmisscs can we make the last fixes to website please. Buttons, scaling pictures more, adding PO training image and making the organizer part more prominent (I’ve left issues on github). Let me know when fixes are done and I will share website with her. Thanks!
More on this topic. I added group email to correspondence with Elaine. There is an event on Tuesday evening if anyone wants to join me. Mind if I handle the email replies though. Noel's request that all correspondence with her goes through one channel.
dzn
08:23:21
More on this topic. I added group email to correspondence with Elaine. There is an event on Tuesday evening if anyone wants to join me. Mind if I handle the email replies though. Noel's request that all correspondence with her goes through one channel.
olivebranch.a
08:38:27
👍 see you on Thursday at 8AM/PM 🤓
itsmisscs
08:39:55
def expression of interest for 2 and 3. send group 1 the link to register. ++
dzn
09:54:49
@devin @itsmisscs Draft for invitation email — https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Oc8fbueMW5LkK5J2-bJ_CxIMZZVpXFexavpusYdyYE/edit
dzn
09:55:20
can we also have the person who put down the contact name, email separately?
@null
09:57:09
@darshana commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: @olivebranch.a Nice background 🙂
@null
09:57:40
@darshana commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: Can we have full sentence prompts or a 1 line explanation along with the title so people have some context?
@null
09:57:48
@darshana commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: Let’s discuss this on call tomorrow
devin
10:27:32
Yes Nathan has offered to do thst for his names and I'll do it for mine.
@null
10:41:20
@olivebranch.a commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: Absolutely!
dzn
11:50:04
excellent. Then we are mostly set.
dzn
11:50:15
Let’s coordinate tomorrow and get this out the door?
dzn
11:51:00
We have to add a line about the video bit either in eventbrite or email
dzn
11:51:05
also, price is $250
dzn
11:51:15
and number of tickets 25
dzn
11:52:01
@devin I don’t remember if the eventbrite account is a common one or your personal one
itsmisscs
13:19:43
It's common
itsmisscs
13:20:06
The information is in super secret google doc.
itsmisscs
19:23:43
Jitsi vnetwork room work for everyone?
olivebranch.a
19:57:09
Works for me! Url, please, thanks!
dzn
19:59:10
shuyang
20:51:19
Are we chatting somewhere?
shuyang
20:52:41
Errrr need to go
shuyang
20:52:51
Will sync with the others later.
olivebranch.a
20:53:00
we are done, sync with me then 🙂
dzn
23:01:44
@itsmisscs @devin let’s plan for tomorrow in this thread.
@devin can you start earlier than usual? 2:30PM? @itsmisscs and I can get on call or be there at that time.
itsmisscs
2018-05-24 23:03:46
Earlier would be great.
I can’t start before 2:30 but if we can decide on plan ahead of time, I will make sure I have everything ready ahead of time
What do you both think of sitting together and getting all the invites out. If we have website ready and personal emails to the people we know all lined up then we can get everything out the door.
devin
2018-05-24 23:37:01
yeah that's exactly what we should do
devin
2018-05-24 23:53:47
230 is fine with me
we should see if nathan can join
a lot of those names are his recomendations
devin
2018-05-25 00:17:46
I spoke to him yesterday. He'll followup with all the people he added once the invites are sent out.
devin
2018-05-25 00:18:05
I'll invite him to the meeting tomorrow anyway tho
devin
2018-05-25 00:18:43
did we find out if the baby is allowed?
ah. I forgot about baby. @itsmisscs what do you think? should we ask orbital or not?
itsmisscs
2018-05-25 00:48:44
Aren't we sending a general email then following up individually?
itsmisscs
2018-05-25 00:49:00
I will ask Gary. Can you confirm his availability?
itsmisscs
2018-05-25 00:54:42
@devin can you confirm that nathan is coming?
devin
2018-05-25 00:55:55
@nathan.p.storey you interested in working with us at orbital tomorrow - starting at 230?
devin
2018-05-25 00:57:36
Yes - email then individual followup is my and Nathan's plan.
npstorey
2018-05-25 02:13:23
Hi - I think I’ll have to check in tomorrow over there phone/slack. Baby Mira woke up with a cold this morning, so will probably not be up traveling tomorrow. I can follow up individually with anybody I know after the invites go out.
devin
2018-05-25 02:23:17
thx nathan!
itsmisscs
2018-05-26 01:54:36
I’m on the way over. I will be there a just past 2
devin
2018-05-26 01:55:58
3pm for me
I’m here but have a call. Can start at 2:30PM.
itsmisscs
2018-05-26 01:57:24
cool. i will meet with nikki about the logo then. will get continue with what i’m working on for the site.
itsmisscs
2018-05-26 01:57:54
i have to leave by 530/6.
npstorey
2018-05-26 02:36:07
I'm available for a quick check-in over phone. Is there a number I can call in to at ~3pm?
devin
2018-05-26 03:11:13
ETA 330
devin
2018-05-26 03:11:20
Do what you gotta do without me
itsmisscs
2018-05-26 03:34:04
@nathan.p.storey @devin Darshana went to get food….not sure when we’re starting here.
devin
2018-05-26 03:34:52
cool ya ran into her outside so will come up with her
itsmisscs
2018-05-26 03:35:03
@nathan.p.storey we will notify you once we send out a general email to everyone we’d like to attend. would you be okay reaching out to your contracts to give them an extra nudge?
npstorey
2018-05-26 03:36:39
Yes, can do. I’m around today until about 4:30
npstorey
2018-05-29 22:54:39
Just sent nudges to all my contacts. Hope it helps!
yay! Thanks!!
dzn
23:02:11
@devin can you start earlier than usual? 2:30PM? @itsmisscs and I can get on call or be there at that time.
itsmisscs
23:03:46
Earlier would be great.
dzn
23:15:50
I can’t start before 2:30 but if we can decide on plan ahead of time, I will make sure I have everything ready ahead of time
dzn
23:18:16
What do you both think of sitting together and getting all the invites out. If we have website ready and personal emails to the people we know all lined up then we can get everything out the door.
devin
23:37:01
yeah that's exactly what we should do
devin
23:53:47
230 is fine with me
2018-05-25
dzn
00:16:38
we should see if nathan can join
dzn
00:16:55
a lot of those names are his recomendations
devin
00:17:46
I spoke to him yesterday. He'll followup with all the people he added once the invites are sent out.
devin
00:18:05
I'll invite him to the meeting tomorrow anyway tho
devin
00:18:43
did we find out if the baby is allowed?
dzn
00:48:00
ah. I forgot about baby. @itsmisscs what do you think? should we ask orbital or not?
itsmisscs
00:48:44
Aren't we sending a general email then following up individually?
itsmisscs
00:49:00
I will ask Gary. Can you confirm his availability?
itsmisscs
00:54:42
@devin can you confirm that nathan is coming?
devin
00:55:55
@nathan.p.storey you interested in working with us at orbital tomorrow - starting at 230?
devin
00:57:36
Yes - email then individual followup is my and Nathan's plan.
npstorey
02:13:23
Hi - I think I’ll have to check in tomorrow over there phone/slack. Baby Mira woke up with a cold this morning, so will probably not be up traveling tomorrow. I can follow up individually with anybody I know after the invites go out.
devin
02:23:17
thx nathan!
2018-05-26
itsmisscs
01:54:36
I’m on the way over. I will be there a just past 2
devin
01:55:58
3pm for me
dzn
01:56:36
I’m here but have a call. Can start at 2:30PM.
itsmisscs
01:57:24
cool. i will meet with nikki about the logo then. will get continue with what i’m working on for the site.
itsmisscs
01:57:54
i have to leave by 530/6.
npstorey
02:36:07
I'm available for a quick check-in over phone. Is there a number I can call in to at ~3pm?
devin
03:11:13
ETA 330
devin
03:11:20
Do what you gotta do without me
itsmisscs
03:34:04
@nathan.p.storey @devin Darshana went to get food….not sure when we’re starting here.
devin
03:34:52
cool ya ran into her outside so will come up with her
itsmisscs
03:35:03
@nathan.p.storey we will notify you once we send out a general email to everyone we’d like to attend. would you be okay reaching out to your contracts to give them an extra nudge?
npstorey
03:36:39
Yes, can do. I’m around today until about 4:30
itsmisscs
09:37:53
Wooot Micah gets the first order
npstorey
21:45:11
Did all the emails go out? Should I start follow up emails over the weekend or wait until Tuesday?
2018-05-27
dzn
00:38:35
yes please!!
dzn
00:38:49
we sent all the ranked 1 people.
dzn
00:38:57
Thanks @nathan.p.storey!!
dzn
00:39:36
we are going to resend the invite to everyone on Tuesday
dzn
00:39:43
and then do follow-ups
itsmisscs
05:22:01
We got the grant from Awesome Foundation!
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itsmisscs
2018-05-27 05:44:44
I replied back. What do folks think about starting to sign nobodies?
itsmisscs
2018-05-27 05:45:34
I think the funds should go to Sarapis. Any objections from folks? Is that okay, @devin?
devin
2018-05-27 05:56:42
Yaaas amazing congrats
many yays, specially to @lizbarry’s excellent writing
devin
2018-05-31 08:03:04
Let me know if there is anything I need to do to process the contribution.
itsmisscs
05:44:44
I replied back. What do folks think about starting to sign nobodies?
itsmisscs
05:45:34
I think the funds should go to Sarapis. Any objections from folks? Is that okay, @devin?
devin
05:56:42
Yaaas amazing congrats
2018-05-29
olivebranch.a
11:00:47
@darshana @itsmisscs could you do a 15 mins presentation on pol.is? (for the session from 13:30-14:30)
olivebranch.a
2018-05-29 12:02:06
Will do!
au
12:10:12
Just confirmed that I’ll be at NYC the entire week (June 11 to 16)
dzn
12:12:57
How excellent! Very glad you will be around.
dzn
12:13:40
If you need to have anything arranged, let us know.
au
12:15:43
Ditto. My trip and schedule is now being managed by TECO New York; if you need any support / arrangements please feel free to contact TECO directly.
dzn
12:19:10
Serendipitous. A contact from city council is introducing us to TECO tomorrow. We will keep you posted!
- 💯1
dzn
12:19:24
Thanks!
dzn
12:21:02
many yays, specially to @lizbarry’s excellent writing
olivebranch.a
17:49:37
I uploaded all of my slides for vTaiwan part on hackfoldr (in the vTaiwan folder)(https://beta.hackfoldr.org/1eNzwwToO115tymnQG-uernW5adC1k_CAsIkB0ZYVAtU/https%253A%252F%252Fissuu.com%252Fpdis.tw%252Fdocs%252Fconsultation_meeting%253Fe%253D30178544%252F61820174).
Please help check the content in advance and feel free to let me know if I miss anything important.
Please help check the content in advance and feel free to let me know if I miss anything important.
olivebranch.a
2018-05-29 17:51:28
@itsmisscs @darshana Regarding Tools & Method slides, page 15 is where I will introduce you two to jump in and give a presentation about Pol.is. Thank you! :pray:
Thanks @olivebranch.a! Will look through
@olivebranch.a I will be giving the Polis presentation. I’ll make some slides for that. Let’s discuss what is needed at our meeting?
olivebranch.a
2018-05-30 08:00:36
@darshana yep 👍 see you at 10, thank you!
dzn
22:19:17
Thanks @olivebranch.a! Will look through
dzn
22:20:30
@olivebranch.a I will be giving the Polis presentation. I’ll make some slides for that. Let’s discuss what is needed at our meeting?
npstorey
22:54:39
Just sent nudges to all my contacts. Hope it helps!
dzn
23:09:26
yay! Thanks!!
2018-05-30
Fang
02:48:03
@darshana @itsmisscs I have updated the website content on google doc. Could you please help update the website? Thanks! https://docs.google.com/document/d/12KIFEcPOHas8eWAgK1AWUqg_q_WHm6mr7eNO7FLsRt0/edit?usp=sharing
itsmisscs
2018-06-01 19:55:59
Will look at these tonight. I’ve been out of contact for a few days giving a couple talks.
itsmisscs
2018-06-09 23:09:44
Preview link https://deploy-preview-38--trainingg0vnetwork.netlify.com/ I am going to merge it in. If there are any issues, it would be great if folks could submit PR.
itsmisscs
2018-06-09 23:10:56
Changes include:
- Updated the intro text
- Changed vTaiwan copy under the photo + added link to site
- Updated PO copy and added link to site
- Add another list item about getting to hear first hand experiences
- Removed Patcon (per his request)
- Updated the intro text
- Changed vTaiwan copy under the photo + added link to site
- Updated PO copy and added link to site
- Add another list item about getting to hear first hand experiences
- Removed Patcon (per his request)
dzn
02:50:06
Thanks!!
dzn
02:50:09
@itsmisscs I will submit a pull request.
Fang
03:25:45
I've also uploaded my slides and materials for PO Network part on hackfoldr (in the PO Network folder.) https://beta.hackfoldr.org/1eNzwwToO115tymnQG-uernW5adC1k_CAsIkB0ZYVAtU/https%253A%252F%252Fissuu.com%252Fpdis.tw%252Fdocs%252Fconsultation_meeting%253Fe%253D30178544%252F61820174
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olivebranch.a
08:00:36
@darshana yep 👍 see you at 10, thank you!
dzn
10:00:55
dzn
13:39:25
invitations updates on this thread..
@patcon @katehnicholson mind emailing the people you put on the list, reminding them to get tickets
@devin can we send out a reminder email tomorrow?
I sent out emails to the 2/3 ranked people we have emails for, if you have put in a name and no email, can you please add and bold it so I can send.
@nathan.p.storey ^^
feel free to email people. Thanks!!
also, resent emails to people who did not open their email yet.
devin
2018-05-31 04:23:14
Yay great. Thanks for doing all this. Ill be on the road til tonight/tomorrow then send out emails etc.
itsmisscs
2018-06-01 19:56:31
Awesome! Great work @darshana ++
not that many tickets sold but things are moving with a lot of personal emailing and much help from @nathan.p.storey 🙂
list here in people attending.
Green 100%, Yellow said yes but haven’t bought. Mostly our names so we can decide how our tickets will be treated
Also, I have started offering 1 day tickets based on Taiwan teams feedback. Hope that is ok. Let me know if it isn’t.
realizing that expecting very busy people to block off 2 entire work days with no option to leave for a meeting was ambitious!
devin
2018-06-02 05:22:18
Ya good idea
Halving the price is the decent thing to do, right? lol
when in doubt err on the side of decency.
going with the halving
devin
2018-06-02 06:05:41
Ya we should just record which day so we can sell Tix on the other day
dzn
13:40:10
@patcon @katehnicholson mind emailing the people you put on the list, reminding them to get tickets
dzn
13:40:27
@devin can we send out a reminder email tomorrow?
2018-05-31
dzn
04:16:46
I sent out emails to the 2/3 ranked people we have emails for, if you have put in a name and no email, can you please add and bold it so I can send.
dzn
04:16:52
@nathan.p.storey ^^
dzn
04:16:58
feel free to email people. Thanks!!
dzn
04:17:13
also, resent emails to people who did not open their email yet.
devin
04:23:14
Yay great. Thanks for doing all this. Ill be on the road til tonight/tomorrow then send out emails etc.
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