lizbarry
that would be cool if possible
facilitation-fest-nyc
Month: 2018-05
2018-05-01
dzn
@sylin @fang @olivebranch.a @au Can we please get bios and pictures for the training website please. We will be promoting the event using the website, pointing potential sponsors and media to it, and eventually hosting the training videos there. This is the template we will use — https://nyc.g0v.network/
nyc.g0v.network
Your description
olivebranch.a
Let’s talk about this on 10PM/AM call?
au
Audrey Tang, a civic hacker and Taiwan’s Digital Minister in charge of Social Innovation, is known for revitalizing global open source communities such as Perl and Haskell. Audrey served on Taiwan national development council’s open data committee and K-12 curriculum committee; and led the country’s first e-Rulemaking project. Prior to joining the cabinet, Audrey was a consultant with Apple on computational linguistics, with Oxford University Press on crowd lexicography, and with Socialtext on social interaction design.
As for picture, you can use http://audreyt.org/audrey.jpg (high res for print), http://www.opensourceopensociety.com/img/speakers/audrey.jpg (for web); https://pixabay.com/en/users/audreytang-6659931/ (CC0); or any of the portraits at https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyt/page1
As for picture, you can use http://audreyt.org/audrey.jpg (high res for print), http://www.opensourceopensociety.com/img/speakers/audrey.jpg (for web); https://pixabay.com/en/users/audreytang-6659931/ (CC0); or any of the portraits at https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyt/page1
dzn
Thank you!
dzn
Thank you!
dzn
If you need any more details, we can discuss it on our Wednesday call
itsmisscs
@katehnicholson do you do logo designs? i feel like our lil page needs a logo of sorts…could be simple and mostly text
katenicholson
Not generally but let’s talk tomorrow. I can probably get a friend or if if it’s simple and I have a sec, can try something.
katenicholson
Hey - let me know your needs re logo.
itsmisscs
coming along. will def need some content help. keeping first pass simple. can refine as we go.
in-progress.png
@null
@itsmisscs commented on @itsmisscs’s file in-progress.png: speaker and organizer info are all outputting to the page. currently i’m just pulling from the doc with stub for taiwan team
in-progress.png
itsmisscs
very much WIP. Much of the content is stubbed especially in Tickets section. Another handful of hours today and should have it in a state that we can go out to the world with. Will continue to expand throughout the week. https://network-effects.surge.sh/
network-effects.surge.sh
vTaiwan Open Consultation & Participation Officers Training
Sample
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2018-05-02
itsmisscs
What are we using for tonight’s call?
olivebranch.a
could cs suggest one? all i have is my appear.in channel lol
olivebranch.a
fang and I are ready
Fang
Video conversations with up to 4 people for free - no login, no downloads. Create a video room. Share the link. Appear together. Try it now at <https://appear.in>
itsmisscs
room is full
itsmisscs
also is it 10:30/11:30 or 10?
shuyang
ohhhh
shuyang
now
itsmisscs
i thought i t was 10:30/11:30…sorry
shuyang
let me change to zoom
itsmisscs
how about jitsi?
itsmisscs
meet.mayfirst.org
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itsmisscs
lol what does now mean?
shuyang
we are in that meeting now.
shuyang
hey
shuyang
we are in jitsi
dzn
@itsmisscs are you in jitsi?
dzn
can’t hear you
olivebranch.a
can anyone hear me?
itsmisscs
switching to chrome
shuyang
@fiorella here
shuyang
housing and gentrification…
shuyang
😞
shuyang
didn’t say transportation at all
shuyang
but glad that you all like it..
fiorella
@fiorella has joined the channel
dzn
primeproduce.coop/what-we-do.html
npstorey
@nathan.p.storey has joined the channel
npstorey
Sorry I’m bad at Slack and just caught on that this channel for organizing the nyc facilitation training in nyc. Pasting the link to my suggestions for possible participants here. Any timeline for when invites will go out? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZQUqWIqOkdD5Gl6c5Jb9OiIRzWH0MYoxzJg90mNeJy0
2018-05-03
devin
@nathan.p.storey I'll onboard you now
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lizbarry
Hi folks, what does everyone's Friday afternoon in NYC schedules look like? Please respond to thread, thanks! @itsmisscs @darshana @devin @katehnicholson @nathan.p.storey and anyone else i forgot to mention ❤️
itsmisscs
Will be at Orbital early afternoon onward
dzn
I can make it. 2PM onwards.
devin
Free around 3.
lizbarry
Great! Let's aim for 3pm or as soon thereafter as possible!
npstorey
Unfortunately I can’t make it tomorrow or the next Friday. I don’t need to insert myself into the decision making process of who gets an invite - mainly want to contribute suggestions and provide any info about nyc gov that may be helpful. Since I have limited/unpredictable time availability I’m happy to contribute when I can as long as it’s useful.
npstorey
I’ll be ready to send an invite out to any of the people from my list once the invite list is finalized.
devin
Thx nathan. Hopefully we'll come up with an easy way for you to contribute knowledge on the invite list without it taking too much time. 🙂
dzn
agenda for Friday meeting — https://hackmd.io/u6o7ig6VS0ue4_LZsnc2Jw?both
katenicholson
Hi all - i just moved and am in major catch up mode on a few fronts, so unfortunately don’t have bandwidth tomorrow. Im planning to come next friday. Ill chime in if I see any opportunities to help out until then, otherwise I look forward to coming on board next week.
lizbarry
thanks Kate! we'll try to be clearer about where a good spot to pitch in might be 🙂 thanks so much for your help last week with editing the form!
patcon
I have a last-minute appointment with some friends to open a bank account at 3:30-5pm today :(
itsmisscs
@devin please let us know when you are here so we can buzz you in
devin
Thx. 15 minish for me. What should I bring? Coissants?
lizbarry
sure! savory
devin
To late downstairs
itsmisscs
@patcon if you free up, we’d love to get you on the phone to talk about people you nominated.
2018-05-04
dzn
Hi Taiwan team. Thank you for your introductions and pictures!
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hackmd.io 
2018-05-05
dzn
1-page cover sheet for Sloan Foundation grant
2018-05-06
dzn
@lizbarry sloan 1-pager ready for hand-off to you 🙂
dzn
1-page cover sheet for Sloan Foundation grant
2018-05-07
lizbarry
picking up now
lizbarry
this is nice work D, thanks
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lizbarry
the timing of your commas is so commonwealth ❤️
dzn
For queen and crown ✊🏾✊🏾 😉
lizbarry
ok i did tiny edits and i'm already done, thank you so much for overhauling this! @itsmisscs, i'm wondering if you can put an eyeball on this now?👀👁️👓👁️🗨️🕶️
itsmisscs
Took a look @darshana and @lizbarry 💯 My one question is whether it can be on behalf of g0v Network. Your earlier version listed it this way, D.
Is there anything else that goes with the application to the Sloan Foundation?
Is there anything else that goes with the application to the Sloan Foundation?
dzn
@devin @patcon too. We have promised things on all your behalf. Speak now or forever hold your peace.
dzn
The plan is to send this out on Monday.
1
itsmisscs
Will check when I get home.
devin
hi folks. I put together a temporary page on sarapis for the application - http://sarapis.org/vtaiwan-nyc/
Sarapis
vTaiwan Open Consultation & Participation Officer Trainings
In the spirit of international exchange and with the support of the Taiwanese government, we are pleased to announce the first English language opportunity to learn the facilitation methods that po…
dzn
I don’t see anything
devin
wooooops http://sarapis.org/vtaiwan-nyc/
itsmisscs
morning @patcon, could you setup a subdomain for the site? Two Friday’s ago agreed to go with `training.g0v.network` for this first version.
itsmisscs
I created a new repo for training.g0v.network. I was a bit frustrated with Jekyll site when I sat down to work on it. So…I did what every dev should not do and I started clean with a static site generator called Gatsby. It functions similarly, static markdown content, can be autodeployed.
For speed, I set it up on Netlfy (a heroku for static sites) which also powers a nifty little CMS setup for admin folks (can demo). We can easily point Netlify to custom DNS or I can move the contents of the site into the other repo. Here’s how we can setup Gatsby with Heroku https://www.gatsbyjs.org/docs/deploy-gatsby/#heroku.
For speed, I set it up on Netlfy (a heroku for static sites) which also powers a nifty little CMS setup for admin folks (can demo). We can easily point Netlify to custom DNS or I can move the contents of the site into the other repo. Here’s how we can setup Gatsby with Heroku https://www.gatsbyjs.org/docs/deploy-gatsby/#heroku.
patcon
i've heard great things about netlify, so 👍
itsmisscs
Cool beans. I have you admin access. I can also set it and send you details for DNS.
patcon
okie doke, i'll check email and get custom domains set up on netlify. thanks!
patcon
ok done in aws route53, but DNS not showing up yet 🙂
itsmisscs
thanks, @patcon! waiting by for DNS 👩🚀🏾
itsmisscs
@olivebranch.a @fang @sylin do you have any photos from a prior PO workshop? thanks in advance! 
itsmisscs
Here’s the completed site with the content areas we discussed on Friday—link to fill out the application, link to sponsorship prospectus. https://trainingg0vnetwork.netlify.com. Anyone can edit any of the content in Github https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network. Most everything is in `data` or `content` with some minor exceptions. Any code committed to `master` will auto deploy. I’ve asked @patcon to setup the agreed upon subdomain for the project.
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itsmisscs
Feel free to open up issues as well. ^^
lizbarry
WOW!!!!!!!
lizbarry
For @patcon, the criteria is "the capacity and influence to deploy participatory processes at scale; including, government officials from cities worldwide, community organizers, and academics."
patcon
re: g0v.network email.
patcon
great idea! but we're on route53, and they don't do email forwarding 😞
itsmisscs
i can add us to mayfirst. we can all be admins which will give us access to admin email address etc
patcon
for now, we can use https://improvmx.com/ to forward all incoming email addresses to g0v.network@googlegroups.com. that'll keep a record outside individual mailboxes for posterity
itsmisscs
on plus side we’ll get a nextcloud instance and unlimited email addresses
itsmisscs
Great ++ all for it
patcon
also, would love to stay thoughtful on wearing the banner of "g0v.network" judiciously -- we're not yet able to organize a community like theirs, so it feels a little funny for a handful of us to wear the whole big name, if that makes sense 🙂
patcon
also, should the g0v.network@googlegroups.com list be public or private?
patcon
(google groups can be renamed, so if we decide we want a public mailbox later, we can switcheroo it and vacate the high-level namespace)
itsmisscs
public makes sense to me. private for now because of applications?
itsmisscs
open by default 
patcon
ok, so this improvmx.com service isn't working. options: 1) switch domain to a place with email forwarding, or 2) subscribe to something like https://forwardmx.io/pricing for $9/year
any objection to (2)? or should we do a domain xfer to a shared account real quick, with email forwarding?
any objection to (2)? or should we do a domain xfer to a shared account real quick, with email forwarding?
devin
I'd vote for any email address --> google group be a private group. You never know what people are going to send and people don't generally associate email with publishing/public.
devin
also - I'm not particularly comfortable with us claiming personal g0v.network email addresses at this point either. I'd keep it general.
patcon
yep, we'd have to make a larger effort to communicate how we work. my impression is g0v has the constant work of socializing the "we are not a normal group" thing. but happy to kick the can on that for now
itsmisscs
i agree with general
patcon
I'll create an account on forwardmx.io
itsmisscs
but could also see city specific email addy’s…we are too small for such asbtractions. one inbox for all
patcon
my credit is shit, so might be safer if someone with a better credit card attaches theirs, but seems i don't need one for now
patcon
re: username / password (see link to credential library trello card below)
devin
Sarapis has a free/nonprofit Google Apps account that could host email if needed.
itsmisscs
If we’re between Google and Mayfirst, can we go with a service aligned with our values? You can use IMAP to receive your mail in your google inbox and we can create a google user, if we so desire
itsmisscs
multiple people can have admin rights to the hosting order easily
devin
definitely fine with me
patcon
sorry, is it ok if i just use this forwardmx? i just feel close, and i've shared the password here so everyone can have access, so it feels nice and accessible to all 🙂
devin
also fine with me. Just don't want to see you paying for something we can get vfree but maybe it's free so - yay progress. 🙂
patcon
heh, no unfortunately not free, but just something we can all share credentials to, which i really love!
patcon
hopefully will be ready to go in 300 seconds
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/
patcon
ah man, this is laaaame. the update of mx records just isn't showing up yet. supposedly they advise up to 48 hours, but i've never seen it take so long
I've got to run to have a meeting, but I've linked my personal AWS account credentials in the trello card above if someone wants to go into AWS and transfer the domain to another shared account. I'd greatly prefer that if it's being transferred, it gets a quick +1 from someone, and that it go to an account with credentials that can be linked in that doc 🙂 but i'll let it to y'all!
I've got to run to have a meeting, but I've linked my personal AWS account credentials in the trello card above if someone wants to go into AWS and transfer the domain to another shared account. I'd greatly prefer that if it's being transferred, it gets a quick +1 from someone, and that it go to an account with credentials that can be linked in that doc 🙂 but i'll let it to y'all!
itsmisscs
I am finishing up a PR for work then I can look into it if someone hasn’t. on mayfirst we each have our own accounts with same admin access to hosting order. i don’t think we should share the admin account for our servers publicly.
patcon
@itsmisscs def whatever works, but it's not public -- it's in a google doc with locked down access to just some select few -- just to make one simple level of access-control for now. all-or-nothing for passwords until we outgrow that 🙂
itsmisscs
👀 that’s public #deepstate 😉
itsmisscs
i switched nameservers in route 53….taking a bit. going to take the pup out
improvmx.com 2018-05-08
itsmisscs
Should we have an airtable form for training.g0v signups or just direct to g0v.network for “email updates” button?
npstorey
Hey - I have a sick kid on my hands today, so may not have a chance to add email addresses to the outreach document until later tonight
dzn
no problem! Hope kiddo feels better soon 💗
npstorey
Hi - I added contact info for the people from my list. Missing contact info for Gale Brewer, Carlos Menchaca, and Vlada Kenniff, but I can try to get it if needed.
dzn
I can get that info. Meeting Noel on Thursday. Thanks a lot @nathan.p.storey for adding the rest!
dzn
Hi @lizbarry @itsmisscs @patcon @devin I’m starting a new thread so we can discuss what is need to submit the Sloan grant.
dzn
I see the comments on using the group name for submission. My mistake. Sorry! I wrote my name down at the very beginning when this was a more informal ask and then didn’t think about it until now. I will put down all of our names as Principal Investigators (we can’t just put a group name down since they need to know who to hold accountable). I will ask Noel if it’s ok just to use the group email or if a point person is needed for correspondence.
lizbarry
I am still interested in the group format
lizbarry
i just told my non-profit that my name won't be mentioned on this (as we also work with Sloane), so this is not a great solution for me as i'd have to go back and re-disclose conflict of interest with my nonprofit
lizbarry
We are a group, and this is how we can push philanthropy along, by working as a collective. Using a group name, and a group email.
itsmisscs
we have a group email address now, too so we don’t have to use talkto
dzn
It’s not my understanding of how grants work but we can try. I’ll put group name and send
dzn
Also, would be good if everyone went through the list of promises we made and put their name against the outcome that they are willing to be in-charge of/work on. Anything that is not claimed, we should consider removing.
dzn
We’ve promised quite a bit
dzn
video, manual, wiki, online measures, follow-up calls etc.
lizbarry
Thanks for shepherding this D. I agree its important that we look at the outcomes, i'll go do that now. The name thing is also important, and an moment of slippage that can pose a threat to collective dynamics. ❤️
dzn
🙂
dzn
Two other questions:
- thoughts on proposed end time? (I’m guessing that is something like a timeline for completion)
- Should we ask for more than $15,000. That money was for the event and video alone. We have included quite a bit beyond.
@lizbarry ^^
- thoughts on proposed end time? (I’m guessing that is something like a timeline for completion)
- Should we ask for more than $15,000. That money was for the event and video alone. We have included quite a bit beyond.
@lizbarry ^^
dzn
@itsmisscs website looks great!! To add it to the grant and send today or tomorrow, we need one quick round of edits or we can include it as a work in progress that is part of the grant ask (suggestion from Noel when we didn’t have a final website to show). Thoughts?
itsmisscs
Add it into the grant. I can make some edits tonight. Please feel free to edit any and all content. I just stubbed stuff in to provide an idea of how it tells the story
itsmisscs
thanks! 🙂
dzn
Great! I can take a look at content.
dzn
Other kinds of feedback, how would you like?
itsmisscs
Github issues are good. That way there’s accountability and a trail.
dzn
👍🏾
itsmisscs
Known issues i should move over to GH after work
```
trainer section image sizing
menu on smaller devices
need PO image..looks bare
add social links for trainers
add social links for team
```
```
trainer section image sizing
menu on smaller devices
need PO image..looks bare
add social links for trainers
add social links for team
```
dzn
@devin will you take a look at the sponsorship bit on the g0v.network website please and see if that looks fine to you. Thanks for putting together the training content!! Since g0v.network is up and running let’s just use this for the application?
devin
The text is fine. The top level menu links don't all seem to work.
itsmisscs
they should scroll to containers but it isn’t ideally…stops too far up. Can replace those…use regular links for now.
dzn
update: Noel wants to meet on Thursday morning to workshop the sloan submission and make sure we get everything right. Any edits you want to make, do before that please (also, don’t forget to take a look at the outcomes list). Tx!
itsmisscs
Folks (@patcon @devin @lizbarry @darshana ) what should the group email be…`algo@g0v.network`
itsmisscs
nobodies?
itsmisscs
northamerica? hello? hi?
devin
I'd vote for hi@ or info@
patcon
my 2c would be resolution =< "north america" 🙂 i'd love to stay mindful that the distinction between g0v.network and g0v.tw will not be clear to people who come across it -- we even sound "higher up". what about mapping `nyc.training@g0v.network => g0v-network@googlegroups.com` because we can always tweak-alias or rename googlegroup down the road
my preference would be below, but whatever you think best, given about context: 🙂
nyc.training > nyc > northamerica > americas >>> info > hi etc
my preference would be below, but whatever you think best, given about context: 🙂
nyc.training > nyc > northamerica > americas >>> info > hi etc
devin
tbh I'm pretty uncomfortable with the g0v.network framing because we don't have a shared statement about who we are, what we want, and how people can join us, what are our shared values, what responsibilities we're taking for the brand, how can we be held accountable, etc.
devin
as such - I'd agree that nyc-training@ would be best - keeps it specific to this event.
npstorey
Hi - I added contact info for the people from my list. Missing contact info for Gale Brewer, Carlos Menchaca, and Vlada Kenniff, but I can try to get it if needed.
npstorey
Oh! Just thought of another potential invite. Somebody from the Coro New York Leadership Center. They have worked in nyc gov and non-profit leadership development for decades. I did a training there once that was great. I have a contact there if you are interested. Check out their theory of change: https://coronewyork.org/about-coro/coros-theory-of-change/
Coro New York
Our Theory of Change was developed to reflect the change we want to see in the world and to guide our current and future programs.
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katenicholson
Hey <!channel> - where are we making invite suggestions?
dzn
katenicholson
Thanks!
dzn
🙂
2018-05-09
lizbarry
nyc.training@g0v.network sounds great to me too!
lizbarry
Hi all, are we on for a 10pm call tonight?
itsmisscs
Shall we use the vnetwork jitsi line?
shuyang
yup
itsmisscs
Can you slack me the call in details ? 😝
itsmisscs
The phone number...
dzn
what’s the line
dzn
can you slack please
dzn
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itsmisscs
@darshana can you send me the phone number? It's on the bottom.
dzn
expand transportation access into areas not served?
how do you counter gentrification and build diversity into city neighborhoods?
How to build smart cities that are not run by corporations?
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
how do you counter gentrification and build diversity into city neighborhoods?
How to build smart cities that are not run by corporations?
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
lizbarry
So grateful to people on this call right now (sleeeeeepyyyy)
shuyang
Fang-Jui Chang
4:30 AM Today
＊Possible issues:
1. Artificial insemination policy for single women.
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
3. Drunk driving issue.
4. Housing.
4:30 AM Today
＊Possible issues:
1. Artificial insemination policy for single women.
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
3. Drunk driving issue.
4. Housing.
shuyang
the
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
is very related to
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
2. Build the trust between parents and teachers and improve the working environment in kindergartens (surveillance issue.)
is very related to
surveillance in schools to protect the youth
shuyang
taipeitimes.com
Caning drunk drivers no solution - Taipei Times
Perpetrators of ACCIDENTS due to drunk driving always arouse public fury. Three such notorious cases are those of Yeh Kuan-heng (葉冠亨), nicknamed “Master Yeh” because of his wealthy background, British businessman Zain Dean and, most recently, a hostess who worked at the Golden Jaguar club in Taichung.
olivebranch.a
my messages are on jitsi, just a reminder 😅
shuyang
ps,
my algo when moderating Artificial insemination 🙂
if (人 which is 不分性傾向&&不分婚姻狀態&&不分身體構造){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡)
人.生殖權 == yes
if (人.婚姻狀態 === single && 人.sex_orientation === 異性戀) 人.婚姻權 == yes
}
construct 人() {
人(){
sex = undefined // defined by doctor
age = 0
sex_identity = undefined // defined by law
sex_orientation = undefined // define by oneself
生殖權 = no
婚姻權 = no
婚姻狀態 === single }
update(sex, age){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡){
生殖權 == yes
warning (“define 法定生殖年齡“) }
if (sex_identity === male) if (age > 18) 婚姻權 == yes
if (sex_identity === female) if (age > 20) 婚姻權 == yes
}
}
if (人.生殖權 == yes){
生殖價值 attach 平等
if (人 apply 助孕科技 === legal && 人 apply 避孕科技 === legal){
生殖價值 attach 自由
}}
my algo when moderating Artificial insemination 🙂
if (人 which is 不分性傾向&&不分婚姻狀態&&不分身體構造){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡)
人.生殖權 == yes
if (人.婚姻狀態 === single && 人.sex_orientation === 異性戀) 人.婚姻權 == yes
}
construct 人() {
人(){
sex = undefined // defined by doctor
age = 0
sex_identity = undefined // defined by law
sex_orientation = undefined // define by oneself
生殖權 = no
婚姻權 = no
婚姻狀態 === single }
update(sex, age){
if (人.age > 法定生殖年齡){
生殖權 == yes
warning (“define 法定生殖年齡“) }
if (sex_identity === male) if (age > 18) 婚姻權 == yes
if (sex_identity === female) if (age > 20) 婚姻權 == yes
}
}
if (人.生殖權 == yes){
生殖價值 attach 平等
if (人 apply 助孕科技 === legal && 人 apply 避孕科技 === legal){
生殖價值 attach 自由
}}
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dzn
424 W 54th St (between 9th and 10th aves), New York, NY
shuyang
optimistic futures @ NZ
https://www.optimisticfutures.nz/
https://www.optimisticfutures.nz/
shuyang
Bodystorming is a technique sometimes used in interaction design or as a creativity technique. The idea is to imagine what it would be like if the product existed, and act as though it exists, ideally in the place it would be used. It is going through an idea with improvised artifacts and physical activities to envision a solution. This User Experience Design (UXD) technique is ideal to design physical spaces (e.g. the interior design of a shop) but can also be used to design physical products or software.
shuyang
Ash at CIID
Bodystorming – Living in the Problem Space
Tim Brown of IDEO speaks here on the importance of the (work/play?) environment used by leading design teams worldwide. Closely connected is the ideation method called Bodystorming, a complimentary to Brainstorming, which we practiced at CIID recently. We borrowed the challenge of building a ‘Cartoon House’ from early Xerox PARC attempts to use the process to envision future technologies. Bill Verplank was our principal instructor, guide and crit for the mini-project. Bodystorming is essentially an immersive ideation process for groups, where simulation, role-playing, play acting and interactive prototyping become the materials for design. It takes the design group of of the studio and into the real world where design creations live, amongst people with real problems and desires. Nevertheless, this world is an elaborate simulation designed for the team to live with those needs/problems/desires rather than simply ‘talk’ about them. Ideas for solutions are ‘built’, not sketched, taking full of the scalability of paper prototyping techniques. The solutions are then placed context, used (in simulation), new insights and problems derived, and the process is repeated all over again. Consequent iterations serve to move the team through a remarkable range of refinement in ideas. An interesting connection here is Brend Laurel’s work positioning design as theatre, which I would like to explore more here sometime. Our team worked on a futuristic living room concept design based on the persona of Jason – a married twenty-something Taiwanese male, living alone and away from his wife Janice while studying in Copenhagen. Technologies possibly 20 years into the future were considered. In addressing Jason’s needs and desires, the living room was designed to help Jason better manage his long-distance relationship, provide ready outlets to his strong technological and gaming interests, and promote his social life in a new city with a very different culture than his own. In presenting the concept to Bill and team of teachers, we enacted out a typical weekday evening in the life of Jason, therefore demonstrating the use of the many technologies embedded into his living room. Jason in his simulated living room. Janice is 'generated' next to Jason on his memory couch for an evening chat. Widgets of all kinds populate Jason's interactive window. A wall for idea generation while bodystorming. Simulation of VR video game playable on Jason's living room table.
2018-05-10
lizbarry
hi North America crew, is there any chance we could do our crowdfunding worktime that we scheduled for Friday on Saturday instead?
dzn
I can do before 1PM on Saturday.
itsmisscs
Site is resolving http://training.g0v.network/
training.g0v.network
vTaiwan Open Consultation & Participation Officers Training
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
itsmisscs
For some reason Let’s Encrypt settings are throwing an error. I’ll open up a help ticket. Should have https soon.
itsmisscs
Thread: Team email is up and running. `nyctraining.g0v.network`. @darshana @lizbarry @devin @patcon
itsmisscs
All email forwards to your personal account. To send mail using the account through gmail, following these directions https://github.com/g0vNYC/hub/blob/3f9822dd64ef94fb745646eb9705875e7faa4b5f/email-setup.md#configure-your-account-to-send-mail-as-your-project-email-account. Use the username and password you received in DM.
itsmisscs
@darshana, you would use your talktonyc username and password. let me know if you need those reset
lizbarry
AWESOME!
dzn
I can get into the talkto email. tx.
itsmisscs
It’s your personal one, not hi but darshana@talkto.nyc
lizbarry
thank you! I follwed these directions and everything worked great, just need to know what the link is for checking mail on MayFirst to confirm that i have access to that inbox in order to forward to gmail. @itsmisscs let me know if you know what the link is!
dzn
Hey. Sorry I am late to get on this. I will need a reset I think.
lizbarry
ok i didint' need what i thought i needed, and mine is working -- thanks @itsmisscs AKA web genie!
itsmisscs
There's no mayfirst webmail for g0v accounts. It's all forwarding to personal accounts.
itsmisscs
If you get it in your personal account, you are set. Follow the directions in github to allow you to send mail as the email addy.
dzn
@itsmisscs the email I received had your email on it not mine
itsmisscs
Which one?
2018-05-11
itsmisscs
Are we still meeting tomorrow for weekly checkin? @darshana @patcon @lizbarry @devin
itsmisscs
If so, can we agree on a start time where we can review the agenda + go through Trello.
katenicholson
I could come after 2pm!
itsmisscs
Whose still on for work session/check-in today?
dzn
I can start around 2PM too.
itsmisscs
@devin or @lizbarry are you either of you joining today?
devin
I could be there 330-6ish
lizbarry
i am till finishing another Public Lab grant! a giant 3-year behemoth of 170 + pages
lizbarry
i can connect tmrw
itsmisscs
@devin are you available tomorrow? if not, we can have work session tomorrow and connect on general progress today
katenicholson
Okay. If we connect on gen progress let’s make it at 4/5? Don’t need more than an hour and, so it doesn’t chop the day.
katenicholson
Good luck @lizbarry !
itsmisscs
4-5 for checkin works. i added a few items to the agenda.
devin
We meeting at orbital 4-5 or is this all virtual?
katenicholson
I was gonna ask the same...
katenicholson
What’s good @itsmisscs @darshana ?
dzn
4PM is good for me
itsmisscs
4-5 checkin
itsmisscs
can be whatever…
dzn
oh oops. Didn’t see the question clearly. If it’s only for 1 hour, I prefer virtual.
katenicholson
Okay - appear in link?
itsmisscs
itsmisscs
Sorry I will be 10 min late. Have to wrap up a work call.
katenicholson
All good, @darshana @devin so a 410 start
itsmisscs
@sylin @fang do you have any photos from past PO workshops that you can share with me? Thanks in advance!
Fang
Sure! I'll upload some photos to google drive and share the link.
itsmisscs
Added issues for the website to Github. If you have any others, don’t hesitate to add an issue. https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network/issues
GitHub
g0v-network/training.g0v.network
training.g0v.network - English language facilitation training site
itsmisscs
@darshana @lizbarry sent you both owner invites to the org + project
Fang
Sure! I'll upload some photos to google drive and share the link.
shuyang
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shuyang
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shuyang
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shuyang
2017-05-19 10.39.18.jpg
shuyang
2017-06-27 11.15.38.jpg
shuyang
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shuyang
2017-06-27 14.06.33.jpg
shuyang
oops
shuyang
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itsmisscs
Thank you @sylin @fang
2018-05-12
itsmisscs
Meeting Thread
itsmisscs
itsmisscs
itsmisscs
I had some questions about some cards that we didn’t get to address on the phone. Going to ping folks here for updates/discussion
itsmisscs
@devin what’s the plan with media event on 13th https://trello.com/c/VXKbbSij
lizbarry
Good morning! I'm looking forward to getting caught up here and on the Trello and in the docs. I have some family stuff for the next 3 hours and then will check in
itsmisscs
Morning. When do we want to sync to work on the script?
dzn
I am out for the day sadly but will leave notes in trello for sloan, which is my news for the week
2018-05-13
lizbarry
What's your schedule today @itsmisscs? I'll also be available tmrw early afternoon thru 7pm
itsmisscs
I’m around and working today. I wanted to get a move on the critical items we agreed on yesterday then get going on invites and sponsor money. I will also be working tomorrow. Perhaps we connect then on the script?
itsmisscs
I feel a little too flustered by the other smaller pieces to focus on content today. Will feel better knowing we have invites and money requests out in the world.
lizbarry
Ok sounds like I need to first get caught up on the trello
lizbarry
I'm arranging with PatCon to review the spreadsheet for invitations, wanna get on a phone call?
2018-05-14
dzn
@lizbarry @devin @itsmisscs @patcon starting new thread for Sloan grant.
dzn
I have made last and (hopefully!) final edit to sloan grant.
dzn
I think this part is good to go. Noel wants to send it to his person at sloan ASAP. I will have it out by tomorrow with our sponsorship doc.
dzn
Sloan needs names with the cover letter, we can’t get by with group name and email. @lizbarry you are not comfortable putting your name on? Who else does not want their name on?
dzn
They also need a budget sheet (which we can send later) — https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Se3noI_2vfA0YKO0HNw1Pd5TPdBOd3s5rqJoBJ9nWMA/edit#gid=0
dzn
dzn
we can ask for some $ for the time we put into this. What are thoughts on this?
dzn
According to Noel, a fair asking price is 3K for 1 month. He said for one main organizer, but we can ask the same amount and just split it. Actually, I am going to try for $1000 each. @lizbarry can you accept money for the project?
dzn
we should also ask for $ for each of the outcome projects—video, manual, wiki. What amount is acceptable?
dzn
@itsmisscs update on website fixes?
itsmisscs
Finishing up but in tonight.
itsmisscs
Thanks for the updates on the grant.
itsmisscs
Video is 3-5k. Manual and wiki I am not certain. We should factor server costs of 20$ per month.
dzn
sounds good. Thanks!!
lizbarry
Thank you D!
lizbarry
I will check in on my side abt name
lizbarry
I expect / hope to hear back early AM. If I don't maybe you guys go ahead without me on this
dzn
We have a bit of time. As long as it’s tomorrow..
lizbarry
seems like i can go on solo as an individual (not listed as staff member of Public Lab, for instance). Can you share what the name of the program officer at Sloane is? thanks! and then i think it's GTG
dzn
cool! Shall I put your name in as one of the PIs then?
dzn
The person’s name is Justin I think
dzn
can ask Noel
lizbarry
great, thanks!
lizbarry
Hi @darshana, thanks for pushing on this. how much later will we be able to send this budget sheet?
dzn
He wants it all together 😞
dzn
working on it now
dzn
almost done!
dzn
take a look?
lizbarry
yes?
dzn
2 min!
dzn
🙂
2018-05-15
Fang
@darshana @itsmisscs This is the interesting project I mentioned last Wednesday - 'What if we could turn planning policy into algorithmic code?' I saw this in an exhibition at Future City Catapult.
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Fang
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lizbarry
Hi organizers, just FYI i've heard back from my Consensys connection who CC'd in a "c-level" from the company, and Eric Gordon from Engagement Lab has a question about "if there's only one day i could attend, which should it be". Looking forward to working on these tmrw
dzn
sloan_sample_budget-g0vNetwork-sloan.xlsx
dzn
@lizbarry budget sheet ^^
lizbarry
wow this format. Thanks for working on this!
lizbarry
is your name really Darshans?
lizbarry
also: "Hors d'oeuvre"
lizbarry
IT LOOKS FANTASTIC
lizbarry
💯
dzn
lol
dzn
fixing everything
dzn
including my name 😄
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dzn
Also, does any one have a CV on hand to send to Sloan. I have mine but the more the merrier.
dzn
@lizbarry Thanks!! Got yours 🙂
dzn
impressed I am!!
lizbarry
lol i should really reformat. had the same one for like....years
dzn
try this for CV formatting
dzn
a LaTeX skin
dzn
saved my life
dzn
they have some good templates!
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lizbarry
Where can i submit an issue about the speaker's image ratios on http://training.g0v.network/?
dzn
@itsmisscs I added an issue on Fang’s request
dzn
also, sloan will probably look at website tomorrow.
dzn
@lizbarry @itsmisscs if you have time tomorrow, maybe we can all do some website work? I’d like to work on some of the content, @lizbarry will be awesome if we can work together on that part. I am free any time after lunch.
lizbarry
Ok Team Toronto will open a video link!
dzn
excellent!! 🙂
dzn
@lizbarry updated budget sheet and 1-pager
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dzn
sloan_sample_budget-g0vNetwork-sloan.xlsx
dzn
CoverSheet-g0vNetwork-Sloan.docx
dzn
some budget changes @devin convinced me that reception will not cost that much and that we should probably keep things under 20k
lizbarry
nice
dzn
@lizbarry saw the comments you made on the google doc. It’s a bit outdated. Started working on word to get thir formatting correct
lizbarry
ok no prob
dzn
if it looks ok to you, we are good to go!
lizbarry
your comma usage is captivating
dzn
lol. I call it artistic license
dzn
I can’t figure out how to get into my personal g0v.network email 😞 so used my regular email plus common one
lizbarry
that's too bad, but i suppose it's not the end of the world
dzn
if you give me some tips I can fix that now 🙂
dzn
how did you do it?
lizbarry
let me find the instructions.....will be a minute real quick
dzn
ok!
dzn
Thanks thanks
dzn
ah! got your email. that explains it. Mine has CS’s email on it (like yours has ebarry@)
dzn
wires got crossed
lizbarry
ok i did the thing. i am receiveing mail but my outgoing messages when i set my own address to be nyctraining@g0v.network are not sending yet
dzn
I am receiving email too. Can’t send either
dzn
are you able to log into hi@talkto.nyc? I can’t seem to
lizbarry
what is the website to go to to check mail there? i hope i didn't mess up any password stuff
lizbarry
ok i got the "sending as nyctraining@g0v.network" to work. had to go back into gmail settings and update password
lizbarry
ok i don't know how to check webmail for hi@talkto.nyc, but it's still sending and receiving from my ebarry@gmail.com account perfectly. @darshana, can you run a check on it?
dzn
I can’t seem to access the hi@ account
dzn
I am receiving the training@ emails in my gmail inbox though!!
lizbarry
did you get my recent series of tests to hi@ to and from myself?
dzn
hi@ or training@
dzn
?
lizbarry
_just_ now, hi@
dzn
don’t think so
dzn
what did you say
lizbarry
ah ok. so seems like there's a broken pipe on that one.
lizbarry
subject line: "testing send-as hi@talkto.nyc"\
lizbarry
and subject line: "testing if i still get this! (might have messed something up)"
dzn
didn’t get that one
dzn
lol
dzn
nope. not that one either
dzn
BUT.. nyctraining works!!
lizbarry
well you missed a scintillating conversation between me and myself
lizbarry
ok let's fix it tmrw, @itsmisscs & @patcon and i together ALL DAY
dzn
hahahahaha. I’d hate to get in the way of that (you and yourself I mean)
dzn
cool cool. Thanks!!
dzn
I’ll send Noel stuff now and cc nyctraining@
lizbarry
ok so do you want to do any more tests of the nyctraining@g0v.network?
lizbarry
i'm about to fall out of my chair with sedentary-ness
dzn
that seems to work!
dzn
is it nice walking weather in toronto??
lizbarry
sweet, thanks for shipping this tonight! 
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👍 💪
dzn
any time!! I can’t wait to ship this off. It’s been a WHILE
lizbarry
it was warm today but our hemisphere has turned our backs on the sun
dzn
hopefully all the work pays off (literally!)
dzn
Wow Liz. Trigger happy much?
lizbarry
'night D!
dzn
dzn
night!
lizbarry
👀
lizbarry
i can't look away
dzn
it’s my favorite!!
dzn
sooo good.
lizbarry
that's mesmerizing ok i have to force quit this day now ❤️
itsmisscs
I sent directions on how to send. You have to set it up in your gmail.
itsmisscs
That's how to set up your gmail. If you have issues, ping me and we can work on it.
itsmisscs
No one has a personal g0v account. We are using mail forwarding. Everything goes in and out of your email address (gmail accounts for most of you).
lizbarry
thanks CS!
lizbarry
ok great! it looks nice and spiffy on one page
dzn
It worked out but how I hate word!!
dzn
@itsmisscs
dzn
is this the dm with username and password?
dzn
I just sent the Sloan stuff off. Phew! I hope this amounts to something.
dzn
@itsmisscs getting the nyctraining@ emails so no rush on the rest
shuyang
Hey! Is there a finished public website we can use to communicate with our Ministries what facilitation workshop is?
itsmisscs
training.g0v.network
shuyang
謝謝!
itsmisscs
I’m around. Have a short call from 11:30-12. Otherwise, online. Working on through site stuff
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dzn
@sylin this might be useful for communicating with your Ministers..
dzn
vTaiwan Open Consultation & Participation Officers Training .pdf
2018-05-16
dzn
@lizbarry @itsmisscs if you have time for some website stuff I can get on in 30min or so.
lizbarry
hi! sorry i missed this, i'm here now for an hour
dzn
oh yay!!
dzn
website content
dzn
@lizbarry Let’s get on a quick call and go over the changes I made?
lizbarry
sure!
dzn
🙂
dzn
getting on now
dzn
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dzn
g0v-network/training.g0v.network
training.g0v.network - English language facilitation training site
shuyang
itsmisscs
hi folks, i will be late to the meeting tonight/may miss it. fang and i have ✅ her flight. i left updates in the google doc through comments. this week i will be working on getting 3M sponsorship for materials. I’m happy to prioritize housing next. I was a bit confused where that left off last week.
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dzn
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shuyang
chat again soon - for @fang’s part
on Thursday 9pm-10.30pm (TPE) / Thursday 9am-10am (NY)
on Thursday 9pm-10.30pm (TPE) / Thursday 9am-10am (NY)
Fang
Shall we try this link? https://appear.in/pdis
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dzn
website content
olivebranch.a
My name is spelled wrong on the webpage "Avorss is a senior legal consultant of PDIS.tw" (http://training.g0v.network/) :joy:
training.g0v.network
vTaiwan Open Consultation & Participation Officers Training
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
au
Pull request sent
au
Note you can make the edit through pull request too — click “edit” on https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network/blob/master/content/trainers/avross.md will do
olivebranch.a
Thanks for reminding!
lizbarry
merged!
itsmisscs
@darshana @lizbarry I merged one of the pull requests with content changes. The next pull request edits the same file. I’m not sure which is the right one. Are there edits on this one https://github.com/g0v-network/training.g0v.network/pull/25 that are still valid? Take a look at the site http://training.g0v.network/. It is reflecting content changes
GitHub
content edit by DZNarayanan · Pull Request #25 · g0v-network/training.g0v.network
training.g0v.network
vTaiwan Open Consultation & Participation Officers Training
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
dzn
I just added a new pull request
itsmisscs
Looks good. Just merged.
dzn
Thanks!!
dzn
for this part
dzn
the others were showing an error
dzn
this one looks ok
dzn
let me know if it works
dzn
starting new thread for sloan grant updates
dzn
so we heard back from Sloan (look in nyctraining@ email)
dzn
Hey, Noel - sounds like a great opportunity, but too far afield from my core focus on data and computational skills for me to be able to sell in the context of our civic program at Sloan (at least as currently constituted). Sorry I can’t be of direct help - are there other funders you’re thinking of?
dzn
😞
dzn
Let’s send around EVERYWHERE
dzn
also, I’ll chat with Noel and see if we can re-work for sloan
dzn
we have data and computation!
dzn
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @devin @patcon any ideas for more places
dzn
Noel also suggested Craigslist Foundation
dzn
also, I see that the content changes that I made to the vtaiwan section are quite wordy. will refine that
itsmisscs
@ mention me in github or paste the link here if you need any review/help
2018-05-17
Fang
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dzn
hey. I’m on https://meet.jit.si/vnetwork
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dzn
meet here?
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dzn
appear.in has been not so great lately
itsmisscs
Are there notes from today’s meeting for those of us at RightsCon?
dzn
weekly meeting notes always in here — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E-wqamROVahCgzbHi4W8NwDEnKiKRkVUoMtK0jawnOc/edit?ts=5afb8e37#. We went over the plan for day 1 and day 2 this week.
dzn
NY workshop_PDIS
itsmisscs
Thanks @dzn!
2018-05-18
shuyang
@itsmisscs could you add the organisers on the website?
shuyang
It looks like PDIS is organising this event 😛
http://training.g0v.network/
It will be a great help if you can clearly write something like “this is event is organised by the New York City node of the global g0v network, BetaNYC and American Assembly” as described in your invitation letter
http://training.g0v.network/
It will be a great help if you can clearly write something like “this is event is organised by the New York City node of the global g0v network, BetaNYC and American Assembly” as described in your invitation letter
training.g0v.network
vTaiwan Open Consultation & Participation Officers Training
Two-day training in New York City June 11-12 2018. Learn vTaiwan and Participatory Officer training from Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan and members of PDIS Team. Limited space.
itsmisscs
Sure! we can more clear about it. Organizers are here http://training.g0v.network/team but there is no lead/intro text.
itsmisscs
Your suggestion is ++.
shuyang
but this in not in a hurry. anytime you feel comfortable with 🙂
2018-05-19
dzn
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @patcon @devin starting a new thread for the ticketing stuff
dzn
@devin and I put together an eventbrite page today. Feedback please — https://www.eventbrite.com/e/vtaiwan-open-consultation-participation-officers-training-tickets-46243627936. It’s published so you can view it but can be edited.
dzn
one thought — shall we just send everyone in tier 1 the invite and not do the application?
dzn
that’s 54 people
dzn
we selected these people pretty carefully and many have expressed interest in coming already, what if we just see who buys tickets? We are running up against the dates pretty close, will be good to get this sealed.
devin
I saw a tiny letter registration a few days ago in the shared email. Are folks using that for the initial invite? We have a mailchimp from a while ago too we can use.
devin
Just to keep things moving I added our attendees to the g0v.network mailchimp. There are 40 people with rank 1 and email addresses.
lizbarry
i would think so, yes. ping @itsmisscs ?
itsmisscs
Yes
lizbarry
is the $200 ticket price enough to cover minimum costs ?
itsmisscs
@devin I had setup a tiny letter since it’s simpler but if we have mail chimp already, go for it. Didn’t know we had an account
dzn
$250 would be more comfortable but worried that might turn away people
itsmisscs
Sliding scale?
itsmisscs
200-250?
lizbarry
i mean, $200 is already high...
lizbarry
i think we should just ask for what we need
lizbarry
if it's $250 that's not a lot different.
lizbarry
we're only going to be able to sell like 22 or 24 tickets total after all organizers are in
itsmisscs
I’m up for giving up my seat. I don’t need to be in the activities. Listening will be good
lizbarry
6K is our minimum, that's $250*24 seats
dzn
250 would definitely be safer
dzn
we can do that and see what happens
dzn
sell 25 instead of 30?
dzn
also, after going over the PO stuff with Fang I think the training will be most useful to govt and people who work with govt
dzn
we can push through those channels a bit more heavily as a professional development thing
2018-05-20
dzn
Hey NYC crew. We missed our usual friday. Have some time to chat today?
lizbarry
sure i can do a quickie
dzn
🙂 cool
dzn
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dzn
@lizbarry ready for you — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTAcSg2mzyC6uvuvIl9Hq7e4d1J9kJJuEn8tRumKXcE/edit
dzn
Sloan Round 2
2018-05-21
lizbarry
alright -- reading now, thanks
dzn
One thing I forgot to comment on, I didn't know how to add the receipt thing based on workshop structure. See if you can do better?
dzn
Also, some of those tools will only mentioned, others covered in detail. I just wrote the whole lot in there
dzn
Thanks @lizbarry
lizbarry
alright, i mucked around quite a bit in the first paragraph, check it out
lizbarry
be back in half an hour or so
dzn
hi hi. Cleaned it up so we can fit everything on one page and got the budget stuff ready
dzn
looking good I think, Check if you can. Not a biggie otherwise. Thanks for your writing! Blended that into condensed first paragraph.
dzn
Will send it out tomorrow morning
2018-05-22
itsmisscs
@darshana @lizbarry @devin @patcon Great news from the Awesome foundation! Our submission is in the final rounds. They would like to set up a call
itsmisscs
```The trustees of the Awesome Foundation - NYC chapter met last week to review applications for the June grant, and your application was among a handful that stood out.
We have a couple of follow-up questions about your project. I would love to set up a quick Skype call of about 15 - 20 minutes.
Are there any times this afternoon, tomorrow, or at the latest Wednesday that would work for you?
```
We have a couple of follow-up questions about your project. I would love to set up a quick Skype call of about 15 - 20 minutes.
Are there any times this afternoon, tomorrow, or at the latest Wednesday that would work for you?
```
itsmisscs
The email went to `hi@talktonyc`
devin
nice
lizbarry
Awesome!! Literally!!
dzn
oh wow. Excellent!!
dzn
Those pictures did the trick. Seriously! Was then only thing I changed from round 1.
dzn
I can hop on call at any time
dzn
🙂
dzn
@itsmisscs the application went out in our names let’s coordinate, get on this call and get that $$!
dzn
Also, I can’t seem to sign into the hi@ account. Help @itsmisscs. tx!
dzn
Actually, I just looked… it went out as CC but @lizbarry @patcon your names in there too.
lizbarry
ok i'm in Houston through wednesday night. feel free to have without me or to schedule thurs/fri
itsmisscs
Will be back at computer in 20-30 min. Then will look @darshana
dzn
They say latest Wed, so let’s try for before that? We’ll wax eloquent about you on call @lizbarry 🙂
dzn
The application content is here — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NGLamy4arKORjYTyx-CvuMQJhnWOUYd08njdoS1gIlw/edit#
dzn
@itsmisscs No luck accessing the hi@ email so you will have to coordinate. I can do before 12:30PM and after 3PM tomorrow. Wednesday any time before 5PM is fine. Thanks!
itsmisscs
sent off email
itsmisscs
@darshana can you get to https://roundcube.mayfirst.org/? once you are there, does the lastpass info show?
dzn
The info shows but can't login.
dzn
What time did you suggest for awesome? I need to fit in a meeting. Will work around the times you gave them. Thanks sending email.
devin
If you all want me to attend I'm happy to do it Tuesday - pretty busy Wednesday. Also happy to let you all take it. 🙂
dzn
@devin maybe we just take this one? Will be easier I think since they have our names and pictures from the Taiwan trip. That ok?
dzn
@itsmisscs Don’t worry about troubleshooting email. It’s something on my end. I can see the email you sent on my phone now so password is not the issue. I’ll take care of it.
itsmisscs
@darshana added to shared cal. Call is tomorrow at 10am. Please add Kat on Skype. Her username is also in the event details.
dzn
@itsmisscs I saw the email. Added info. Tx!
itsmisscs
See you on the call tomorrow @darshana. I re-read the application content.
itsmisscs
Thanks for re-submitting for us. Ex-ci-ting to get to this stage. Perhaps this is a sign of what’s to come with Sloan 🤞🏾
itsmisscs
Super positive call
dzn
yep 🙂 Should have told her about Tina!!
itsmisscs
oh! damn. i think it went well
itsmisscs
also they will be such amplifiers for the projects
dzn
we have to send her the materials anyway (for the reception etc.)
dzn
yes!!!
dzn
will be great
itsmisscs
what is the plan for that? are we putting together a paperless post or eventbrighte or mailchimp?
dzn
we can just do the same thing we do for tickets with reception
dzn
mailchimp+eventbrite?
itsmisscs
yeah. the eventbrite is free
devin
When are we planning to send out the first round of invites?
dzn
yesterday
dzn
jokes aside. Thanks for reminder @devin. How about we email the people have on our individual lists the eventbrite?
dzn
For me that would be Micah, BetaNYC, American Assembly
dzn
I can do Christina Xu as well
devin
Why not send it out to all the rank=1
devin
?
dzn
That would be ideal, I thought we were slow on that cause of coordination hitches
devin
I can send out an email with a link to the eventbrite via mailchimp. I just need the content for the email.
dzn
I can send you something today
devin
Great - and are we linking to the eventbrite or the expression of interest? Do we need to discuss that part further?
dzn
that is the part we hadn’t decided on
dzn
I’m happy to just send out to group 1 without needing them to fill out anything. Maybe we can do the expression of interest for 2 and 3.
dzn
Thoughts on adding https://www.navapbc.com/ to group 1?
dzn
after getting to know the PO part better, I think they will really benefit from it
itsmisscs
def expression of interest for 2 and 3. send group 1 the link to register. ++
dzn
@devin @itsmisscs Draft for invitation email — https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Oc8fbueMW5LkK5J2-bJ_CxIMZZVpXFexavpusYdyYE/edit
dzn
dzn
can we also have the person who put down the contact name, email separately?
devin
Yes Nathan has offered to do thst for his names and I'll do it for mine.
dzn
excellent. Then we are mostly set.
dzn
Let’s coordinate tomorrow and get this out the door?
dzn
We have to add a line about the video bit either in eventbrite or email
dzn
also, price is $250
dzn
and number of tickets 25
dzn
@devin I don’t remember if the eventbrite account is a common one or your personal one
itsmisscs
It's common
itsmisscs
The information is in super secret google doc.
itsmisscs
before replying I wanted to check-in to see if we’d gotta back to Haowei Wei’s email. If not, I’ll reply back.
itsmisscs
@devin any plans on the media front for the 13th?
devin
I've spoken with people at NPR and Gotham Gazette about doing something.
devin
For Gotham Gazette, they'll publish an event preview piece if we write it.
devin
for NPR they're interested in interviewing Audrey.
devin
I'd like to do a broader media event but still lack clarity on who would participate. Seems like Audrey is available the 12th for interviews while the workshop is going on and Avross is around til the 18th?
devin
Is there a point person I should coordinate with on the Taiwan team? That's probably the best way forward at this point.
dzn
@sylin is the point person on schedules
itsmisscs
Okay. Will wait to hear confirmation from @sylin about schedules to reply back. Email can go out tonight.
shuyang
Yes
shuyang
Audrey will be available on the 12th, and Avross will be around til 18th
devin
Is there anyone else in your party that should be speaking to the press or just them?
shuyang
Who are you looking for?
devin
I'm trying to figure out which types of journalists to reach out to for the visit.
devin
Considering that schedules are tight and journalists aren't always flexible with time, the more people who make themselves available for interviews the better.
shuyang
Note that we don’t need to be arranged with press. We will be happy to have a quiet visit, especially Audrey.
devin
And if certainly people are particularly concenred with certain topics - then we can try to place them with journalists that are also interested in those topics.
shuyang
Other people, on the other hand, like Avross, Fang-jui can be front facing
shuyang
(Will come back to you in few hours)
devin
ok thx
devin
hi @sylin let's work together to arrange for some media interviews/events while your team is in NYC.
devin
please join me in this thread. 🙂
itsmisscs
@darshana can you login from https://roundcube.mayfirst.org/? the info is what’s in the shared folder
dzn
no luck. that’s the info I’ve been using.
dzn
don’t know what happened
dzn
reset password?
itsmisscs
Nope. That's how I get in too. Tried it on various computers.
itsmisscs
Lunch plans ++
2018-05-23
dzn
Isn’t it cool! 🙂 This reminds me, I told Tina I would invite her here so she can show us all the amazing things she has been putting together. There’s a whole other board she has going!!
itsmisscs
YESSSSS very much so
itsmisscs
If this space is too overwhelming the other option is a Trello card
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tinabeans
@t has joined the channel
dzn
Hi everyone. Please meet @t. Incredibly talented chef and designer. She is crafting a vTaiwan/PO Training inspired food experience for June11&12 and will be feeding us with many yummies! 🍲🍙🍘🌯 🍧 🍣 🥪
katenicholson
ALSO, fun fact. @t was my first college roommate!
tinabeans
haha hi kate! omg yay you’re here too!
dzn
wow. small world 🙂
itsmisscs
WOW!
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tinabeans
helloooo
itsmisscs
Hi Tina, do you have a short bio I can put up on site? And any social media accounts you’d like to link.
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tinabeans
nice to meet y’all!
tinabeans
im going to be doing some recipe prototypes this week! but it looks like i’m converging on 2 ideas for the 2 days. can’t wait to share with y’all
tinabeans
lots of opportunities for feedback once we are at a higher level of detail so i’d love to hear from all of you
dzn
@sylin @fang @anyone else joining meeting, would it be ok if we started at 10:30PM today?
itsmisscs
10:30 is fine for me. Tomorrow I can't do evening but could do something in the morning.
Fang
10:30AM taiwan time today is fine for me. I'm also fine to chat tomorrow, but I'll be free from 10:50AM taiwan time onwards.
itsmisscs
I have a call from 11-11:30 tomorrow. Is that too late?
dzn
10:30AM taiwan time.
dzn
Also, since Avross is a bit ill today, if postponing is better, I can do tomorrow 10:30PM onwards also.
Fang
10:30AM taiwan time today is fine for me. I'm also fine to chat tomorrow, but I'll be free from 10:50AM taiwan time onwards.
itsmisscs
We doing this or postpone? I can rearrange my evening tomorrow too
shuyang
ok, postpone to tmr 11am - 12am
shuyang
ny 11pm-mid night (thanks for staying up late with us)
shuyang
@itsmisscs if you want to catch up now, I am up for it. let me know
itsmisscs
Chilling in jitsi but sounds like tomorrow?
itsmisscs
K. Will move my call. 👌🏾
dzn
hi. So sorry!! I got totally bamboozled. Yun Chen Chien came to NYC today and is staying with me. Her bus delayed, then hackathon, then train delay. Phew!
dzn
What’s the plan?
dzn
I can talk now or tomorrow
dzn
I see plan now. 11AM/PM tomorrow. Cool!
olivebranch.a
hey guys, sorry that i'll have a meeting with MOEA tmr morning (Taipei Time), so I can't make it at 11AM/PM
olivebranch.a
I can do at THU. night (THU. morning in NYC). Friday is also flexible for me. 🙏
itsmisscs
What's the plan? Are we meeting?
olivebranch.a
@darshana @sylin @fang re-reschedule? I can do at Thu. night and Friday morning or night, but if the original plan (Thu. 11am/pm) is the best for everyone, I can just sync with fang and shu 😎 sorry about causing the inconvenience again 😣
itsmisscs
no worries avross. is there anything that’s pressing for the group? Sounds like @sylin needs to connect with @devin.
itsmisscs
not sure if you were referencing taiwan times.thursday eve i’m busy, i can do morning tomorrow or friday morning (but that’s your saturday)
olivebranch.a
Yes I was using Taiwan time. Seems like Thursday night (Thursday morning in NYC) works for fang, cs and me! How about @darshana and @sylin ? Let’s say 8 AM(NYC)/PM(TW) on Thursday?
itsmisscs
+1 here for 8am/pm.
dzn
I can do Thursday morning
shuyang
I will be on the move but I can quickly give you some updates on logistics
itsmisscs
Okay! If we should have those sooner, @sylin, we can jump on a call before
olivebranch.a
👍 see you on Thursday at 8AM/PM 🤓
itsmisscs
Jitsi vnetwork room work for everyone?
olivebranch.a
Works for me! Url, please, thanks!
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shuyang
Will @devin be there tmr? I have some updates for audrey’s schedule (need to explore digital doubles options)
devin
Hi. Lets chat here.
olivebranch.a
Slido has a great theme of nyc as background, yay. this is how the welcome page and poll page look. please help check the wording of the poll question and options, thanks!
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2018-05-24
navapbc.com 
dzn
Update on sponsorship — Elaine Chung chief of staff of City Council member Peter Koo (Noel’s contact) just emailed and is willing to chat and see how she can help us. @itsmisscs can we make the last fixes to website please. Buttons, scaling pictures more, adding PO training image and making the organizer part more prominent (I’ve left issues on github). Let me know when fixes are done and I will share website with her. Thanks!
dzn
More on this topic. I added group email to correspondence with Elaine. There is an event on Tuesday evening if anyone wants to join me. Mind if I handle the email replies though. Noel's request that all correspondence with her goes through one channel.
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@darshana commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: @olivebranch.a Nice background 🙂
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@null
@darshana commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: Can we have full sentence prompts or a 1 line explanation along with the title so people have some context?
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@null
@darshana commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: Let’s discuss this on call tomorrow
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@olivebranch.a commented on @olivebranch.a’s file slido page display.png: Absolutely!
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shuyang
Are we chatting somewhere?
shuyang
Errrr need to go
shuyang
Will sync with the others later.
olivebranch.a
we are done, sync with me then 🙂
dzn
@itsmisscs @devin let’s plan for tomorrow in this thread.
dzn
@devin can you start earlier than usual? 2:30PM? @itsmisscs and I can get on call or be there at that time.
itsmisscs
Earlier would be great.
dzn
I can’t start before 2:30 but if we can decide on plan ahead of time, I will make sure I have everything ready ahead of time
dzn
What do you both think of sitting together and getting all the invites out. If we have website ready and personal emails to the people we know all lined up then we can get everything out the door.
devin
yeah that's exactly what we should do
devin
230 is fine with me
dzn
we should see if nathan can join
dzn
a lot of those names are his recomendations
devin
I spoke to him yesterday. He'll followup with all the people he added once the invites are sent out.
devin
I'll invite him to the meeting tomorrow anyway tho
devin
did we find out if the baby is allowed?
dzn
ah. I forgot about baby. @itsmisscs what do you think? should we ask orbital or not?
itsmisscs
Aren't we sending a general email then following up individually?
itsmisscs
I will ask Gary. Can you confirm his availability?
itsmisscs
@devin can you confirm that nathan is coming?
devin
@nathan.p.storey you interested in working with us at orbital tomorrow - starting at 230?
devin
devin
Yes - email then individual followup is my and Nathan's plan.
npstorey
Hi - I think I’ll have to check in tomorrow over there phone/slack. Baby Mira woke up with a cold this morning, so will probably not be up traveling tomorrow. I can follow up individually with anybody I know after the invites go out.
devin
thx nathan!
itsmisscs
I’m on the way over. I will be there a just past 2
devin
3pm for me
dzn
I’m here but have a call. Can start at 2:30PM.
itsmisscs
cool. i will meet with nikki about the logo then. will get continue with what i’m working on for the site.
itsmisscs
i have to leave by 530/6.
npstorey
I'm available for a quick check-in over phone. Is there a number I can call in to at ~3pm?
devin
ETA 330
devin
Do what you gotta do without me
itsmisscs
@nathan.p.storey @devin Darshana went to get food….not sure when we’re starting here.
devin
cool ya ran into her outside so will come up with her
itsmisscs
@nathan.p.storey we will notify you once we send out a general email to everyone we’d like to attend. would you be okay reaching out to your contracts to give them an extra nudge?
npstorey
Yes, can do. I’m around today until about 4:30
npstorey
Just sent nudges to all my contacts. Hope it helps!
dzn
yay! Thanks!!
2018-05-25
orbital.nyc 
2018-05-26
dzn
Invitation Email
itsmisscs
Wooot Micah gets the first order
npstorey
Did all the emails go out? Should I start follow up emails over the weekend or wait until Tuesday?
2018-05-27
dzn
yes please!!
dzn
we sent all the ranked 1 people.
dzn
Thanks @nathan.p.storey!!
dzn
Either way, now or Tuesday, depending on your time
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dzn
we are going to resend the invite to everyone on Tuesday
dzn
and then do follow-ups
itsmisscs
We got the grant from Awesome Foundation!
itsmisscs
I replied back. What do folks think about starting to sign nobodies?
itsmisscs
I think the funds should go to Sarapis. Any objections from folks? Is that okay, @devin?
devin
Yaaas amazing congrats
dzn
many yays, specially to @lizbarry’s excellent writing
devin
Let me know if there is anything I need to do to process the contribution.
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2018-05-29
olivebranch.a
@darshana @itsmisscs could you do a 15 mins presentation on pol.is? (for the session from 13:30-14:30)
dzn
Will do!
au
Just confirmed that I’ll be at NYC the entire week (June 11 to 16)
au
(I’ll tele-participate to some DC events but staying in NYC the whole time)
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dzn
How excellent! Very glad you will be around.
dzn
If you need to have anything arranged, let us know.
au
Ditto. My trip and schedule is now being managed by TECO New York; if you need any support / arrangements please feel free to contact TECO directly.
dzn
Serendipitous. A contact from city council is introducing us to TECO tomorrow. We will keep you posted!
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dzn
Thanks!
olivebranch.a
I uploaded all of my slides for vTaiwan part on hackfoldr (in the vTaiwan folder)(https://beta.hackfoldr.org/1eNzwwToO115tymnQG-uernW5adC1k_CAsIkB0ZYVAtU/https%253A%252F%252Fissuu.com%252Fpdis.tw%252Fdocs%252Fconsultation_meeting%253Fe%253D30178544%252F61820174).
Please help check the content in advance and feel free to let me know if I miss anything important.
Please help check the content in advance and feel free to let me know if I miss anything important.
olivebranch.a
@itsmisscs @darshana Regarding Tools & Method slides, page 15 is where I will introduce you two to jump in and give a presentation about Pol.is. Thank you! :pray:
dzn
Thanks @olivebranch.a! Will look through
dzn
@olivebranch.a I will be giving the Polis presentation. I’ll make some slides for that. Let’s discuss what is needed at our meeting?
olivebranch.a
@darshana yep 👍 see you at 10, thank you!
2018-05-30
Fang
@darshana @itsmisscs I have updated the website content on google doc. Could you please help update the website? Thanks! https://docs.google.com/document/d/12KIFEcPOHas8eWAgK1AWUqg_q_WHm6mr7eNO7FLsRt0/edit?usp=sharing
itsmisscs
Will look at these tonight. I’ve been out of contact for a few days giving a couple talks.
itsmisscs
Preview link https://deploy-preview-38--trainingg0vnetwork.netlify.com/ I am going to merge it in. If there are any issues, it would be great if folks could submit PR.
itsmisscs
Changes include:
- Updated the intro text
- Changed vTaiwan copy under the photo + added link to site
- Updated PO copy and added link to site
- Add another list item about getting to hear first hand experiences
- Removed Patcon (per his request)
- Updated the intro text
- Changed vTaiwan copy under the photo + added link to site
- Updated PO copy and added link to site
- Add another list item about getting to hear first hand experiences
- Removed Patcon (per his request)
dzn
Thanks!!
dzn
@itsmisscs I will submit a pull request.
Fang
I've also uploaded my slides and materials for PO Network part on hackfoldr (in the PO Network folder.) https://beta.hackfoldr.org/1eNzwwToO115tymnQG-uernW5adC1k_CAsIkB0ZYVAtU/https%253A%252F%252Fissuu.com%252Fpdis.tw%252Fdocs%252Fconsultation_meeting%253Fe%253D30178544%252F61820174
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dzn
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dzn
invitations updates on this thread..
dzn
@patcon @katehnicholson mind emailing the people you put on the list, reminding them to get tickets
dzn
@devin can we send out a reminder email tomorrow?
dzn
I sent out emails to the 2/3 ranked people we have emails for, if you have put in a name and no email, can you please add and bold it so I can send.
dzn
@nathan.p.storey ^^
dzn
feel free to email people. Thanks!!
dzn
also, resent emails to people who did not open their email yet.
devin
Yay great. Thanks for doing all this. Ill be on the road til tonight/tomorrow then send out emails etc.
itsmisscs
Awesome! Great work @darshana ++
dzn
not that many tickets sold but things are moving with a lot of personal emailing and much help from @nathan.p.storey 🙂
dzn
dzn
list here in people attending.
dzn
Green 100%, Yellow said yes but haven’t bought. Mostly our names so we can decide how our tickets will be treated
dzn
Also, I have started offering 1 day tickets based on Taiwan teams feedback. Hope that is ok. Let me know if it isn’t.
dzn
realizing that expecting very busy people to block off 2 entire work days with no option to leave for a meeting was ambitious!
devin
Ya good idea
dzn
Halving the price is the decent thing to do, right? lol
dzn
when in doubt err on the side of decency.
dzn
going with the halving
devin
Ya we should just record which day so we can sell Tix on the other day