#rightscon-2018
2018-05-04
ttcat
20:42:36
I can do both
ttcat
20:42:58
You mean 15th and 22 both right?
lilin
20:48:23
@patcon ttcat will have a meet up on may 22nd evening so maybe have to arrange this a bit later
2018-05-05
patcon
00:49:45
@ttcat was thinking just 22 from 7-7:20 for your speaking. @lilin re: 22nd. oh shoot! will DM
2018-05-09
patcon
04:12:52
@itsmisscs @lizbarry @ttcat one more email from rightscon: https://hackmd.io/Wsi2Vxx2RjitjngCeV6vpg
Added here longterm: https://trello.com/c/iIFAIznh/53-prepare-for-rightscon
Added here longterm: https://trello.com/c/iIFAIznh/53-prepare-for-rightscon
patcon
2018-05-09 04:14:07
@lizbarry @itsmisscs cc'ed you on email about getting sched profiles connected to session, if you want to chime in with your own profile urls 🙂
patcon
2018-05-09 04:18:00
we currently have *NO A/V in room*. I'm assuming that we can't do without this, and so replying to request projector and screen. Anything else? And pls confirm that this correct 🙂 cc @ttcat @lizbarry @itsmisscs
lizbarry
2018-05-09 06:42:58
Thanks @patcon! +1 to requesting a projector
itsmisscs
2018-05-09 07:59:53
Thanks Patcon. Projector yes. If we can't get one, I will bring mine! Profile urls, like our sites? If so, for me compositescollective.com
patcon
04:14:07
@lizbarry @itsmisscs cc'ed you on email about getting sched profiles connected to session, if you want to chime in with your own profile urls 🙂
patcon
04:18:00
Replied to a thread: 2018-05-09 04:12:52
we currently have *NO A/V in room*. I'm assuming that we can't do without this, and so replying to request projector and screen. Anything else? And pls confirm that this correct 🙂 cc @ttcat @lizbarry @itsmisscs
lizbarry
06:42:58
Thanks @patcon! +1 to requesting a projector
itsmisscs
07:59:53
Thanks Patcon. Projector yes. If we can't get one, I will bring mine! Profile urls, like our sites? If so, for me compositescollective.com
ttcat
13:45:50
Please remind me again: what you want me to present? VTaiwan or g0v? How many time I have?
patcon
2018-05-13 04:11:36
heh, my impression was that the topic of "g0v.tw" was what would be the best fit for you, but it is whatever you prefer :slightly_smiling_face:
patcon
2018-05-13 04:13:09
also, the timing is a *20 minute timeslot* before work time. you can use it all to speak, but presenters often use 10-15, and leave the rest for questions 🙂
2018-05-10
lilin
19:30:04
@patcon @lizbarry @itsmisscs
Hello!
We are thinking of airbnb members having dinner together while we are in Toronto, and also with some other Taiwanese participants as some of them are staying in different places. Now 16th night looks best for us, what do you think about it?
Hello!
We are thinking of airbnb members having dinner together while we are in Toronto, and also with some other Taiwanese participants as some of them are staying in different places. Now 16th night looks best for us, what do you think about it?
itsmisscs
2018-05-10 22:05:43
Sounds great!
itsmisscs
2018-05-10 22:05:51
16th works for me
canadian_aaron
2018-05-10 22:22:37
Can I come? XD
itsmisscs
2018-05-11 00:20:47
You better come @canadian_aaron
patcon
2018-05-13 04:09:16
yeah! 16th works for me too!
patcon
2018-05-13 04:09:55
I'm open any night to having people in for dinner or activities -- let's just keep sharing information 🙂
canadian_aaron
2018-05-17 00:56:16
any update on where dinner will be tonight?
canadian_aaron
2018-05-17 00:58:16
nvm! it appears to be here: 421 Dundas St W, Toronto, ON M5T 2W4
canadian_aaron
2018-05-17 00:59:38
Dim Sum King
itsmisscs
22:05:43
Sounds great!
itsmisscs
22:05:51
16th works for me
canadian_aaron
22:22:37
Can I come? XD
2018-05-11
2018-05-13
patcon
04:09:16
yeah! 16th works for me too!
patcon
04:09:55
I'm open any night to having people in for dinner or activities -- let's just keep sharing information 🙂
patcon
04:13:09
also, the timing is a *20 minute timeslot* before work time. you can use it all to speak, but presenters often use 10-15, and leave the rest for questions 🙂
ttcat
20:23:50
Who's in Toronto? I just arrived and who will in charge to check-in and what time?
itsmisscs
2018-05-13 21:50:51
@patcon and @lizbarry
itsmisscs
21:50:51
@patcon and @lizbarry
ttcat
22:12:58
Hey everyone, I checked-in by myself already. Waiting for you guys:)
patcon
2018-05-14 01:26:45
Hey @ttcat! We realized you shouldn't wait on us today, as we've got some errands and to-dos and coworking sessions before we're good to meet up :) we'll keep you posted of any plans though
WhatsApp <tel:347-559-7622|347-559-7622>
WhatsApp <tel:347-559-7622|347-559-7622>
ttcat
2018-05-14 01:29:35
Oh! So you’re not coming today at all?
ttcat
2018-05-14 02:14:42
I have no idea how we distribute the room and would you stay here or not? Total amount of people is 6 or 7?
ttcat
2018-05-14 02:15:07
It’s too small for 7 people, I might need to find another place to stay
ttcat
2018-05-14 02:16:19
And I also like to talk about the workshop for better understanding what I should prepare
ttcat
2018-05-14 03:15:15
And I think I’m about getting a cold now. ill 🤢
patcon
2018-05-14 04:13:51
oh! we are definitely coming! Just need the day to get some other things done, but will be there later tonight!
lizbarry
2018-05-14 04:13:56
Hi TTCat!
patcon
2018-05-14 04:13:59
this is the doc for planning rooms:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZS2LsHt4YMWu4WeL4gv2NRH9PsYgCZ7Sr16vl8KPg/edit#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZS2LsHt4YMWu4WeL4gv2NRH9PsYgCZ7Sr16vl8KPg/edit#gid=0
lizbarry
2018-05-14 04:15:08
We are also excited to plan the workshop 🙂
patcon
2018-05-14 04:15:56
- 2 OCF ppl need private room each
- liz+patcon in private room together
- 2 OCF people sharing a room
- @itsmisscs sharing/willing to be on couch
- liz+patcon in private room together
- 2 OCF people sharing a room
- @itsmisscs sharing/willing to be on couch
ttcat
2018-05-14 04:17:42
It will be better that you come and we can discuss. Because there's only 3 rooms and one sofa. :)
lizbarry
2018-05-14 04:18:53
ah, the listing says 4 rooms....+ a sofa bed?
patcon
2018-05-14 04:20:41
hm. yes, that's confusing, as the first line of description says "Charming 4 bedroom home available for short and long-term rental in trendy Roncesvalles village"..!
patcon
2018-05-14 04:23:00
we're walking over now -- maybe 15 minutes!
ttcat
2018-05-14 04:23:46
Ok!!
ttcat
22:13:41
@patcon @lizbarry
patcon
23:10:56
perrrrfect. We will be coming around maybe 1pm! Will confirm
2018-05-14
patcon
01:26:45
Hey @ttcat! We realized you shouldn't wait on us today, as we've got some errands and to-dos and coworking sessions before we're good to meet up :) we'll keep you posted of any plans though
WhatsApp <tel:347-559-7622|347-559-7622>
WhatsApp <tel:347-559-7622|347-559-7622>
ttcat
01:29:35
Oh! So you’re not coming today at all?
ttcat
02:14:42
I have no idea how we distribute the room and would you stay here or not? Total amount of people is 6 or 7?
ttcat
02:15:07
It’s too small for 7 people, I might need to find another place to stay
ttcat
02:16:19
And I also like to talk about the workshop for better understanding what I should prepare
ttcat
03:15:15
And I think I’m about getting a cold now. ill 🤢
patcon
04:13:51
oh! we are definitely coming! Just need the day to get some other things done, but will be there later tonight!
lizbarry
04:13:56
Hi TTCat!
patcon
04:13:59
this is the doc for planning rooms:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZS2LsHt4YMWu4WeL4gv2NRH9PsYgCZ7Sr16vl8KPg/edit#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZS2LsHt4YMWu4WeL4gv2NRH9PsYgCZ7Sr16vl8KPg/edit#gid=0
lizbarry
04:15:08
We are also excited to plan the workshop 🙂
patcon
04:15:56
- 2 OCF ppl need private room each
- liz+patcon in private room together
- 2 OCF people sharing a room
- @itsmisscs sharing/willing to be on couch
- liz+patcon in private room together
- 2 OCF people sharing a room
- @itsmisscs sharing/willing to be on couch
ttcat
04:17:42
It will be better that you come and we can discuss. Because there's only 3 rooms and one sofa. :)
lizbarry
04:18:53
ah, the listing says 4 rooms....+ a sofa bed?
patcon
04:20:41
hm. yes, that's confusing, as the first line of description says "Charming 4 bedroom home available for short and long-term rental in trendy Roncesvalles village"..!
patcon
04:23:00
we're walking over now -- maybe 15 minutes!
ttcat
04:23:46
Ok!!
2018-05-15
lizbarry
01:15:50
Our lovely house is up and running! Fully stocked fridge, an entire ham, lentil soup bubbling on the stove. I've started a new tab for food costs in our same Accommodation spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZS2LsHt4YMWu4WeL4gv2NRH9PsYgCZ7Sr16vl8KPg/edit#gid=2110441809
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lizbarry
02:17:39
Here's the recording of what Darshana CS and I did at School of Data in NYC in March: we could consider modifying this for use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8RzCZthfxY
lizbarry
02:23:19
Here's the slidedeck: https://www.icloud.com/keynote/0yoUX84PGWangjzae8dJMRfTQ#OpenData2018_
itsmisscs
02:38:55
A place to collect notes/todo/needs for the update for RightsCon https://hackmd.io/pLBliKwvSpK7nCz0pvVNTQ
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lizbarry
02:46:15
ok i'm opening a video link here: https://meet.jit.si/vnetwork
itsmisscs
02:53:25
New copy of the slide deck: https://www.icloud.com/keynote/0RT341Ol_ErO2HiJGxf5A4U-g#RightsCon_2018
lizbarry
02:53:28
great!!!
lizbarry
03:25:19
adding @patcon's name to slidedeck
lizbarry
03:25:41
updating the email address to be `nobodies@g0v.network`
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 03:31:05
currently forwards to ```ebarry@gmail.com, patrick.c.connolly@gmail.com, darshana.narayanan@gmail.com, devinbalkind@gmail.com, cs@compositescollective.com```
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 03:31:17
everyone has ability to add more names to that list
itsmisscs
03:31:05
currently forwards to ```ebarry@gmail.com, patrick.c.connolly@gmail.com, darshana.narayanan@gmail.com, devinbalkind@gmail.com, cs@compositescollective.com```
itsmisscs
03:31:17
everyone has ability to add more names to that list
lizbarry
03:32:44
@darshana am i imagining that we had a run sheet for NYC School of Data back in March when we estimated times during the hour?
lizbarry
03:53:33
OMG YES! Thank you @darshana!!!!
lizbarry
03:54:55
@patcon @itsmisscs scroll down in the hackpad link @darshana just provided to see our time estimates for the hour we had for running this at SoD *(line 51!)*. Note: we did not update this post-event with real times, but from what i remember we tracked pretty close to this. @darshana do you remember how closely we tracked to our estimated times?
lizbarry
03:59:29
*FYI starting a thread to consider Hackpad* as our "core workshop notetaking and wayfinding to other tools" tool
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:00:56
apparently the core maintainers have stopped maintaining
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:01:32
which in the g0v world, as we're just learning from @ttcat, is a sign to leave a particular platform
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:01:45
so hackpad.tw might not exist in the medium to long term
patcon
2018-05-15 04:15:40
they're all moving to hackmd, it seems
patcon
2018-05-15 04:16:22
also, they confirmed what i think others may have realized (but i wasn't sure of!): the email notifcation functions of hackpad (which were a main draw) don't work on hackpad.tw
lizbarry
04:00:56
apparently the core maintainers have stopped maintaining
patcon
04:01:19
forgot to suggest in call, but since this is a recurring format, maybe we could start thinking on how to do evaluations to help improve as we go!
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itsmisscs
2018-05-15 04:01:54
Polis?
patcon
2018-05-15 04:01:59
typeform has a really user-friendly interface, but open to other suggestions?
itsmisscs
2018-05-15 04:02:07
I like this idea a lot overall 🙂
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:02:21
me too! yay eval!
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:02:42
i have a standard 5 set of questions form the "Listen For Good" team
patcon
2018-05-15 04:02:53
yeah, maybe we could figure out good questions and then best tool to get that? (i'm down for polis, but havne't done much eval to know what's best!)
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:03:01
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:03:51
the questions strike everyone as a bit odd, but i've found they are foundational
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:04:33
the "recommender" part is derived from a lot of deep and well-funded "what does it take to create a returning customer" work from the business sector
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:05:59
>L4G is focused on applying a semi-standard survey instrument, which includes using the Net Promoter System (NPS®) employed widely in customer feedback circles, to the nonprofit beneficiary context
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:07:25
with the addition of a couple of demographic questions, a lot of analysis can be done on a very small # of questions asked. Example: https://publiclab.org/notes/liz/04-24-2018/evaluation-listen4good-round-two-results
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:10:26
just realized about platform, that i used Survey Monkey which has a built in "NPS score generator", which another platform might not have
lizbarry
2018-05-15 04:15:44
The backend of Survey Monkey allows you to filter responses based on a set of responses to other questions. For instance, how verious self-identified demographic clusters answered the "do members of the community treat you with respect" question.
patcon
2018-05-15 04:19:18
i like surveymonkey or typeform, but i'm also trying to think hard on how to use pol.is well...!
lizbarry
04:01:32
which in the g0v world, as we're just learning from @ttcat, is a sign to leave a particular platform
lizbarry
04:01:45
so hackpad.tw might not exist in the medium to long term
itsmisscs
04:01:54
Polis?
patcon
04:01:59
typeform has a really user-friendly interface, but open to other suggestions?
itsmisscs
04:02:07
I like this idea a lot overall 🙂
lizbarry
04:02:21
me too! yay eval!
lizbarry
04:02:42
i have a standard 5 set of questions form the "Listen For Good" team
patcon
04:02:53
yeah, maybe we could figure out good questions and then best tool to get that? (i'm down for polis, but havne't done much eval to know what's best!)
lizbarry
04:03:01
lizbarry
04:03:51
the questions strike everyone as a bit odd, but i've found they are foundational
lizbarry
04:04:33
the "recommender" part is derived from a lot of deep and well-funded "what does it take to create a returning customer" work from the business sector
lizbarry
04:05:59
>L4G is focused on applying a semi-standard survey instrument, which includes using the Net Promoter System (NPS®) employed widely in customer feedback circles, to the nonprofit beneficiary context
lizbarry
04:07:25
with the addition of a couple of demographic questions, a lot of analysis can be done on a very small # of questions asked. Example: https://publiclab.org/notes/liz/04-24-2018/evaluation-listen4good-round-two-results
lizbarry
04:10:26
just realized about platform, that i used Survey Monkey which has a built in "NPS score generator", which another platform might not have
patcon
04:15:40
they're all moving to hackmd, it seems
lizbarry
04:15:44
The backend of Survey Monkey allows you to filter responses based on a set of responses to other questions. For instance, how verious self-identified demographic clusters answered the "do members of the community treat you with respect" question.
patcon
04:16:22
also, they confirmed what i think others may have realized (but i wasn't sure of!): the email notifcation functions of hackpad (which were a main draw) don't work on hackpad.tw
2018-05-16
lizbarry
05:28:00
I'll be taking another pass through our intro workshop tonight at Civic Tech Toronto Hacknight, anyone going to be online?
lizbarry
21:58:01
hi folks! at 10:30 i'm going to "Effective 21st C organizing" - anyone else going?
lizbarry
21:58:22
also, THREAD: can everyone share when the sessions they are giving are?
lizbarry
2018-05-16 21:58:58
"mock vTaiwan" TTCat, CS, Patcon and i -- Friday at 2:30PM - 3:45PM
lizbarry
21:58:58
"mock vTaiwan" TTCat, CS, Patcon and i -- Friday at 2:30PM - 3:45PM
ttcat
21:59:23
rightscon2018.sched.com
Check out what Wu, Min Hsuan (ttcat) will be attending at RightsCon Toronto 2018
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ttcat
22:25:19
hi all
ttcat
22:25:23
it’s our share note
ttcat
22:25:31
welcome to join
ttcat
22:30:34
@itsmisscs @lizbarry @patcon
itsmisscs
22:30:43
thanks @ttcat!
2018-05-17
canadian_aaron
00:56:16
any update on where dinner will be tonight?
canadian_aaron
00:58:16
nvm! it appears to be here: 421 Dundas St W, Toronto, ON M5T 2W4
canadian_aaron
00:59:38
Dim Sum King
2018-05-18
lizbarry
05:49:44
i picked up @ttcat's edits on the RightsCon workshop deck to replace "civil society" on slide 7 & 8 with "community"
lizbarry
07:21:47
itsmisscs
23:18:12
Login: `hi@talkto.nyc` and `MEAthe`
2018-05-19
dzn
00:11:36
good luck everyone!!! 🙂
mrorz
03:09:51
@mrorz has joined the channel
dzn
03:40:00
@ttcat nice. That is some impressive participation. all at rightscon??
@null
03:50:51
I have an extra ticket for Yanis Varoufakis tonight at 7:00, Toronto reference library. DM if interested. I leave about 6.