#twc-g0v-en
2018-10-08
patcon
22:05:04
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Someone (across chat bridge)
22:06:23
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patcon
22:07:06
testing translation to mandarin from #twc-g0v-en
patcon
22:09:26
this is a message fro #twc-g0v-en translated into mandarin
yitzu
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2018-10-11
patcon
14:27:04
testing
shuyang
14:32:38
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shuyang
14:32:55
mom, i am here
chihao
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chihao
14:39:12
Live long and prosper 🖖
patcon
14:39:59
haha okay, you're right -- i can't fix that 🙂
chihao
14:40:36
emoji in `:emoji_name:` syntax gets “translated” into `:emoji_name:` (full width colon in Chinese)
patcon
14:40:39
I'll need to write some regex for emoji patterns, so that Google doesn't try to translate those 🙂
chihao
14:41:03
Totally!
patcon
14:42:45
the best part is that this can actually bridge to slack channels on other slack teams as well! that's actually it's main feature, and translation is just the hack that I'm contributing upstream
chihao
14:43:07
Nice. What is this plugin?
patcon
14:43:39
So we can connect this channel to the `colab` slack team in Oakland, and they will have it in english on their slack, without having to sign up for `g0v-tw` slack (if they don't want to)
patcon
14:43:55
GitHub
bridge between mattermost, IRC, gitter, xmpp, slack, discord, telegram, rocket.chat,hipchat (via xmpp), steam, twitch, ssh-chat, zulip and matrix with REST API (mattermost not required!) - 42wim/ma...
chihao
14:44:26
That sounds good to me 🙂 Too many slack workspaces is kind of annoying.
chihao
14:44:58
And Google en → zh translation is still hilarious lol
patcon
14:49:27
haha yeah, it's pretty bad, but better than nothing 🙂 enough to know whether we should jump into conversations and ask better questions, at least.
And now the english-speakers aren't Google Translating on their own. They all know that they all know that they all know what Mandarin-speakers are saying (sort of)
And now the english-speakers aren't Google Translating on their own. They all know that they all know that they all know what Mandarin-speakers are saying (sort of)
chihao
15:04:09
Better than nothing +1
patcon
15:07:21
ok, so now we should be able to see which channel the translated message is coming from. I'm open to suggestions on improvement 🙂
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patcon
15:15:40
You can also edit messages, and the translation gets updated too. (The software "forgets" about prior messages between restarts, and so it might only work on a very fresh message, as I've been adding features and restarting often.)
(Feel free to join #i18n-test-tw if you don't want to make this channel too noisy.)
(Feel free to join #i18n-test-tw if you don't want to make this channel too noisy.)
pm5
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pm5
15:26:12
I got it. It's translating Slack literally 😂
@null
15:26:45
"Too much slack work space is a bit annoying": rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:🤣🤣 [translated by
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fiorella
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alvinsj
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2018-10-12
etienne
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2018-10-13
Felipe
01:36:19
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Felipe
01:36:49
ah ok thanks!
Danny
03:27:42
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Felipe
06:27:24
traduce solo ingles? test test
viktor
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patcon
11:24:37
@phiven oh hey, we could set up #twc-g0v-es...! Do yo think it would be appreciated by anyone?
Felipe
2018-10-16 02:42:06
nah we’re good
devin
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2018-10-14
Felipe
07:16:45
Nah i was just seeing if it would handle two languages in a single sentence
patcon
11:05:06
👍
patcon
11:05:49
here's that tech workers coop mailing list that I've been a member of:
https://npogroups.org/lists/info/tech-coop
I'm not part of any others, so not sure it it's considered to be a good one :slightly_smiling_face:
https://npogroups.org/lists/info/tech-coop
I'm not part of any others, so not sure it it's considered to be a good one :slightly_smiling_face:
patcon
11:06:17
anyone have any suggestions for any mailing lists worth replacing it with?
patcon
2018-10-14 11:06:39
seems it's one of the main ones: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops#mailinglists
chihao
2018-10-14 12:27:12
Great resource! Many thanks!
Felipe
2018-10-15 13:57:37
Yeah this is awesome
Danny
2018-10-16 00:29:21
Good news: in about two hours the group that started www.techworker.coop is meeting to overhaul that old, outdated site
Danny
2018-10-16 00:30:14
But yes, it is the main email list for now for these purposes
chihao
2018-10-16 11:26:18
@stationaery ++!
patcon
2018-10-16 12:28:54
cc @devin
devin
2018-10-16 17:19:03
Yay for coops discussing cooperation!
Felipe
2018-10-16 23:43:39
This thread is brought to you by the letter coop
patcon
2018-10-17 01:15:24
Cooooooo.... pppppp. Coooo. pppp. Cooo-p...
chihao
2018-10-17 11:39:04
lol
patcon
11:06:39
seems it's one of the main ones: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops#mailinglists
GitHub
A list of tech coops and resources concerning tech coops and worker owned cooperatives in general. - hng/tech-coops
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chihao
12:27:12
Great resource! Many thanks!
ellen
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2018-10-15
Felipe
13:57:37
Yeah this is awesome
2018-10-16
Danny
00:29:21
Good news: in about two hours the group that started www.techworker.coop is meeting to overhaul that old, outdated site
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Danny
00:30:14
But yes, it is the main email list for now for these purposes
Danny
05:25:22
^ the TWC newsletter, featuring a session at Stanford about Chinese workers on strike
chihao
11:26:18
@stationaery ++!
patcon
12:28:54
cc @devin
devin
17:19:03
Yay for coops discussing cooperation!
Felipe
23:43:39
This thread is brought to you by the letter coop
2018-10-17
thebestsophist
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patcon
01:15:24
Cooooooo.... pppppp. Coooo. pppp. Cooo-p...
Felipe
07:17:48
I was looking into getting this slack on a paid membership for free
Felipe
07:18:23
I found out that in order to do so, we need to find a current employee at slack to give us their one free paid-tier workspace
Felipe
07:18:43
each employee gets one free workspace when they get hired
chihao
11:06:02
@phiven ++! Didn’t know that trick 😉
chihao
11:07:45
By the way `++` is a g0v speak that’s like a `like` 😛 g0v speak: https://g0v.hackpad.tw/ep/pad/static/MI7fGNIdygb
Danny
2018-10-17 14:07:05
It’d be funny if it was “+0” instead of the usual +1
chihao
11:39:04
lol
Danny
14:07:05
It’d be funny if it was “+0” instead of the usual +1
2018-10-19
mlncn
10:21:42
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Felipe
14:05:30
hey g0v team can you give us an idea of how your jothon/hackathons are structured? are they multi-day events? how do they work?
Felipe
14:07:08
Techqueria has done occasional 3-day hackathons and also long-term open-source project
Felipe
14:07:58
More than half of us are developers, so as an organizer I am interested in how you make the event experience a positive one for developers
Felipe
14:08:17
many times the 3-day hackathon format is difficult for people with families and jobs
mlncn
2018-10-19 14:17:36
this isn't an answer to much of anything you asked, but step 1: Provide child care!
Felipe
2018-10-19 14:53:58
Yeah of course :D
Felipe
2018-10-19 14:54:04
Its still hard
patcon
2018-10-20 11:30:48
@ben612 ++ to child care. And clear policy on transit tokens, and maybe ubers when location is tough? Uber has some interesting family plans and an event coupon code system that can be used
mlncn
14:17:36
this isn't an answer to much of anything you asked, but step 1: Provide child care!
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patcon
14:35:17
@phiven here's what I know: one day event every 8-10 weeks or so. happens way out at academia sinica, bc space in taipei is too hard to find.
patcon
14:36:40
importantly, pitches are recorded and broadcast [individually?], and archived on youtube. people share them, and others seem to watch them even if they didn't attend, so they can know about projects without attending.
patcon
14:37:43
they've automated all the announcement and boilerplate docs/info with a little scripted tool:
https://github.com/g0v/OneButton
https://github.com/g0v/OneButton
GitHub
OneButton is a one-click solution for ipa to finish all hackathon duties at once. - g0v/OneButton
patcon
14:39:16
they have some interesting practices:
- project leads all get red armbands to be recognizable
- one organizer carries a little flag around and does a "tour" of all the projects earyl on, for all the people who haven't found a project yet
- project leads all get red armbands to be recognizable
- one organizer carries a little flag around and does a "tour" of all the projects earyl on, for all the people who haven't found a project yet
Peace
14:42:06
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Felipe
14:53:58
Yeah of course :D
Felipe
14:54:04
Its still hard
2018-10-20
mglee
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mglee
01:55:57
hey all, it took me sometime to find out there is an Eng channel for twc-g0v (reading chinese google translation is a bit painful)
mglee
02:01:11
@phiven
g0v hackathon happens every two month, on Sat. It’s usually a place people come to pitch new ideas, continue old projects, and make new friends. We don’t do multiple days for many reasons but one is about the venue--Academic Sinica provides “free space” for us, but it doesn’t allow us to do overnight. And of course, there will be a lot of preparation work for a multiple-day hackathon.
g0v hackathon happens every two month, on Sat. It’s usually a place people come to pitch new ideas, continue old projects, and make new friends. We don’t do multiple days for many reasons but one is about the venue--Academic Sinica provides “free space” for us, but it doesn’t allow us to do overnight. And of course, there will be a lot of preparation work for a multiple-day hackathon.
mglee
02:05:07
Every hackathon has its hackfoldr and this is a good way to see how hackathon is organized (though it’s mainly in Chinese, sorry!)
https://beta.hackfoldr.org/g0v-hackath26n
For this hackathon, there are also some international guests, so we did a newbie guide slides in English, which might also help. (Note: this hackathon was held at a different place, as part of Civic Tech Fest in Taipei)
slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/17U7UcZ6EDW8XCjILiQC8J0VW5p9R10hZU4s1kUrR18Q/edit#slide=id.g14f843e915_0_0
https://beta.hackfoldr.org/g0v-hackath26n
For this hackathon, there are also some international guests, so we did a newbie guide slides in English, which might also help. (Note: this hackathon was held at a different place, as part of Civic Tech Fest in Taipei)
slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/17U7UcZ6EDW8XCjILiQC8J0VW5p9R10hZU4s1kUrR18Q/edit#slide=id.g14f843e915_0_0
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mglee
02:08:41
You can find all recordings on g0v’s youtube. Below is also from the 26th hackathon. It has Eng live transcript alongside all pitches and talks.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdwQWxpS513ATadkWo9Gw6UrjI13ej-pm
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdwQWxpS513ATadkWo9Gw6UrjI13ej-pm
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patcon
11:30:48
@ben612 ++ to child care. And clear policy on transit tokens, and maybe ubers when location is tough? Uber has some interesting family plans and an event coupon code system that can be used
2018-10-23
Danny
00:45:09
The latest TWC newsletter ^_^ https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?e=d613f271d3&u=194e57c175176cfd13007a197&id=9d479b3cb5
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2018-10-27
Danny
14:24:11
One week longer, one week stronger https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?e=1056eea6f0&u=194e57c175176cfd13007a197&id=5db7945fe7
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