#tfd-fellows
2018-11-02
ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff
12:20:55
@patcon Would you like to meet next Friday morning and let’s talk what you need and what we can help next?
patcon
2018-11-02 12:34:58
Sure! Let's do that. How about before the jothon meeting timeslot?
ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff
2018-11-02 13:23:38
I can’t. I have meeting every Fri 12:30
patcon
2018-11-02 14:34:26
ok, morning is doable! would it be possible for me to stay and work until the jothon meeting if we met in the morning?
ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff
2018-11-02 14:45:27
sure
patcon
2018-11-02 14:50:56
it sounds like you have a tighter schedule that day, so please do suggest a time (My preference is to meet just before your 12:30 meeting, but if you need time for lunch, maybe before that?)
ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff
2018-11-02 15:54:03
It’s ok, let’s meet at 10:30 4th floor
patcon
12:34:58
Sure! Let's do that. How about before the jothon meeting timeslot?
ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff
13:23:38
I can’t. I have meeting every Fri 12:30
patcon
14:34:26
ok, morning is doable! would it be possible for me to stay and work until the jothon meeting if we met in the morning?
ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff
14:45:27
sure
patcon
14:50:56
it sounds like you have a tighter schedule that day, so please do suggest a time (My preference is to meet just before your 12:30 meeting, but if you need time for lunch, maybe before that?)
ttcat_OCF_jothon_staff
15:54:03
It’s ok, let’s meet at 10:30 4th floor
2018-11-03
ttcat
11:27:17
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2018-11-23
mrorz
15:20:05
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bil
15:20:09
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mrorz
15:20:12
cool
patcon
15:20:49
re: sunday joint interview
patcon
2018-11-23 15:20:58
cc @bil @mrorz
patcon
2018-11-23 15:22:04
@mrorz great suggestion on joint interview on Sunday night! I'm just out with my partner today (who's visiting), and she already wants me off computer, but i will jump back here later tonight or tomorrow 🙂 I can just meet and join you where you are, but happy to take suggestions of place and time 🙂
patcon
2018-11-23 15:22:49
historically, these conversations have been at least an hour each, but could go longer if you have the ability to be generous with your own time (no pressure though!)
patcon
2018-11-23 15:23:51
I'll jump back on later tonight to coord, but pls do feel free to suggest a location. I can also explain format and commit to sharing questions in advance 😄
which is preferable? a cafeteria or a restaurant for supper?
mrorz
2018-11-23 15:51:34
\meowvelous/
mrorz
2018-11-23 15:52:31
it’s both a cafeteria and restaurant, perfect.
patcon
2018-11-24 11:27:06
Meowvelous sounds awesome! And @bil, you mentioned 5pm tomorrow, which works for me :) could go to 7 or 8, but that's adaptable! (Happy to move to a separate table and do two shorter and separate interviews, if that helps.)
patcon
2018-11-24 11:29:04
One thing though: if its ok with the both of you, I'd love to record. No pressure though. I've been experimenting with the idea of something I've been calling "humane transparency" or using "a default consent". So for example, we could agree "fully recorded, CC-BY licence" as default. But as we talk, you are welcome to adjust how "on-the-record" you'd like to be, and decide if something you have said or are about to say is something you are comfortable with being 100% transparent about. This is about offering ways to be transparent, while not assuming that everything we think and feel is intended for fully public experience. I hope that makes sense!
If anything about that is unclear, im happy to discuss before we start the conversation on sunday :)
If anything about that is unclear, im happy to discuss before we start the conversation on sunday :)
patcon
2018-11-24 11:29:10
Also, will meowvelous have an atmosphere quiet enough to record and have an easily heard conversation?
patcon
2018-11-24 11:30:02
And again, thanks so so much for being willing to meet up @bil and @mrorz 😊 I know that things are busy these days!
patcon
2018-11-24 11:37:03
Also, meowvelous opens at 5:30pm, so we'll have to meet then (hopefully spending this much time there is alright? I'll have to leave that to you two to decide :slightly_smiling_face:)
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:01:20
@patcon sorry that we found the message didn't get though, probably networking issue.
We think 5:30pm @ meowvelous would be great, so let's meet then!
We think 5:30pm @ meowvelous would be great, so let's meet then!
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:05:55
Oops
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:06:21
I did not see the requirement of doing audio recording.
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:06:58
Meowvelous is very popular, so it's probably not suitable for audio recording
patcon
2018-11-25 14:09:53
No worries!
And hmmm... Any alternative place suggestions nearby? Audio recording let's me not worry too much about note-taking (and I'd prefer to focus on convo and not notes!)
And hmmm... Any alternative place suggestions nearby? Audio recording let's me not worry too much about note-taking (and I'd prefer to focus on convo and not notes!)
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:14:13
We are spending the afternoon at NewSquare at the opposite side of exit 2 of MRT Jiennan road station
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:15:40
We are free after 17:00 here, there are some tables at the basement. Maybe we can do interview there?
patcon
2018-11-25 14:23:02
Ah ok!I have another interview until 5:15pm near meowvelous, so it was already a little tight to travel. But if you're there for awhile, I could prob get to NewSquare for 6pm? Would that work for you both?
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:24:06
Hmm I think we can go find you instead?
patcon
2018-11-25 14:24:33
In the end, having time is more important than audio quality :)
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:24:33
If it*s a public space near meowvelous
patcon
2018-11-25 14:24:51
Yeah! I'm open to ideas near meowvelous. We could even do Starbucks :)
patcon
2018-11-25 14:25:50
BUT I don't mind coming up to jiennan! I just would feel bad if we only got an hour to talk and had to cram it in :)
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:27:14
Oh I mean if you are already in an open space then it may be better itlf we go find you instead
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:28:02
We cannot come up with a place for now
patcon
2018-11-25 14:41:58
How about this: let's just stay with meowvelous, and if its noisy, we could sit outside in the little park next store, or song-ji park down the street :)
patcon
2018-11-25 14:43:32
If that sounds good, does 5pm meeting time still work out for that, or should it be a bit later at 5:30pm or 6?
mrorz
2018-11-25 14:45:40
Got it , it works for us :)
5:30 at meowvelous works for us
5:30 at meowvelous works for us
patcon
2018-11-25 15:14:10
👍 yay!
patcon
2018-11-25 17:20:23
My last interview went a tiiiiny bit late, but biking over real quick! Thinking 15 min. See you soon!
patcon
2018-11-25 17:38:12
Locking bike!
patcon
2018-11-25 17:44:30
Just got here! Seems like you may have gotten caught on MRT, but I'll get a table :)
patcon
15:20:58
cc @bil @mrorz
patcon
15:22:04
@mrorz great suggestion on joint interview on Sunday night! I'm just out with my partner today (who's visiting), and she already wants me off computer, but i will jump back here later tonight or tomorrow 🙂 I can just meet and join you where you are, but happy to take suggestions of place and time 🙂
patcon
15:22:49
historically, these conversations have been at least an hour each, but could go longer if you have the ability to be generous with your own time (no pressure though!)
patcon
15:23:51
I'll jump back on later tonight to coord, but pls do feel free to suggest a location. I can also explain format and commit to sharing questions in advance 😄
bil
15:41:03
which is preferable? a cafeteria or a restaurant for supper?
mrorz
15:51:34
\meowvelous/
2018-11-24
patcon
11:27:06
Meowvelous sounds awesome! And @bil, you mentioned 5pm tomorrow, which works for me :) could go to 7 or 8, but that's adaptable! (Happy to move to a separate table and do two shorter and separate interviews, if that helps.)
patcon
11:29:04
One thing though: if its ok with the both of you, I'd love to record. No pressure though. I've been experimenting with the idea of something I've been calling "humane transparency" or using "a default consent". So for example, we could agree "fully recorded, CC-BY licence" as default. But as we talk, you are welcome to adjust how "on-the-record" you'd like to be, and decide if something you have said or are about to say is something you are comfortable with being 100% transparent about. This is about offering ways to be transparent, while not assuming that everything we think and feel is intended for fully public experience. I hope that makes sense!
If anything about that is unclear, im happy to discuss before we start the conversation on sunday :)
If anything about that is unclear, im happy to discuss before we start the conversation on sunday :)
patcon
11:29:10
Also, will meowvelous have an atmosphere quiet enough to record and have an easily heard conversation?
patcon
11:30:02
And again, thanks so so much for being willing to meet up @bil and @mrorz 😊 I know that things are busy these days!
patcon
11:37:03
Also, meowvelous opens at 5:30pm, so we'll have to meet then (hopefully spending this much time there is alright? I'll have to leave that to you two to decide :slightly_smiling_face:)
2018-11-25
mrorz
14:01:20
@patcon sorry that we found the message didn't get though, probably networking issue.
We think 5:30pm @ meowvelous would be great, so let's meet then!
We think 5:30pm @ meowvelous would be great, so let's meet then!
mrorz
14:05:55
Oops
mrorz
14:06:21
I did not see the requirement of doing audio recording.
mrorz
14:06:58
Meowvelous is very popular, so it's probably not suitable for audio recording
patcon
14:09:53
No worries!
And hmmm... Any alternative place suggestions nearby? Audio recording let's me not worry too much about note-taking (and I'd prefer to focus on convo and not notes!)
And hmmm... Any alternative place suggestions nearby? Audio recording let's me not worry too much about note-taking (and I'd prefer to focus on convo and not notes!)
mrorz
14:14:13
We are spending the afternoon at NewSquare at the opposite side of exit 2 of MRT Jiennan road station
mrorz
14:15:40
We are free after 17:00 here, there are some tables at the basement. Maybe we can do interview there?
patcon
14:23:02
Ah ok!I have another interview until 5:15pm near meowvelous, so it was already a little tight to travel. But if you're there for awhile, I could prob get to NewSquare for 6pm? Would that work for you both?
mrorz
14:24:06
Hmm I think we can go find you instead?
patcon
14:24:33
In the end, having time is more important than audio quality :)
mrorz
14:24:33
If it*s a public space near meowvelous
patcon
14:24:51
Yeah! I'm open to ideas near meowvelous. We could even do Starbucks :)
patcon
14:25:50
BUT I don't mind coming up to jiennan! I just would feel bad if we only got an hour to talk and had to cram it in :)
mrorz
14:27:14
Oh I mean if you are already in an open space then it may be better itlf we go find you instead
mrorz
14:28:02
We cannot come up with a place for now
patcon
14:41:58
How about this: let's just stay with meowvelous, and if its noisy, we could sit outside in the little park next store, or song-ji park down the street :)
patcon
14:43:32
If that sounds good, does 5pm meeting time still work out for that, or should it be a bit later at 5:30pm or 6?
mrorz
14:45:40
Got it , it works for us :)
5:30 at meowvelous works for us
5:30 at meowvelous works for us
patcon
15:14:10
👍 yay!
patcon
17:20:23
My last interview went a tiiiiny bit late, but biking over real quick! Thinking 15 min. See you soon!
patcon
17:38:12
Locking bike!
patcon
17:44:30
Just got here! Seems like you may have gotten caught on MRT, but I'll get a table :)
2018-11-26
patcon
14:13:22
@ttcat971 WIP outline of report: https://dynalist.io/d/6mdJdBPn1emM2VXUSl8Ldu34