#twa11y
2022-02-19
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```大家好
hi everyone
我是 K
i'm K
我今天開始新的project
we're starting a new project today
叫 accessibility squad
called "accessibility squad"
可以換名字lol
we can change the name lol
Anyway 要是你是新的工程師，還是不是工程師的人，這是對你很好的project
anywya if you're a new engineer, or not an engineer, this is a good project for you
台灣的網頁的無障礙不錯，
taiwan's website accessibility actually isn't too bad
但是有一些很容易處理的問題
but there's a few critical issues that could easily be fixed
我可以自己處理，但是我沒有使用權
i can fix them, but I don't have access to fix them
比如說：
an example of an issue:
(Show hospital booking example)
要是我知道有些人在呢個醫院，
我可以告訴他
"我可以幫你處理，不用付錢"
但是我不知道
所以這個project 有三個點
1. 找，列出，無障礙的問題
2. 用列表，找有使用權的人
3. 處理那些問題
我們想幫哪一樣的網頁？
像是。。。
州府 或
醫院 或
NGO
etc
那一些人可以幫我們？
大家， 因為
處理問題不很難，所以新的工程師應該可以
還有我，可以 增加經驗 zeng1jia1jing1yan4
我覺得吧方醫院網站 放在 你的
文件夾 wen2jian4 jia1 上
是很好的計畫
還有， 別人都可以幫我們找不很無障礙的網站
別人都可以幫我們找 有 使用權 的人
雖然我是英文說的人，但請不要怕這個project
我們可以用中文討論
謝謝```
hi everyone
我是 K
i'm K
我今天開始新的project
we're starting a new project today
叫 accessibility squad
called "accessibility squad"
可以換名字lol
we can change the name lol
Anyway 要是你是新的工程師，還是不是工程師的人，這是對你很好的project
anywya if you're a new engineer, or not an engineer, this is a good project for you
台灣的網頁的無障礙不錯，
taiwan's website accessibility actually isn't too bad
但是有一些很容易處理的問題
but there's a few critical issues that could easily be fixed
我可以自己處理，但是我沒有使用權
i can fix them, but I don't have access to fix them
比如說：
an example of an issue:
(Show hospital booking example)
要是我知道有些人在呢個醫院，
我可以告訴他
"我可以幫你處理，不用付錢"
但是我不知道
所以這個project 有三個點
1. 找，列出，無障礙的問題
2. 用列表，找有使用權的人
3. 處理那些問題
我們想幫哪一樣的網頁？
像是。。。
州府 或
醫院 或
NGO
etc
那一些人可以幫我們？
大家， 因為
處理問題不很難，所以新的工程師應該可以
還有我，可以 增加經驗 zeng1jia1jing1yan4
我覺得吧方醫院網站 放在 你的
文件夾 wen2jian4 jia1 上
是很好的計畫
還有， 別人都可以幫我們找不很無障礙的網站
別人都可以幫我們找 有 使用權 的人
雖然我是英文說的人，但請不要怕這個project
我們可以用中文討論
謝謝```
大家好
hi everyone
我是 K
i'm K
我們今天開始新的project
we're starting a new project today
叫 accessibility squad
called "accessibility squad"
可以換名字lol
we can change the name lol
要是你是新的工程師，還是你不是工程師的人，這是對你很好的project
anyway if you're a new engineer, or not an engineer, this is a good project for you
台灣網站的無障礙不錯， wu3zhang4ai4
taiwan's website accessibility actually isn't too bad
但是有一些很 容易 處理 的問題 rong2yi4 chu3li3
but there's a few critical issues that could easily be fixed
我可以自己處理，但是我沒有 使用權 chu3li3 shi3yong4quan2
i can fix them, but I don't have access to fix them
比如說：
an example of an issue:
(Show hospital booking example)
這些問題 讓那個網站 很麻煩用
these issues make the website harder to use
要是 如果 我 認識有些人在呢個醫院， ru3guo3
but if I knew people at this hospital
我可以告訴他們
I could tell them
“我可以幫你處理，不用付錢” chu3li3
I can fix this issue for you, for free
但是我誰都不認識
but I don't know anybody
所以這個project 有三個點
so this project has 3 points
1. 找，列出，無障礙的問題 lie4chu1 wu3zhang4ai4
look for and list accessibility issues
2. 用列表，找有使用權的人 lie4biao3 shi3yong4quan2
use that list to look for people with access to fixing these sites
3. 處理那些問題 chu3li3
Fix the issues
我們想幫哪一樣的網站？
what kind of websites do we want to help fix?
像是。。。
for example...
政府 或 zheng4fu3
government websites
醫院 或
hospitals
NGO
(non-government / non-profit)
etc
那一些人可以幫我們？
what kind of people can help us?
大家， 因為
everyone, because
處理問題不很難，所以新的工程師應該可以 (chu3li3) (ying1gai1)
because the accessibility problems aren't too hard to fix
新的工程師可以 增加經驗 zeng1jia1jing1yan4
this is a good opportunity for new engineers
to get experience
我覺得吧醫院網站 寫在 你的
I think that putting a hospital website on your
文件夾 wen2jian4 jia1 上
portfolio/resume
是很好的計畫
is a good opportunity
還有， 別人都可以幫我們找不很無障礙的網站 wu3zhang4ai4
also, anybody can help us find
inaccessible websites
別人都可以幫我們找 有 使用權 的人 shi3yong4quan2
anybody can help us find people with access
to these websites
雖然 我們說英文 , 請不要怕這個project
although we're english speakers,
please don't fear joining this project
我們可以用中文討論
we can use mandarin to discuss things
謝謝
thank you!
hi everyone
我是 K
i'm K
我們今天開始新的project
we're starting a new project today
叫 accessibility squad
called "accessibility squad"
可以換名字lol
we can change the name lol
要是你是新的工程師，還是你不是工程師的人，這是對你很好的project
anyway if you're a new engineer, or not an engineer, this is a good project for you
台灣網站的無障礙不錯， wu3zhang4ai4
taiwan's website accessibility actually isn't too bad
但是有一些很 容易 處理 的問題 rong2yi4 chu3li3
but there's a few critical issues that could easily be fixed
我可以自己處理，但是我沒有 使用權 chu3li3 shi3yong4quan2
i can fix them, but I don't have access to fix them
比如說：
an example of an issue:
(Show hospital booking example)
這些問題 讓那個網站 很麻煩用
these issues make the website harder to use
要是 如果 我 認識有些人在呢個醫院， ru3guo3
but if I knew people at this hospital
我可以告訴他們
I could tell them
“我可以幫你處理，不用付錢” chu3li3
I can fix this issue for you, for free
但是我誰都不認識
but I don't know anybody
所以這個project 有三個點
so this project has 3 points
1. 找，列出，無障礙的問題 lie4chu1 wu3zhang4ai4
look for and list accessibility issues
2. 用列表，找有使用權的人 lie4biao3 shi3yong4quan2
use that list to look for people with access to fixing these sites
3. 處理那些問題 chu3li3
Fix the issues
我們想幫哪一樣的網站？
what kind of websites do we want to help fix?
像是。。。
for example...
政府 或 zheng4fu3
government websites
醫院 或
hospitals
NGO
(non-government / non-profit)
etc
那一些人可以幫我們？
what kind of people can help us?
大家， 因為
everyone, because
處理問題不很難，所以新的工程師應該可以 (chu3li3) (ying1gai1)
because the accessibility problems aren't too hard to fix
新的工程師可以 增加經驗 zeng1jia1jing1yan4
this is a good opportunity for new engineers
to get experience
我覺得吧醫院網站 寫在 你的
I think that putting a hospital website on your
文件夾 wen2jian4 jia1 上
portfolio/resume
是很好的計畫
is a good opportunity
還有， 別人都可以幫我們找不很無障礙的網站 wu3zhang4ai4
also, anybody can help us find
inaccessible websites
別人都可以幫我們找 有 使用權 的人 shi3yong4quan2
anybody can help us find people with access
to these websites
雖然 我們說英文 , 請不要怕這個project
although we're english speakers,
please don't fear joining this project
我們可以用中文討論
we can use mandarin to discuss things
謝謝
thank you!
hackmd.io 
First task: choosing project management system
First task: choosing project management system
github issues, gitlab, notion
github issues, gitlab, notion
probably github issues
probably github issues
names for github project
names for github project
taiwan-accessibility
taiwan-accessibility
accessibility-tw
accessibility-tw
a11y-tw
a11y-tw
twa11y
twa11y
has renamed the channel from "a11y-squad" to "twa11y"
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YouTube
@patcon based in Canada has been doing a11y stuff lately with Gather itself
He said a fellow co-organizer with CivicTechToronto is running an “Accessibility and Gather” session tomorrow, for folks in the Gather Enthusiasts discord server (hoping some GatherTown staff will attend)
He said a fellow co-organizer with CivicTechToronto is running an “Accessibility and Gather” session tomorrow, for folks in the Gather Enthusiasts discord server (hoping some GatherTown staff will attend)
@patcon based in Canada has been doing a11y stuff lately with Gather itself
He said a fellow co-organizer with CivicTechToronto is running an “Accessibility and Gather” session tomorrow, for folks in the Gather Enthusiasts discord server (hoping some GatherTown staff will attend)
He said a fellow co-organizer with CivicTechToronto is running an “Accessibility and Gather” session tomorrow, for folks in the Gather Enthusiasts discord server (hoping some GatherTown staff will attend)
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Hey Pat!
Hey Pat!
Gather.Town Enthusiast Discord: https://discord.gg/nKDUZ2sp `#accessibility-and-digital-inclusion` :slightly_smiling_face:
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Gather.Town Enthusiast Discord: https://discord.gg/nKDUZ2sp `#accessibility-and-digital-inclusion` :slightly_smiling_face:
heh i just got here, but caleb juuuuuust disappeared as i walked in the room
heh i just got here, but caleb juuuuuust disappeared as i walked in the room
We are connecting
We are connecting
@patcon we are coming
@patcon we are coming
calling on slack @patcon
calling on slack @patcon
says youre in do not distrub
says youre in do not distrub
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@patcon
Hi~ I'm Teemo,
Hi~ I'm Teemo,
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Hi! This is Terry~
Hi! This is Terry~
My notes on the meeting:
1. A workshop for hospital ITs on accessibility @m.33.elliot @teemocogs
2. Google Form to report accessibility issues. Two basic to check: texts in image (especially on buttons) and pop-ups (sometimes users can't even select or zoom in to read)
3. Collect issues in accessibility of main hospital websites
1. A workshop for hospital ITs on accessibility @m.33.elliot @teemocogs
2. Google Form to report accessibility issues. Two basic to check: texts in image (especially on buttons) and pop-ups (sometimes users can't even select or zoom in to read)
3. Collect issues in accessibility of main hospital websites
My notes on the meeting:
1. A workshop for hospital ITs on accessibility @m.33.elliot @teemocogs in 2-3 months.
2. Google Form to report accessibility issues. Two basic to check: texts in image (especially on buttons) and pop-ups (sometimes users can't even select or zoom in to read)
3. Collect issues in accessibility of main hospital websites
1. A workshop for hospital ITs on accessibility @m.33.elliot @teemocogs in 2-3 months.
2. Google Form to report accessibility issues. Two basic to check: texts in image (especially on buttons) and pop-ups (sometimes users can't even select or zoom in to read)
3. Collect issues in accessibility of main hospital websites
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Our outgoing presentation:
1. new team name: twa11y, "taiwan accessibility" and "taiwan ally"
2. setting up infrastructure for bug reporting
3. setting up infrastructure for contacting hospitals and organizations
4. met with hospital staff to discuss a workshop (gongzuofang),
1. new team name: twa11y, "taiwan accessibility" and "taiwan ally"
2. setting up infrastructure for bug reporting
3. setting up infrastructure for contacting hospitals and organizations
4. met with hospital staff to discuss a workshop (gongzuofang),
Our outgoing presentation:
1. new team name: twa11y, "taiwan accessibility" and "taiwan ally"
2. setting up infrastructure for bug reporting
3. setting up infrastructure for contacting hospitals and organizations
4. met with hospital staff to discuss a workshop (gongzuofang),
1. new team name: twa11y, "taiwan accessibility" and "taiwan ally"
2. setting up infrastructure for bug reporting
3. setting up infrastructure for contacting hospitals and organizations
4. met with hospital staff to discuss a workshop (gongzuofang),
@m.33.elliot
@m.33.elliot
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1xaeub8_Ggglc5n_tZbz54S5EIZDJ8VXLdVlEJ_p3G20/ <--- allows screenshot, requires google login
Public facing form:
Without attachment
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePIsB2FeoPOdNUlXPNE7EOGzgtP5h625BwgLUKOnxR1UqIuA/viewform?usp=sf_link
With attachment (needs Google Sign in)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfhgYdDfsenFYYXiWABxm5e-NNPBAKF2KkH_XzT0OqhLxIF3g/viewform?usp=sf_link
Github Issue Report (needs Github sign in)
https://github.com/twa11y/twa11y/issues/new/choose
Without attachment
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePIsB2FeoPOdNUlXPNE7EOGzgtP5h625BwgLUKOnxR1UqIuA/viewform?usp=sf_link
With attachment (needs Google Sign in)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfhgYdDfsenFYYXiWABxm5e-NNPBAKF2KkH_XzT0OqhLxIF3g/viewform?usp=sf_link
Github Issue Report (needs Github sign in)
https://github.com/twa11y/twa11y/issues/new/choose
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Public facing form:
Without attachment
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePIsB2FeoPOdNUlXPNE7EOGzgtP5h625BwgLUKOnxR1UqIuA/viewform?usp=sf_link
With attachment
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfhgYdDfsenFYYXiWABxm5e-NNPBAKF2KkH_XzT0OqhLxIF3g/viewform?usp=sf_link
Without attachment
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePIsB2FeoPOdNUlXPNE7EOGzgtP5h625BwgLUKOnxR1UqIuA/viewform?usp=sf_link
With attachment
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfhgYdDfsenFYYXiWABxm5e-NNPBAKF2KkH_XzT0OqhLxIF3g/viewform?usp=sf_link
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https://shh.tmu.edu.tw/ website is really good. I can't find any a11y issues.
https://shh.tmu.edu.tw/ 雙和醫院 website is really good. I can't find any a11y issues.
Edit: Their hospital title is text embedded in its logo image.
Edit: Their hospital title is text embedded in its logo image.
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Anyone know if my presentation happened to be recorded in a way that's reviewable?
Anyone know if my presentation happened to be recorded in a way that's reviewable?
2022-02-20
@m.33.elliot You are welcomed. https://youtu.be/afR9MDqlZy4
https://www.cgmh.org.tw/ Chang Gung hospital (長庚醫院)
website is really good too. Only issue is their hospital title is text embedded in its logo image.
website is really good too. Only issue is their hospital title is text embedded in its logo image.
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https://www.cgmh.org.tw/ Chang Gung hospital (長庚醫院)
website is really good too. Only issue is their hospital title is text embedded in its logo image.
website is really good too. Only issue is their hospital title is text embedded in its logo image.
Nice work on the forms @breierthomas they look great, cross link etc, nice
Nice work on the forms @breierthomas they look great, cross link etc, nice
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2022-02-21
Thinking we can use notion for managing contacts
Hi @caleb:
I'd love to leave my contacts on the Notion page. Would you share the notebook link?
I'd love to leave my contacts on the Notion page. Would you share the notebook link?
I actually decided to use github instead, can you DM me and I'll add it? I'm keeping that repo private to protect people's contact details
or you can email me at caleb@calebjay.com
thank you for offering btw 🙂
@caleb I see! Just DMed.
Thinking we can use notion for managing contacts
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Hi @caleb:
I'd love to leave my contacts on the Notion page. Would you share the notebook link?
I'd love to leave my contacts on the Notion page. Would you share the notebook link?
I actually decided to use github instead, can you DM me and I'll add it? I'm keeping that repo private to protect people's contact details
or you can email me at caleb@calebjay.com
thank you for offering btw 🙂
@caleb I see! Just DMed.
2022-02-22
created project board for meta tasks https://github.com/orgs/twa11y/projects/2
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created project board for meta tasks https://github.com/orgs/twa11y/projects/2
2022-02-23
Hi @caleb:
I'd love to leave my contacts on the Notion page. Would you share the notebook link?
I'd love to leave my contacts on the Notion page. Would you share the notebook link?
2022-02-24
I actually decided to use github instead, can you DM me and I'll add it? I'm keeping that repo private to protect people's contact details
or you can email me at caleb@calebjay.com
thank you for offering btw 🙂
2022-02-25
@caleb I see! Just DMed.
Action Lab for civic tech accessibility. Deadline: March 4. There might be $2500 grant to implement a accessibility project
https://tictec.mysociety.org/action-lab-2/
https://tictec.mysociety.org/action-lab-2/
TICTeC
How can the global civic tech community fix common accessibility challenges? Consider joining this TICTeC Action Lab (aka working group) to commission some work to address some of these challenges, alongside others who are passionate about helping the Civic Tech sector improve and unlock imp
Thanks, I applied!
Thanks, I applied!