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Can we start (again) by explaining what governance means to you 'cause I feel there are a lot of things mixed into the discussion of this topic?

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isabelhou 12:08:46

這個群組目前只有七個人。。。。

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clairecyliu 12:10:45

第八個🤣

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\第十個/(?)

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claire 12:36:07

我是第十七個=v=

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1️⃣9️⃣

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@isabelhou set the channel topic: 社群治理流程綜合討論 https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/rJ8s5zSwQ 在 HackMD 文件加入 #g0vernance 標籤方便搜尋

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哦哦哦哦哦哦

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第 25 個

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🙌55>

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🙌 55.

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Ariel Chang 03:09:02

Hello大家好俗稱打鐵要趁熱我是Summit speaker主講是"你付出的房租值得嗎？談空間分析框架下的居住正義──以德國漢堡市為例" 我們CSL有開發一個Git專案走開源GIS圖台目前Openc City Toolkit在談後續專案已經確定會推到巴基斯坦所以想再推到台灣縣市政府或者城市永續發展學術研究單位不知道各位有沒有專案聯絡人信箱或者聯繫窗口可以引介? 謝謝影片下載密碼: kFeddKaA

hkazami 2020-12-09 13:18:37

建議在#summit和#general問會有比較多人能幫忙喔～

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ronnywang 13:15:30

更新了治理文件裡面關於 HackMD 的段落，今年四月起從 ocf 的 azure 搬移到了揪松的 AWS，資金來源是四月時 AWS 贊助了揪松 3000USD 一年份的 credit

bess 2020-12-12 16:02:53

話說這一年又要到了⋯⋯

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hkazami 13:18:37

建議在#summit和#general問會有比較多人能幫忙喔～

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chris_wang 07:30:45

想請問，在 g0v 一開始。如何維護讓這樣去中心化的管理方式的社群不會讓社群消失。

isabelhou 2020-12-12 09:39:54

這是個好問題，要不要開個共筆讓大家一起寫？

isabelhou 2020-12-12 09:45:51

不過，並沒有「管理」。

肥貓 2020-12-12 11:22:32

我思考了一下，包括反思我周六在成大時的有一段發言。一種可能是，我們不能以傳統「組織」的思維，去思考如何治理社群。傳統組織就可能會存在排他的成份，不用「管理」這個詞則是，有些維護和運作不完全存在權力的關係。

肥貓 2020-12-12 11:24:12

但我談的比較是理論層面，即社群「應該」怎麼做。可是如果是問到「一開始」，那很可能是個類似考古的問題，即g0v當時做了什麼，這可能就得請教當時的創辦者。

Tiff 2020-12-12 16:13:25

關於組織，之前接觸到青色組織的概念覺得和g0v社群治理模式有點相像～可以參考這篇文章：https://medium.com/%E9%AD%9A%E6%B0%B4%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E5%82%AC%E5%8C%96%E5%8A%91-to-be-educational-catalyst/%E9%9D%92%E8%89%B2%E7%B5%84%E7%B9%94%E5%AF%A6%E8%B8%90%E5%B7%A5%E4%BD%9C%E5%9D%8A-519c5002923

Tiff 2020-12-12 16:14:15

另外我雖然還沒有很理解g0v社群治理的方式，但剛剛看了這篇自組織的文章覺得可以參考：https://medium.com/%E9%AD%9A%E6%B0%B4%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E5%82%AC%E5%8C%96%E5%8A%91-to-be-educational-catalyst/%E4%BD%A0%E9%9C%80%E8%A6%81%E7%9F%A5%E9%81%93%E7%9A%84%E8%87%AA%E7%B5%84%E7%B9%94%E4%B8%89%E5%A4%A7%E8%AA%A4%E5%8D%80-146149600c56

chris_wang 2020-12-15 17:39:23

@isabelhou 共筆像這樣嗎？
https://g0v.hackmd.io/hAa2ncH0Qv2_spFAb55j-g

isabelhou 2020-12-15 18:04:22

@chris_wang 是。

isabelhou 09:39:54

這是個好問題，要不要開個共筆讓大家一起寫？

isabelhou 09:45:51

不過，並沒有「管理」。

肥貓 11:22:32

我思考了一下，包括反思我周六在成大時的有一段發言。一種可能是，我們不能以傳統「組織」的思維，去思考如何治理社群。傳統組織就可能會存在排他的成份，不用「管理」這個詞則是，有些維護和運作不完全存在權力的關係。

肥貓 11:24:12

但我談的比較是理論層面，即社群「應該」怎麼做。可是如果是問到「一開始」，那很可能是個類似考古的問題，即g0v當時做了什麼，這可能就得請教當時的創辦者。

bess 16:02:53

話說這一年又要到了⋯⋯

Tiff 16:13:25

關於組織，之前接觸到青色組織的概念覺得和g0v社群治理模式有點相像～可以參考這篇文章：https://medium.com/%E9%AD%9A%E6%B0%B4%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E5%82%AC%E5%8C%96%E5%8A%91-to-be-educational-catalyst/%E9%9D%92%E8%89%B2%E7%B5%84%E7%B9%94%E5%AF%A6%E8%B8%90%E5%B7%A5%E4%BD%9C%E5%9D%8A-519c5002923

Tiff 16:14:15

另外我雖然還沒有很理解g0v社群治理的方式，但剛剛看了這篇自組織的文章覺得可以參考：https://medium.com/%E9%AD%9A%E6%B0%B4%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E5%82%AC%E5%8C%96%E5%8A%91-to-be-educational-catalyst/%E4%BD%A0%E9%9C%80%E8%A6%81%E7%9F%A5%E9%81%93%E7%9A%84%E8%87%AA%E7%B5%84%E7%B9%94%E4%B8%89%E5%A4%A7%E8%AA%A4%E5%8D%80-146149600c56

isabelhou 18:31:21

https://g0v.hackmd.io/vYdTfaYeR7SnIU3zT5evOw

g0v.hackmd.io

g0v 社群治理目錄／g0v community g0vernance directory - HackMD

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栗子南瓜 21:36:52

關於組織治理，我正在學習全員參與制（Sociocracy ），有一本非常棒的操作手冊我覺得非常值得拿來用，我也很想翻譯但礙於時間有限有點困難，不知道有沒有人有興趣一起翻 https://www.sociocracyforall.org/book/

SoFA

Many Voices, One Song. Shared power with sociocracy

A 300-page manual about sociocracy, the governance method that combines inclusive decision making, trusted groups, a clear and flexible organizational structure. Written by the founders of Sociocracy For All.