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vtaiwan-en

Month: 2019-04

2019-04-01

@null 12:04:12
I met @tumi last Friday and mentioned that she is watching the vtaiwan meeting minutes. I really want to participate but live too far. I hope that after the small gathering, there will be live broadcast.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554091451009600|source>: _上週五遇到 @tumi 有提到她都有在看 vtaiwan 會議記錄，很想參加但是住太遠，..._

@null 12:05:23
In addition, @tumi also mentioned one thing. It is related to the diversity analysis of TV news content. Is it that news stations should be obliged to take the initiative to provide their own news content schedule to NCC every day instead of using this external detour? Manual solution

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554091522010900|source>: _另外 @tumi 也有提到一件事，跟這次電視新聞內容多樣性分析有關，就是是不..._

@null 12:06:09
Perhaps this can also be the goal of regulatory adjustment after the proposal, discussing whether it is reasonable for the compulsory TV media to provide news lists and time to the government.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554091568011800|source>: _或許這也可以成為這次提案後面化作法規調適的目標，討論強制電視媒體需�..._

@null 12:08:00
As for the live part, you may also consider whether you can establish a small gathering site and the participants of the network can participate naturally. If you can build it, you may be able to write some SOPs for other topics or Komatsu. It can also be replicated in a similar manner without requiring a restricted physical site. The current idea may be that for the radio problem, the person who needs to speak on the spot may be forced to take the microphone? Then you need to study which software is convenient.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554091679013800|source>: _至於直播的部份，或許也可以考慮看看能不能建立一個小聚現場和網路參與�..._

@null 18:29:19
Ah, I am provoked by cue! (Shy) Thanks to @ronnywang's proposal, in fact, I did not think of the radio problem, because the number of participants is not much, so it may be possible to use a general concall device? (being kicked)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554114557015800|source>: _啊啊啊我被 cue 惹！（害羞）感謝 <@U038DCDRC> 的提議，其實我沒有想到收音問��..._

@null 18:32:56
Then on the issue of TV news rundown, I later thought about the NCC should not be able to force the news stations to provide the rundown of each news (may affect the freedom of the press) .... I can share the way of self-discipline of each TV news, that is The news stations will definitely set up a "news self-discipline committee" (this is the law that I remember). Every month, some news stations will record the meeting online. I found the record of the Zhongtian Self-discipline Committee: http://www .ctitv.com.tw/about-cti/cti-ethics-committee/2019/01/4465 Sanli News Self-Regulatory Commission Record: http://blog.iset.com.tw/news/?author=2

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554114775019400|source>: _然後關於 電視新聞 rundown 的問題 我後來想了一下 NCC 應該沒法強制要求各新..._

@null 18:39:02
It can be seen that in fact, there have been many questions asked by experts and scholars to review the Korean Yu news. The next step is to look at the various news stations. The response is like thanking the teacher and then there is no specific response. Measure

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554115140021000|source>: _可以看到其實會議中都有被專家學者要求要檢討韓國瑜新聞太多的問題，接�..._

@null 18:46:10
Therefore, the news self-discipline can be publicly evaluated is to climb these meeting records to see how thick their face is....

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554115569022000|source>: _所以新聞自律可受公評的就是去爬這些會議記錄 看看他們臉皮到底多厚這樣..._

@null 18:53:09
I don't think it's mandatory to provide every news rundown against news freedom. If the request is for broadcast, it will not affect their content layout.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554115988023900|source>: _我倒不覺得強制提供每節新聞 rundown 違反新聞自由耶，如果要求的是播出後�..._

@null 18:53:16
Just found that Zhongtian’s customer complaint response is also online, and 15 of the 15 responses are for Korean Yu (and then 2 of them are the same content): http://www.ctitv.com.tw/about-cti /2019/02/4488

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554115994024200|source>: _剛剛發現中天的客訴回應也是上網的，15則回應裡面有6則是針對韓國瑜（然�..._

@null 18:53:35
However, this is my feeling. Actually, there is no violation. I may have to ask the legal professional XD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554116014024600|source>: _不過這是我的感覺，實際上有沒有違反可能要問法律專業 XD_

@null 21:35:40
Instead of discussing whether it is a matter of freedom of the press, try to quantify the neutrality of the news station?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125739026200|source>: _與其討論是否與新聞自由牴觸，不如來試著把新聞台的中立性給量化吧 ?_

@null 21:36:45
That should first define what is news neutral XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125805027100|source>: _那應該先定義什麼是新聞中立性 XD_

@null 21:36:47
Think about it, this is exactly what @ronnywang is doing.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125807027300|source>: _仔細想想這就完全是 <@U038DCDRC> 正在做的事嘛_

@null 21:37:16
Whether there is deviation/eccentricity for a certain ethnic group

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125834027900|source>: _是否對某族群有偏差/ 偏心之類的_

@null 21:37:55
I don't care if I feel neutral. (At least I think I am not a neutral XD.)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125875028700|source>: _我倒覺得中立性我比較不在乎（至少我就覺得我自己不是中立的 XD）_

@null 21:38:13
I think news can have a position, but at least it must be objective when reporting news.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125893029100|source>: _我覺得新聞可以有立場，但是在報新聞時至少要客觀_

@null 21:38:22
Like public view, there is a position full of XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125901029400|source>: _像公視就滿有立場的啊 XD_

@null 21:38:48
It’s just that public view is not going to deliberately not report or report anything or report it because of positional problems.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554125927029900|source>: _只是公視不太會因為立場問題刻意不報或報什麼東西或是亂報_

2019-04-02

@null 15:11:20
Tomorrow Komatsu activities I opened 啰https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-4 https://g0v.hackmd.io/HPAirHk7Si6CuLpyqFV0dQ

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554189079033400|source>: _明天小松活動我開好囉 <https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-4> <https://g0v.hackmd.io>..._

2019-04-03

@null 17:53:11
The body is not very comfortable tomorrow morning, going abroad, today will not pass QQ

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554285189034400|source>: _身體不太舒服明天早上要出國今天先不過去了QQ_

Please take care~
@null 18:08:53
Please take care~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554286131034600?thread_ts=1554285189.034400&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _請多保重~_

@null 19:23:38
@tumi Hello? We vtaiwan Xiaoju want to try some live broadcasts, see if you want to join to see the effect XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554290617036500|source>: _@tumi 哈囉在嗎～我們 vtaiwan 小聚這邊想試試看一些直播方式，看看要不要加�..._

@null 19:25:07
<Https://meet.jit.si/vtaiwan> Open meetjitsi today, people who are interested in listening can join 喔

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554290706037000|source>: _<https://meet.jit.si/vtaiwan> 今天開 meetjitsi 看看，有興趣想聽的人可以加入喔_

Sorry to see it now, I am joining 啰~
Thank you 😘
After listening for about half an hour, the connection is very clear! But I don't know why I can't talk.
Then I heard ronny's question and wanted to answer and found that I don't know where to write it, so write it here😛
@null 19:27:40
If someone joins the live scene of meetjitsi, let me talk about it, we want to test to see how the scene works.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554290859037700|source>: _如果有人加入 meetjitsi 的現場實況的話，麻煩講一聲，我們想測試看看現場��..._

@null 21:11:54
Sorry to see it now, I am joining 啰~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554297112038100?thread_ts=1554290706.037000&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _抱歉現在才看到，我加入囉~_

@null 21:12:09
Thank you 😘

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554297129038300?thread_ts=1554290706.037000&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _謝謝:kissing_heart:_

@null 21:36:28
Comprehensive Integration Station https://tw.appledaily.com/headline/daily/20101231/33077257/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554298587038600|source>: _年代綜合台 <https://tw.appledaily.com/headline/daily/20101231/33077257/_>

@null 21:54:52
After listening for about half an hour, the connection is very clear! But I don't know why I can't talk.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554299691038700?thread_ts=1554290706.037000&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _大概聽了半小時，連線很清楚! 但是不知為何我無法講話 :stuck_out_tongue:_

@null 21:55:14
Then I heard ronny's question and wanted to answer and found that I don't know where to write it, so write it here😛

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554299713038900?thread_ts=1554290706.037000&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _然後我聽到 ronny 的問題想要回答發現不知道要寫在哪裡所以寫在這裡 :stuck_out_tongue:_

2019-04-05

@null 11:27:45
"The six steps Ukrainian goes to the third step. The sixth step is to end the swallowing of the country. In the sixth step, everyone should sound horrible. The sixth step is called the peace agreement." https://hackmd.io/ s/HyJL31IOE

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554434862039900|source>: _「六大步驟烏克蘭進行到第三步，六大步驟進行到最後就是要併吞國家，第�..._

2019-04-06

@null 12:37:35
In response to news issues, next week vtaiwan Xiaoju wants to collect opinions through polis, and wants to discuss the possibility of some revision directions and whether it violates the freedom of the press, including: 1. Legislation restricts news channels in the news period Inside, there should be too much news for a single person or event (the threshold needs to be discussed again) 2. The news channel needs to expose the source of the gold stream 3. The news channel will post the exact news broadcast to the competent authority within a certain period of time after the news broadcast. After the fact, it has been confirmed that there is a mistake or a change. It is necessary to correct the layout with the same length of time.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554525453043200|source>: _針對新聞議題，下週三 vtaiwan 小聚想要透過 polis 來做意見徵集，並且想要討..._

@null 12:39:01
I just thought that there might be an exception, that is, if it is a major disaster (such as Pu Ma’s derailment or Hualien earthquake), if only for the whole hour, only the current status of the Pu Ma or the current status of Hualien will be reported. Is this allowed?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554525540044700|source>: _剛剛想到一可能會有個例外，就是如果是重大災害時（像是普悠馬出軌或是�..._

@null 15:07:19
Regarding "citizen supervision, government pressure (?) social media handling false news, fake accounts" (the word is very inaccurate), is vtaiwan interested in starting a discussion? Maybe it can be turned into a multi-stakeholder forum?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554534438046900|source>: _關於「公民監督、政府施壓（？）社交媒體處理不實消息、假帳號」這件事�..._

Welcome to discuss
This week, the three are in Okinawa, and next Wednesday will come to the proposal!
@null 16:14:12
Welcome to discuss

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554538451047000?thread_ts=1554534438.046900&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _歡迎討論阿_

@null 16:54:06
This week, the three are in Okinawa, and next Wednesday will come to the proposal!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554540845047300?thread_ts=1554534438.046900&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _這週三人在沖繩，下週三來提案！_

2019-04-07

@null 09:07:59
It talks about "the fact check platform may actually help the news of the rising news" @@ "The second level of reflexive control is aimed at the government. The last trick of the fake news is to spread the news that seems to be true and false, he likes most... News, he likes the government to set up departments, fake news check or clarification center, this is their favorite, why? Suppose you first hit the fake news that is true and false, the other party must clarify. There is heat in the clarification. He Originally, I wanted to buy it because your government’s clarification made him naturally hot. You are fighting a squid here. There is nothing wrong with it. Although the Taiwan independence has not attacked and killed six people, it is suspected that someone was injured because he originally said that there are six. Personal death, then the government said that no Taiwan independence attacked six people. He said that there was no death but serious injuries. The government came out to clarify that there was no serious injury... Ukrainian happened several times, thirty or more times a year, the government has been clarifying, but the result is Everyone feels that pro-Russian elements are abhorrent, and that Taiwan’s Taiwan independence is abhorrent. This is to use this because the government must do Radioactive actuated to make the innings with a constant increase in heat like this, let him become a hot news, so that we have a bad impression of a particular ethnic group, which is a ring of cyberwarfare. "

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554599277047600?thread_ts=1554434862.039900&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _它講到「事實查核平台反而可能助漲假新聞熱度」@@ 「第二個層次的reflexive..._

2019-04-08

Someone (across chat bridge) 03:28:22
File from alexjay (vtaiwan@g0vtw)with comment: heyo! question for folks: I'm looking at this on training.g0v.network. Could anyone help clarify what "public fund, private-operated" means here?
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@null 08:21:00
means the central government has (since 2015) supported the place for meetups and various administrative tasks but does not control the operation

@null 08:21:30
thank you @au!

@null 12:12:19
+1 community-run?

@null 13:30:46
Sympathy

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554701445050700?thread_ts=1554434862.039900&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _同感 :slightly_smiling_face:_

@null 15:16:56
The Global Press Freedom Index questionnaire includes: “Pluralism, media independence, self-censorship, legal framework, transparency and infrastructure. (infrastructure). The questionnaire examines the media legislative framework of the countries under investigation (including: the sanctions mechanism when the media violates the legal rights of the outside world, the monopoly of the state and local governments on the media. At the same time, it examines whether countries have free flow of legal network information. Unlawful obstruction of behavior, whether there is violence against journalists, netizens and media practitioners, and the severity of these acts. Perhaps these can also be discussed on Wednesday's Komatsu press freedom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/% E6%96%B0%E9%97%BB%E8%87%AA%E7%94%B1%E6%8C%87%E6%95%B0

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554707814051600|source>: _全球新聞自由指數問卷內容主要包括： 「新聞多元化（pluralism）、媒體的獨..._

Hannah O'Rourke 20:23:22
@hannah has joined the channel

2019-04-09

@null 12:51:08
Anyone interested in investing in COSCUP? https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2SXKX/p1554187550052100

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554785466052300|source>: _有人有興趣投 COSCUP 嗎 :stuck_out_tongue: 電視專案投一下？ <https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C02G2S..._>

@null 15:13:52
I had an extra thought about this use of polis for comments on this issue, but there is a problem with a political standpoint. I am thinking that I would like to find the Democratic Progressive Party’s primary election coordination group or Luo. I like to participate in Wen Jia, because I always think that polis will be a good tool to assist in the deliberation of democracy. I hope that the DPP’s primary election mechanism will also include the review (whether or not there is a tool for using polis). The opinions of the parties can also be specifically presented. It is very serious to see that the supporters of the two sides are splitting against each other on the Internet. If either party wins with a small difference, the losing party will certainly not be able to support it. The Ministry of Culture will stay in the Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall. I have already gone through such a review process. PDIS or Green Platform is also an organization that promotes such ideas. I don't know if there is any chance for such suggestions to be heard. However, it is said that they may have discussed such a plan internally.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554794029052600?thread_ts=1554525453.043200&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _我昨天針對這個使用 polis 來做意見徵集有個額外的發想，不過有點離題也會..._

@null 18:54:32
Komatsu welcomes the proposal tomorrow. Registration: https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-5 A total of: https://g0v.hackmd.io/TIjMRCriQiyrehCwyBZ-oA

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554807271053100|source>: _明天小松歡迎提案。 報名：<https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-5> 共筆：https:..._

2019-04-10

@null 17:22:39
Bought pizza 唷

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554888159054300|source>: _買了披薩唷_

@null 17:22:58
But than the small and medium, five small pizzas

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554888177054800|source>: _不過比想像中小，五個小披薩_

@null 17:57:37
The body is not very comfortable tomorrow morning, going abroad, today will not pass QQ

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554285189034400?thread_ts=1554285189.034400&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _身體不太舒服明天早上要出國今天先不過去了QQ_

@null 19:24:41
Today vtaiwan live broadcast

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554895480055900|source>: _本日 vtaiwan 現場直播_

@null 19:28:08
/ /me lurking

@null 21:33:15
嗨嗨I am like another, if today polis has success (or pdis) and then give me iframe code, I directly ask the engineer to embed the topic to help promote

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554903194059000|source>: _嗨嗨我是又如，如果今天 polis 有成功（或是pdis）再給我 iframe code，我直接��..._

@null 23:00:29
Open Space training, welcome friends who are interested to register ~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554908427059800|source>: _Open Space培訓，歡迎有興趣的朋友報名～_

2019-04-11

@null 20:49:18
Would you like to ask if you want to embed polis later? We have to finalize it before we leave work tomorrow.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1554986956000600|source>: _想請問後來有要嵌入 polis 嗎？我們明天下班前要定稿 :pray:_

2019-04-12

@null 12:51:52
We decided (the false message topic of READr) will first open a "What level of false information do you need to be regulated? How to control?" polis, then lead to the part of the press freedom discussed by vtaiwan that day, I will follow the progress Write some articles

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555044711001700|source>: _我們決定（READr 的假訊息專題）會先開一個「你覺得什麼程度的假訊息需要�..._

2019-04-13

@null 15:55:00
Https://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw/8m7p5emh8m Put the comments of everyone this week with pdis's polis.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555142099003500|source>: _<https://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw/8m7p5emh8m> 用 pdis 的polis把大家這禮拜的意見先貼進去了_

2019-04-15

kuannie1 08:33:25
@kuannie1 has joined the channel
@null 23:08:10
Will this topic be used to collect opinions after this topic?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555340889004600?thread_ts=1555142099.003500&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _這議題之後都會是用這連結來徵集意見嗎?_

2019-04-16

@null 15:16:39
Komatsu welcomes the proposal tomorrow. Registration: https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-6 A total of: https://g0v.hackmd.io/45nePlUKTyCglUf2vDkciA

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555398998005200|source>: _明天小松歡迎提案。 報名： <https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-6> 共筆： http..._

@null 23:12:36
There is also a READr+ report.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555427553005800?thread_ts=1555142099.003500&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _READr+ 報導裡也有一個_

2019-04-17

@null 17:08:25
Everyone, An An, because it seems that someone asked about the food at the last time, it is OK to provide a copy here: 05074416

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555492100007900|source>: _大家安安 因為上次似乎有人問伙食可否報帳 是可以的 在此提供統編：050764..._

Haha, food panda, I can’t seem to edit it, I’ll study it again, sorry, everyone’s pizza will be late.
@null 18:02:50
I want to know if Zhongtian will be dominated by Han in the future, or will it be changed to Guo Dong.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555495368008200?thread_ts=1555398998.005200&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _想要知道今後中天是會以韓總為主，還是改成郭董_

@null 18:42:55
\郭特首首/

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555497774008400?thread_ts=1555398998.005200&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _\郭特首/_

@null 18:43:38
Haha, food panda, I can’t seem to edit it, I’ll study it again, sorry, everyone’s pizza will be late.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555497817008600?thread_ts=1555492100.007900&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _哈哈結果 food panda 好像不能打統編我再研究看看，抱歉大家今天披薩會晚點�..._

@null 19:06:07
It seems that I saw someone on the PTT saying that there is a cold treatment in Guotian.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555499167008900?thread_ts=1555398998.005200&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _好像有看到 PTT 上有人說中天有冷處理郭董的樣子_

@null 19:46:11
Live link today

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555501570009800|source>: _今天直播連結_

2019-04-18

@null 09:38:31
In an anger, I finished the eight episodes of "Evil".

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555551510011900|source>: _一怒之下就把《與惡》八集追完了_

@null 09:47:24
Sorry, I am a bad guy QQ

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555552041012100|source>: _對不起，我是壞人 QQ_

@null 15:04:38
The distance between Rongni and evil

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555571077012900|source>: _榮尼與惡的距離_

2019-04-19

@null 00:56:58
Never afraid of being thundered

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555606618013700|source>: _從此不怕被暴雷_

2019-04-22

@null 12:39:03
Q: Now http://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw is @au in maintain?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555907943015000|source>: _問：現在 <http://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw> 是 <@U02L29KSW> 在 maintain？_

@null 12:40:03
Now embedded code will give birth to https://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw//7rshkafphu?parent_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.readr.tw%2Fproject%2Fdisinformation&referrer= with a slash, then it will be broken~ ~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555908001015700|source>: _現在 embedded code 會生出 <https://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw//7rshkafphu?parent_url=https%3A%2F%2Fww..._>

Thanks, it’s fixed.
` if ($request_uri ~ "^[^?]*?//") { rewrite "^" $scheme://$host$uri?$query_string permanent; }`
@null 13:51:39
It turns out that China has given Wangzhong 16.7 billion Taiwan dollars in the past 11 years. https://m.facebook.com/antichina87/photos/a.2238893249697405/2248217668764963/?type=3

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555912297016000|source>: _原來中國這11年來給了旺中167億台幣 <https://m.facebook.com/antichina87/photos/a.22388932..._>

m.facebook.com

消滅旺中的87種方法

#起底旺中 原來中國政府這11年來給了旺中167億！！ 　...

@null 18:51:56
Thanks, it’s fixed.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555930315016300?thread_ts=1555908001.015700&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _感謝，修好了_

@null 18:52:26
` if ($request_uri ~ "^[^?]*?//") { rewrite "^" $scheme://$host$uri?$query_string permanent; }`

2019-04-23

@null 06:48:06
Have you seen the financial report as part of the government subsidy?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555973284017700|source>: _看了一下財報 是指政府補助金的部分嗎？_

correct
@null 06:49:03
If I didn't read the wrong thing, I think that the part of the end of March 20th, 2017-2018 is a government grant of 600 million yuan. The annual profit for the same period is 3.8 billion yuan. The annual income is 24.8 billion yuan.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555973343018700|source>: _如果我沒看錯東西的話 我看 2017-2018三月底 十五個月的部分是有六億人民幣..._

@null 06:52:55
correct

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555973575019200?thread_ts=1555973284.017700&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _對的_

@null 10:02:07
Komatsu welcomes the proposal tomorrow. Registration: https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-7 A total of: https://g0v.hackmd.io/7i4TtecmTkqGOG5EblLbZw

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1555984926019800|source>: _明天小松歡迎提案。 報名： <https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-7> 共筆： http..._

2019-04-24

@null 19:12:50
<Https://meet.jit.si/vtaiwan> Today vtaiwan small live broadcast

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556104370000500|source>: _<https://meet.jit.si/vtaiwan> 本日 vtaiwan 小聚現場直播_

2019-04-25

@null 12:52:11
I took a look at D-card in the workplace, Blind app https://www.teamblind.com/articles/Topics An anonymous community site in the workplace that can be used to discuss company treatment anonymously, etc. Blind: Your Anonymous Workplace Community I found that it was registered with a work email. After setting a password, it is impossible to use emaiil to request a password. This means that the company cannot secretly use your work email to use your app (but it also means that if you forget your password, you will not be able to get it back. The account is up.) The anonymity of the Blind app should be high enough. Don't worry that the company will see it. But its current region, only the United States and South Korea, should be able to open the company's corporate issues in Taiwan: p I was thinking about it. Every company has a union (because a veterinarian friend is a hard worker in a government unit) and such an anonymous work discussion community may be the simple first step.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556167928007100|source>: _我看了一下工作界的 D-card，Blind app <https://www.teamblind.com/articles/Topics> 工作界��..._

@null 12:54:32
Also, would you like to ask if anyone is interested in going to the ICIF on Sunday? #揪团https://creativexpo.tw

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556168071007600|source>: _另外想問一下有沒有人有興趣星期日一起去看文博會呀？ #揪團 <https://creative>..._

2019-04-29

@null 10:23:59
https://www.cna.com.tw/news/aipl/201904280169.aspx

cna.com.tw

黃國昌擬修廣電三法拒絕紅色媒體 NCC：尊重 | 政治 | 中央社 CNA

時代力量立委黃國昌今天在臉書發文表示，拒絕紅色媒體，他擬具了「廣播電視法」、「衛星廣播電視法」及「有線廣播電視法」三部修正草案。

@null 10:34:21
Doubt, I tried to open the vTaiwan party on Wednesday, but I signed up, but kktix said "coming soon", I don't know what was wrong with me? <Https://kktix.com/events/15857ada-copy-8/registrations/quickly>

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556505260009500|source>: _疑，我嘗試開了這星期三的 vTaiwan 聚會活動 可是點下報名，kktix 卻說 “comin..._

@null 10:35:31
To be published by publishing

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556505329010100|source>: _要按 publish 才會公開喔_

@null 10:35:37
Because I am not sure if anyone will come to participate on Wednesday, I would like to open a look at the survey.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556505337010400|source>: _因為不確定星期三有沒有人會來參加，所以想先開看看調查大家意見_

@null 10:35:40
In the top left corner

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556505339010500|source>: _在最左上角_

@null 10:36:21
Well, it’s successful!

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556505378010700|source>: _嗯嗯，成功了！_

@null 10:37:23
This Wednesday's vTaiwan event opened: boogie-penguin: https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada-copy-8 If there are too few people, come to peace of mind~

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556505441011400|source>: _這星期三的 vTaiwan 活動開出來了 :boogie-penguin: <https://vtaiwan.kktix.cc/events/15857ada..._>

@null 13:42:23
Are you going to participate this week? I think there is a Facebook page to announce, but I am afraid that there are too few people in the event, so that outsiders can find no one>////<

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556516541014800|source>: _對了這週大家會參加嗎？想到還有臉書頁要公告，不過怕萬一來的人太少，�..._

@null 13:43:28
I am going to XD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556516607015000|source>: _我是會去啦 XD_

@null 13:44:18
I will go to 喔

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556516657015500|source>: _我會去喔_

@null 13:44:36
Small class back to Taiwan?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556516675015700|source>: _小班回台灣了？_

@null 13:44:54
Not yet, returning to Indonesia from Indonesia at noon on Wednesday

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556516693016300|source>: _還沒，週三中午從印尼回台灣_

@null 17:36:08
I said that I specially called the Supervisory Office today and asked if I am planning to be a candidate. If I encounter a guest or being asked to avoid it, I would like to avoid XD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556530567017100|source>: _話說今天特別打電話給監察院，問說我現在是擬參選人，如果遇到請客或被�..._

@null 18:33:09
In fact, if you are a friend, please come and go, or have no interest, this kind of guest is asked to have nothing to avoid.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556533986018800|source>: _其實如果本來就是朋友常請來請去的，或者沒什麼利益關係，這種請客被請�..._

@null 18:33:27
So vtaiwan, I will continue to bring two hands of beer, do not need to avoid XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556534006019200|source>: _所以 vtaiwan 我就繼續帶兩手啤酒去了，不需要避嫌了 XD_

krzysztof.madejski 22:22:39
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@null 22:23:17
Thanks @Aiya for inviting me, I'll write on #vtaiwan-en not to jump in here with English conversation.

krzysztof.madejski 22:26:11
Hi everyone, I was overseeing the Code for All exchange that brough g0v members to Tokyo in order to train Japanese officials on vTaiwan methodology. I'm now including it in the report for our donor, NED. They are mainly interested in how this methodology adoptable for other countries, especially developing democracies. So I wonder if you know of any other organizations or governments that tried to adopt vTaiwan process?
Collaborating with Public Digital Innovation Space, @dzn @lizbarry did vTaiwan workshop in New York. @alexjay did vTaiwan workshop in Toronto.
Thank you!
krzysztof.madejski 22:27:00
Also, if any of attendees are here: I wonder what are your reflections after visit in Japan. What was hard to adapt? What was helpful? What you learned on the way to make it easier? Any recommendations for others who would like to adopt it?
krzysztof.madejski 22:27:28
Finally, can Code for All facilitate creation of any more joint resources (translations?) or similar exchanges?
krzysztof.madejski 22:27:34
Looking forward to what you think.
tmonk 23:24:49
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2019-04-30

@null 02:03:01
We could probably put some more money for spreading vTaiwan if they would support "developing democracies", target NED regions & countries https://www.ned.org/. The tricky thing might be finding the right organization and (local) government who would be willing to adopt it.

krzysztof.madejski 02:03:10
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@null 09:15:51
Hacker News - Thousands take to Hong Kong streets to protest new extradition laws
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19775553

@null 11:59:31
<Https://vtw.link/?fbclid=fb-ooxx> After discovering that fb added an annoying fbclid, his address will fail.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556596770028100|source>: _<https://vtw.link/?fbclid=fb-ooxx> 發現被 fb 加上了討人厭的 fbclid 後，他的轉址就會�..._

What does it mean? Will it be troubled by security?
I can't share https://vtw.link/ this URL on fb
However, the preview can be displayed normally, and the preview is still the head of the tmonk XD)
I am thinking about saying that XD has always been my head XD.
Because you are the owner of this hackmd.
Then this hackmd has no other images attached, so the default is the owner avatar.
Of course... just want to say if you can change other XD
Yes, just put a picture on top of the hackmd.
換 vtaiwan logo ?
@null 16:22:10
What does it mean? Will it be troubled by security?

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612528028300?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _這是甚麼意思呢？會有資安上的困擾嗎_

@null 16:22:32
I can't share https://vtw.link/ this URL on fb

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612551028500?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _等於沒辦法在 fb 上面分享 <https://vtw.link/> 這個網址_

@null 16:22:56
However, the preview can be displayed normally, and the preview is still the head of the tmonk XD)

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612575028800?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _不過可以正常顯示預覽，而且預覽圖還是 tmonk 的頭像 XD)_

@null 16:23:13
I am thinking about saying that XD has always been my head XD.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612592029000?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _對阿 XD 我就在想說為啥一直是我的頭XD_

@null 16:23:23
Because you are the owner of this hackmd.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612602029200?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _因為你是這個 hackmd 的 owner 吧_

@null 16:23:34
Then this hackmd has no other images attached, so the default is the owner avatar.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612614029400?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _然後這個 hackmd 沒有貼其他圖片，所以預設就 owner 頭像_

@null 16:23:47
Of course... just want to say if you can change other XD

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612626029600?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _當然... 就只是想說能否換其他的XD_

@null 16:24:01
Yes, just put a picture on top of the hackmd.

<https://g0v-tw.slack.com/archives/C2Q1M4N1J/p1556612640029800?thread_ts=1556596770.028100&amp;cid=C2Q1M4N1J|source>: _可以啊，在 hackmd 最上面再放一張圖就好了_

@null 16:24:06
換 vtaiwan logo ?