#facilitation-fest-nyc
2018-03-06
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2018-03-07
facilitation on the docket for friday or do we want to have a chat about it before?
i’d love to hold it the week before RightsCon….but i don’t know if that’s too ambitious. did y’all have any thoughts to pre or post RightsCon?
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Adding @patcon to see if there’s interest in toronto community, too.
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🎉 Mind if I bridge this channel to Civic Tech Toronto slack and pull some folks in?
Also, if i do that, mind if I rename this channel to add "nyc", so its clear on the Toronto end? (Doesn't need to be same name, but it seems a little less confusing for when ppl self-reference the channel)
Go for it
cool! can you rename to `#facilitation-fest-nyc`? (I can't bc i didn't create)
done!
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2018-03-10
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2018-03-12
Shu and Fang are available the week before RightsCon. They are both interested in going to Toronto, too. How do you feel if we plan on having them lead the training in NYC and if au can joint remotely, we can have her telepresent or even give a short opening talk. Sounds like she can make RightsCon and an event in Toronto though.
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🎉 Mind if I bridge this channel to Civic Tech Toronto slack and pull some folks in?
Also, if i do that, mind if I rename this channel to add "nyc", so its clear on the Toronto end? (Doesn't need to be same name, but it seems a little less confusing for when ppl self-reference the channel)
Go for it
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2018-03-13
another thought/option would be to host the training before PDF. more folks from g0v will be around from the looks of it.
@darshana @lizbarry thoughts? ^^
i'm flexible. Do you mean PDF in NYC in June?
yup
I’m flexible too
Better to have everyone here at the same time
the advantages would be: more g0v folks, piggy back on having people in town for PDF, bit more time to plan
disadvantages: we don’t do the training in advance of RightsCon (maybe we can get the team to do some remote stuff?). we need to check dates with Fang and Shu (hopefully they are still available)
I don’t think the extra time gives us that much. It will be broken up by RightCon etc.
It will be mostly more people
and we decide how we want to frame the whole thing.. having g0v will change the framing
Also… aren’t we planning to try and get Avross here too? (Fang is being payed for by Taiwan gov)
I’m fine either way. I see the main advantage as having more people but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are free.
we can always organize a side event/panel in june
Maybe we just do the training before RightsCon, and set up sidepanels and other events around PDF?
@darshana @lizbarry thoughts? ^^
i'm flexible. Do you mean PDF in NYC in June?
yup
I’m flexible too
Better to have everyone here at the same time
the advantages would be: more g0v folks, piggy back on having people in town for PDF, bit more time to plan
disadvantages: we don’t do the training in advance of RightsCon (maybe we can get the team to do some remote stuff?). we need to check dates with Fang and Shu (hopefully they are still available)
I don’t think the extra time gives us that much. It will be broken up by RightCon etc.
It will be mostly more people
and we decide how we want to frame the whole thing.. having g0v will change the framing
Also… aren’t we planning to try and get Avross here too? (Fang is being payed for by Taiwan gov)
cool! can you rename to `#facilitation-fest-nyc`? (I can't bc i didn't create)
@itsmisscs has renamed the channel from "facilitation-fest" to "facilitation-fest-nyc"
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done!
I’m fine either way. I see the main advantage as having more people but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are free.
we can always organize a side event/panel in june
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2018-03-17
Hey. I’m not going to get back on the call for today. Sorry about that. For my update —
(1) My adds for Allied are in the doc and happy to run with whatever you folks think. The deadline for submission is tonight. (2) Tina (from Orbital) slacked me last week about a corresponded she and CS (thanks @itsmisscs) had regarding the dinner event for facilitation fest. I had a chat with her about the details and she is very excited about the conference. She interested in designing the food experience as a collaborator but not so much in the cooking itself (she will do it she has a help)
(3) I spoke to Joe from American Assembly about sponsorship and he said he will buy at least 2 tickets to the training and will also find a way to get us more money
(1) My adds for Allied are in the doc and happy to run with whatever you folks think. The deadline for submission is tonight. (2) Tina (from Orbital) slacked me last week about a corresponded she and CS (thanks @itsmisscs) had regarding the dinner event for facilitation fest. I had a chat with her about the details and she is very excited about the conference. She interested in designing the food experience as a collaborator but not so much in the cooking itself (she will do it she has a help)
(3) I spoke to Joe from American Assembly about sponsorship and he said he will buy at least 2 tickets to the training and will also find a way to get us more money
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2018-03-19
Maybe we just do the training before RightsCon, and set up sidepanels and other events around PDF?
2018-03-23
Just met Eric Gordon of Emerson's Engagement Lab
eric@elab.emerson.edu he wants to collaborate if at all possible on the facilitator training. He spent a couple weeks in Taiwan in October and Shu is going to spend a week in Boston in May as part of the samw trip we are organizing to bring her to NYC
eric@elab.emerson.edu he wants to collaborate if at all possible on the facilitator training. He spent a couple weeks in Taiwan in October and Shu is going to spend a week in Boston in May as part of the samw trip we are organizing to bring her to NYC
🙂 Oh nice!! Shu did mention going there
In my news, prime produce (the space where the cybernetics conference was held) is interested in hosting us for the facilitation training
as a community they are SUPER interested in facilitation. They are up for a collaboration as a opposed to us just paying for their space.
let’s put both things on agenda for Friday planning!
In not so excellent news. Email Houman but no news yet 😞
Sweet!!! We had looked at them when we did a study of like minded orgs.
That's great re space at prime produce!!
Awesome about Prime Produce!
2018-03-24
Hey. Is there a plan for today? I know everyone is traveling but plans for remote?
Hi! Was at a conference today and now prepping slides for the weekend. I invited two more NYCers to join us one week from today tho
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@lizbarry missed this for some reason. Sorry!!
Hope conference was good 🙂
2018-03-26
@lizbarry missed this for some reason. Sorry!!
Hope conference was good 🙂
We haven’t confirmed dates with Taiwan folk. Shu just asked.
Finalize and send them dates tomorrow?
I’ll be on slack all day. Can video chat too
Maybe this evening?
Works for me! Any time before 9PM
2018-03-27
have time to chat?
In terms of dates. I am open before and after rightscon.
I would propose that we concentrate on the facilitation training and not plan an elaborate conference. That will require quite a lot of planning (plus getting money) and we are all on the move quite a bit.
thoughts?
Totally agree! Sorry I've been less available, I'm on day 6 of a 9 day Boston/Providence work trip
no problem. Let’s just plan a really good training event!
That is totally possible!!
@lizbarry @itsmisscs can you write your travel dates between May 9th and June 9th.
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That’s the period between right before Rightscon and until after PDF.
we can find a time somewhere there
Thank you for the focus D!
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Before would be great. After rightscon Im going to Berlin. Otherwise, Im around
ok! so let’s shoot for before
Ok!
Initially we spoke of the week before RightsCon. Giving time to be in TO the Tuesday before.
Liz checking dates
Can I get any privacy 😂
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hahaha
Before is perfect. I have to do some work thing in Houston on Monday right after RightsCon
done. Week of May 7th?
Didn't we have a weekend / weekday strategy? Well let's sort that out soon
Yes week of May 7
one thing.. we will have to arrange for tickets Taiwan-NYC-Toronto-NYC-Taiwan?
damn
👋 Possibly code for america summit: may 30-jun 1
hai hai. sorry for missing you in call out!!
got caught in the NYC weeds 😳
No problem!
Also, hai hai hai!
hai hai. sorry for missing you in call out!!
We spoke about focusing on Taiwan to NYC leg
got caught in the NYC weeds 😳
If we have funding, opening up to NYC to TO
No problem!
that’s tricky since we technically invited them to rightscon.
let’s chat with them and see who’s thinking of coming
We did?
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Chatting with them sounds good. Finalize the head count.
alright.
Gotta walk home, talk soon!
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2018-03-29
hello peeps. I have modified the awesome foundation proposal we put together a while ago to get money for facilitation training — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NGLamy4arKORjYTyx-CvuMQJhnWOUYd08njdoS1gIlw/edit?usp=sharing
edit and we send by Friday evening?
I think the deadline is last day of month. Am I right @lizbarry?
@patcon maybe you can modify slightly (change the focus from CC to you and focus on rightscon?) and send to Canadian chapter.
We can also send to some of the world wide chapters
Yes! Deadline is last day of month.
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Hey. Adding Shu to this channel, that ok?
she and Fang (PO officer) are going to come to NYC
Au would prefer after Rightcon though. She is in DC before 😞
We can all discuss dates here
maybe there is a window some time after? If not, Shu and Fang can make it
2018-03-30
@lizbarry @itsmisscs @patcon if we move training to after Rightscon what dates between May 21 and June 6th work for you.
of course. please add them here
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for now…what are your dates?
I happen to be meeting someone from Prime Produce tomorrow. Will be good to float dates by them too
for space
ah, are we moving it now?
we can finalize when we are together but let’s try to come up with 2 sets of dates? (if possible). What we can do before Rightscon and what after.
I think taiwan team needs to get their schedules in order soon
i can see what i can change with my berlin flight
i sent them dates assuming we were locked into may
can you do end may?
no i can’t
are the pre rightscon dates no longer possible?
they ok for Shu and Fang but she said that after Rightscon will be better.
ah, i see
then Audrey can join as well and Shu will stay for PDF I think
well, if Liz is around, go for it. I’ll be back for PDF, but end of may and those first days of june i’m out speaking
if it is not at all possible on our end, that is fine
in that case let’s just do it before and have Shu and Fang but not audrey
I’ll add shu here
are they leaving immediately after PDF?
they may not stay until PDF
ah
that will be almost a whole month away
but not finalized yet
I think they are working on scheduling
if they come for rightscon, it’s about 2 two weeks after
if we want the training before, this is off the table
if we want the training before, they won’t stay for rightscon?
pre-rightscon training = just training; post rightscon/pre PDF is training + joining for rightscon
yah?
joining for PDF
post rightscon/pre PDF is training + joining for PDF
i can see if they haven’t purchased my ticket yet and see about 4/5th return. would that give us time to do before?
noting we’re going back to an earlier proposal 😛
if they come before and stay through PDF, that’s a while, yes
if we want the training before, this is off the table
if we want the training before, they won’t stay for rightscon?
pre-rightscon training = just training; post rightscon/pre PDF is training + joining for rightscon
yah?
joining for PDF
post rightscon/pre PDF is training + joining for PDF
i can see if they haven’t purchased my ticket yet and see about 4/5th return. would that give us time to do before?
noting we’re going back to an earlier proposal 😛
I’d say *if possible* let’s give them 1 set of dates for after Rightscon (May 21 - June 6)
Shu and Fang have already blocked off May 7-13 so we already have something
need to confirm asap
i sent my travel dates to folks in berlin based on earlier date. small if maybe no window to change them
i am happy to help organize if needs to be after, but i may not be able to attend. a bummer, but so be it
so, confirmed on your end that you have no time between May 21 - June 6?
you are locked in?
i can try to get my flight changed pending they haven’t purchased it
but i would need to submit that request asap. the earliest i can be back is the beginning of the week
ok. so if they haven’t purchased see what you can do
if they have purchased let’s do May 7-13
you would need to submit new dates right away?
if they haven’t purchased, does that week of june work?
works for me
does it work for them?
we will have to wait till this evening for Shu to confirm
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sounds good.
@itsmisscs The other thing is that if you are coming back from Berlin 4/5 (?) and we have training 5/6 and then PDF happens 7/8. That’s an insanely tight schedule! We already have May 7-13 and Shu and Fang.
no need to go through that kind of a grind
it’s not impossible. i would come with a day between to allow for any travel issues.
just need us to decide ✅
Hi sorry for the chaos!
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Fang and I have locked 5/7-5/13 - yes
And it will just be nice if Audrey’s days in NY can somehow overlap with ours - if not possible, it’s OK
Audrey has to be in Taiwan on 5/5 and 5/6
does this mean that Au is ok with leaving for NYC soon after?
not a strong preference but it’s surmountable, for sure
@sylin when is the earliest Au can leave? Is there a date between May 7-15 that will be comfortable for Au?
AU has talks arranged in Taiwan at 5/7,8,9,12
So .. maybe 5/12 evening or 5/13
Ok! We are all meeting tomorrow to plan. Tell you tomorrow?
Sure. thanks! will be nice to know around this weekend. At the same time we are arranging resources to bring POs there. Will sync with you all soon.
ideally we can chat again soon and sync a list of names and time/place, but no pressure.
We will let you know today. Thanks for being patient Shu!!
Up for chatting any time next week.
OK!
I am going for a hike next wednesday onwards. how about we chat next monday 10am/10pm?
let’s chat Monday. A little bit later ok? 10:30AM/PM? I have a meeting until 10:15 or so.
morning got occupied… how about tuesday?
Tuesday works for me
For this weeks chat, is Wednesday 10am/10pm locked in? Could we flip timezones so ET is 10am, for any time later this week? That way, those with daytime commitments, like @lizbarry and I, could participate :) no presh tho
(@darshana Saw card in our trello, but maybe this isn't the thread where it came from :) )
It came from here, I’m pretty sure 🙂
I am fine with flipping!
And, she had another visit to DC at the first week of June, but we are moving it to end of May to try to match these two US visits
But again, if you are OK with having us in separate time frames, it’s totally fine
Personally, I am planning to visit Boston during this visit, also up for staying for PDF if there’s enough ahead time to sort out stuff here in May in Taiwan
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wow @sylin you are such a night owl
does this mean that Au is ok with leaving for NYC soon after?
not a strong preference but it’s surmountable, for sure
@sylin when is the earliest Au can leave? Is there a date between May 7-15 that will be comfortable for Au?
AU has talks arranged in Taiwan at 5/7,8,9,12
So .. maybe 5/12 evening or 5/13
Ok! We are all meeting tomorrow to plan. Tell you tomorrow?
Sure. thanks! will be nice to know around this weekend. At the same time we are arranging resources to bring POs there. Will sync with you all soon.
ideally we can chat again soon and sync a list of names and time/place, but no pressure.
We will let you know today. Thanks for being patient Shu!!
Up for chatting any time next week.
2018-03-31
OK!
I am going for a hike next wednesday onwards. how about we chat next monday 10am/10pm?